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My Take: Jesus would believe in evolution and so should you
The most compelling evidence for evolution comes from the study of genes.
April 10th, 2011
01:00 AM ET

My Take: Jesus would believe in evolution and so should you

Editor's Note: Karl W. Giberson, Ph.D., is vice president of The BioLogos Foundation and is the author or coauthor of seven books, including The Language of Science and Faith.

By Karl W. Giberson, Special to CNN

Jesus once famously said, “I am the Truth.”

Christianity at its best embodies this provocative idea and has long been committed to preserving, expanding and sharing truth. Most of the great universities of the world were founded by Christians committed to the truth—in all its forms—and to training new generations to carry it forward.

When science began in the 17th century, Christians eagerly applied the new knowledge to alleviate suffering and improve living conditions.

But when it comes to the truth of evolution, many Christians feel compelled to look the other way. They hold on to a particular interpretation of an ancient story in Genesis that they have fashioned into a modern account of origins - a story that began as an oral tradition for a wandering tribe of Jews thousands of years ago.

This is the view on display in a $27 million dollar Creation Museum in Kentucky. It inspired the Institute for Creation Research, which purports to offer scientific support for creationism.

And it’s hardly a fringe view. A 2010 Gallup poll indicated that 4 in 10 Americans think that “God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so.” (http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/four-americans-believe-strict-creationism.aspx)

While Genesis contains wonderful insights into the relationship between God and the creation, it simply does not contain scientific ideas about the origin of the universe, the age of the earth or the development of life.

For more than two centuries, careful scientific research, much of it done by Christians, has demonstrated clearly that the earth is billions years old, not mere thousands, as many creationists argue. We now know that the human race began millions of years ago in Africa - not thousands of years ago in the Middle East, as the story in Genesis suggests.

And all life forms are related to each other though evolution. These are important truths that science has discovered through careful research. They are not “opinions” that can be set aside if you don’t like them.

Anyone who values truth must take these ideas seriously, for they have been established as true beyond any reasonable doubt.

There is much evidence for evolution. The most compelling comes from the study of genes, especially now that the Human Genome Project has been completed and the genomes of many other species being constantly mapped.

In particular, humans share an unfortunate “broken gene” with many other primates, including chimpanzees, orangutans, and macaques. This gene, which works fine in most mammals, enables the production of Vitamin C. Species with broken versions of the gene can’t make Vitamin C and must get it from foods like oranges and lemons.

Thousands of hapless sailors died painful deaths scurvy during the age of exploration because their “Vitamin C” gene was broken.

How can different species have identical broken genes? The only reasonable explanation is that they inherited it from a common ancestor.

Not surprisingly, evolution since the time of Darwin has claimed that humans, orangutans, chimpanzees, and macaques evolved recently from a common ancestor. The new evidence from genetics corroborates this.

Such evidence proves common ancestry with a level of certainty comparable to the evidence that the earth goes around the sun.

This is but one of many, many evidences that support the truth of evolution - that make it a “sacred fact” that Christians must embrace in the name of truth. And they should embrace this truth with enthusiasm, for this is the world that God created.

Christians must come to welcome - rather than fear - the ideas of evolution. Truths about Nature are sacred, for they speak of our Creator. Such truths constitute “God’s second book” for Christians to read alongside the Bible.

In the 17th century, Galileo used the metaphor of the “two books” to help Christians of his generation understand the sacred truth that the earth moves about the sun. “The Bible,” he liked to say, “tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens ago.”

To understand how the heavens go we must read the book of Nature, not the Bible.

The Book of nature reveals the truth that God created the world through gradual processes over billions of years, rather than over the course of six days, as many creationists believe.

Evolution does not contradict the Bible unless you force an unreasonable interpretation on that ancient book.

To suppose, as the so-called young earth creationists do, that God dictated modern scientific ideas to ancient and uncomprehending scribes is to distort the biblical message beyond recognition. Modern science was not in the worldview of the biblical authors and it is not in the Bible.

