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Fort Worth transit agency bans faith-based ads
December 21st, 2010
11:15 AM ET

Fort Worth transit agency bans faith-based ads

By Katie Glaeser, CNN

The message from Fort Worth, Texas: no more religious advertisements allowed, at least on its transit system.

The pro and anti-religious ad battle has been front and center this holiday season. Atheist groups and the Catholic League had a billboard brawl in New York late last month, and now the fight has reached Texas.

The Board of the Fort Worth Transportation Authority (The T) voted unanimously last week to formally adopt an advertising policy for all T property which includes a ban on faith-based ads.

The vote was prompted after a recent ad purchased by The Dallas-Fort Worth Coalition of Reason which caused a lot of commotion in town. The ad posted on four buses reads "Millions of Americans are good without God."

Joan Hunter, communications manager for The T, said the decision for the ban was not based on the content of the Coalition's ad, but rather the amount of resources the department had to spare to field concerns in reaction to it.

"The demands on our time to respond and trying to engage us as a public forum was pulling us from focus on the operation of a transit agency and that is our business," Hunter said in an e-mail message to CNN.

The T already had guidelines in place against tobacco and alcohol ads, some local political ads, and those deemed obscene. In a news release, The T says the new policy will "exclude any ads with religious, non-theistic, or faith-based content and all political ads."

"Our policy regarding belief ads that we had was impartial and had worked without interruptions to our time and resources in the past," Hunter said. She also noted there are several other ads posted on their bus fleet right now, including one that says "Jesus is the reason for the season" and another paid for by a Catholic organization.

Terry McDonald, coordinator of the Coalition, said the group's campaign was not scheduled to come out during December. It was being worked on last summer to coincide with a book signing by Harvard humanist chaplain Greg Epstein. When the event fell through, the Coalition thought the title of Epstein's book, "Good Without God," still held an important message.

"The reason for our campaign is to let people who are nonbelievers know about the Dallas-Fort Worth Coalition of Reason and that has succeeded very, very well," McDonald said.

He said the group didn't expect there to be anywhere near this much publicity but with the media coverage of the controversy the Coalition's affiliates are seeing their memberships increase and they've received donations from across the country.

Kyev Tatum, pastor of Friendship Rock Baptist Church in Fort Worth, called The T Board's vote "a dangerous precedent" because it only took a matter of days for religion to be taken out of public policy. Tatum had called for a boycott of the buses when the controversy began.

"The compromise was worse than what we had before," Tatum said, "because the compromise says Christians can no longer advertise and we don't like that."

Tatum, president of the local chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, said his organization's response to the ad is a new campaign called "Better with God." They're hoping to get one million supporters behind the cause.
"They may be good without him," Tatum said, "but we can say they're better with him."
Any current advertising with The T that falls into a banned category will be allowed to remain in place through the remainder of the contract. The Coalition's ads will expire in early January.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Christianity • Church and state • Culture wars • United States

soundoff (1,036 Responses)
  1. the truth

    Wow, this world just keeps going downhill. Wonder wen we'll hit rock bottom. Soon, I'm sure... Economy, religion, possibility of WW3, the INTERNET, haha ! Wow and millions of careleSs people that would rather keep breaking things than fixing them.. I really wish peoples ignorance and stupidity would stop bcuz I have a son, and I'm sure he's gona have kids, and unlike most "citizens" of this destructive world and society.. I do care.

    December 22, 2010 at 2:53 am |
  2. Swimmer23

    No more magical sky daddy ads on buses in Fort Worth! Mwahahaha... everything is going according to the plan. Reasonable people unite against mega cults!

    December 22, 2010 at 2:50 am |
    • Chris

      No more amusing atheist ad wars against Christian groups either. Oh well, hopefully the fundies on both sides can stfu.

      December 22, 2010 at 3:09 am |
  3. dike

    now to remove faith based wording in the currency... "in god we trust" Who is we? Instead have death and taxes cant be avoided...

    December 22, 2010 at 2:38 am |
  4. amber

    dont throw your pearls to the pigs.

