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My Take: The Bible really does condemn homosexuality
March 3rd, 2011
01:25 PM ET

My Take: The Bible really does condemn homosexuality

By Robert A. J. Gagnon, Special to CNN

Editor’s Note: Robert A. J. Gagnon, Ph.D., is associate professor of New Testament at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary and author of The Bible and Homosexual Practice: Texts and Hermeneutics and (with Dan Via) Homosexuality and the Bible: Two Views.

In her recent CNN Belief Blog post “The Bible’s surprisingly mixed messages on sexuality,” Jennifer Wright Knust claims that Christians can’t appeal to the Bible to justify opposition to homosexual practice because the Bible provides no clear witness on the subject and is too flawed to serve as a moral guide.

As a scholar who has written books and articles on the Bible and homosexual practice, I can say that the reality is the opposite of her claim. It’s shocking that in her editorial and even her book, "Unprotected Texts," Knust ignores a mountain of evidence against her positions.

It raises a serious question: does the Left read significant works that disagree with pro-gay interpretations of Scripture and choose to simply ignore them?

Owing to space limitations I will focus on her two key arguments: the ideal of gender-neutral humanity and slavery arguments.

Knust's lead argument is that sexual differentiation in Genesis, Jesus and Paul is nothing more than an "afterthought" because "God's original intention for humanity was androgyny."

It’s true that Genesis presents the first human (Hebrew adam, from adamah, ground: “earthling”) as originally sexually undifferentiated. But what Knust misses is that once something is “taken from” the human to form a woman, the human, now differentiated as a man, finds his sexual other half in that missing element, a woman.

That’s why Genesis speaks of the woman as a “counterpart” or “complement,” using a Hebrew expression neged, which means both “corresponding to” and “opposite.” She is similar as regards humanity but different in terms of gender. If sexual relations are to be had, they are to be had with a sexual counterpart or complement.

Knust cites the apostle Paul’s remark about “no ‘male and female’” in Galatians. Yet Paul applies this dictum to establishing the equal worth of men and women before God, not to eliminating a male-female prerequisite for sex.

Applied to sexual relations, the phrase means “no sex,” not “acceptance of homosexual practice,” as is evident both from the consensus of the earliest interpreters of this phrase and from Jesus' own sayings about marriage in this age and the next.

All the earliest interpreters agreed that "no 'male and female,'" applied to sexual relations, meant "no sex."

That included Paul and the ascetic believers at Corinth in the mid-first century; and the church fathers and gnostics of the second to fourth centuries. Where they disagreed is over whether to postpone mandatory celibacy until the resurrection (the orthodox view) or to begin insisting on it now (the heretical view).

Jesus’ view

According to Jesus, “when (people) rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels” (Mark 12:25). Sexual relations and differentiation had only penultimate significance. The unmediated access to God that resurrection bodies bring would make sex look dull by comparison.

At the same time Jesus regarded the male-female paradigm as essential if sexual relations were to be had in this present age.

In rejecting a revolving door of divorce-and-remarriage and, implicitly, polygamy Jesus cited Genesis: “From the beginning of creation, ‘male and female he made them.’ ‘For this reason a man …will be joined to his woman and the two shall become one flesh’” (Mark 10:2-12; Matthew 19:3-12).

Jesus’ point was that God’s limiting of persons in a sexual union to two is evident in his creation of two (and only two) primary sexes: male and female, man and woman. The union of male and female completes the sexual spectrum, rendering a third partner both unnecessary and undesirable.

The sectarian Jewish group known as the Essenes similarly rejected polygamy on the grounds that God made us “male and female,” two sexual complements designed for a union consisting only of two.

Knust insinuates that Jesus wouldn’t have opposed homosexual relationships. Yet Jesus’ interpretation of Genesis demonstrates that he regarded a male-female prerequisite for marriage as the foundation on which other sexual standards could be predicated, including monogamy. Obviously the foundation is more important than anything predicated on it.

Jesus developed a principle of interpretation that Knust ignores: God’s “from the beginning” creation of “male and female” trumps some sexual behaviors permitted in the Old Testament. So there’s nothing unorthodox about recognizing change in Scripture’s sexual ethics. But note the direction of the change: toward less sexual license and greater conformity to the logic of the male-female requirement in Genesis. Knust is traveling in the opposite direction.