Science is not a sinister enterprise aimed at destroying faith. It’s an honest exploration of the wonderful world that God created.

We are often asked to think about what Jesus would do, if he lived among us today. Who would Jesus vote for? What car would he drive?

To these questions we should add “What would Jesus believe about origins?”

And the answer? Jesus would believe evolution, of course. He cares for the Truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Karl W. Giberson.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Culture & Science • Culture wars • Opinion • Science

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  1. ab_contador

    would Santa Clause? Jesus is no more plausible than the easter bunny, santa clause or any other fabricated "person"

    April 10, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
    • Jdomn

      Neither is the fact that we exist. Existence doesn't make sense.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:11 pm |
  2. UglyTruth

    Truth is not part of religion, faith, belief.
    Fantasy does not encourage truth.
    Religion is socially accepted fantasy; socially accepted insanity.

    Accepting evolution as a viable theory or fact is not belief.

    Reality is truth.
    Religion is based on lies.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
    • sobe4you

      no religion is not based on lies what some people have turned it into is, but the ugly truth is that there is more proof of a creator than not

      April 10, 2011 at 7:42 pm |
  3. Steve

    Adam was a leprechaun and Eve was actually Little Red Riding Hood. Makes as much sense as the fairy tales the church has brainwashed society with. You can't "explain" science, its just easier to believe nonsense. I'm surprised they dont insist still the world is flat and we are the center of the universe, or whatever crap is spewed. Guess what, you live, you die, you go in the ground, and thats it. Its a wonderful coincidence anything else.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
  4. Ganjakid

    Evolution has been proven. We have all evolved from fish. Like the article says through databases of genomes we can see how closes DNA strands relate to each other. Another interesting fact is we only know about 10% of our DNA strands, like the brain. We have no idea what everything else on the DNA strands mean except for C D A and G.

    Does god exist? NOBODY KNOWS. I believe he does not. God is a theory, a thought. Humans naturally want to believe life can't be the only thing we are alive for. Why? Because we are greedy. We WANT, and WANT and WANT MORE. God is a thought we have when we can't get through something. God did it. No, you did it. Stop devoting your ONE LIFE to a theory. A theory that can not be explained. Good he answered your prayer. You answered it. We all look up, and want someone else to help us, but in all reality God is just part of your mind. You are so convinced that you believe your thoughts.

    Yes we can pray, and still not believe in 'god'. I do not believe in god. But I will pray every now and then, or look up for an answer. Its natural. But in reality, I know its my decision. You think god chooses everything? No. I made decision A so my life has gone down that road. You are an individual, there is no way god is making these decisions for you, and no way he is punishing/rewarding you.

    You live by good rules, and good things will happen to you. Otherwise things will catch up to you and your punished. Life is a cycle, you are born, live, and die. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

    Maybe we have souls that are reborn. Or maybe DNA does repeat itself. We are only scratching DNA studies, and learning more and more about DNA. I think it is very viable through science, that DNA may repeat itself. Not human to human, but maybe human to animal and so forth.

    In conclusion, you answered your prayer, not god. Good for you!

    April 10, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
    • sobe4you

      Ganjakid, actually people do know that God exists and were around to find out. Just because Ganjakid says that some cosmic fart happened must mean that the big bang theory must mean it's true, give me a break

      April 10, 2011 at 7:38 pm |
  5. citizentobe

    What a simplistic and shallow article!

    April 10, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
  6. Dws

    To the question...would Jesus believe in evolution... Clearly he spoke of the creator... Nothing indicates to believed or taught the non-exsitance of a creator... Evolution makes a lot of assumptions as fact... Sticking to fact the case is not closed even though some would like it that way... We all have a lot to learn but let's stick to fact.... Using common parts from same material does not prove the car evolved from horseshoes ... Still leaves unexplained the source or beginning of life...universe... Let's research and learn but not pass off as fact things unproven ...when all is said we all will find surprises...
    Nothing to fear from honest true proven science...

