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August 16th, 2010
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My Take: President Obama's assault on Americans' first freedom

Editor's Note: Tony Perkins is President of the Family Research Council in Washington, D.C.

By Tony Perkins, Special to CNN

President Obama has shifted centuries of U.S. diplomatic parlance. We no longer speak of freedom of religion; now, it is only freedom of worship that our government defends.

This is a radical departure, one that threatens to make true religious liberty vulnerable, conditional and limited. As some have said, it is a freedom "only within four walls." That is, you are free to worship within the four walls of your home, church or synagogue, but when you enter the public square or go abroad, leave your religion at home.

In international forums, President Obama and Secretary Clinton repeatedly have retreated to this "freedom of worship" formulation. This is no accident.

Now, President Obama's representatives at the United Nations have shifted ground. The U.S. delegation to the U.N. recently spearheaded approval of the International Lesbian and Gay Human Rights Commission (IGLHRC). This outfit has just been recognized as a non-governmental organization accredited to the U.N.'s Economic and Social Council.

It's part of the Obama administration's campaign to press the U.N. to affirm the homosexual lifestyle worldwide. For example, IGLHRC members refused to answer the following question put to them in the U.N. last June: Would a member of the clergy be prosecuted for human rights violations if he or she preached on the sinfulness of homosexuality? No response.

Their silence is deafening. No wonder the NO votes plus abstentions exceeded the YES votes for seating this radical group. Significantly, the Egyptian delegate noted that his questions had not been answered. He charged the IGLHRC with violating tenets of Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the U.N. Charter itself. (Coming from Egypt, itself a persistent violator of these U.N. documents, the charge must have stung.)

With President Obama's nomination of Elena Kagan to the U.S. Supreme Court, the potential erosion of religious liberty only increases. Ms. Kagan has argued that incorporating foreign law into U.S. Supreme Court rulings would be "a good idea." She maintained in a legal brief that not only must U.S. institutions be barred from expressing disapproval of the homosexual lifestyle, but that a “society that tolerates (such) discrimination by its members is not a just society.”

To Kagan, any public disapproval of sexual relations between men and men or women and women, or any attempt to give preference to marriage as the union of one man and one woman, will inevitably be seen as a form of invidious discrimination-and must be banned.

America's First Freedom–freedom of religion–is in danger of being hounded out of public life, expelled from the public square. The word to millions of believers–Evangelicals, Catholics, Lutherans, Orthodox Jews–is this: Be Amish or be quiet. Keep your quaint religious practices, mumble your odd prayers, but do so in private.

Think of the implications: You try sharing the Gospel with someone, and are accused of "hate speech" and told to be quiet. You have a Bible on your desk at work, and are told this is an aggressive display of a controversial faith–and to remove it. Your church has a float in the local Fourth of July parade and it's denied admittance next year because someone says the float violates his or her private convictions.

The above examples are hypothetical, but here are three that have already happened:

–You express disapproval of homosexual conduct and are summarily dismissed from your counseling degree program. This has happened to Julea Ward at Eastern Michigan University, and Jennifer Keeton at Augusta State University is under the same threat.

–Say you are a wedding photographer. A same-sex couple comes through your door demanding you provide photos for their commitment ceremony. You politely decline, stating that your religious convictions prevent you from entering into that contract. And you are promptly hauled before a human rights council. This happened to Elaine Huguenin in New Mexico.

–You object to your kindergartener being propagandized with a book titled King and King, which details the romance between two imaginary royal young men. You find yourself arrested and jailed when you go to your son's school to protest. This happened to David Parker in Massachusetts.

These things will become the norm in American life if the radical impulse to criminalize opposition to homosexuality is not thwarted.

As a candidate for president, Barack Obama pledged to bring "fundamental change" to America. He is doing that. Constitutional liberties that we have enjoyed for 219 years are being overthrown or reinterpreted with stunning speed.

Every poll shows Americans are resisting President Obama's agenda. But many in the mainstream media largely downplay these questions, dismissing them as mere "wedge issues."