Knust’s slavery analogy and avoidance of closer analogies

Knust argues that an appeal to the Bible for opposing homosexual practice is as morally unjustifiable as pre-Civil War appeals to the Bible for supporting slavery. The analogy is a bad one.

The best analogy will be the comparison that shares the most points of substantive correspondence with the item being compared. How much does the Bible’s treatment of slavery resemble its treatment of homosexual practice? Very little.

Scripture shows no vested interest in preserving the institution of slavery but it does show a strong vested interest from Genesis to Revelation in preserving a male-female prerequisite. Unlike its treatment of the institution of slavery, Scripture treats a male-female prerequisite for sex as a pre-Fall structure.

The Bible accommodates to social systems where sometimes the only alternative to starvation is enslavement. But it clearly shows a critical edge by specifying mandatory release dates and the right of kinship buyback; requiring that Israelites not be treated as slaves; and reminding Israelites that God had redeemed them from slavery in Egypt.

Paul urged enslaved believers to use an opportunity for freedom to maximize service to God and encouraged a Christian master (Philemon) to free his slave (Onesimus).

How can changing up on the Bible’s male-female prerequisite for sex be analogous to the church’s revision of the slavery issue if the Bible encourages critique of slavery but discourages critique of a male-female paradigm for sex?

Much closer analogies to the Bible’s rejection of homosexual practice are the Bible’s rejection of incest and the New Testament’s rejection of polyamory (polygamy).

Homosexual practice, incest, and polyamory are all (1) forms of sexual behavior (2) able to be conducted as adult-committed relationships but (3) strongly proscribed because (4) they violate creation structures or natural law.

Like same-sex intercourse, incest is sex between persons too much structurally alike, here as regards kinship rather than gender. Polyamory is a violation of the foundational “twoness” of the sexes.

The fact that Knust chooses a distant analogue (slavery) over more proximate analogues (incest, polyamory) shows that her analogical reasoning is driven more by ideological biases than by fair use of analogies.

Knust’s other arguments are riddled with holes.

In claiming that David and Jonathan had a homosexual relationship she confuses kinship affection with erotic love. Her claim that “from the perspective of the New Testament” the Sodom story was about “the near rape of angels, not sex between men” makes an "either-or" out of Jude 7’s "both-and."

Her canard that only a few Bible texts reject homosexual practice overlooks other relevant texts and the fact that infrequent mention is often a sign of significance. It is disturbing to read what passes nowadays for expert “liberal” reflections on what the Bible says about homosexual practice.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Robert A. J. Gagnon.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Homosexuality

soundoff (4,272 Responses)
  1. Ken

    Total Tripe......This guy is a waste of good oxygen.
    Live and let Live

    March 4, 2011 at 10:04 am |
    • MsLearning

      I think this was an excellent story and I enjoyed it. No-one is a waste of oxygen.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:20 am |
    • Bob Wallace

      Thanks for an inciteful article. The doctor knows when he has hit a sore spot when the patient yells ouch! The fact that there are so many negative responses is assuring that you have hit the right spot. God bless you and yous. bjw

      March 4, 2011 at 10:44 am |
    • SeanNJ

      @Bob Wallace: I have no idea if you meant to write "insightful" instead of "inciteful," but it speaks volumes in this context. Huge, leather-bound volumes.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:46 am |
    • Zebula

      Agreed. I cannot believe an "educated" man would argue anything using "evidence" from the Bible. It's the 21st Century for crying out loud. This is total ignorance.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • SSharkey

      Doesn't it seem a bit backward that you are calling Mr. Gagnon a 'waste of oxygen' but at the same time saying 'live and let live'? I am amazed that the intolerance of those who claim to be so tolerant. The truth is that everyone wants to say they are tolerant, when in reality they are tolerant of the things they believe, but not the things that cramp their style.
      Jesus was the ultimate incarnation of the phrase 'live and let live' but he didn't accomplish that by ignoring people's shortfalls, he accomplished that by loving and accepting people despite their wickedness. I'd much rather have a Jesus who calls me a sinner but loves me without fail, then an Jesus who says I'm a good person, but backs off when I inevitably screw up.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:55 am |
    • Peggy

      Agreed, just look at him?! Honestly who cares what some book written 2000 years says anyway! It also condones stoning children to death?! It's laughable in this day & age that people still live their lives by this outdated, convoluted book of fables & fairy tales!