    December 22, 2010 at 2:33 am |
  5. Adolf Lovster

    ACTUALLY, Millions of people are GOOD without CHRISTIANITY ect......(and it's many crusades;()

    Every atom in the universe is god, it's just that we don't look at things from a religion's Hypocritical POINT OF VIEW.

    Nature and LOVE rules/We are not Dumb and Blind.

    Save The EARTH (our mother)

    AMEN

    December 22, 2010 at 2:26 am |
  6. pete

    Chaz, you seem like a nice kid who wants to do right so ponder this question for us. If man chose sin and god allowed all these bad things to happen to people then why must over the course of history must billions of innocent people including children suffer the consequences of that choice when, being omnipotent all god had to do was say "poof" and make everything right?

    December 22, 2010 at 2:19 am |
    • Mack Harrell

      Good question. Excellent, in fact! Only, not a knock down argument against Christianity. But here's another question for you, Pete: where did our sense of justice (and wanting the world to be put to rights) come from? And why should it matter at all to you (or anyone else, for that matter)? One final question: are you aware that the line cordoning off the good guys from the bad buys runs right down the center of all of us – each of us – including you? Is there any hope for us all? For any of us?

      December 22, 2010 at 8:30 am |
    • CatholicMom

      Pete,
      Without free will we would be robots. Robots cannot love or choose anything on their own…it would be all programmed in.

      December 22, 2010 at 11:38 am |
  7. True Christian

    My heart truely aches for all the non beleivers out their. Very soon Jesus will return with a flaming sword and banish all non beleivers into a tortuous inferno of eternal suffering. Just call out to Jesus, he can hear you. He can also read your thoughts. He knows if you've been good or bad. Don't beleive the scientists with there "evidence", Christians don't base their beliefs on evidence, we have Faith.

    December 22, 2010 at 2:09 am |
    • pete

      I just hope CNN gets some good video

      December 22, 2010 at 2:22 am |
    • Observer

      "Very soon Jesus will return with a flaming sword and banish all non beleivers into a tortuous inferno of eternal suffering."

      You might actually READ the Bible. Jesus was a man of love and compassion. He wasn't the heartless, vicious, mass murderer that you are fantasizing. You apparently have him confused with Satan or else don't know the difference.

      December 22, 2010 at 2:31 am |
    • HotAirAce

      @True Christian

      It's Santa Claus, your other imaginary friend, who knows if you have been bad or good.

      And "christians don't base their beliefs on evidence" may be the truest and most revealing thing said by a believer...

      December 22, 2010 at 2:35 am |
    • Observer

      @HotAirAce

      Amen.

      December 22, 2010 at 2:36 am |
    • Claire C.

      Science works equally for everyone - Christians, atheists, Buddhists, Muslims, you name it. It's just a way of better understanding our world. Faith practices are a whole different ball game, unrelated to science. You can have Jesus and science, too. Jesus used his genius of human behavior to teach large crowds of people. Many of Jesus' teachings have been scientifically validated. Prayer does, in fact, have a healing effect. Forgiveness does, in fact, bring peace of mind and trust. There is no separation or "sides".

      December 22, 2010 at 4:32 am |
    • Lou

      "My heart truely aches for all the non beleivers out their."

      Why? It's none of your business!

      December 22, 2010 at 10:21 am |
    • CatholicMom

      True Christian,

      Christianity is not in conflict with science. Theories are not Truth. Anything that is proven true is Truth and not a theory any longer. The Holy Spirit has promised to guide and guard Jesus' Church, evil will not prevail, and the Paraclete was sent to bring the Church into the fullness of Truth as we can bear it. This promise has held true for 2000 years. Man could not do this by himself.

      December 22, 2010 at 11:31 am |
    • HotAirAce

      @Catholic Mom

      All according to your poor understanding of the scientific method and the rcc's theory of a supernatural tribal myth...