For people of faith, these matters of faith and family go deeper. They are "bridge issues" that unite races and ethnicities, men and women, education and income groups.

The radical changes President Obama and his allies advocate threaten the America we love and the way we express our most deeply held moral and religious convictions. We will be neither silent nor inactive in the face of these challenges. With courtesy and civility but with unflinching determination, we will oppose them.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Tony Perkins.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Barack Obama • Homosexuality • Politics • Religious liberty

soundoff (265 Responses)
  1. Amit

    it was due to increased awsaeners amongst the public, which is certainly a result of the ISP-level filtering proposal. How many of those 90% of new cases are people testing the waters and seeing just where the boundaries of ACMA's mandate are?

    October 7, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
  2. envifeflelm on Sun, 16th Oct 2011 11:25 pm

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    November 29, 2011 at 11:12 am |
  3. Muneef

    What is the new world order view towards multi culture adaptation? And if they meant by integration (to fuse) cultures by means of (racial,religious,language,tribal+) in to some new one colorless format?!
    Giving example about multi culture of human nations and within each multi culture nation....!   "Imagine a fields of Tulip flowers all fields in one color say white or black or any single color? Then imagine fields of Tulip Flowers each field has different single colors or multicolored ones"?!      
    What do we want collectively that it matters and not by the new regime?! So do we really hate our cultures being? Or do we hate being an off springs of multi culture marriages as to being called (Colored)? Believe we shouldn't be underestimating being colored nor feel inferior...but rather cling a good hold of those languages culture traditions that are felt for with pride...
    Why I will tell you that as a Muslim believer I believe that God has created our fathers Adam and Eve from a multicolored earth (Clay). Then sons of Adam and Eve became to take colors as were the colors of the Clay the were made of. Since then human race became as "Human Tulips" cultural varieties of which should be maintained although it is already experimenting it self by the inter cultural  marriages which became to be called "Colored" by the both nations he holds?!
    Easy living example with my full respect to "BO" is looked upon both races he holds as colored "He is Black among White and White among Blacks" so you see such as those where they stand or have paths among extremes?
    (http://www.montrealbelvedereflowers.info/page/10/)

    February 12, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
  4. Muneef

    Ya-Seen sura 36:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Ya Sin. (1) By the wise Qur'an, (2) Lo! thou art of those sent (3) On a straight path, (4) A revelation of the Mighty, the Merciful, (5) That thou mayst warn a folk whose fathers were not warned, so they are heedless. (6) Already hath the word proved true of most of them, for they believe not. (7) Lo! We have put on their necks carcans reaching unto the chins, so that they are made stiff-necked. (8) And We have set a bar before them and a bar behind them, and (thus) have covered them so that they see not. (9) Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not, it is alike for them, for they believe not. (10) Thou warnest only him who followeth the Reminder and feareth the Beneficent in secret. To him bear tidings of forgiveness and a rich reward. (11) Lo! We it is Who bring the dead to life. We record that which they send before (them), and their footprints. And all things We have kept in a clear Register. (12).

    February 11, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
    • Muneef

      Ya-Seen sura 36:
      And We have not taught him (Muhammad) poetry, nor is it meet for him. This is naught else than a Reminder and a Lecture making plain, (69) To warn whosoever liveth, and that the word may be fulfilled against the disbelievers. (70) Have they not seen how We have created for them of Our handiwork the cattle, so that they are their owners, (71) And have subdued them unto them, so that some of them they have for riding, some for food? (72) Benefits and (divers) drinks have they from them. Will they not then give thanks? (73) And they have taken (other) gods beside Allah, in order that they may be helped. (74) It is not in their power to help them; but they (the worshippers) are unto them a host in arms. (75) So let not their speech grieve thee (O Muhammad). Lo! We know what they conceal and what proclaim. (76) Hath not man seen that We have created him from a drop of seed? Yet lo! he is an open opponent. (77) And he hath coined for Us a similitude, and hath forgotten the fact of his creation, saying: Who will revive these bones when they have rotted away? (78) Say: He will revive them Who produced them at the first, for He is Knower of every creation, (79) Who hath appointed for you fire from the green tree, and behold! ye kindle from it. (80) Is not He Who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the like of them? Aye, that He is! for He is the All-Wise Creator, (81) But His command, when He intendeth a thing, is only that he saith unto it: Be! and it is. (82) Therefor glory be to Him in Whose hand is the dominion over all things! Unto Him ye will be brought back. (83).

