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January 17th, 2011
10:52 AM ET

Man sentenced to death for killing Christians

A man accused of killing Christians after a Christmas mass a year ago in Egypt has been sentenced to death, Egypt's state-run Al Ahram newspaper reported Sunday.

Mohamed El-Kamouny, one of three people accused in the targeted killing of members of the Coptic Christian sect after a Christmas mass, is the first to be sentenced.

Seven people were killed - six Copts and a Muslim guard - in the January 2010 incident outside a church in the southern town of Naga Hammadi. Coptics observe Christmas Day on January 7.

The judge who sentenced El-Kamouny postponed the sentencing of the other two defendants until next month, Al Ahram reported.

The sentencing comes in the wake of a new round of concerns over the security of Copts in Egypt.

Read the full story here about the sentence for the man accused of killing Christians in Egypt.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Africa • Christianity • Church • Coptic • Egypt • Violence

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  1. Kieran

    The article is implying he was sentenced because he killed Christians. Oh my what if he killed non-Christians instead?

    February 6, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
  2. Enoch

    Are you kidding! They won't kill him - they will just give him a couple of millions and send him to Saudi Arabia

    January 18, 2011 at 9:07 pm |
  3. Muneef

    CONGRESS OF WORLD and TRADITIONAL RELIGIONS

    His Excellency Abdallah Bin Abdul Muhsin At-Turki, Secretary General of the World Muslim League  
    "Our appeal, clear-cut and strong in its arguments and realism, is welcomed by the nations that have gone through unsuccessful attempts to ensure peace, safety and stability, which ignored the diversity of cultures and civilisations traditional for previous generations in the human development".

    Bartholomew I, Patriarch of Constantinople Orthodox Church  
    "Let the high ideals for the sake of which we have worked in concord and love these days, become the strong reality in the name of world peace and happiness of peoples. Praying to God inspired".

    His Eminence Cardinal Josef Tomco, Head of the Delegation of the Holy See
    "I thank Almighty God for bringing us together in this country to reflect and pray for peace as men and women of peace... ".

    Jona Metsger, Leader of the Judaic Delegation, Chief Rabbi of Israel  
    "The love and patience, desire to live in the world, reigning around this negotiating table, will be embodied during a life".

    Jamyang Luosangjiumei Tudanquejinima, Deputy Chairman of the Buddhist Association of China  
    "Today's world is far from tranquil, as regional conflicts triggered by ethnical, religious and territorial factors keep cropping up, Religion advocates peace and justice. Religion has been made use of from time to time, just like the strings of a harp being plucked, to trigger and foment conflicts, separation, hatred and upheaval. This has aroused the common concern of the religious leaders across the globe".

    Well say few had words spoken from the heart and some shown less concern...
    Can see there are no more efforts seriously made since not sure if those represent all branches of each faith which means their should be a congress for each faith listing all their recognized branches..and the president of each congress is then the speaker of this world congress..

    Unfortunately I am not seeing any speaker for Pagans and who made partners with God..to say some thing about how life and respect should be?
    Sure will be happy to see a speaker for the Atheist congress after all it is faith to claim God and devil do not exist..?!

    It is those who should be making codes for culture and religions and faiths living together completing each other rather than against each other...God has allowed diversity of religions and faiths out of easiness for his creatures mankind to make choices and where he will punish or give to mankind judging his inner soul (heart&mind)...and not on which religion he was...!!? Submission can be achieved through all religions or faiths and not only to what God had said but as well to what is best for the communities as to morals,values,virtues and all of that stuff that make any nations as angels on earth...? A valuable words I heard during my childhood that ( Nations are not but Morals and their Morals Go they Go with it)...!? And noted the difference between then when there were Morals and our Present time when there are non left...!?
    Then only we will be able to greet each other as Wa Salam,Peace,Shalom... 

    http://www.religions-congress.org/content/view/167/lang,english/            

    January 18, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
    • Reality

      What they should have said at the CONGRESS OF WORLD and TRADITIONAL RELIGIONS:

      1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

      "New Torah For Modern Minds

      Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment.

      2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan se-cts.