    April 10, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
  7. Alicia

    the definition of "theory" as found on dictionary.com:

    –noun, plural -ries.
    1. a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity.
    2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.
    3. Mathematics . a body of principles, theorems, or the like, belonging to one subject: number theory.
    4. the branch of a science or art that deals with its principles or methods, as distinguished from its practice: music theory.
    5. a particular conception or view of something to be done or of the method of doing it; a system of rules or principles.
    6. contemplation or speculation.
    7. guess or conjecture.

    How can the "theory" of evolution be stated as fact when the very definiton of the word proves that a theory is no more than a guess, a speculation? I'm sticking with God on this one.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
    • Dave

      You know that gravity's just a theory too, right? Same with electricity.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
    • travis

      how about some examples then? Germ Theory? do you not believe in germs? Atom theory? Theory of gravity? I mean, come on.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
  8. citizentobe

    The author of this article gives such a simplistic and shallow argument in favor of evolutionism that is shameful....

    April 10, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
    • DB

      I don't think so. I think the author is challenging you to READ!!! READ!!!! READ!!! And you will find the research you do, will lead you to this, just the same...

      April 10, 2011 at 6:08 pm |
  9. PraiseTheLard

    Would Jesus believe in Evolution? Only if his parents send him to a school that provides an education rather than an indoctrination.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • DB

      I like that!!!

      April 10, 2011 at 6:05 pm |
  10. Swamp Yankee

    What would have Jesus thought of the crossbow? What would Jesus have thought of the printing press? What would Jesus have thought of the steam engine? Jesus, no matter what you believe about his divinity, lived 2000 years ago. His words and what he believed were written down some time later by his followers and that is all that we have of what he believed. Times change. If my great grandfather were alive today- he might have a few nuggets of wisdom for me- but he wouldn't know the times I live in- what I am all about- what my problems are- what my concerns are- they are all different. Just as the concerns of his great grandfather were different from his.

    These "what if" games are nice- but ultimately they are useless. Anyone who pins what they believe to what they think someone who lived 2000 years ago would have believed about something- using only their knowledge of their era? Is basically hamstringing themselves needlessly.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
  11. Jesus

    i don't think id "believe" in evolution...if i am the truth wouldn't i already know the truth? and if I am the truth, therefore i am God, and hence i would've created the world and may or may not have created evolution along with it. I am not an ignorant human that believes or doesn't believe in petty issues. i KNOW.
    also, what is this article trying to accomplish...it states that Christians are on both sides of the evolutionary theory...so what? it doesn't matter. if evolution is true, then whoopdeedoo. you were right! it doesn't matter!

    April 10, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
    • travis

      omg they have internet in heaven. awesome lol

      April 10, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
  12. RN380

    So. God made the world and He made us in his image, as the Bible says. As a Christian, I have to take that on faith. I can't pick and choose and believe some of what the Bible says. I have to believe the whole thing, even though that's not always easy.

    I'm a nurse, and it is very easy for me to believe that we were created. Our bodies are marvelous and elegant in their functions. Our inner workings are complicated–too complicated for me to believe that we sprang from chance. Somebody made us the way we are.

    The Bible doesn't explain everything. Science doesn't explain everything either. There are gaps. I believe that someday we will know "the truth". Jesus is coming. We will all know what the truth is then.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @RN380,
      Does it not make sense to believe in the Bible as metaphorical truth, in that God made us in his image, and in Nature as another aspect of the truth. Such as, if God created Nature then He performed the metaphorical truth of creating us in His image using the method, the detailed truth, of evolution?
      Also, we did not spring up by chance, evolution and natural selection specifically are not random.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Please let us know in which hospital you work, so that we can avoid it...

