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My Take: Jesus would believe in evolution and so should you
The most compelling evidence for evolution comes from the study of genes.
April 10th, 2011
01:00 AM ET

My Take: Jesus would believe in evolution and so should you

Editor's Note: Karl W. Giberson, Ph.D., is vice president of The BioLogos Foundation and is the author or coauthor of seven books, including The Language of Science and Faith.

By Karl W. Giberson, Special to CNN

Jesus once famously said, “I am the Truth.”

Christianity at its best embodies this provocative idea and has long been committed to preserving, expanding and sharing truth. Most of the great universities of the world were founded by Christians committed to the truth—in all its forms—and to training new generations to carry it forward.

When science began in the 17th century, Christians eagerly applied the new knowledge to alleviate suffering and improve living conditions.

But when it comes to the truth of evolution, many Christians feel compelled to look the other way. They hold on to a particular interpretation of an ancient story in Genesis that they have fashioned into a modern account of origins - a story that began as an oral tradition for a wandering tribe of Jews thousands of years ago.

This is the view on display in a $27 million dollar Creation Museum in Kentucky. It inspired the Institute for Creation Research, which purports to offer scientific support for creationism.

And it’s hardly a fringe view. A 2010 Gallup poll indicated that 4 in 10 Americans think that “God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so.” (http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/four-americans-believe-strict-creationism.aspx)

While Genesis contains wonderful insights into the relationship between God and the creation, it simply does not contain scientific ideas about the origin of the universe, the age of the earth or the development of life.

For more than two centuries, careful scientific research, much of it done by Christians, has demonstrated clearly that the earth is billions years old, not mere thousands, as many creationists argue. We now know that the human race began millions of years ago in Africa - not thousands of years ago in the Middle East, as the story in Genesis suggests.

And all life forms are related to each other though evolution. These are important truths that science has discovered through careful research. They are not “opinions” that can be set aside if you don’t like them.

Anyone who values truth must take these ideas seriously, for they have been established as true beyond any reasonable doubt.

There is much evidence for evolution. The most compelling comes from the study of genes, especially now that the Human Genome Project has been completed and the genomes of many other species being constantly mapped.

In particular, humans share an unfortunate “broken gene” with many other primates, including chimpanzees, orangutans, and macaques. This gene, which works fine in most mammals, enables the production of Vitamin C. Species with broken versions of the gene can’t make Vitamin C and must get it from foods like oranges and lemons.

Thousands of hapless sailors died painful deaths scurvy during the age of exploration because their “Vitamin C” gene was broken.

How can different species have identical broken genes? The only reasonable explanation is that they inherited it from a common ancestor.

Not surprisingly, evolution since the time of Darwin has claimed that humans, orangutans, chimpanzees, and macaques evolved recently from a common ancestor. The new evidence from genetics corroborates this.

Such evidence proves common ancestry with a level of certainty comparable to the evidence that the earth goes around the sun.

This is but one of many, many evidences that support the truth of evolution - that make it a “sacred fact” that Christians must embrace in the name of truth. And they should embrace this truth with enthusiasm, for this is the world that God created.

Christians must come to welcome - rather than fear - the ideas of evolution. Truths about Nature are sacred, for they speak of our Creator. Such truths constitute “God’s second book” for Christians to read alongside the Bible.

In the 17th century, Galileo used the metaphor of the “two books” to help Christians of his generation understand the sacred truth that the earth moves about the sun. “The Bible,” he liked to say, “tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens ago.”

To understand how the heavens go we must read the book of Nature, not the Bible.

The Book of nature reveals the truth that God created the world through gradual processes over billions of years, rather than over the course of six days, as many creationists believe.

Evolution does not contradict the Bible unless you force an unreasonable interpretation on that ancient book.

To suppose, as the so-called young earth creationists do, that God dictated modern scientific ideas to ancient and uncomprehending scribes is to distort the biblical message beyond recognition. Modern science was not in the worldview of the biblical authors and it is not in the Bible.

Science is not a sinister enterprise aimed at destroying faith. It’s an honest exploration of the wonderful world that God created.

We are often asked to think about what Jesus would do, if he lived among us today. Who would Jesus vote for? What car would he drive?