      December 22, 2010 at 2:23 pm |
  8. Chaz

    I have read most of the post on here, and I just had a few thoughts from everyones writings. Im 19 years old and I gave my life to Jesus when I was 16 and a junior in highschool. So I have not grown up in church. I want to say something to all my believers out there first. When I first got saved I thought that I had to be defend the faith at all cost and anyone who didnt agree I must not hang out with, I must fight against and they where my enemy. As I have grown in my faith and have walked more with Jesus and learned more of the person of Jesus I realize that the love and the grace of Jesus will always draw men to God more than Gods wrath. If you read in the books of Acts the, Paul, Peter and many othere Disciples preached the word taught the word and where examples of the word but where still rejected and they just shook the cloths and moved on. They reasond with them daily the Bible says. I think as believers we must just be a good witness and stop telling the world what we know because they know alot as well but be a witness of action and just love on them. Being a second mile believer as Jesus has called us to be. John 13:35 Jesus said " as I have loved you,so must you love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." Maybe people shy away from so called believer is because they are living on a religion and not a relationship. I do understand when people say religion is bogus because it is, because Jesus did not die for religion but for relationship. The word church in greek means the "called out ones" not a building. Second thought is for everyone who is blaming God for every little thing that happens when we bring up issues like this, why would God allow sickness, why would God allow famine, starving children, this and that, but my question is why do you blame God. If you read from a biblical point of few it is sin is the reason the Earth is cursed and it was man decesion to sin, and if man had another chances to do it all over we would most deffenitley do it again.Man still murders,cheats,steal, covets, hates. I went to haiti after the earthquake to do some relief work and the crazy thing is, is the christians in that area where being fed and clothed and they where reaching out and helping other, just strenghtend me to know God does take care of his children like he says he would. Third thing is I would like to defend the commments of what christians have done in the past, Jesus said he will come back for a pure bride (church aka people), and if you read in revelations you will see this process of purification and also the things he had for the ealry church to change and work on. For those who are truly follow Jesus Christ he is purifying each day, and also they are many people that may have called themselves christians and followers of Christ but show no fruit or no change from the teaching of Jesus. You will find in a few examples in the bible where Jesus said there will be some who thought that they where followers but Jesus will say to them that he doesnt even know them. Reading everyone post really has encourged me the importance on the call in my heart and the fire inside of me to truly be a disciple of Christ, and hear from him and change and have a relationship with God and to not allow my self to become comfortable because when man becomes comfortable he forms a relition around his comfort.

    December 22, 2010 at 1:56 am |
    • dike

      @chaz
      wow are you a terrorist?
      d

      December 22, 2010 at 2:42 am |
    • Chris

      @dike: What is your problem? Did you even read or understand anything he said? Atheists would do well to reprimand the hordes of trolls making them look like herds of slightly unstable spambots.

      December 22, 2010 at 3:20 am |
    • Claire C.

      Chaz, we all grew up in a culture that was steeped in doctrine–some religious and some not. And some of us find what we need in a particular belief system and it works for us. We may remain in that system or switch, but the cultural doctrine is always behind the scenes. The US has a rich background from Greek, Roman, and Northern European influences. We don't even see its effect on us. What works for one to bring hope, comfort, a moral code, etc. may be different for another. Some are drawn to the supernatural and some are not (a majority are). And religious systems have traditionally been used to categorize and control people by those who find themselves in positions of power. Individuals react differently upon exposure to different ideas. Atheists have been marginalized for a very long time, and they are just starting to "come out of the closet" so-to-speak without fear. This situation was easily predicted, since any minority group first finding its voice comes under attack from the majority. We see it reversed in China, where the religious are the minority! It's human nature, which we all share, irrespective of what we come to believe.

      December 22, 2010 at 4:19 am |
  9. StevieBoy

    What's good for the God-goose is good for the Gander! If you can advertise one way then you can advertise the other too – or NOT! Christians are just so used to shoving their beliefs in mythology down the throats of man that they just can't handle the fact that so many don't buy into that silly b.s. Get over it! Churches are becoming nothing but museums as people learn to think on their own.