      March 4, 2011 at 10:59 am |
  2. Michael

    Super natural power of God? Please! Come on religous folks. Enjoy the reality of life and death and live your life as creatures of this planet. Nothing more nothing less. it's your own divine egos that allow you to believe that you will go on forever especially as a believer. After all what's the point of living right if you are not given the blessing of eternity.

    March 4, 2011 at 10:02 am |
    • i believe

      and if there is eternity at least you have fun in your earlier life, right?

      March 4, 2011 at 10:09 am |
    • NL

      Maybe it's the fear of death, and the greedy promise of wanting to live forever that clouds so many people's better judgment? You know what they say? You can't cheat an honest man. How honest is it to want to cheat death?

      March 4, 2011 at 10:10 am |
    • i believe

      im sure you"ll be saying this very same thing. and im sure you live off the land now, not taking advantage of what life has to offer. would that make you greedy?

      March 4, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    • NL

      i believe-
      Exactly!
      Think of it as a more altruistic version of Pascal's Wager. Live life to the fullest as though there is no heaven. Do your best not to cause any harm but, more importantly, try your best to make amends if you do. That way, when you do die, you'll live on in people's memories, and if there happens to be a heavenly reward for good behavior, bonus! If the 'born agains' do happen to be right, and their god sends you to hell just because you didn't believe in him enough to picket a military funeral or against gay weddings, then at least you can hold your head up high in the knowledge that you didn't kowtow to a tyrant.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:22 am |
    • HeavenSent

      John 17:17.

      Amen.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:36 am |
    • Mao

      Reminds me of my grandpa. he lived it up. Died of lung cancer from smoking too much and fearful of "going into the darkness".
      It's easy to talk stuff when you don't have to deal with it at that moment.
      People are like tea bags. You find out what they're made of when you put them in hot water.

      March 4, 2011 at 11:59 am |
    • NL

      HeavenSent
      John 17:17
      "Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth."
      His word, maybe, but YOUR word? Do you assume that the two are the same?

      March 4, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
  3. Chris

    The bible, The Koran, The Torah are all derived from the middle east. I am tired of this place and it's religious evolutions that have crippled man ever since; We could have been better, but that is my opinion as a History major and a HIspanic American who had my people erased of their culture and mix sometimes with the white Spaniards beginning in 1492. This country is changing and the world is changing; I'm taking a course on Asian, but Chinese teachings and the origins of Buddhism, but how they were taken and applied to Chinese culture and it is absolutely AMAZING. I'm ridding myself of these christian-Jew-Muslim religions and am considering the wisdom teachings of Confucius and Buddhism. Good luck to you all, but it is yourself that you need to look at and strive at first, cause by knowing thyself, you will know others and many other things. Good luck world and future civilizations.

    March 4, 2011 at 10:00 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Chris, look up instead of tripping over your lip.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:33 am |
  4. Chris

    The bible, The Koran, The Torah are all derived from the middle east. I am tired of this place and it's religious evolutions that have crippled man ever since; We could have been better, but that is my opinion as a History major and a HIspanic American who had my people erased of their culture and mix sometimes with the white Spaniards beginning in 1492. This country is changing and the world is changing; I'm taking a course on Asian, but Chinese teachings and the origins of Buddhism, but how they were taken and applied to Chinese culture and it is absolutely AMAZING. I'm ridding myself of these christian-jew-muslim religions and am considering the wisdom teachings of Confucius and Buddhism. Good luck to you all, but it is yourself that you need to look at and strive at first, cause by knowing thyself, you will know others and many other things.

    March 4, 2011 at 9:59 am |
    • HeavenSent

      The only ones left in the darkness are those that refuse to read His truth, comprehend what is written so they can abide in His wisdom which brings them into His Light.

      You are blind, blind, blind for those that only follow the ways of man. Man is made from dust, and dust shall he go. Dust to Dust. Only God stands for eternity. I AM, Alpha and Omega. The beginning and the end.

      What part of His truth do you not understand? All of it? Because you've never bothered to read, comprehend and abide in His wisdom.

      L A Z Y. You own it.

      Amen.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:26 am |
  5. PaulMc

    Mr. Gagnon, you make some good points, and your rebuttal appears well-reasoned. But using the Bible to prescribe "appropriate" behavior in modern times is valid only to the extent that people unconditionally accept the Bible as infallible. Many people, including myself, do not.

