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My Take: Muslim hearings a recruiting bonanza for Islamic extremists
Rep. Peter King is holding hearings on what he describes as the radicalization of Muslims in the United States.
March 9th, 2011
04:31 PM ET

My Take: Muslim hearings a recruiting bonanza for Islamic extremists

Editor's Note: Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "God is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions that Run the World," is a regular CNN Belief Blog contributor.

By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN

There are all sorts of reasons to oppose Rep. Peter King’s hearings Thursday on “the radicalization of Islam in America,” but the most powerful one is the fact that they are more likely to foment radicalization than undercut it.

The civil libertarian argument — something Republicans like King used to care about — is, of course, compelling. Imagine that these hearings were on “the radicalization of Judaism in America” and that they were following on efforts to stonewall a proposed Jewish community center in Lower Manhattan by a group calling itself “Stop Judaization of America.” All Americans of good will would rightly be up in arms.

The establishment clause argument against these hearings is equally compelling. As I wrote earlier, the hearings “should be either canceled or reworked to avoid the appearance that the U.S. Congress — whose members are 90 percent Christian — is using its power, contrary to clear meaning of the establishment clause of the First Amendment, to promote Christianity at the expense of other religions.”

My objection today is more pragmatic. My objection is that these hearings will serve as a recruiting bonanza for terrorists worldwide.

What King does not see from his perch as a congressman from Long Island and its environs is the big picture. And the big picture is that Muslim extremists are engaged in a long war with the West in general and the United States in particular.

The latest chapter in this contest includes the first Gulf War and America’s fateful decision to keep troops in Saudi Arabia near Islamic holy sites in Mecca and Medina — a decision that angered many extremist Muslims and drew more radicals into their ranks. Since that time, we have seen a back-and-forth of American actions and extremist responses, extremist actions and American responses.

President George W. Bush, to his credit, understood this. That is why he worked so hard after 9/11 to explain that we were at war not with Islam but with terrorism. But that legacy seems to be lost on the Republican Party today, and on people like King.

In evaluating the upcoming hearings, we certainly need to be asking questions about the First Amendment and civil liberties. But we also need to be asking pragmatic questions, such as, "What good will come of them? And what evil?" And in this case, the evil is likely to outweigh the good.

To be sure, there are Muslim radicals in the United States, and doubtless some are attempting to recruit in U.S. mosques. There are also Muslim extremists around the world trying to do the same thing. King’s hearings could present roadblocks to American Muslim radicals by improving communications between Muslims and American police and intelligence officials. But isn’t it more likely that these hearings will set back those communications, by making Muslims even more resentful of U.S. government power than they are already?

The real problem with these hearings, however, is that they will likely prove to be yet another recruitment bonanza for Muslim extremists overseas — more proof that the nation that is killing innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan (including nine boys last week in NATO air strikes in Afghanistan) is out to embarrass and humiliate Muslims in the United States.

King says his intent in holding these hearings is to counteract the radicalization of Islam in America. I respectfully disagree. I think he is holding these hearings in order to pander to the worst elements in the American psyche, and in his party. These elements have always been with us, and they typically surface in times of war and economic distress. But as history has repeatedly demonstrated, the costs of pandering to them is high.

We need to work to undercut Muslim extremism in the United States. But we need the cooperation of Muslims in that effort, and we need to avoid stirring up more anti-American sentiment among Muslims worldwide in the process.

The way forward is to continue to work in private to foster better communications between U.S. Muslims and law enforcement and intelligence officials. Public hearings such as these may help King shore up his political base, but they will do nothing to shore up national security.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.

- CNN Belief Blog contributor

Filed under: Church and state • Culture wars • Islam • Mosque • Muslim • Opinion • Politics • United States

soundoff (86 Responses)
  1. Brian

    If they move fwd. In Manhattan with the proposed mosque it will be burnt down. Islam is not wanted on U.S. soil.

    September 16, 2011 at 2:14 am |
  2. Iqbal khan

    9-11 was an inside job!
    google Alan sabrosky what he is saying ....and

    Check this if U have Guts!
    Enforcing American Hegemony – A TimelineA compiled timeline and comment on US foreign interventions, covert ops, and maintenance of Western economic and military dominance.
    http://www.flagrancy.net/timeline.html – Cached – Similar

    March 28, 2011 at 11:37 am |
  3. Ben

    These hearings are a total waste of time. Let's just cover a list of possible reasons why so many terrorists are radical Muslims...