      February 11, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
  5. Muneef

    There should be freedom of Relgion and Freedom of Worship any where and not only at home otherwise what would be the use for those Worship Houses "Mosques,Churchs" unless it is intended to be used only for Friday and Sunday prayers meaning once a week only then latter stage would be once or twice a year only during "Eids and X'Mas"..!?

    Freedom of worship means respect among the nation where any individual can commence his prayers any where on their times,even if had to be carried out in public places if no worship house close enough... Seems only Muslims are obliged to pray five times a day on a certain exact time and preferably in group prayers as a prime goal ?! While other beliefs seem to have left behind their obligations and pray once a day or maybe once a week and group prayers to them is not a prime goal...! Prayers in groups in Mosques were meant for getting community connected more and for people to become to meet each other making friendships and learning morals and ethics of Islam and men of Islam...!?

    February 11, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
    • Muneef

      Al-Naml (Ants) sura 27:
      In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
      These are revelations of the Qur'an and a Scripture that maketh plain; (1) A guidance and good tidings for believers (2) Who establish worship and pay the poor-due and are sure of the Hereafter. (3) Lo! as for those who believe not in the Hereafter, We have made their works fairseeming unto them so that they are all astray. (4) Those are they for whom is the worst of punishment, and in the Hereafter they will be the greatest losers. (5) Lo! as for thee (Muhammad), thou verily receivest the Qur'an from the presence of One Wise, Aware. (6).

      Al-Naml (Ants) sura 27:
      Is not He (best) Who created the heavens and the earth, and sendeth down for you water from the sky wherewith We cause to spring forth joyous orchards, whose trees it never hath been yours to cause to grow. Is there any God beside Allah? Nay, but they are folk who ascribe equals (unto Him)! (60) Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and placed rivers in the folds thereof, and placed firm hills therein, and hath set a barrier between the two seas? Is there any God beside Allah? Nay, but most of them know not! (61) Is not He (best) Who answereth the wronged one when he crieth unto Him and removeth the evil, and hath made you viceroys of the earth? Is there any God beside Allah? Little do they reflect! (62) Is not He (best) Who guideth you in the darkness of the land and the sea, He Who sendeth the winds as heralds of His mercy? Is there any God beside Allah? High Exalted be Allah from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)! (63) Is not He (best) Who produceth creation, then reproduceth it, and Who provideth for you from the heaven and the earth? Is there any God beside Allah? Say: Bring your proof, if ye are truthful! (64).

      Al-Naml (Ants) sura 27:
       Say (O Muhammad): None in the heavens and the earth knoweth the Unseen save Allah; and they know not when they will be raised (again). (65) Nay, but doth their knowledge reach to the Hereafter? Nay, for they are in doubt concerning it. Nay, for they cannot see it. (66) Yet those who disbelieve say: When we have become dust like our fathers, shall we verily be brought forth (again)? (67) We were promised this, forsooth, we and our fathers. (All) this is naught but fables of the men of old. (68) Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Travel in the land and see the nature of the sequel for the guilty! (69) And grieve thou not for them, nor be in distress because of what they plot (against thee). (70) And they say: When (will) this promise (be fulfilled), if ye are truthful? (71) Say: It may be that a part of that which ye would hasten on is close behind you. (72) Lo! thy Lord is full of bounty for mankind, but most of them do not give thanks. (73) Lo! thy Lord knoweth surely all that their bosoms hide, and all that they proclaim. (74) And there is nothing hidden in the heaven or the earth but it is in a clear Record. (75) Lo! this Qur'an narrateth unto the Children of Israel most of that concerning which they differ. (76) And lo! it is a guidance and a mercy for believers. (77) Lo! thy Lord will judge between them of His wisdom, and He is the Mighty, the Wise. (78) Therefor (O Muhammad) put thy trust in Allah, for thou (standest) on the plain Truth. (79) Lo! thou canst not make the dead to hear, nor canst thou make the deaf to hear the call when they have turned to flee; (80) Nor canst thou lead the blind out of their error. Thou canst make none to hear, save those who believe Our revelations and who have surrendered. (81). 