      The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hit-ti-tes, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.
      earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

      For added "pizz-azz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "fil-icider".

      Current RCC problems:

      Pedo-ph-iliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

      3. Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

      Current problems:

      Adu-lterous preachers, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

      4. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.
      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      5. Hinduism (from an online Hindu site) – "Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centered and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’."

      The caste/laborer system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence are problems when saying a fair and rational God founded Hinduism."

      Current crises:

      The caste system and cow worship/reverence.

      6. Buddhism- "Buddhism began in India about 500 years before the birth of Christ. The people living at that time had become disillusioned with certain beliefs of Hinduism including the caste system, which had grown extremely complex. The number of outcasts (those who did not belong to any particular caste) was continuing to grow."
      "However, in Buddhism, like so many other religions, fanciful stories arose concerning events in the life of the founder, Siddhartha Gautama (fifth century B.C.):"

      Archaeological discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart from the legends we know very little about the circu-mstances of his life. e.g. Buddha by one legend was supposedly talking when he came out of his mother's womb.

      Bottom line: There are many good ways of living but be aware of the hallucinations, embellishments, lies, and myths surrounding the founders and foundations of said rules of life.

      Then, apply the Five F rule: "First Find the Flaws, then Fix the Foundations". And finally there will be religious peace and religious awareness in the world!!!!!

      January 19, 2011 at 12:10 am |
  4. Dikran

    I am glad he was sentenced to death and hope the others responsible will also be sentenced to death.

    Christians need to stand up for our rights and for our brothers and sisters everywhere.

    January 18, 2011 at 6:22 am |
    • Steve the real one

      As I posted earlier, the Word of God gives governments the authority to take the lives of the guilty!

      January 18, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Steve, the real one

      Interesting, as a lot of the Muslim world believes that they get the very same right to do so from Allah. You seem to share this kind of world-view in common.

      Peace...

      January 19, 2011 at 2:08 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Dikran

      Apparently... the Governor of Alabama would agree with you on the 'brothers and sisters' in Christ thing. (See article).

      Peace...

      January 19, 2011 at 4:15 am |
  5. Steve (the real one)

    Good night T-party! Chat with you soon! No problem about the double post.

    January 17, 2011 at 11:40 pm |
  6. t party

    sorry for the double post ...good nite Steve(the real one)

    January 17, 2011 at 11:32 pm |
  7. t party

    @ Steve (the real one) you are very correct sir. I can not disprove you're or anyone else's faith. As an educated scientist I can make my own conclusions about earth and mans beginnings. ie,erosion escarpments,animal fossils,fossil fuels,continental drift,ice age strata,Pangea puzzle,natural selection and of course evolution theories. I can not by any means prove the men who flew the planes into the towers and pentagon are not with their virgins in paradise as I type.

    January 17, 2011 at 11:24 pm |
  8. t party

    @ Steve (the real one) , You are correct sir. Faith is faith. As an agnostic I can not disprove any one's religion. As an educated scientist I can make my own conclusions about all religions ie,erosion escarpments,animal fossils,fossil fuels,Pangea puzzle,mid oceanic ridges,natural selection,evolution theories ect. I do admit all the science in the world can not prove that the men who flew the airplanes into the twin towers,pentagon and in Pa. are not with their virgins right now.

    January 17, 2011 at 11:19 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Well Sir, we may not agree but I always respect a civil discussion! As a Christian I believe what I believe! Have a great night! BTW unrepentant murders and Heaven? Not according to the Word of God!

      January 17, 2011 at 11:26 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Steve, the real one

      You may be right. I'll have to check my handy-dandy Qur'an and see if these bas-tards were allowed into Paradise by Allah, or not.

      I'm guessing...not.

      Peace...

      January 17, 2011 at 11:46 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      @ Peace2all,

      I don't have a copy of the Qu'ran but unless they quickly confessed Christ, I don't believe they are in heaven either, God alone knows! !

      January 18, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Steve(the real one)

      Well, at least you used the words..."I don't (believe) they are in heaven either."

      This tells me that you, at the very least, recognized that your 'beliefs' are not necessarily *absolute facts.* With that said, I love having civil conversations with 'believers' from that stand point.