    1. The Middle East is mainly populated by Muslims.
    2. The Middle East is technologically and economically far behind the West.
    3. This disparity causes frustration and disappointment amongst the people that live there.
    4. Some very clever and very evil people get the raw end of the deal in the 70s and 80s, and so they use the latent frustration within the population to advance their own twisted agendas.
    5. People of Middle Eastern descent and Muslim heritage tend to associate with other people of that social group.

    So basically, it's really not our fault, but life sucks in a lot of places, and evil people like bin Laden are really good at convincing the people of those areas that we're the reason life sucks. So... why are hearings necessary? Everyone knows that Islam is doing a pretty poor job of keeping people from blowing themselves up to kill other people. No need to make a big news story out of it and make us all look intolerant as well.

    Just call up a bunch of local and regional leaders and let them know that they need to start working with us. Chances are they'll be willing to help.

    March 23, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
  4. Tony

    Ever since the call for prophethood first came to Muhammad, the son of “Abdallah”
    approaching the age of fortieth on the month of Ramadan, it is related the Angel Gabriel came to Muhammad and he slept in solitude on Mount Hira and said, “Recite” what Muslims know as the first four verses of the ninety-sixth chapters of the Muslim scripture, known as the Qur'an. This is the Arabic world which combines the meaning of “Reading” and “Recitation” which flourished in the empty desert, broken by a few scattered oases crossed by a few caravans routes, mostly nomads who supported their livelihood by raising sheep, goats, and camels. Under Islam, Moses was not permitted to enter the promise land, and died while people went forward. Jesus was crucified, and Christianity remained a persecuted minority religion for centuries, until a Roman Emperor. Constantine, embraced the faith and empowered those who upheld it. Two religions, very different genocides.

    Today the Islam religion is questionable, due in part the acts of terrorism against humanity carried on by its members supported by their leaders, the moral question is larger then religion and life and its asinine leaders .

    Tony

    March 20, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
  5. theoldadam

    EVERYTHING is a recruiting bonanza for radical Islam.

    They just are not happy people that others are not wrapped up in that legalistic, religious/political system, and will not rest until everyone is in shackles.

    March 15, 2011 at 1:52 am |
  6. Muneef

    Does not these verses speak of the Ancient Falling Systems and the Recent Past and Present Falling Systems? It warns and remind all of the future that if you fail you fall...and those blows come to believers and unbelievers on turns..it tests believers and destroys disbelievers....How much of that happens through wars and conflicts....How much of that through Natural Disasters....Aren't we seeing that all? Isn't it telling us some thing is wrong of our own wrong doing and disbelief....? Man can reverse ill-faith by reversing intentions in to right doings in deeds,actions and spiritual worship,prayers in peace with soul,pay poor due and charity as a belief and a spiritual meditation for soul to have mercy on earth,afterlife,resurrection and judgment day.....?!? What we got to lose,since we all ride the same as ship in the middle of this universe as a ship in the ocean..and every body wants it his way such a ship will never set to sail but to crash and drawn with the whole lot...!?      

    Al-E-Imran sura 03:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Systems have passed away before you. Do but travel in the land and see the nature of the consequence for those who did deny (the messengers). (137) This is a declaration for mankind, a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil) (138) Faint not nor grieve, for ye will overcome them if ye are (indeed) believers. (139) If ye have received a blow, the (disbelieving) people have received a blow the like thereof. These are (only) the vicissitudes which We cause to follow one another for mankind, to the end that Allah may know those who believe and may choose witnesses from among you; and Allah loveth not wrong-doers. (140) And that Allah may prove those who believe, and may blight the disbelievers. (141).

    March 14, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
  7. Muneef

    Al-Araf sura 07:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    I shall turn away from My revelations those who magnify themselves wrongfully in the earth, and if they see each token believe it not, and if they see the way of righteousness choose it nor for (their) way, and if they see the way of error choose if for (their) way. That is because they deny Our revelations and are used to disregard them. (146) Those who deny Our revelations and the meeting of the Hereafter, their works are fruitless. Are they requited aught save what they used to do? (147).