    December 22, 2010 at 1:33 am |
  10. pete

    The christian advertisers complained about the non believers ads so the company decided nobody could advertise. The christians became upset and complained again saying it was the atheists fault. The atheists were largely silent about the whole issue. Reminds me of the tactics my wife uses to start an argument

    December 22, 2010 at 1:27 am |
  11. katsrule

    “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

    Stephen Roberts quotes

    the same x-tians complaining about not being allowed to advertise in the buses and crying because their faith is being attacked are the same ones that would call other religions a myth, ie. muslims, mormons, etc. All religions are simply myths created to establish a set of behavior rules to simply make a few select church leaders rich by scaring people about what will happen in the afterlife. Very easy to do, since NOBODY has come back from the dead. oh yeah, I forgot about zombie jesus to get your brains (that's why catholics are so dumb)

    December 22, 2010 at 1:27 am |
    • balance is power

      the churches across the world are a different set of beliefs from your own, you gain nothing from calling them dumb or mythological.

      in the end if you act in such a manner you are not acting any better than the Christians you are accusing, practice what you preach, instead of accusing one side of intolerance and bigotry toward your system of beliefs try looking at your intolerance of theirs.

      And i really do hate that babble of "but they killed millions in the crusades" and such, have you any idea that the past is the past as well? and that there is simply to solution in harboring hatred. this goes out to christians as well.

      these theisms and atheists need to quit fighting over the world, it is ours to share.

      December 22, 2010 at 1:40 am |
    • pete

      The greatest intolerance of all is the one that condemns someone to hell for not believing. It's in your book. Do not tiptoe around it. If you are a christian you beleive it and if you believe it you should have the ba!!s to tell me.

      December 22, 2010 at 1:57 am |
    • balance is power

      i am not a christian, and also it does say in the book that it condemns people to hell and that is the part in which i do not agree upon. I have been atheists for long but i realize that there is no peace in hating others.

      If a christ flamer gets on here and starts complaining about atheists, it will not help at all for people to flame back. you Can't fight fire with fire.

      All that I'm saying is that if you both yell at each-other all the time it makes you both look like fools :\ it's just an embarrassment that people here can't even have a rational debate without reaching into their book of insults and calling each-other fools.

      It's just honestly an embarrassment.

      The comment i posted wasn't a christian flame, but me simply telling him to control himself, he is simply embarrassing the rest of the community.

      December 22, 2010 at 3:26 am |
  12. guestfromMN

    The best thing about this whole argument is, that everyone is exercising FREE WILL... i am a christian and i believe the worst thing about religion is organized religion. you can be faithful with out having to go to a church and be told how bad you are because you do this or that. faith by guilt is not faith. some people chose to believe and some don't

    December 22, 2010 at 1:23 am |
    • CatholicMom

      GuestfromMN,
      You have that one right…we have FREE WILL…so we each do as we choose….whether we follow the Bible alone; or pick and choose from the Bible; or have faith in the Bible, the Church, and the Magisterium; or bits and pieces of all the above; or none of the above; we all exercise our free will.
      Curiosity has me wondering which of the above best fits you….

      December 22, 2010 at 11:14 am |
  13. Justme

    This sign doesn't offend me. I do believe in God. It doesn't shake my faith. I know that by posting on CNN or anywhere else that I'm not very likely to change an atheist into believing. Also, if your faith is strong, an atheist shouldn't be able to change your mind. I'm not a big fan of organized religion, which I do believe causes division among those that believe in God. Yes, there are churches that do good, but there are nonreligious organizations that do as well. Just my two cents.

    Merry Christmas to all!

    December 22, 2010 at 1:00 am |
    • Dragon

      Merry Christmas Justme.

      December 22, 2010 at 1:02 am |
    • JUSTME

      i dont think there is anything wrong with believing in god, forcing a belief on to others is wrong, and what organized religioun is doing is wrong and christmas is nothing more than a huge selling gig for businesses

      December 22, 2010 at 1:06 am |
    • Kevin

      Very well said, JUSTME. Perhaps in another venue I would challenge your beliefs, politely, over a beer.

      Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays,
      Kevin the atheist

      December 22, 2010 at 1:07 am |
    • JUSTME

      lol i get that all the time, and I get some great conversations

      December 22, 2010 at 1:09 am |
    • balance is power

      in the end fighting about weather god exists or not is pointless and a waste of time, It's all well and good as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of anyone.

      I will let you believe in god, i will let you believe there is not a god, i will let you think there is a flying spaghetti monster, all that i ask is that you all get along.

      Christmas is a time of goodwill, a time of helping and loving others regardless of beliefs, race, or political views. i really hope this message can be spread.

      Happy holidays 🙂

      December 22, 2010 at 1:26 am |
    • CatholicMom

      JUSTME,
      I do not see how a belief can be ‘forced’ on anyone [as you say]…what you believe is in your mind and heart and no one can touch that but you. You can be persecuted until you ‘say’ what the persecutor wants to hear, but we all know that belief cannot be touched and only you know what you really believe regardless of what you say.

      December 22, 2010 at 11:05 am |
  14. smile

    being athiest does'nt mean your evil or "a sinner" as people say anyones religon is a choice! i chose to be athiest. people CAN give there opinions but they can't call us evil because of what we belive!

    December 22, 2010 at 12:57 am |
    • balance is power

      amen

      December 22, 2010 at 1:42 am |
  15. balance is power

    let's just slap a big poster saying in big white letters

    "YOUR GOD MAY OR MAY NOT EXCIST, GET OVER IT"

    I'm tired of yelling theists and yelling atheists, I see no reason why you should find comfort in others believing the same you do.
    I don't care who killed how many and who is less productive to society, in the end it is not the religion that is the problem, it is the conflict itself,
    If you believe you should stick people in jail for not believing in god you may or may not go to hell.
    If you believe you should shout down and unnecessary fight those who believe differently than you do you may or may not go to hell.

    the reason the separation of church and state was placed was not to protect some from religious persecution, it's to keep the fight from even appearing. It's a waste of time, and THAT is the thing that is a burden on society, THE WASTE OF TIME.

    in the end it isn't about who is what religion, it's about who is willing to shut up to keep the peace. control yourself.

    December 22, 2010 at 12:56 am |
  16. Dave

    Religion is the root of all evil...

    December 22, 2010 at 12:55 am |
    • Chris

      Is this something you're repeating out of your atheist handbook or do you have any actual basis for rhetoric...

      December 22, 2010 at 12:58 am |
    • Observer

      Nope. Neither is atheism or agnosticism.

      December 22, 2010 at 12:58 am |
    • balance is power

      the root of all evil is not religion, nor is it atheists themselves.

      the root of all even is the hate and tension between the two sides.

      you are simply adding to it.

      December 22, 2010 at 12:59 am |
    • pete

      Religion may not be the root of all evil but many things done in the name of religion have gone a long way to reinforce that assumption

      December 22, 2010 at 1:17 am |
    • balance is power

      well it's not like there is anything we can do about it, but yelling our heads off at people who are theist isn't going to help much.

      it's turning into an argument of who started it, it doesn't matter to me who started it, neither of you are using your organization wisely.

      those two groups putting up the posters could've just as easily spent that money on some sort of charity.

      December 22, 2010 at 3:29 am |
  17. Whats Real

    Religion is for people who are scared of going to hell, Spirituality is for those who have already been there.

    I personally cannot stand what christians in this country stand for. I do not like driving on a highway and seeing
    billboards saying I am going to burn in hell. You "Followers" are just that. To stupid and foolish to think for yourselves
    so you fell upon a false deity that is nothing more than a fairytale. Think for yourselves, believe in yourselves and look
    outside the box.

    December 22, 2010 at 12:48 am |
    • CatholicMom

      Whats Real,
      If you see a billboard that says ‘I am going to burn in hell’….why do you think it is ‘talking’ to you specifically?

      December 22, 2010 at 10:49 am |
  18. RED

    I'M SORRY FOR THOSE OF YOU BELIEVE IN NO HIGHER POWER.