    March 4, 2011 at 9:57 am |
  6. derp

    Bigfoot sent his only cub, Largerthanaveragefoot, to earth to die for our sins. Because of Largerthanaveragefoot, son of Bigfoot, we are saved from an eternity of freezing our butts off in hell along with the master of all that is evil, the abominable snowman.

    The snowman used to be in Atlantis right alongside Bigfoot, but he was tempted by the forbidden twinkie. Unfortunately he could not resist the forbidden twinkie which is a clear violation of the Sasquatch Code. Once he scarfed it up, he was banished to the frozen tundra of hell for all eternity.

    Bummer for him, he should have had some carrots.

    You must obey the "Sasquatch Code", or you risk freezing in hell for all eternity with a big fat smelly white hairy snow beast.

    March 4, 2011 at 9:56 am |
    • NL

      Yes, have you accepted Largerthanaveragefoot as your personal savior,... Yeti? 😉

      March 4, 2011 at 10:26 am |
  7. Face

    Why is it that Heaven send a tard can only bash others, and refer to the bible and everyone else's sins, while refusing to justify anything he's said OUTSIDE THE BIBLE?!

    Oh that's right, he KNOW'S he's following the ONE TRUE way to "God" and all others can't see past "the vipers" or deception!
    Man, let's all follow the one guy who just simply states he's right and NOT under the wrong impression or interpretation of ONE of thousands of religions!!

    C:/user/HeavenSent>Runlogic_
    Error:_logicalcapacitytoosmall/logic/add_more>
    C:/Run_ Amen

    March 4, 2011 at 9:42 am |
    • HeavenSent

      I do believe I've posted Jesus truth when writing on this blog. It's not my beliefs but His truth that I write. If you want me to put all scriptures next to any word I use ... I'll do this, but I'm sure, you wouldn't believe it if I did.

      And you? What words of man do you use to make you believe you to be wise?

      March 4, 2011 at 10:20 am |
    • NL

      HeavenSent-
      You 'believe' that what you're posting is Jesus' truth, but that's only your own, personal feeling right?

      March 4, 2011 at 10:31 am |
  8. B

    Bottom Line though is, I don't care what your bible book thing says. Discussions of what That book says should be held in your church. So your book says don't be gay. OK, so for YOU, don't be gay. I don't give a rat's butt what you or your book has to say, because I don't belong to your mythology club. So leave me alone. I don't like what you stand for, you don't like the way I lead my life.

    What we need to be fighting for is not for the right to get married, but against all tax codes and laws that treat any married person differently than a single person. Even if gay people were allowed to get married, it would still not be fair to single people, both gay and straight, that their rights and taxations are different.

    March 4, 2011 at 9:41 am |
    • Thomas

      Mythology Club....... PERFECT!

      March 4, 2011 at 10:03 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Says a Blind Mouse of men, who's eyes can't see and ears don't hear.

      You've obviously never read John 17:17, when Jesus said: Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

      Non-believers back in the days Jesus walked the earth ... knew you as vipers, walking in darkness of satan, never coming into His light. It was the non- believers that insisted that men rule over men. Then you wonder why we have money changers today, leaders of those that come from men of this world. God was our ruler, but you non-believers got what you wanted and put mortal men (meaning women too) to rule over you (all of us), and now you complain?

      March 4, 2011 at 10:15 am |
  9. Patriot

    thank god the US isn't a Christian theocracy

    March 4, 2011 at 9:40 am |
  10. Ben Dover

    Who CARES. "god" and "jesus" were myths created to dupe and steal from people.

    March 4, 2011 at 9:39 am |
    • HeavenSent

      It's obvious that you are blind to His truth for you have no eyes to see, nor ears to hear.

      Read:

      Matthew 7:15-20
      Matthew 24:11,23-26,
      Mark 13:22).
      2 Peter 3:16
      2 Corinthians 4:2
      2 Peter 2:2-3
      2 Timothy 2:15
      Ephesians 4:11-15
      Colossians 2:8

      for all those that twist and contort His truth, along with false teachers of His word.

      For ...John 17:17, Jesus said: Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

      Amen.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:08 am |
  11. lokii

    Another narrow minded author. If you don't believe, I don't care. If you don't believe, you shouldn't even have an opinion on this article as it does not concern you. If you do believe, you should try to change your opinions and actions to fit what the bible teaches and not vice versa. If you want to be considered part of the flock and spit on its teachings at the same time; you are insincere in your beliefs and your faith is insincere.