    Al-Isra sura 17:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    On the day when We shall summon all men with their record, whoso is given his book in his right hand – such will read their book and they will not be wronged a shred. (71) Whoso is blind here will be blind in the Hereafter, and yet further from the road. (72) And they indeed strove hard to beguile thee (Muhammad) away from that wherewith We have inspired thee, that thou shouldst invent other than it against Us; and then would they have accepted thee as a friend. (73) And if We had not made thee wholly firm thou mightest almost have inclined unto them a little. (74).

    Al-Furqan sura 25:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    On the day when the wrong-doer gnaweth his hands, he will say: Ah, would that I had chosen a way together with the messenger (of Allah)! (27) Alas for me! Ah, would that I had never taken such an one for friend! (28) He verily led me astray from the Reminder after it had reached me. Satan was ever man's deserter in the hour of need. (29) And the messenger saith: O my Lord! Lo! mine own folk make this Qur'an of no account. (30) Even so have We appointed unto every prophet an opponent from among the guilty; but Allah sufficeth for a Guide and Helper. (31).

    Al-Muzzammil sura 73:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Lo! This is a Reminder. Let him who will, then, choose a way unto his Lord. (19).

    March 14, 2011 at 7:14 am |
  8. Muneef

    Al-Isra sura 17:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    We verily have displayed (Our warnings) in this Qur'an that they may take heed, but it increaseth them in naught save aversion. (41) Say (O Muhammad, to the disbelievers): If there were other gods along with Him, as they say, then had they sought a way against the Lord of the Throne. (42) Glorified is He, and High Exalted above what they say! (43) The seven heavens and the earth and all that is therein praise Him, and there is not a thing but hymneth His praise; but ye understand not their praise. Lo! He is ever Clement, Forgiving. (44) And when thou recitest the Qur'an we place between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter a hidden barrier; (45) And We place upon their hearts veils lest they should understand it, and in their ears a deafness; and when thou makest mention of thy Lord alone in the Qur'an, they turn their backs in aversion. (46) We are best aware of what they wish to hear when they give ear to thee and when they take secret counsel, when the evil-doers say: Ye follow but a man bewitched. (47) See what similitudes they coin for thee, and thus are all astray, and cannot find a road! (48).

    Al-Mujadila sura 58:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Hast thou not seen that Allah knoweth all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth? There is no secret conference of three but He is their fourth, nor of five but He is their sixth, nor of less than that or more but He is with them wheresoever they may be; and afterward, on the Day of Resurrection, He will inform them of what they did. Lo! Allah is Knower of all things. (7).

    March 14, 2011 at 6:53 am |
  9. Muneef

    An-Nisa sura 04:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Then because of their breaking of their covenant, and their disbelieving in the revelations of Allah, and their slaying of the prophets wrongfully, and their saying: Our hearts are hardened – Nay, but Allah set a seal upon them for their disbelief, so that they believe not save a few – (155) And because of their disbelief and of their speaking against Mary a tremendous calumny; (156) And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger – they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. (157) But Allah took him up unto Himself. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise. (158).

    March 14, 2011 at 6:24 am |
  10. Muneef

    Do you know why exactly Muslims are hated for? It is for Reading & Reciting the Quran & follow its Religion of Islam which should have to take in to faith & Belief in the words of the following verses;    

    Al-Baqara sura 02:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    And they say: Allah hath taken unto Himself a son. Be He glorified! Nay, but whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth is His. All are subservient unto Him. (116) The Originator of the heavens and the earth! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. (117) And those who have no knowledge say: Why doth not Allah speak unto us, or some sign come unto us? Even thus, as they now speak, spake those (who were) before them. Their hearts are all alike. We have made clear the revelations for people who are sure. (118) Lo! We have sent thee (O Muhammad) with the truth, a bringer of glad tidings and a warner. And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire. (119) And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah (Himself) is Guidance. And if thou shouldst follow their desires after the knowledge which hath come unto thee, then wouldst thou have from Allah no protecting friend nor helper. (120) Those unto whom We have given the Scripture, who read it with the right reading, those believe in it. And whoso disbelieveth in it, those are they who are the losers. (121) O Children of Israel! Remember My favour wherewith I favoured you and how I preferred you to (all) creatures. (122) And guard (yourselves) against a day when no soul will in aught avail another, nor will compensation be accepted from it, nor will intercession be of use to it; nor will they be helped. (123).