      Al-Naml (Ants) sura 27:
      And when the word is fulfilled concerning them, We shall bring forth a beast of the earth to speak unto them because mankind had not faith in Our revelations. (82) And (remind them of) the Day when We shall gather out of every nation a host of those who denied Our revelations, and they will be set in array; (83) Till, when they come (before their Lord), He will say: Did ye deny My revelations when ye could not compass them in knowledge, or what was it that ye did? (84) And the Word will be fulfilled concerning them because they have done wrong, and they will not speak. (85) Have they not seen how We have appointed the night that they may rest therein, and the day sight-giving? Lo! therein verily are portents for a people who believe. (86) And (remind them of) the Day when the Trumpet will be blown, and all who are in the heavens and the earth will start in fear, save him whom Allah willeth. And all come unto Him, humbled. (87) And thou seest the hills thou deemest solid flying with the flight of clouds: the doing of Allah Who perfecteth all things. Lo! He is Informed of what ye do. (88) Whoso bringeth a good deed will have better than its worth; and such are safe from fear that Day. (89) And whoso bringeth an ill-deed, such will be flung down on their faces in the Fire. Are ye rewarded aught save what ye did? (90) (Say): I (Muhammad) am commanded only to serve the Lord of this land which He hath hallowed, and unto Whom all things belong. And I am commanded to be of those who surrender (unto Him), (91) And to recite the Qur'an. And whoso goeth right, goeth right only for (the good of) his own soul; and as for him who goeth astray – (Unto him) say: Lo! I am only a warner. (92) And say: Praise be to Allah Who will show you His portents so that ye shall know them. And thy Lord is not unaware of what ye (mortals) do. (93). 

      February 11, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
  6. Nicole

    I hate Obama!!! he is the Antichrist!! he will kill us all

    February 11, 2011 at 4:46 pm |
    • Eric G.

      Actually Nicole, Obama is not the antichrist. There is no antichrist and there never will be. Stop watching so much Beck, you big silly.

      February 11, 2011 at 4:52 pm |
  7. Nicole

    I think that he was the wrong pick to run our country. I have not agreed to the first thing he has said. I think that he talks a bunch a bullcrap! And he is corrupt and has fooled everyone! He needs to be out of the driver seat of our homeland. He has not helped us in any way and I think he slowly tring to take all of our rights away, dictate and overthrough our country. "the land of the free"

    February 11, 2011 at 2:03 am |
  8. Seth Hill of Topanga, California

    As an atheist I don't know much about Christianity. But I did a little Google search and found that Jesus said "the hypocrites love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret." So, if we had a true theocracy here in America, I guess it would be against the law to ... oh, never mind.

    December 19, 2010 at 11:13 pm |
  9. James Marlow

    Why do Christian org. such as Tony's use the word "family" so much? I repeatedly receive telemarketing calls from a Christian group calling itself the "Council on Faith and Family." Do Christians think they have a monopoly on families? My own "Christian" parents were married: 8 times for my mother and 5 times for my father. My personal opinion is the the first amendment needs to read "freedom from religion." I'm just saying....good morals and family have little to do with Christian values or practices. The superstitions and behaviors of religious people leaves me cold.