To these questions we should add “What would Jesus believe about origins?”

And the answer? Jesus would believe evolution, of course. He cares for the Truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Karl W. Giberson.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Culture & Science • Culture wars • Opinion • Science

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  1. Hof

    If man evolved from apes, why haven't apes at least figured out toilet paper?

    April 21, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
  2. believeroftheway

    Since JESUS created everything, it is patently absurd to postulate that HE would have supported the false ideology of evolution. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth... And God said," Genesis 1:1,3; In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with GOD, and the WORD was GOD. HE was with GOD in the beginning. Through HIM all things were made; without HIM nothing was made that has been made. In HIM was life," John 1:1-4. JESUS is the WORD and HE confirmed the accuracy of the creation account in Matthew 5:17-19: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." That is a strong warning from JESUS against teaching anything else, and it should be understood that the Law is the first five books of the Bible and include Genesis. Darwinian evolution is a false faith that teaches nothing plus time equals everything. It is not supported by the basic tenets of empirical science, which dictate that to be considered true something has to observable and repeatable. There is not one single fossil record confirming that the primordial soup evolved into anything. CHRIST followers make no claims about our belief being empirical. It is based on faith in JESUS and the Bible. One of the assertions made in the above article is that the Bible was written by "illiterate herdsmen." How could they have written the single most amazing piece of literature ever created? There is only one logical explanation: "All Scripture is GOD-breathed," 2 Timothy 3:16. If one is intellectually honest and researches the wonders of creation they will quickly understand that Darwinian evolution is impossible. For instance, just look at the bombardier beetle. "Since what may be known about GOD is plain to them, because GOD has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world GOD'S invisible qualities—HIS eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Romans 1:20. The proof is there, but we have to look at it honestly.

    April 21, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
  3. josh

    if Jesus was who he said he was, he couldnt have possibly believed evolution. if evolution were to take place, that means there was death before man existed. according to the bible, the penalty for sin = death. so if there was already death before sin, your saying sin has no consequence and Jesus sacrificed himself for nothing. its amazing how all of these christians today try to "fit in" by leaning so far to one side that they actually start adopting this filth.

    April 20, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Unless, of course, it wasn't meant to be taken so literally.
      Faith in something that is, as yet, unknown is one thing.
      Faith in something, in spite of that which is known, is nothing.

      April 21, 2011 at 10:32 am |
  4. Anon

    I'd rather believe I came from a supreme and powerful being than evolved from a monkey. Isn't that faith? Trusting in something that you cant see.

    April 20, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
    • Nonimus

      I'd rather believe all days are sunny and warm, frequently however, reality intrudes.

      April 21, 2011 at 10:24 am |
  5. Kevin Corbin

    It breaks my heart when I read the comments. I had hoped to see some intelligent debate but what I see by and large by all sides of the issues appears to be empty rhetoric and pejorative commentary.

    April 19, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
  6. Christopher

    "Not surprisingly, evolution since the time of Darwin has claimed that humans, orangutans, chimpanzees, and macaques evolved recently from a common ancestor." Seriously? What happened to to humans being created "in the image and likeness of God?" Because humans don't have a broken gene they ended up having an eternal soul? I believe that different animals, plants, etc. can evolve over time, but I don't see how as Christians anyone can believe we have a common ancestor with a monkey. I respectfully disagree with everything in this article.

    April 19, 2011 at 10:27 am |
  7. Joe Redbear

    OMG....Here we go again. If someone can't come up with a real good point or argument, then let's throw out a Bible verse....Good one. What you can't come up with a smart enough, or inteligent enough answere so you got to hide behind a book? Wake up! You want answers too you million dollor questin's. Look around you! Above you...Bellow you! There's your answer's. Your walking on it.....Living off it, Breathing her air. We won't know all the answers until we make are journey. Until then we have people making what i refur to is a guess!...LOL. Keep on trying.... The creator Loves a Good Laugh.