    An-Nisa sura 04:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    O mankind! The messenger hath come unto you with the Truth from your Lord. Therefor believe; (it is) better for you. But if ye disbelieve, still, lo! unto Allah belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth. Allah is ever Knower, Wise. (170) O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" – Cease! (it is) better for you! – Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender. (171).

    Al-Maeda sura 05:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers. (72) They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve. (73) Will they not rather turn unto Allah and seek forgiveness of Him? For Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (74) The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat (earthly) food. See how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away! (75) Say: Serve ye in place of Allah that which possesseth for you neither hurt nor use? Allah it is Who is the Hearer, the Knower. (76) Say: O People of the Scripture! Stress not in your religion other than the truth, and follow not the vain desires of folk who erred of old and led many astray, and erred from a plain road. (77).

    Al-Tawba sura 09:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger nor, acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission and feel themselves subdued. (29) The Jews call Uzayr a son of Allah and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouths; (in this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! (30) They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; Yet they were commanded to worship but one Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to him: (far is He) from having the parents they associate (with him). (31) Fain would they extinguish Allah's light with their mouths but Allah will not allow but that His light should be perfected, even though the unbelievers may detest (it). (32) It is He who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and Religion of Truth to proclaim it over all religion, even though the pagans may detest (it). (33).

    Yunus sura 10:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    And thou (Muhammad) art not occupied with any business and thou recitest not a Lecture from this (Scripture), and ye (mankind) perform no act, but We are Witness of you when ye are engaged therein. And not an atom's weight in the earth or in the sky escapeth your Lord, nor what is less than that or greater than that, but it is (written) in a clear Book. (61) Lo! verily the friends of Allah are (those) on whom fear (cometh) not, nor do they grieve? (62) Those who believe and keep their duty (to Allah). (63) Theirs are good tidings in the life of the world and in the Hereafter – There is no changing the Words of Allah – that is the Supreme Triumph. (64) And let not their speech grieve thee (O Muhammad). Lo! power belongeth wholly to Allah. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (65) Beware ! To Allah belongeth whosoever is in the heavens and whosoever is in the earth Those who follow aught instead of Allah follow not (His) partners. They follow only a conjecture, and they do but guess. (66) He it is Who hath appointed for you the night that ye should rest therein and the day giving sight. Lo! herein verily are portents for a folk that heed. (67) They say: Allah hath taken (unto Him) a son – Glorified be He! He hath no needs! His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. Ye have no warrant for this. Tell ye concerning Allah that which ye know not? (68) Say: Verily those who invent a lie concerning Allah will not succeed. (69) This world's portion (will be theirs), then unto Us is their return. Then We make them taste a dreadful doom because they used to disbelieve. (70).

    Al-Isra sura 17:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Say (unto mankind): Cry unto Allah, or cry unto the Beneficent, unto whichsoever ye cry (it is the same). His are the most beautiful names. And thou (Muhammad), be not loud-voiced in thy worship nor yet silent therein, but follow a way between. (110) And say: Praise be to Allah, Who hath not taken unto Himself a son, and Who hath no partner in the Sovereignty, nor hath He any protecting friend through dependence. And magnify Him with all magnificence. (111).

    Al-Kahf sura 18:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Praise be to Allah Who hath revealed the Scripture unto His slave, and hath not placed therein any crookedness, (1) (But hath made it) straight, to give warning of stern punishment from Him, and to bring unto the believers who do good works the news that theirs will be a fair reward, (2) Wherein they will abide for ever; (3) And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (4) (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie. (5) Yet it may be, if they believe not in this statement, that thou (Muhammad) wilt torment thy soul with grief over their footsteps. (6) Lo! We have placed all that is in the earth as an ornament thereof that We may try them: which of them is best in conduct. (7) And lo! We shall make all that is therein a barren mound. (8).