    March 4, 2011 at 9:38 am |
  12. 1sad1

    The slave analogy is appropriate as an analogy concerning the role of religion, as distinguished from faith, with respect to the justification utilzed by some to "act" on their strongly held beliefs. The Bible, as a general rule, only records The Chist being outraged or acting when the individual's ability to commune with God was interfered with. Hence the juxtaposition of the slave analogy with that of John 2:15 and the money changers.
    My issue with the commentator is not on his scholarship regarding the issue, rather, it is the absence of a clear, express, admonition to all Christians to follow the two greatest commandments – irrespective of their post-modern philosophical version of 'discernment,' that an individual, however well read, has a corner on the theological outcome regarding God's judgment.

    March 4, 2011 at 9:31 am |
  13. Zenman

    The Bible says a bacon cheeseburger is an "abomination of desolation." How seriously are Christians taking that message?

    March 4, 2011 at 9:29 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Bacon is pig/swines that are scavengers to clean the garbage of the earth.

      I'm sure those who raise pigs today don't feed them garbage. Find out what farmers feed their pigs. I'm sure it's the same as what they feed veal which isn't garbage. Pigs are raised in a clean environment today for man's consuption, not scavenging the earths garbage to fend for themselves.

      Get a grip in how to read the Bible. Pigs have no sweat glands to rid themselves of garbage they eat if left to themselves in the wild. Therefore, everything they eat resides in their fat. I'm sure the pig farmers today don't feed pigs anything but the best for human consumption because they know Jesus truth.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:03 am |
    • Robby

      huh? I did a search and I cannot find the word cheeseburger in the Bible. Have you ever actually read it?

      March 4, 2011 at 10:15 am |
    • NL

      Robby-
      Kosher Law. Applies to pepperoni and cheese pizza too, and then there's the prohibitions against eating shellfish, so that means that the folks in Maine and Louisiana are likely damned. Disease-wise, pork and shellfish can be dicey eating. If the Torah were to be written today they'd likely warn against eating peanuts, ... Just in case. I seem to remember that a certain cult enjoyed cooking goat kids in their mother's milk. So, this equates to a Protestant not eating Irish Stew because you might be tempted into becoming a Catholic.

      Jesus surely would have remained kosher throughout his life.

      March 4, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
  14. CrazyEd

    The Bible also condemns eating shrimp and pork.

    March 4, 2011 at 9:25 am |
  15. clint sanders

    Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

    If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

    If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)

    Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)

    This shows you that it really is scary that people want to make the B

    Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)

    Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)

    Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)

    Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) Have you ever done that?

    If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10). I wonder if Dr. Laura would like that one to be enforced?

    If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death. (Leviticus 20:11)

    If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death. (Leviticus 20:14)

    March 4, 2011 at 9:23 am |
    • Jane

      That Christian god sure is a needy fellow. He seems to have all the failings of a mortal and rather high maintenance. No wonder all the different sects seem so miserable and fight all the time. I'll stick to just thinking we are here just because and try to live a decent life because that's just what seems right. Not because I'm afraid of the afterlife or this needy god of yours.

      March 4, 2011 at 9:39 am |
    • HeavenSent

      You need to read what Jesus says about those that twist and contort His truth to fit the ways of man. This goes for false teachers of His word, which includes those like you.

      Matthew 7:15-20
      Matthew 24:11,23-26,
      Mark 13:22).
      2 Peter 3:16
      2 Corinthians 4:2
      2 Peter 2:2-3
      2 Timothy 2:15
      Ephesians 4:11-15
      Colossians 2:8
      John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

      March 4, 2011 at 9:53 am |
  16. David

    I am happy that we finally had a rebuttle to Knust's ridiculous article. Thanks for taking the time to write this and to CNN for posting it.

    March 4, 2011 at 9:16 am |
  17. Joe

    The bible is a work of FICTION! How can you tell people how to behave based on FICTION?? You are abusing your freedom of speech.

    March 4, 2011 at 9:13 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

      John 17:17

      Jesus' truth FREES all.

      March 4, 2011 at 9:47 am |
    • NL

      What did Jesus himself ever say regarding gays? Not Paul, or any of the others who contributed to the New Testament, but Jesus himself, hmm... ?