    August 31, 2010 at 5:12 pm |
  10. Adele

    Good Morning CatholicMom
    Sorry I have not posted further, but truthfully, I was so fustrated when these posts vanished for moderation, I thought why bother! Spending time to do answers and have them go cyber face to the moderators, is not fun as I think you would agree. I think I will copy my answers and save as a draft. As you suggested before, perhaps we can meet under another thread and post them in the future. I had answers to other regular posts to topic, and some of those went to moderation, and never did ever show up, even under other topics. I have consistently checked them to see. I am now thinkiing it is not as much about the length of posts, but certain pre flagged words that automatically pulls them. In either event, its hard to follow a conversation if thats the case.
    In reposting, I would probably have to redo the original answers.
    Whatever the decision (to continue or not), I want you to know I have sincerely enjoyed our exchange! We can pray for one another, and hopefully thru these boards, try to introduce the unbelievers to the Lord, in love and by peaceful means. Hope you have a wonderful day! Sincerely, and in Christs love, Adele.

    August 25, 2010 at 7:40 am |
    • CatholicMom

      Adele,
      I do hope we meet again, even in real life! Thank you for your sincere heart and I warmly wish you the blessings of Truth.
      Peace be with you.
      Catholicmom

      August 25, 2010 at 11:48 am |
  11. Adele

    Regarding the mystical body..It is not visible, I think you misunderstood. Its the believers but I am speaking of the spiritual part, thus, not visible.

    August 24, 2010 at 10:12 am |
    • CatholicMom

      Yes, I think we agree on the mystical body of Christ as being made up of believers but that we cannot 'see' this body.

      August 24, 2010 at 11:39 am |
  12. Adele

    Assurance of my truth and Salvation
    Romans 8:37-39 “No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
    This will hopefully stick, its the last line of the moderated posts. This is so fustrating.

    August 24, 2010 at 8:12 am |
    • CatholicMom

      I am sorry you are having posting problems. I know the feeling after working so hard to try to explain something....

      August 24, 2010 at 11:37 am |
  13. Adele

    OK everything I AM POSTING KEEPS GETTING MODERATED. i WROTE THREE TIMES, TRIED CHANGING SOME PARTS i THOUGHT MAY BE THE REASON WITH NO SUCCESS. tHEY WERE RESPONSES TO YOUR PRIOR POSTS A WAY UP.

    August 24, 2010 at 8:03 am |
  14. Adele

    I am Christian because I follow Christ, have been saved, baptised by immersion, sealed with the Holy Spirit, and am following the things that the lord has set forth.
    will conclude this posting by saying I am firm in my Lord, and know that I am his child.
    John 10:27-30 “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one."
    Romans 8:37-39 “No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

    August 24, 2010 at 8:01 am |
  15. Adele

    You Said:

    CatholicMom

    Adele,
    There is much for you on purgation of sin if you really care to know… google…. ‘catholic doctrine purgatory’. It has been a part of the Church from its earliest inception. The Catholics have been and still are the Christians….I am Christian because I am Catholic.

    The Church is the pillar and foundation of the Truth or did you think it was the Bible?

    I know you have said you are the church but I can see by your writings that you are not the pillar and foundation of Truth…you may have bits and pieces of Truth but where do you think you got those?