    Maryam sura 19:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    And they say: The Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a son. (88) Assuredly ye utter a disastrous thing (89) Whereby almost the heavens are torn, and the earth is split asunder and the mountains fall in ruins, (90) That ye ascribe unto the Beneficent a son, (91) When it is not meet for (the Majesty of) the Beneficent that He should choose a son. (92) There is none in the heavens and the earth but cometh unto the Beneficent as a slave. (93) Verily He knoweth them and numbereth them with (right) numbering. (94) And each one of them will come unto Him on the Day of Resurrection, alone. (95) Lo! those who believe and do good works, the Beneficent will appoint for them love. (96) And We make (this Scripture) easy in thy tongue, (O Muhammad) only that thou mayst bear good tidings therewith unto those who ward off (evil), and warn therewith the froward folk. (97) And how many a generation before them have We destroyed! Canst thou (Muhammad) see a single man of them, or hear from them the slightest sound? (98).

    Al-Anbiya sura 21:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them in play. (16) If We had wished to find a pastime, We could have found it in Our presence – if We ever did. (17) Nay, but We hurl the true against the false, and it doth break its head and lo! it vanisheth. And yours will be woe for that which ye ascribe (unto Him). (18) Unto Him belongeth whosoever is in the heavens and the earth. And those who dwell in His presence are not too proud to worship Him, nor do they weary; (19) They glorify (Him) night and day; they flag not. (20) Or have they chosen Gods from the earth who raise the dead? (21) If there were therein Gods beside Allah, then verily both (the heavens and the earth) had been disordered. Glorified be Allah, the Lord of the Throne, from all that they ascribe (unto Him). (22) He will not be questioned as to that which He doeth, but they will be questioned. (23) Or have they chosen other gods beside Him? say: Bring your proof (of their godhead). This is the Reminder of those with me and those before me, but most of them know not the Truth and so they are averse. (24) And We sent no messenger before thee but We inspired him, (saying): There is no God save Me (Allah), so worship Me. (25) And they say: The Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a son. Be He glorified! Nay, but (those whom they call sons) are honoured slaves; (26) They speak not until He hath spoken, and they act by His command. (27) He knoweth what is before them and what is behind them, and they cannot intercede except for him whom He accepteth, and they quake for awe of Him. (28).

    Al-Furqan sura 25: 
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Blessed is He Who hath revealed unto His slave the Criterion (of right and wrong), that he may be a warner to the people. (1) He unto Whom belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth, He hath chosen no son nor hath He any partner in the Sovereignty. He hath created everything and hath meted out for it a measure. (2) Yet they choose beside Him other gods who create naught but are themselves created, and possess not hurt nor profit for themselves, and possess not death nor life, nor power to raise the dead. (3) Those who disbelieve say: This is naught but a lie that he hath invented, and other folk have helped him with it, so that they have produced a slander and a lie. (4) And they say: Fables of the men of old which he hath had written down so that they are dictated to him morn and evening. (5) Say (unto them, O Muhammad): He who knoweth the secret of the heavens and the earth hath revealed it. Lo! He ever is Forgiving, Merciful. (6).

    As-Saaffat 37:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Now ask them (O Muhammad): Hath thy Lord daughters whereas they have sons? (149) Or created We the angels females while they were present? (150) Lo! it is of their falsehood that they say: (151) Allah hath begotten. Allah! verily they tell a lie. (152) (And again of their falsehood): He hath preferred daughters to sons. (153) What aileth you? How judge ye? (154) Will ye not then reflect? (155) Or have ye a clear warrant? (156) Then produce your writ, if ye are truthful. (157) And they imagine kinship between him and the jinn, whereas the jinn know well that they will be brought before (Him). (158) Glorified be Allah from that which they attribute (unto Him), (159).

    Az-Zumar sura 39:
    n the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created. Be He glorified! He is Allah, the One, the Absolute. (4).