      Mindless medical workers should stick to non-critical chores.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
    • Jon

      No, if you are a nurse then you took enough classes in college to figure out that we have evloved over billions of years. Appendixes, nose hairs, sweating, these are all things that make us top of the food chain. There are millions of planets without life on them, we got lucky. Where is god when your patients are dying from cancer, aids, or any other disease. Oh right, he put those diseases here to teach us a lesson. Lesson: 5 year old boy, grow up without a mum, who died from cancer, so you can learn a lesson. You are an idiot.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
    • jim

      So you went to community college for two years and that somehow makes you an expert in biology?? Lol!

      April 10, 2011 at 5:57 pm |
    • JB

      Could it be that science is God's way of explaining what He has done? The bible was written in a time when scientific knowledge was just above absolute zero and therefore it had to be written in a simplistic manner that all could comprehend; young and old, intelligent and illiterate... Now that humanity has reached a greater level of understanding perhaps God has thought – "You want answers, well, the evidence is all around you – figure it out..."

      April 10, 2011 at 5:58 pm |
    • jim

      "too complicated for me to believe that we sprang from chance. Somebody made us the way we are."

      So... since you don't understand it, it can't be true? Good thing you have such a great grasp on quantum physics and neurosurgery! Just think of where the world be without your brilliant, intellectual curiosity!

      April 10, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
  13. Andy M. Littleton CO

    Good science doesn't ask us to "accept" truth. Science speaks a language of probability so at best we can say is that something seems more likely than something else. Therefore, as both a Christian and scientist, I make note of what evolution says but refuse to "accept" the truth. On the other hand, Christian faith teaches truth, that the Christian accepts. This shouldn't upset non-Christians, it's just a different system than science.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
    • Dave

      And I don't care what you believe, the problem is that people who believe as you do try to enforce their believes on others. Keep your teachings inside of churches and outside of public schools and I won't care what you believe.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
  14. Yarah

    Matthew 22:29 Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
    • JB

      huh?

      April 10, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • Joe T

      And Darth Vader in Episode V:The Empire Strikes back said, "if you only knew the power of the dark side..."
      What's your point?

      April 10, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • DB

      And if you don't educate yourself, you won't understand the scriptures, let alone the power God. Would you say how surgeons save lives is remarkable? Guess what, you can figure out how they do it if you READ!

      April 10, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
    • GP

      what made you think you do?.......... don't say it's on the bible

      April 10, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
  15. David_G

    This is news? Just when I thought that CNN couldn't become less relevant in the realm of journalism.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  16. think

    Pretty strange reply's here, who is going to read them all???
    well funny thing is they call it science and start talking about billions of years (the world has only 5-6 thousand years of known history) and we talk about billions? give me break please. Our dead friend Einstein tried to explain time and even he did not really succeeded in it, because what is time? where did it started? how fast it goes? is it constant? well funny thing is we don not know, and if somebody starts talking about it as it really knows... is lying!
    A lot of people here just say mantras without even thinking about what they are saying.
    This blogger here in CNN talks about genes... my God, you really must be sick in your mind to read about genes and think for one moment that they support evolution 😮
    They support a real thought plan, and the "broken" genes just support creation and not evolution. (just google around you will find a lot info why)
    I talk usually everyday with so called evolution believers, and they always come to the point that they don't care about truth , but what they want to believe. So to reply to the blogger here, Jesus does not believe in evolution!
    It was funny what some one wrote here: religion is tought, evolution is fact 😛
    hahahaha
    well sorry man, evolution i had to learn at school (what a junk), while God I met with a prayer... 😉
    Just a hint

    April 10, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @think,
      "the world has only 5-6 thousand years of known history"
      the world may have only 5-6 thousand years of *written* history, but it has billions of years known from geological history.
      Your other statements offer no evidence.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
    • JB

      I admire your strong beliefs, but ignoring facts is just plain dumb. Pity, because you seem like an intelligent person...

      April 10, 2011 at 5:44 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      I see! So, your view is that the broken vitamin C gene in all primates is proof of creation. Interesting, as you've then stated that God screwed up when making us.
      Fascinating! If THAT is the case, what ELSE did he screw up?