      Peace...

      January 18, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      @ Peace. I used those words because repentence may have been available to those guys! I cannot judge that! I can say that if they did not confess Christ, the Bible is clear on their eternal destiny! That my friend is fact!

      January 18, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Steve the real one

      You Said: "I can say that if they did not confess Christ, the Bible is clear on their eternal destiny! That my friend is fact!"

      The Bible may make it clear, even though many people interpret it differently.

      However, my point is... whether or not the Bible says it is so, yet again, that still 'does not,' mean that in the real world of...*absolute reality* that it is *fact.*

      You, -Steve do not *know* that. You may 'believe' very strongly, but there is a big difference from having a 'belief' to *absolute knowing.*

      Peace...

      January 18, 2011 at 11:20 pm |
  9. t party

    @ Steve the fake one....bible just a religious written thousands of years ago by men....no proof any higher power involved none whatsoever. all your posts are based on faith. You are certainly welcome to have your faith...please do not argue faith and science...

    January 17, 2011 at 10:56 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      If I cannot argue faith then you cannot argue against it! Written thousands of years ago by men UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT (the true author). Keep in mind YOU cannot argue against faith! Those are the rules, right?

      January 17, 2011 at 11:08 pm |
    • Reality

      origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

      "New Torah For Modern Minds

      Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions - the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years - have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity - until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine doc-ument. "

      January 18, 2011 at 8:11 am |
  10. Muneef

    A man of a live conscience is in the straight path of righteous and the straight path of righteous is the path of men of God who love and fear their God most in every decision or action or words been said and committed ....!!
    Man of God and God fearing is what is counted for a man to represent a mixed culture and beliefs nation for which he has to be aware of those cultures and beliefs of those other nations in order to be able to plant respects to become between those mixed cultures and beliefs as such gives the assurance of mutual understanding between the nation with other overseas nations or even with those within the country of mixed cultures and beliefs...!
    Some how it's felt that values,morals,virtues are not there in a secular world only faceless solid lifeless laws of men rather than what has been relayed by Holy books that calls for good deeds and reject bad deeds and to build a faithful societies,communities,nations since communications among nations or even among the nations of mixed cultures and beliefs... Laws or God and universe are to be prepared by some thing that is equivalent to UN but built on nations beliefs to achieve the code of understanding among nations but as can see now it is build on groundless bases if not of words of God to faiths...in addition to those non spiritual secular beliefs to make decisions of faith but at the moment the secular world make and take the decisions while the beliefs and faiths has to pay for it when it becomes a war between all faiths or religions outside your world ,it would become back into your inside among the mixed culture and beliefs of the nation or nations under one country flag...!
    Today's world man has become with no value other than his organs if sold or stolen....so what is happening only proves that we are imposing marketing the wrongs against the rights....cultures and beliefs are going down the drain with all those values, morals,virtues some how turning into commotion among cultures and beliefs turning against each other misunderstanding each other or unaware of cultures way of living and beliefs to ease communication mutual understanding as a nation of mankind and a nation of faiths. As i believe we should not bleach wash cultures and faiths in to one but am with keeping all cultures and faiths which make a colorful painting rather than one blank single colored...!?
    Wa Salam,Peace,Shalom...  

    January 17, 2011 at 6:31 pm |
    • Reality

      And Muneef continues to rewrite passages from the koran only to make them yet again more drivel.

      January 18, 2011 at 12:21 am |
  11. Reality

    And the solution?

    Recognizing the flaws, follies and frauds in the foundations of Islam, Judaism and Christianity by the "bowers", kneelers" and "pew peasants" will quickly converge these religions into some simple rules of life. No koran, bible, clerics, nuns, monks, imams, evangelicals, ayatollahs, rabbis, professors of religion or priests needed or desired. Ditto for houses and classes of "worthless worship" aka mosques, churches, basilicas, cathedrals, temples and synagogues.