    Al-Jinn sura 72:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Say (O Muhammad): It is revealed unto me that a company of the Jinn gave ear, and they said: Lo! we have heard a marvellous Qur'an, (1) Which guideth unto righteousness, so we believe in it and we ascribe unto our Lord no partner. (2) And (we believe) that He – exalted be the glory of our Lord! – hath taken neither wife nor son, (3) And that the foolish one among us used to speak concerning Allah an atrocious lie. (4) And lo! we had supposed that humankind and jinn would not speak a lie concerning Allah – (5).

    March 13, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
    • Muneef

      Among those above of idolators,pagans and non believers of God....what can you expect the followers of Islam of the Quran would be treated by them majority ?

      March 13, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
    • Frederica

      Muslims are safe under the Bible-literate Christians. Except by Biblical Christians, dominion by any group of humans pose threat to certain people ALWAYS.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:01 am |
    • Kuffar

      "Do you know why exactly Muslims are hated for?"

      Let's see... ok, yes. I'm sure I do. Here goes.

      1. Miscellaneous Killing (incl. Bombing, Shooting, Stoning, Amputating, etc..)
      2. Emotional and Physical Cruelty (not otherwise categorized.)
      3. Intolerance
      4. Self-Righteousness
      5. Misogyny
      6. Prevarication
      7. Insidiousness
      8. Apathy (unless as an intentional part of Insidiousness)
      9. Instability
      10. Megalomania

      Feel free to add your own to the list.

      March 14, 2011 at 2:45 am |
  11. The Bottom Line

    http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2011/03/in_defense_of_peter_kings_muslim_hearings.html

    March 13, 2011 at 1:41 am |
  12. Iqbal Khan

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w199.html

    March 12, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
  13. Iqbal Khan

    And watch this....

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27660.htm

    March 12, 2011 at 12:34 pm |
  14. Steve

    When will we learn to leave religions alone? My ancestors were Quaker. They were abused, due to their faith. Mormons were abused as well. I'll never understand why the Nazi's hated jewish people. They laugh, cry, and bleed just like the rest of us. People fled to our country because of religious persecution. We should deal with those who break the law on an individual basis. It's like banning dogs that "look" like pit bulls because some cause problems. Punish the deed, not the breed.

    March 10, 2011 at 5:11 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      " When will we learn to leave religions alone?"

      Maybe when they leave us alone.

      March 10, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
    • False Reality

      And who is this terrifying THEY exactly?

      March 10, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      Basically, THEY who judge me; THEY who try to harm me; THEY who bug me by coming to my door and inconveniencing me or sending me unsolicited mail; THEY who tell me that I'm not contributing enough; THEY who attempt to influence my actions through threats or fear; etc..

      What did you think I meant? Simply 'Muslims'? Please. Go throw it somewhere else.

      March 10, 2011 at 10:24 pm |
    • Justina

      Steve, by instinct people don't like those who don't belong to them. Enmity is something common and too familiar among humans, young and old. Also, having a common enemy strengthens the tie of a group, and it does work for some preservation measure. It's Jesus and His followers who taught barbaric mankind the unconditional love of God that must be lived out. Such love is against our instinct, but has been commanded by God both in the Old and New Testaments. This love is misperceived in the post-christian West, as people left out the holiness and righteousness of God.

      March 12, 2011 at 4:06 am |
  15. Mark from Middle River

    Reality and Oh Say can I see.

    How many times do I have to keep saying this type of knowledge on the both of you.

    One more time, put your ears on, please. The threats of life are all around us but even with the "R" at the end of my voter registration I gotta wonder about this guys thinking. Unless the government starts to monitor thoughts then what is the point of the hearing. I am not blind to radical Islam as being a threat but a hearing on the Hill is a total waste of time.

    Such hearings are like arguments here in the Belief Blog. Anyone... absolutely anyone with a such a boring life as to watch a Senate Hearing that is just for information sakes .... is not weak minded and nothing that will be said in such a hearing will change the opinion on the subject before the first word is spoken.

    King is a smart man, he knows this, ...all this is good for is to p-off a group.

    March 10, 2011 at 5:01 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      @MMR

      I've said it before, and I'll repeat it again and again.

      When there is controversy, I always read both point (favorable to my opinion) and counterpoint. Then I read more counterpoint.