    Part one, you said: The Church is the pillar and foundation of the Truth or did you think it was the Bible?
    No, I did not think it was the bible. God is the Pillar and the Foundation, and the Bible is his Holy word. Not the Councils of Trent and all those others mentioned
    I am Christian because I follow Christ, have been saved, baptised by immersion, sealed with the Holy Spirit, and am following the things that the lord has set forth.
    Part 2 Yous said:
    I know you have said you are the church but I can see by your writings that you are not the pillar and foundation of Truth…you may have bits and pieces of Truth but where do you think you got those?
    I say to you, by the very belief in Jesus Christ, and his holy word and promises. A divided house will not stand. I am not sure if you are making a reference that I got those by some evil means, but you are saying you see I have not the truth? Thats a pretty strong judgement for you to make. Then God is a liar? All that I have been given by his grace, is not true, as I believe it to be?
    I may ask you, believing what has been written by men, and not reading the gospel of Jesus Christ,without all those things you have been taught by those who merited for you, and not of yourown self, have YOU not the truth ? Do you know where you got yours from? Catholic church forbids the reading of any bible,other then the Catholic one, Could that be because you find the truth of what our Lord says, and not what they say it is?
    God is no respector of persons, and lets the rain fall on the good and bad alike. He has no predudice
    II Chronicles 6:32-33 Moreover concerning the stranger, which is not of thy people Israel, but is come from a far country for thy great name's sake, and thy mighty hand, and thy stretched out arm; if they come and pray in this house; Then hear thou from the heavens, even from thy dwelling place, and do according to all that the stranger calleth to thee for; that ALL PEOPLE OF THE EARTH MAY KNOW THY NAME, AND FEAR THEE, AS DOTH THY PEOPLE ISRAEL...
    If any one has a remote means to boast about their heritage, it is the Jewish Christian, for Jesus came to him! Nevertheless, the scripture hath concluded (1) all under sin so no one can boast and (2) that God is the God of both the Jew and the Gentile (a Gentile is anyone that is not a Jew).

    Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also. (Romans 3:29)
    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)

    I will conclude this posting by saying I am firm in my Lord, and know that I am his child.
    John 10:27-30 “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one."
    Romans 8:37-39 “No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

    August 24, 2010 at 7:55 am |
  16. Adele

    I will address the Purgatory thing tomorrow. Good night and God Bless You.

    August 23, 2010 at 10:28 pm |
  17. Adele

    You Said:

    CatholicMom

    Adele,
    There is much for you on purgation of sin if you really care to know… google…. ‘catholic doctrine purgatory’. It has been a part of the Church from its earliest inception. The Catholics have been and still are the Christians….I am Christian because I am Catholic.

    The Church is the pillar and foundation of the Truth or did you think it was the Bible?

    I know you have said you are the church but I can see by your writings that you are not the pillar and foundation of Truth…you may have bits and pieces of Truth but where do you think you got those?

    Part one, you said: The Church is the pillar and foundation of the Truth or did you think it was the Bible?
    No, I did not think it was the bible. God is the Pillar and the Foundation, and the Bible is his Holy word. Not the Councils of Trent and all those others mentioned
    I am Christian because I follow Christ, have been saved, baptised by immersion, sealed with the Holy Spirit, and am following the things that the lord has set forth.
    Part 2 Yous said:
    I know you have said you are the church but I can see by your writings that you are not the pillar and foundation of Truth…you may have bits and pieces of Truth but where do you think you got those?
    I say to you, by the very belief in Jesus Christ, and his holy word and promises. A divided house will not stand. I am not sure if you are making a reference that I got those by some evil means, but you are saying you see I have not the truth? Thats a pretty strong judgement for you to make. Then God is a liar? All that I have been given by his grace, is not true, as I believe it to be?
    I may ask you, believing what has been written by men, and not reading the gospel of Jesus Christ,without all those things you have been taught by those who merited for you, and not of yourown self, have YOU not the truth ? Do you know where you got yours from? Catholic church forbids the reading of any bible,other then the Catholic one, Could that be because you find the truth of what our Lord says, and not what they say it is?
    God is no respector of persons, and lets the rain fall on the good and bad alike. He has no predudice
    II Chronicles 6:32-33 Moreover concerning the stranger, which is not of thy people Israel, but is come from a far country for thy great name's sake, and thy mighty hand, and thy stretched out arm; if they come and pray in this house; Then hear thou from the heavens, even from thy dwelling place, and do according to all that the stranger calleth to thee for; that ALL PEOPLE OF THE EARTH MAY KNOW THY NAME, AND FEAR THEE, AS DOTH THY PEOPLE ISRAEL...