    December 22, 2010 at 12:47 am |
    • HotAirAce

      And I chuckle at those that do, and those that can't find the SHIFT key...

      December 22, 2010 at 12:52 am |
    • pete

      Thanks for the thought but it's not needed, I've had a good life.

      December 22, 2010 at 12:59 am |
    • balance is power

      pity is a sad thing to be given my friend, in this world we cannot possibly have peace if we treat others as if lesser than us due to beliefs, it is an evil far greater than not believing in a greater power.

      I don't want your pity, neither do you want mine, i insist that the only truth we will ever find is that the disrespect being handed to each other is not going to help anything.

      In the perfect world it is not a world of pure religion, or pure atheism, it is a world born of respect.

      December 22, 2010 at 1:03 am |
    • Lou

      "I'M SORRY FOR THOSE OF YOU BELIEVE IN NO HIGHER POWER."

      Why? It's none of your business.

      December 22, 2010 at 10:19 am |
  19. MM

    Freedom of speech is not forcing any kind of belief on anyone. Why is it that when it comes to religion, so many atheist seem to want a ban on freedom on speech and Christians want to ban the freedom of speech of those who don't believe. Freedom is freedom and people need to stop being so stupid and want it their way all the time.

    December 22, 2010 at 12:34 am |
    • Dragon

      I personally don't care what anyone believes in or doesn't believe in. I do however take exception to them shoving their beliefs, regardless of type, in my face. When that happens, I shove back. If someone wants to believe in a God, they are welcome to and more power to them. However when someone wants to believe in a God and then try to shove that belief in my face at every opportunity and then get upset when I have no interest in it, or seeing it, or hearing it at all... That is a problem.

      You want to believe, fine, believe in the quite of your own home and church. I'll die to allow you that right.
      You want to try to force your beliefs on me through adds, legislation (however veiled), proselytizing, walking up to me and asking me if I have found jesus (etc add nauseum) then yeah.. I have a problem with that because then YOUR beliefs are starting to intrude upon MY space and MY beliefs (or lack of).

      Where does a believers right to believe and my right to not be subjected or bombarded daily/hourly/minutely with their beliefs end and begin?

      It ends and begins when we keep our beliefs to ourselves. Each persons belief is personal and between them and what ever they believe in or not believe in. Christians don't have the right to constantly subject me to a nonstop bombardment of their beliefs, if they are going to object to me fighting fire with fire. If they can't handle someone doing the same thing they are doing but from an alternative belief system then they need to stop doing it. Period.

      This 'Controversy' was not started by the Atheist group. They simply placed four billboard adds on buses. The controversy started when CHRISTIANS went ballistic over it and started threatening boycotts of the bus-line, calling and complaining etc. The end result is that THEIR adds also got pulled and now THEY are even madder.

      They couldn't accept that this group had as much right to have adds on those buses as they did. Made a stink, and then were surprised and angry over the results of THEIR behavior.

      Well.. now they can live with the fruits of their labors.

      December 22, 2010 at 12:54 am |
    • Kevin

      Atheists don't want to squelch free speech. We rely on it. This is the opposite of religion which historically has done much better in environments where freedom of expression was limited, or where the dominate religious organization had control over the dissemination of information. The fact is that religion tends to do very poorly in environments that allow the free exchange of ideas. So you're mistaken if you think that atheists want to squelch free speech.

      December 22, 2010 at 1:01 am |
    • Wisdom4u2

      What's up with 'dragon'? Poor Dude is obviously having issues with trying 'not to believe'.

      All I can say is good luck with that, dragon!

      December 22, 2010 at 2:01 am |
    • Dragon

      @wisdom4U Sorry but I am not having any problems in 'trying not to believe". I am not an Atheist, however I also am not a Christian. I have no problems in NOT believing in your religion. I do however have a problem when your religion is used to bludgeon anyone who doesn't believe as you do. I have problems with your religion when they come knocking on my door after I have told them to stay away not once, but 26 times (now). I have problems with your religion when it is OK for you to scream and yell and spout off your beliefs, but it isn't ok for me to do the same with mine.