    John Hick, a noted British philosopher of religion, estimates that 95 percent of the people of the world owe their religious affiliation to an accident of birth. The faith of the vast majority of believers depends upon where they were born and when. Those born in Saudi Arabia will almost certainly be Moslems, and those born and raised in India will for the most part be Hindus. Nevertheless, the religion of millions of people can sometimes change abruptly in the face of major political and social upheavals. In the middle of the sixth century ce, virtually all the people of the Near East and Northern Africa, including Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Egypt were Christian. By the end of the following century, the people in these lands were largely Moslem, as a result of the militant spread of Islam.

    The Situation Today

    Barring military conquest, conversion to a faith other than that of one’s birth is rare. Some Jews, Moslems, and Hindus do convert to Christianity, but not often. Similarly, it is not common for Christians to become Moslems or Jews. Most people are satisfied that their own faith is the true one or at least good enough to satisfy their religious and emotional needs. Had St. Augustine or St. Thomas Aquinas been born in Mecca at the start of the present century, the chances are that they would not have been Christians but loyal followers of the prophet Mohammed

    It is very disturbing that such religious violence and hatred continues unabated due to radomness of birth. Maybe just maybe if this fact would be published on the first page of every newspaper every day, that we would finally realize the significant stupidity of all religions.

    January 17, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
  12. myklds

    Another case of MASSACRE by an UNBELIEVER!

    It's terrible to know people killing people who believed what they don't believe.

    January 17, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @mykids

      He 'is' a 'believer,'... just not a Christian believer. He is a Muslim.

      Peace...

      January 17, 2011 at 9:01 pm |
    • t party

      @ mykids and ditto to Peace ..this man is certainly a believer. religion kills ......do not need any religious text to realize murd-er,stealing,cheating, lying are horrible things. great answer Peace...

      January 17, 2011 at 10:33 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      @T-party,

      You are correct that religion kills. A relationship with God through Christ Jesus, on the other hand gives life!

      January 17, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
    • NL

      Steve (the real one)-
      Please illustrate exactly how "A relationship with God through Christ Jesus" is not religious in nature?

      January 17, 2011 at 11:46 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      NL

      Steve (the real one)-
      Please illustrate exactly how "A relationship with God through Christ Jesus" is not religious in nature?
      ----------
      My pleasure! The basic tenet of religion is to reach out to a god in the attempt to please him! The key is man reaching out to a god. In Christianity, God reached out to us by sending His son, Jesus Christ. It was God who initiated the contact! In religion it is man who attempts to establish contact. The key is who initiates contact. Inaddition Christianit established a relationship with God as family. God now is my father and I am his child (through Christ). In religion there is no such relationship. Sadly some can turn Christianity into a religion by ignoring the relationship aspect. That(in a nutshell) is the difference

      January 18, 2011 at 12:38 pm |
  13. Kate

    Christ teaches forgiveness and the value of life. Christ teaches mercy. As a christian, perhaps prison would be appriate but death is never justice. We pray the victoms familys and the muslim and christian community can recover from this tragedy.

    January 17, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Kate, The Bible disagrees with you!\

      From Romans 13 (The context is human governments).

      1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God : the powers that be are ordained of God.
      2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
      3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
      4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid ; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

      FOR HE BEARETH NOT THE SWORD IN VAIN.......

      January 17, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Kate

      You Said: "As a christian, perhaps prison would be appropriate but death is never justice."

      ..."perhaps prison"...? I'm thinking that the removal of someone from society that has murdered someone is unequivocally, at a minimum a must...so they do no more harm, at the very least to others in free society.

      You Said: "We pray the victims families and the muslim and christian communities can recover from this tragedy."

      I do hope for that outcome as well.

      Peace...

      January 17, 2011 at 9:08 pm |
  14. Brenda Winters

    Violence has never solved one thing.Man kind's selfishness causes too many problems in this World. Humans are the only species of life that murders for pleasure. Prejudice is never justified. All have the right to worship G-d as they wish without harming others.

    January 17, 2011 at 11:49 am |
    • Steve (the real one)

      What exactly is a G-d? I know God but not G-d!

      January 17, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
    • listenclose

      He's not getting death penalty for killing Christians didn't you read he killed one muslim guard. Muslims don't value Christians lives on that side of the planet.

      January 18, 2011 at 7:28 am |
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