    April 19, 2011 at 1:22 am |
  8. Canmore

    Both beliefs require faith. God requires faith. Evolution is a theory that requires faith. The theory of man from a common species is bad science, but a good theory. It is bad science because it is not observed nor is it repeated therefore should never be confused as a fact. The theory that God created all things does have its evidence. The evidence is provided His proclamations prior to the events. We call these proclamations prophecy. It is witnessed, recorded, testified, and preserved through out this day as proclaimed. Since the Word of God foretells the end from the beginning we are able to witness His Word as true or not. To conclude I know this, your creation was witnessed.

    April 18, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
    • M-kell

      Let me guess you so believe in 'THE BOOK' that you follow all it's laws!!! Tell me do you have Mexican or Canadian slaves? You allowed two but they have to be from another country! It's in the book!!

      April 20, 2011 at 1:22 am |
  9. Amber

    This sickens me! Jesus is God, he knows how this earth and we came about....he did it! Evolution is human's way of trying to have a way out of not believing in the bible so they can do what they want. Evolution hasn't been and can not be proven and so many people will fabricate and try to find any way they can to try and prove it so they don't have to believe in creation. What's so bad about believing in creation anyways, I'd rather believe that than to believe that I evolved from a monkey and that monkey from whatever else. My husband once read an article in Reader's Digest that had the president of the evolutionist scientists or something like that, even that man said himself that it can not be proven and to believe it it takes just as much faith as it does creation, but because he along with all other evolutionists (these are his words) don't believe in creation and in God then the only other option to believe for how we came about was evolution. There are so many flaws to evolution anyways. And there are so many Christian scientists who have proved evolution to be wrong. Read the book 'Evolution Cruncher'. The book is packed with things that disprove evolution. For anyone to ever say that Jesus would believe in evolution is complete heresy and outright selfish disrespect.

    April 18, 2011 at 4:05 pm |
  10. Moshe Ben Avram

    First things first. The OP's whole premise is based on Jesus and Christianity. Sorry folks, but many of you to including the OP need to go back and learn about early Christianity. Number one: Jesus was a Jew not a Christian. That in and of itself throws off the OP's whole premise from the start. Nice try folks.

    April 18, 2011 at 8:02 am |
  11. Lee

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL5GotAVN58&w=640&h=360]

    So is the Christian God a fact, theory or law?

    My personal belief: religions around the world are missing something... the proof. I would love to think that a God is with us in some way, but there has never been any evidence. That is a Fact. It's important to take care of what we know is real and present, such as human beings and the universe that surrounds us. If you open your eyes objectively (uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices) and look at the the world around us, you'll find that wars, country borders, cultures, and our WORLD history affect the religious categories that people fall into. We need to find better ways to work together to live in a more harmonious planet; if not, we're doomed by history.

    The question of God is an important one. It's a question that should be asked over and over, until we have an open and clear understanding of what is going on. The existence of a supreme being shouldn't be as hard to comprehend as it has been. So many lives have been lost for faith based ideas. I'd like to think we're better than that.

    Imagine Darwin crusaders running around the world killing and imposing their beliefs. Sounds crazy right?

    April 17, 2011 at 11:58 am |
  12. Paul

    Evolution is definitely not compatible with Christianity– or science.

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRk-9lGgYl8&w=640&h=360]

    April 17, 2011 at 6:05 am |
    • Ian

      A brief explanation of why Genesis 1 and 2 cannot be read as historical accounts...

      http://saintsocratesblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/brief-summary-of-genesis-1-meets.html

      April 18, 2011 at 3:14 am |
  13. Ron

    Young Earth creationism is so embarrassing.

    April 16, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
  14. Mart

    You speak about "the truth of evolution". WHAT TRUTH? Evolution is A THEORY. It has never been PROVEN, and never will.

    So, you expect us to doubt the Creator's Word, but to accept as infallible the word of His fallen, sinful, mortal creation?

    http://www.christconnection.net/id1.html

    April 15, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
    • Nonimus

      A scientific Theory does not get promoted to something else. In fact, a Theory is an Hypothesis that has been promoted because there are enough facts, laws, observations, experiments, tests, and confirmations to consider it to be true.

      April 15, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
    • Brian

      Mart, the Theory of Gravity says that if you step off your roof the greater mass of the earth will attract you causing to accelerate until you hit the ground. Do you understand Theory now?