      As for time, it began when the singularity expanded in what is called the big bang. Before that, there was no time. Add time into an infinitely small space and it expands. Rapidly.
      Time is relative in relation of the velocities of the observer and the observed. At our slow speeds, it's unnoticeable. Get close to the velocity of light and watch weird things happen. All, as predicted by the theory of relativity and some fairly straightforward mathematics.
      Or do you want to curse mathematics, hence one of the biblical patriarchs who advanced and prospered because HE knew mathematics?

      When my children were very young and asked my why the sky was blue, I did not give them a lecture about index or refraction, bandgap absorption and reflection. I gave them the answer that a child can understand. When they got old enough to understand the REAL reason, they got that reason.
      Explaining to a stone age people, just entering the bronze age, one does not give advanced science either.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:54 pm |
    • Kyle

      You seem to place a heavy reliance on your assumption that Earth has only been proven to be 5-6000 years old. When you're "googling around" why don't you look up carbon-14 dating and other dating scientific methods. I don't get why you're so flippant about what science is when it's obvious you don't have a clue. Take a science course or read an article on the subject before you spout absurd generalizations that help you "prove" what you believe in.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:09 pm |
    • Jo Ann Zinaman

      I think that Certain Things Happen such as Dirt Collecting Together or certain Gasses and that Caused the Big Bang. I don't Think that Somebody or Something all of A Sudden Causes Light to Appear and Makes Various Animals and then Took some Dirt and made A Human Being. Jody

      April 10, 2011 at 6:11 pm |
  17. Daniel

    Jesus is just as fictional as Harry Potter you imbecile.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
    • Yarah

      You will find out when you have to bow down to Him as your judge. He's not Harry Potter or any fictional character, He is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
    • Andy

      Hahah. Yarah, if a man kills another man and then repents his sins, does he get to go to "heaven"? Many members of the church would say yes. Yarah, if I don't believe in "god" and I meet him at the "gates", surely he'd take me over the murderer? Wouldn't "he" say, "you've been confused my son, but I am here now to show you right from wrong!"

      Why do people care so much and waste so much time with religion? Just live your damn life, be good to others, abide by laws of man and respect each other.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
    • sobe4you

      can you see an atom or how it works, or do you believe they exist because someone told you they did. Just because you can't see the actual thing doesn't mean you can't see the actual thing.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
  18. David

    I'm terribly confused. Last time I checked, evolution was still regarded as a theory, not absolute truth as stated in this article. At least have the academic and intellectual integrity to talk about the topic honorably.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
    • James

      The theory part of evolution is bacteria evolving all the way to humans over the course of billions of years. Evolution however exists. What do you think your appendix is for? Nothing we've evolved past them.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
    • David

      hmmmm. Science still has a problem with First Cause.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
    • Ron

      David I'm not surprised you're confused. You don't even understand how the term "theory" is used in Science. Hint...it doesn't mean "educated guess".

      April 10, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
    • Kelly

      Many people get hung up on the word: theory- there is a difference between a general theory and a scientific theory. Anyone can have theories, perhaps my theory is that clouds taste like marshmellows; the point being they lack credible evidence and there is no standard of qualities needed as basis for your theory. However, it is VERY different to be a SCIENTIFIC theory. Scientific theories are generated through the peer-review process and are well tested and widely accepted by the scientific community to be the best way to explain a given set of observations. Numerous branches of scientific study point towards evolution, thus forming the scientific theory that evolution is the process driving life.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
    • Dave

      Everything in science is a theory – there is no such thing as absolute truth in science. At this point, evolution is about as well-established as gravity.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Very well, it IS a theory. So is relativity. So is quantum dynamic.
      What is interesting is, 20% of your electricity is generated from a theory that happens to work very nicely in nuclear reactors. Relativity.
      Your computer works because of several theories of quantum dynamics that happen to work REALLY well in those chips.
      So, if you don't want to believe in theories, you'd best pull out your main circuit breaker, so that your faith remains unshaken. Throw away that devil machine, the computer.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • Ben