      Here's some counterpoint for you.
      http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/kings-hearings/

      March 10, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
    • Reality

      Mark from Muddy River,

      Did you watch the hearings? Dr. Jasser's analysis about Islam being stuck in 15th century mentality with an immediate need to modernize i.e. clean up the koran was "spot-on". One wonders how many imams will be issuing fatwas on his life?

      March 10, 2011 at 11:45 pm |
  16. cullinan

    to late for this if you really want to stop muslims you should prevent them from coming here but Muslims always a muslims so what is the point?

    March 10, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
    • False Reality

      And a bigot is always a bigot

      March 10, 2011 at 4:05 pm |
  17. Reality

    The reason for this hearing and one that takes priority over any hurt feelings or tears:

    To reiterate yet again: Getting to heart of the situation

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what continues to drive Muslims to commit global acts of terror and horror? The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere.–

    (Dr. Jasser, one of the witnesses at the hearing definitely is aware of the situation within Islam. One hopes he is successful in his attempts to modernize Islam.)

    March 10, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Sorry Reality, but I do not hold all white people responsible for the lynchings of the past or for Martin Luther Kings assassination or Rodney Kings beating.

      You ask what is the cause, its the same as always, power over other men. Be it through the court houses, the houses of faith, to even the professor who that if you do not hold the same views as he does you have to kiss that "A" goodbye.

      I can understand your views but in the end, the thirst to make others bend to your view and will, has always been the cause of all atrocities.

      Sad thing is that you know this Reality. All people who hate and fear others that believe or look different do. I hope one day, before you pass from this world that you learn to get past it.

      March 10, 2011 at 3:51 pm |
    • False Reality

      I'm sure they will do that just as quickly as the Christians will remove all of its violent rhetoric against gays, women, support of slavery and violence against all sorts of non believers. It is ridiculous to ask Muslims to change their holy book when the one this country totes all the time carries the same vitriol. Ask yourself how quickly you would agree to change the Bible.

      March 10, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      @ MMR

      You're critiquing -Reality- with this allegation -

      "Thirst to make others bend to (a) view"

      Really, Mark? There are much more applicable targets for that claim. Let's think.. who or what would be a good candidate....
      oh, that's right. Islam.

      Reality, like many others here, are simply trying to point out an imminent threat. Peter King is doing the same.

      While putzes like you continue to throw allegations of hate. Got news for you, Mark. It has nothing to do with "hate", more so, our concerns are grounded in objective events and a healthy respect for what's been happening in the world around us.

      March 10, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
    • False Reality

      "Reality, like many others here, are simply trying to point out an imminent threat. Peter King is doing the same."

      And what exactly is Peter King's support of the IRA doing? A terrorist is a terrorist. It's a fringe group that meets its needs through terror. Just because their Religion is different from yours does not make them immediately a threat nor does it make them immediately a terrorist, anymore than the IRA makes all Irish people terrorists.

      March 10, 2011 at 4:22 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      Geez.. how many times do I have to post this?

      http://www.nysun.com/national/rep-king-and-the-ira-the-end-of-an-extraordinary/15853/

      Read the whole thing and try to comprehend the complexities of politics.

      March 10, 2011 at 4:26 pm |
    • False Reality

      Try to understand the complexities of my point..all terrorist groups are a SMALL percentage of a larger group. Muslims are no more responsible for stopping Jihadists than Christins are for stopping Abortion Clinic bombings, or the Irish for personall stopping IRA car bombs.

      It's nothing more than a lame, transparent attempt to lump all Muslims in with terrorists; furthermore it's racist, small minded and the fact that there isn't a larger outcry against it from both political parties in this country is pitiful.

      March 10, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      @ False

      You couldn't possibly have read the link. Of course not. You'd rather pound out more futile attacks rather than try to comprehend reason. Good luck with that...

      March 10, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
    • False Reality

      I read the post before...it is still completely irrelevant to the point I am making.

      March 10, 2011 at 4:45 pm |
    • Reality

      Mark from Muddy River,

      Obviously, you missed Dr. Jasser's testimony.

      And once again, the solution in less than 100 words:

      Simplifying the saving of 1.5 billion lost Muslim souls:
      There never was and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no Islam

      Simplifying the saving of 2 billion lost Christian souls:
      There was and never will be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no Christianity

      Simplifying the saving of 15.5 million Orthodox followers of Judaism:
      Abraham and Moses never existed.