      April 16, 2011 at 8:38 am |
    • Chris

      Actually its the LAW of Gravity not the THEORY of Gravity!

      April 16, 2011 at 2:00 pm |
  15. karek40

    When we look at the layers of earth we find practically a void of life in the fossil record until the Cambrian period when suddenly the earth was filled with all manner of life (fossil record). This is a major problem for Darwinian evolutionists. There was not sufficient time for evolution to develop the diversity of creatures; they all appeared in a relatively short period. The most recent problem confronting evolutionists comes from the field of microbiology. The tremendous amount of information stored in each cell clearly points to intelligent design. The problem scientists have is they cannot publicly take a position supporting intelligent design (that evolution simply can not explain what they are finding) with out being ostracized by those who simply refuse to accept the new information. I believe it was Max Planck who said; a new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. Most of the existing academia will have to die before the younger generation can accept the truth of intelligent design.

    April 15, 2011 at 11:40 am |
    • Nonimus

      @Karek40,
      There is evidence for life prior to the Cambrian period from fossils a few hundred million years before to possible chemical evidence 3+ billion years ago. The shortest time estimate for fossils "suddenly" appearing is 5 million years, which even in evolutionary time frames is hardly sudden.
      "The tremendous amount of information stored in each cell clearly points to intelligent design."
      First define information, then show how that "clearly points to intelligent design"

      April 15, 2011 at 4:22 pm |
    • J

      @karek40

      You are exactly right karek40. But I honestly don't think we'll have to wait for all of them to die off before the tide starts changing because it's already begun. Intelligent design is gaining ground rapidly.

      @Nonimus

      Allow me to illustrate very simply what karek40 is referring to concerning the tremendous amount of information. I will further add to that the complex "processes" that take place in the most basic "living" cell. I'm sure you've heard the terms DNA, RNA, Amino acid, Protein, Protein synthesis, Mitochondria, Ribosome, Lysosome, Vacuole, Endoplasmic Reticulum..etc. If not, please forgive me as these are all biological terms. I listed these because they are the components that are absolutely essential for the most basic single cell to be a "living" cell. Amino acids are synthesized, protein is synthesized, energy is transfered, used, digested and then waste removed all using these components. The DNA is the intelligence and the RNA is the messenger that directs all of these processes. These direct the synthesis of amino acids, proteins and then regulate the use of the same based on the activity of the cell. Keep in mind these are all present and functioning in the most "basic" cell. It can be metaphorically thought of as a tiny processing plant with all of the processes synchronized and directed by enormously complex "blueprints" if you will coming from the DNA. I think what karek40 was referring to by "information" is the code or blueprint contained in the DNA that MUST be present for all these processes to be synchronized and function smoothly.

      Now to suggest that the aforementioned illustration spontaneously occurred with random elements laying on the ground without some form of intelligent intervention is absolutely absurd. Where did the complex elements mentioned above come from? Did they just suddenly "appear" out of thin air? Until you can provide me with a reasonable explanation for this, then a logically thinking human mind can only conclude that it was by intelligent design.

      Microevolution as a mechanism for change is observable and accepted and is part of God's plan for the plant and animal kingdom, but macroevolution as the means for fabricating life and complex species is simply fallacy. Intelligent design fabricated life and complex species and evolution is merely the mechanism for change and adaptation.

      April 18, 2011 at 3:32 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @J,
      "I listed these because they are the components that are absolutely essential for the most basic single cell to be a 'living' cell."
      By including the mitochondria, you are obviously talking about Eukaryotic cells which are not even "the most basic" cells that exist today, that would be Prokaryotic, bacteria and archaea. Not to mention that every cell that exists today has undergone billions of years of evolution, so "the most basic" cell possible is currently unknown, as are the cells that existed 3+ billion years ago. My point is that your analysis of the probability of a fully formed modern Eukaryotic cell assembling by random chance is a specious argument and no one except creationists/IDers, building strawman arguments, are suggesting that evolution ever happened that way.