      I won't bother talking about predictable variation in individuals, gene flow, natural selection etc. because your argument isn't even addressing evidence for Evolution. Instead you're misusing words to suggest something that isn't true.
      Let me define the word "theory" and "law" in their scientific context.
      A law is a description of a particular phenomenon. Laws don't deal with why or how. Laws describe something that is observed.
      A theory is the scientific model that explains a law and from which testable predictions can be made.
      So, the phenomenon/law of gravity is seeing a rock fall from a cliff. But it's the THEORY of gravity (well, technically now Einstein's general relativity) that explains and defines the force of gravity.

      Saying that evolution is lacking in scientific truth because it is a "theory" is just as ludicrous as claiming gravity lacks scientific truth.
      Please have the academic and intellectual integrity to distinguish the two.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • Papalinton

      David
      I am rather gobsmacked with your statement. What is the meaning of, "At least have the academic and intellectual integrity to talk about the topic honorably."

      This is precisely what Dr Giberson is doing.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • Art Vandele

      Indeed, Evolution, or Natural Selection, has been dubbed a scientific theory. It is however important to recognize that the word "theory" as used colloquially appears to indicate a degree of uncertainty, while scientific theories are only known as such only once they have been supported by a wealth of experimental evidence, over a significant period of time.

      Evolution has been quantified, and observed directly on any number of scales, from the microscopic (eg. development of antibiotic resistance), to the macroscopic (eg. selective breeding). In fact, every time a patient follows a doctor's instructions to finish a dose of antibiotic, they are implicitly accepting the principle of Natural Selection as being true, quite literally trusting it with their lives - and rightly so.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
    • Proud to be a Christian

      @Art Vendele

      Theory indicates coherence, not probability.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:14 pm |
  19. Mark

    4/10 Americans prefer creationism because science is hard. to believe in evolution, you'd have to read, be familiar with the scientific method, and understand how deductive logic works. creationism is a much easier to understand, and requires really no thought at all.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
    • Andy

      Mark, I really agree with this statement. Hallelujah.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:42 pm |
    • Ashley

      You would also have to be capable of correctly writing a sentence using capitalization.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
    • Jon

      Lighten up Ashely, its sunday, the lords day. JESUS

      April 10, 2011 at 5:54 pm |
    • sobe4you

      Mark I have to say that is the most retarded thing I have ever heard, you need to put some more thought into your comment before you make them, or else just shut up

      April 10, 2011 at 5:55 pm |
    • Alicia

      Actually, I believe the opposite of what you posted. 6 out of 10 believe in evolution because it is easier to believe we evolved from apes than to believe in a creator who expects us to live in a certain way, and to whom we will all have answer for our sins. Easier to think you are in control and can do whatever you want without any consequences. It's so much easier to deny Him than to accept Him.

      April 10, 2011 at 7:09 pm |
  20. Bill

    Creationists keep saying that evolution is "just" a theory. It's not. It's proven. How it works is a theory, the theory of natural selection! But there is no better theory to explain the immense amount of data. The problem is that many simply don't even want to understand! If it's all god's mysterious work then humanity's fate is all determined by God. But then we would have no free will. Isn't it so much better and wonderful that we have the brain to build the future for ourselves rather than accept what God plans for us? And if God is so good, why there is suffering? Why was there a Hitler? It's obvious: there is no God! Those who don't believe in evolution should not enjoy the benefits of it such as modern medicine. Instead of using antibiotics, pray to God to recover from a sinus infection! I myself work on even better understanding biology in order to have better medicine rather than go to church and pray and shout that atheists are no good members of the society!