      Added details upon request.

      March 10, 2011 at 4:45 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      @ False

      Oh, my mistake. I didn't realize that you were trying to make a point. Seems that was lost in all your "terrorist" accusations. Please spin again...

      March 10, 2011 at 5:07 pm |
    • False Reality

      "Oh, my mistake. I didn't realize that you were trying to make a point. Seems that was lost in all your "terrorist" accusations. Please spin again..."

      Please tell me where exactly I accused anyone of being a terrorist? My message never changed, you are simply trying to cherry pick one comment and ignore the actual message which is that Islam is not resposible for terrorism; terrorists are.

      March 10, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      @ False

      "...Christians will remove all of its violent rhetoric against gays, women, support of slavery and violence against gays, women, support of slavery and violence against all sorts of non believers."

      "And what exactly is Peter King's support of the IRA doing? A terrorist is a terrorist."

      "the actual message which is that Islam is not resposible (sic) for terrorism; terrorists are."

      I'll let your remarks stand on their own... 'merit.' So keep fighting – you're bound to make a hole in that paper bag sooner or later.

      March 10, 2011 at 6:37 pm |
    • False Reality

      If you're going to take quotes out of context it probably helps to do so not on the same page as they are posted. The first one is clearly in context of the arguement that Muslims should change the Koran. The second and third quote are simply making my point clear that terrorists are the minority in both the IRA and Islam.

      Pretty clear who is fighting which fight. But let me clarify for you if its confusing and simplify the whole statement with one question I'd like you to answer. Are Muslims as a whole responsible for terrorism or is it a small minority extremist group?

      March 10, 2011 at 7:08 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      @ False

      The answers to your questions can be found "The Complete Infidel's Guide to the Koran" by Robert Spencer, published by Regnery Publishing, Inc., website http://www.regnery.com, $19.95 USD

      Educate yourself.

      March 10, 2011 at 10:14 pm |
    • False Reality

      Way to avoid the question I asked YOU. I could care less what the book says because I am discussing your beliefs. You avoid the question because you know what the answer reveals about you.

      March 10, 2011 at 11:13 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      $13.57 on Amazon.
      http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Infidels-Guide-Koran/dp/1596981040

      My citation of Spencer wasn't an avoidance; it was a reference. He wrote a book on the issue. I care not to get that lengthy in a blog. After all, consideration should be given to a very complex topic. You want an easy answer to chew on... too bad, you can't have one (at least not from me.)

      Or are you -demanding- an answer from me?

      March 11, 2011 at 12:15 am |
  18. williamrsmith

    If we try to understand and challange this threat, then we'll make it worse. If we don't investigate, then they won't attack or try to impose sharia. Don't think so.

    March 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
    • sealchan

      For me its, if we don't look at how American and European foreign policy for years and years has inspired and been twisted to inspire extremist groups in the Middle East to attack Western nations, then we are missing the point completely in targeting an investigation at America's Muslims and their "threat" to "us" (vs them).

      March 10, 2011 at 12:26 pm |
  19. Mark from Middle River

    Hi Davey, So it is just the Republicans who have this fear. If that isn't a ton of baloney.

    Also Obama , when Pew Research did a poll on Obama being a Muslim why are the number of Democrats that believe he IS a Muslim continuing to rise?

    Davey, you are just as bad as King except you manufacture all Republicans as the bogeyman in your head. The sooner you see that the difference between the Rs and the Ds are not that much different, you will be much happier.

    Look behind the curtain Davey, Obama is Dick Cheney's cousin and we can see why we are ...

    Still in Iraq
    Still in Afghanistan
    Guantanamo is still open
    Gay rights at the national level are still stalled.
    .... and now with a Carrier battle group off the coast of Libya ....

    Tell me, sounds like we can rally to any side but things do not change.

    March 10, 2011 at 10:28 am |
  20. akhter

    The media is doing a fantastic job in brainwashing the American public!!

    http://www.iengage.org.uk/component/content/article/1-news/1249-daily-star-reporter-quits-over-papers-islamophobia

    March 10, 2011 at 9:47 am |
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