    Jesus is for everybody–whether Jewish, Black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, Indian, Aborigine, Eskimo, Tibetan or White–I do not mean to leave anyone out. Jesus is for the old, young, fat, skinny, not-so-cute, cute, poor, rich, diseased, healthy, etc. Your externals do not make one tiny bit of difference–just repent, believe, and follow. When Jesus walked this earth, it was the outcasts of society that heard Him gladly–the prostitutes, the publicans, the sinners.

    If any one has a remote means to boast about their heritage, it is the Jewish Christian, for Jesus came to him! Nevertheless, the scripture hath concluded (1) all under sin so no one can boast and (2) that God is the God of both the Jew and the Gentile (a Gentile is anyone that is not a Jew).

    Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also. (Romans 3:29)
    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)

    I will conclude this posting by saying I am firm in my Lord, and know that I am his child.
    John 10:27-30 “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one."
    Romans 8:37-39 “No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

    August 23, 2010 at 10:24 pm |
  18. Adele

    CatholicMom

    Adele,

    You should never judge your soul or the soul of anyone else for that is totally God’s judgment to make.

    To say that you are 100% positive of your salvation is the sin of presumption. "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us," (1 John 1:8). Nowhere in the Bible does it say you are saved by Faith alone. We are to have Faith, Hope, and Charity [love].
    I have no problem with that.
    We are saved by faith, not works: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith–and this not from youselves, it is the gift of God–not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do " (Eph. 2:8,9).
    " If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved " (Romans 10:9, 10).

    The parts of the Bible that speak about all the things you question….must not be in your Bible. They are in the Catholic Bible, the one that the Catholic Church put together around 300 years after the Resurrection of our Lord….the one that stood as the Bible until Martin Luther in the 1500’s took it and threw out Books, changed words, added words and subtracted words, and then others broke from him and did the same; the domino effect has been going on for a few hundred years now rendering a wide range of man-made images of the original Bible and over 30, 000 ecclesial communities claiming to ‘have the truth’. It is a man made mess because the Holy Spirit would not have established over 30,000 differing truths.

    If you want the Truth about Catholicism don’t go to HEAR about it from someone who hasn’t been SENT or read about it from someone who writes hate messages about Catholicism. There are true Catholic sites on the internet that are free for you to check out the Truth; don’t accept lies and deceptions to cloud your mind. If you wanted to find out about a Cadillac do you go ask the Ford dealer?

    MY RESPONSE (Adele)
    I never said I was without sin. If I was without sin, I would not need the wonderful gift of Salvation. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God (Romans3:23)
    There is nothing presumptous about saying I am 100% sure of my Salvation, because, Gods word says so:
    Here it is..

    Romans 8:1-17 (King James Version)

    Romans 8
    1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

    4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

    6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

    7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

    8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

    9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

    10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

    11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

    12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

    13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

    14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

    15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

    17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

    King James Version (KJV)

    I already addressed the last part of this post, about Ford dealers (eaxample by you) first, up above, in a seprate post before this one.

    You say:

    The parts of the Bible that speak about all the things you question….must not be in your Bible. They are in the Catholic Bible

    Answer (Adele) I assume you are referring to the questions about these things.
    papacy, worship / adoration of Mary (or the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, or Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in Heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition ,mortal and venial sin??

    Would you please address each of these and tell me where they are in scripture? I will respond where they are or are not in my King James version

    I would like to say here, as an after thought..If the church you speak of, that Jesus spoke of, was the universal church, that covers pretty much of what I beleieve the true church is, the body of believers overall that I spoke of above. I think the Catholic church is the one who decided by its man made laws, that IT was the "true" church. (catholic means universal, correct?) If you agee that the Catholic Church (being your church) , is only for specifically Catholics, then what about the thief on the cross? This man was a convicted criminal, most likely not a Catholic, but when he calls out to Jesus to remember him....Jesus says he will be with him this day, in paradise. See my point?

    August 23, 2010 at 9:29 pm |
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