      March 4, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
  18. Jim

    Do not think your decisions will be made for you.
    All the rules of the world have been laid out for you
    Obey
    Do not question
    Reject,deny,rebel and you will be tortured for all eternity

    March 4, 2011 at 9:12 am |
    • Jane

      NO!

      March 4, 2011 at 9:31 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Jesus' truth is the bread of life. He's the living water ... to bring your spirits alive while on earth in human flesh. Learn His truth, comprehend what He teaches and abide in His truth and you live, spiritually come alive while living in the Flesh on earth. Then when we leave this world (our flesh dies) our soul's go back to God, who created us and our spirits dwell with Him for eternity. Abiding in Jesus' truth is sewing your clothe of righteousness. Not abiding in Jesus' truth while living in the flesh on earth ... and when you leave this world and go back to Him, who created us, you walk around butt naked because you didn't sew your cloth of righteousness while living in the flesh.

      Life is a test from God. It's our 2nd chance to love and follow Him. Don't listen to His truth (the Bible) and you have the other chance, being loving and following satan (the LIE) ... to the eternal flames ... then PUFF, you will be erased for eternity.

      2 Choices of free will.

      Choose wisely.

      March 4, 2011 at 9:35 am |
    • Kay

      What a sad and scary philosophy! Humans were given brains so that they COULD question, learn, evolve, analyze, and look at different ideas in their search for the Truth. The God of Love would not torture any sentient being for eternity because they use their God- given brain or any reason.! A literal hell is a concept made up by religious fanatics who want to control others and SCARE them into submission. God is a spirit of love, beauty, truth, freedom, wisdom and all that is Good. Seek these things and do not let fear or ignorance hold you back from seeking Love and Truth. Do not be afraid or let someone box God into some particular sect or denomination or religion. God is above all of that and being of Love loves all his creations. If anyone tells you that they have all the answers or that a book has all the answers, don't believe it. We need to evolve spiritually, not be stuck in the rut of a particular religious dogma that may have "some" truth, but certainly not all of it.

      March 4, 2011 at 9:39 am |
  19. Dr Matrix

    Why use the Bible? It has been translated many times into a language that these 2 can read, so how many things changed during each translation? We know that happens. Add to that the Councils of Nicea where the earlier texts were edited and even removed in order to make it fit the version of Christianity that the catholic church decided was right and would keep the masses in line and contributing. I have yet to hear any true authority give me reason to believe the the Bible is it facrt the ultimate authority and word of God uncontested by any other religion. What would these people do if God twittered that Sidartha was the only true enlighted one? Where would that leave their beliefs?

    March 4, 2011 at 9:12 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Even the 3 Stooges tried to teach you about God.

      If you don't pay attention to God's truth, "you try to think but nothing worked"... Moe Curly from the Stooges.

      March 4, 2011 at 9:26 am |
    • Vince

      Bringing up multiple bible versons as a reason not to believe the Bible only gives credence to the Bible itself. Satan has a subsitute for everything God does. The Bible says there will be a "great falling away" (2 Th 2:2). Its a falling away from the truth. I saw the word "logic" used above. Isn't is logical that if God has an enemy, that this enemy would do anything to polute the truth and keep it from getting out? Isn't that going on in politics and media right now...poluting truth as a way promoting ideology? You see the House and the Senate fussing within all the time. There is a truth in there somewhere, but it can't get out because of all the voices of untruth drowing it out. Its the same with all the bible versions. But God promised to preserve His Word forever and he has done that through the King James version.

      March 4, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
  20. Curt

    Great Article. Very well put. You know it's a good article when the left starts crying. It's amazing how the left preaches tolerance only for the things they agree with. The minute you disagree with them, you are intolerant. 🙂

    March 4, 2011 at 9:06 am |
    • Michael Wong

      You're absolutely right. We should be far less tolerant of things like idiotic Bronze Age mythologies and the stupid people who still believe that they should be taken as literal fact.

      March 4, 2011 at 9:14 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Jesus teachings are righteous. Meaning what is good for the person as well as all people. Versus, what is unrighteous, when left to men and women without Jesus' teachings. Unrighteous means, what is good for the person and who cares what happens to any other person involved.

      Oh, boo hoo, for those that don't comprehend Jesus' spiritual teachings that feed our souls to be the Best that He wants us to be.

      Good behavior, versus bad behavior for those that don't know Him.

      Amen.

      March 4, 2011 at 9:23 am |
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