    April 10, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
    • sobe4you

      How can you say evolution exists but creationism does not. If you think about the genetic makeup in everything, you can't tell me that life began from a single cell that just magically appeared and created all of life and its complexity. God knows suffering because he himself gave his only son as a sacrifice so that we may have eternal life. There are a lot of things in this world that I can't explain, but I can sure as heck can prove more so that there is a creator than I can not. Evolution does exists on some scale, no one denies that fact, but to say there can only be evolution and not creationism is stupid. As to the post earlier about "if god was a loving god why do bad things like Hitler coming to power happen", I would say that Hitler wasone of the biggest Darwinist that ever lived.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
    • travis

      @sobe4you really? bring hitler into the debate? LOL your funny.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
    • Ganjakid

      Sobe4you, one cell did not magically exist and create everything. Its called the Big Bang. Cells were created, and from those more were. Look at humans. There was one, and now billions. We are just like a bacteria. Cells do the same. Then animals came. And because of different adaptions, some lost and gained other genes, and different codings..

      Don't feel like typing up a book, but in short, evolution has been proven. However people who live their life based off a book, which I have been told is a bad thing to do in school, are ignorant closed minded idiots who think God created everything.

      Not saying people who believe in religion are all ignorant. But the majority I have met and had in depth convos with, really have no evidence to prove the book is true. Its based off a book, which you can see in this article already has a couple things wrong with it, like how long ago everything was created... I guess thats a small detail though

      April 10, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
    • Miss Crabtree

      Bill, I'm not a creationist, however, I neither condemn their beliefs. Before you condemn, or condone anyone, get your facts right. Evolution is a theory. Most scientific assumptions are theories, unless proven as a scientific law; such as gravity. No matter how persuasive evolution theory may be at present, it doesn't preclude its disproof tomorrow, no matter how strong the evidence. As to free will, and the bible; the entire "Genesis" portion of the bible discusses the creation of free will in mankind. The "Wisdom" section of the bible, especially "Job" discusses free will and the existence of evil, and why they are unavoidable. Both questions tantalizing mankind throughout the ages, but neither ever to be answered, I believe. Strength lies not in the disproof of others, but in the understanding of beliefs foreign to oneself.

      April 10, 2011 at 5:58 pm |
    • Chris

      It is ridiculous to even argue. Science offers the best explanation for observations of nature. It is willing to change it's explanation as more observations are made. Sciens deals ONLY with what can be observed. Relgoin by definitin deals only with a supernatural, that with can't be observed. The two worlds can't cross. We get into these pointless arguments when people try to cross them. Of course there is evolution. We can see DNA and know how it works. It's like arguing there can't be clocks when we can see the gears and know how they work. But evolution says nothing about God, neither for or against if can only explain observations of the natural world. Most mainstream Christian groups (Roman Catholics and others) accept science and the finding of biologists. One other problem is that many creationist thing that science is something one accept on faith. Nothing is farther from the truth. Any scientist will drop is theory in a second if a better on comes along

      April 10, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
    • ACheck

      Here's thing thing and you can always tell THEORY does not mean "we think it happens like this". Hypothesis means "this is what we think happens. The scientific definition of the word THEORY means "this is a well tested idea with facts to support it so strongly that the whole thing is accepted as fact" The reason it is not a law is because you can not observe the whole start to finish process. No sugar coating it, if you do not think evolution is/was/will taking place you are wrong and when you are dead weither there is or is not an afterlife you will find out evolution is correct.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
    • Jdomn

      I like the first part of your post. The second part is really weak for two reasons. 1) You clump all Christians together as if they all have one belief. 2) You unfairly create a straw man to represent the faith of others as you interpret it. Science does not contradict my religion, neither does the existence of evil. The second part of your post is overly simplistic and argumentatively-speaking dishonest.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:05 pm |
    • sobe4you

      Evolution does exist on some level, but you can't tell me some cosmic fart happened and suddenly life began and developed into countless species. and as for the Hitler comment if you had actually read the post I was responding too you would have realized why I made that reference

      April 10, 2011 at 7:35 pm |
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