      I have a problem when people of your belief system poison my dogs because I am not 'one of them'. I have a problem when my trucks tires are slashed by 'god fearing christian boys'. I have a problem when my municipal water and electricity are turned off, even though my bill is paid in full, when my garbage is not picked up (and then I am fined) even though my property taxes are paid in full and when I am told to my face by the people who did it that they don't want some godless individual in their town.

      I have issues with people of your belief that are so intolerant of others beliefs that you go out of your way to persecute THEM but scream for your rights to not be persecuted if someone responds to you in the same manner as you treat them.

      No I have no problem in NOT believing in your imaginary God because if you (and people like you) are a representative of his followers, he is not a God I care to associate with.

      December 22, 2010 at 2:22 am |
    • Wisdom4u2

      @ dragon

      I'm just going to say this and then I'm out.

      There’s an old wise saying and I believe it goes something like this:
      “It’s so hard to see when my eyes are on me!”

      Ah, I think that would apply to you.
      Go back and read over your comments and count how many times you used the word “I”.
      Narcissistic much? I think so.
      No where in my comment did I ever mention religion.
      Where did you get that from?

      Look at this crazy crap you wrote:
      “I have problems with your religion when they come knocking on my door after I have told them to stay away not once, but 26 times (now). I have problems with your religion when it is OK for you to scream and yell and spout off your beliefs, but it isn't ok for me to do the same with mine.”

      Ha-ha, and since when does ‘religion’ have the ability to go knocking on doors? Duh!

      I don’t know you!!!
      I’ve never come to your door!!
      And frankly, I’m not interested in knowing a dag-gone thing about you.
      So, you better go find somebody else to sound off on!

      So, believe me when I say, You are one crazy road lizard!

      Peace out!!

      December 22, 2010 at 3:59 am |
    • CatholicMom

      Dragon,

      Those are not Christians at heart that did those things to you. If we love our neighbor as we should those things would never happen. You should not have to keep your Godless ideals hidden inside your home just to be safe in the world, just as Christians should not have to keep their God ideals hidden inside their homes or Church. We should be safe at all times from persecution.

      December 22, 2010 at 10:40 am |
    • Scott

      @CatholicMom: That’s right, any Christian who does things you disagree with can’t be a real christian

      December 23, 2010 at 12:47 am |
  20. AmericanSam

    I think if an Atheist group wants its message to resonate, the "Good without God" bit is not going to do it. Something a bit more logical and less insulting to people who are religious.

    December 22, 2010 at 12:33 am |
    • MM

      This message does not offend me. It makes me very sad but it is the right of the group to free speech. We should not try to muzzle the freedom of speech.

      December 22, 2010 at 12:35 am |
    • Observer

      So is the religious theme "you deserve to go to Hell" less insulting? Get real.

      December 22, 2010 at 12:37 am |
    • Dave

      @Observer: No, you get real. "you deserve to go to Hell". Let me know if/when you have seen that plastered on a city bus. And what's so insulting anyway? Atheists don't believe in hell.

      December 22, 2010 at 12:40 am |
    • Sweetenedtea

      Er...how is saying they are "Good without God" insulting to people who are religious? They didn't say religious people are "Bad with God" or that atheists are - to paraphrase the far more insulting Christians' reply cited in this article - "Better without God." You get insulted far too easily by other people talking only about themselves.

      December 22, 2010 at 12:48 am |
    • Observer

      @Dave,
      You can't possibly PRETEND that isn't a main theme of Christians for anyone they disagree with. Why can't so many Christians be HONEST with themselves? Get real.

      December 22, 2010 at 12:49 am |
    • CatholicMom

      Observer,

      Where did you read “you deserve to go to Hell”? On a bus in your town? If so, why did you take the “you” part of it as meaning you specifically?

      December 22, 2010 at 10:26 am |
    • sleepytime

      I fail to see what is illogical or insulting about the message of the ads.

      December 22, 2010 at 1:17 pm |
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