      "Did they just suddenly 'appear' out of thin air? Until you can provide me with a reasonable explanation for this, then a logically thinking human mind can only conclude that it was by intelligent design."
      Again with the strawman arguments. The intent of my reply to Karek40, was to clarify that very misunderstanding by pointing out that one, there were oraganisms that existed well prior to the Cambrian, and two, that at a minimum of 5 million years, the Cambrian organisms did not "appear" "suddenly," or "out of thin air".
      Additionally, the idea that failure to meet your ridiculous criteria automatically results in ID 'winning,' is a logical fallacy called a false dilemma or false dichotomy.

      As for the question I posed about information, I asked for a definition, not more information. The reason I asked is that the definition of information is not always clear. Just ask one of you ID proponents, Dembski, about his non-existent "Law of Conservation of Information." Once there is a definition, then show how that "clearly points to intelligent design" because it has not been shown – clearly or otherwise.

      April 19, 2011 at 10:28 am |
  16. Awesome

    Truth is evolution is not real, because you all still have the intellect of apes

    April 15, 2011 at 10:05 am |
    • Nonimus

      Close...

      The truth is evolution is real, and we know this because we have the intellect of Great Apes.

      April 15, 2011 at 4:36 pm |
    • Tony

      Nonimus, we're not that great. we're ok...we have the intellect of OK apes.

      April 21, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @Tony,
      I going to assume you are joking... at least you didn't call us Lesser Apes.

      April 23, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
  17. Wonderer

    Wis.13

    [1] For all men who were ignorant of God were foolish by nature; and they were unable from the good things that are seen to know him who exists, nor did they recognize the craftsman while paying heed to his works;

    [2] but they supposed that either fire or wind or swift air, or the circle of the stars, or turbulent water, or the luminaries of heaven were the gods that rule the world.

    [3] If through delight in the beauty of these things men assumed them to be gods, let them know how much better than these is their Lord, for the author of beauty created them.

    [4] And if men were amazed at their power and working, let them perceive from them how much more powerful is he who formed them.

    [5] For from the greatness and beauty of created things comes a corresponding perception of their Creator.

    [6] Yet these men are little to be blamed, for perhaps they go astray while seeking God and desiring to find him.

    [7] For as they live among his works they keep searching, and they trust in what they see, because the things that are seen are beautiful.

    [8] Yet again, not even they are to be excused;

    [9] for if they had the power to know so much that they could investigate the world, how did they fail to find sooner the Lord of these things?

    April 14, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
  18. Mark Bacon

    The whole premise of this article is that Jesus was just a mere man, and therefore should believe in evolution. But what does the bible say? "He created everything there is. Nothing exists that He didn't make" (John 1:3).

    April 14, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
  19. Anon

    Oh, and Nonimus explained your Trilobite example. It's just as weak an argument as "why are there still monkeys." If their current form works well for surviving, why would you expect that it's form would dramatically change? No one who supports the theory of evolution says that it should. You do need natural pressures to cause that, without those the population will simply remain stable.

    April 14, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
    • J

      Like I said before Anon, your argument is not based on evidence, it's based on position.

      April 15, 2011 at 8:52 am |
    • Otaota

      J, I feel like your argument is also lacking in evidence. There is evidence that supports evolution, and none that supports "intelligent design." The only 'evidence' anyone can come up with are weak logic arguments and "Your body breathing and seeing are proof," but as a matter of fact, just because you can feel and see, does that mean that you were created by intelligence or you are just evolved enough to be conscious of all of it? Also, too many of you "anti-evolutionists" seem to have never ever read or studied evolution. I guess this is just a testament to the general ignorance of Christianity...

      April 16, 2011 at 10:38 am |
    • J

      Ok Otaota, I'm going to run down to the local hobby shop and purchase a 500-piece model airplane and the glue required to put it together. Then I'm going to dump it on the ground along with the glue and instructions for putting it together. Then I want you to explain to me how that model airplane is going to spontaneously "come together" naturally exactly as those instructions state, in the correct order, and THEN I want you to explain to me how it becomes organic or "living". Oh, and let's just disregard the fact that myself, an intelligent being, went and gathered all the necessary parts and tools for the airplane and then dumped them out in a localized location so that they could spontaneously "come together".

      You see, the above hypothesis is a very similar scenario of what you evolution thumpers are telling us "happened" with enough "time" concerning how the first "living cell" was formed. Anyone with enough brains can see how absolutely absurd such a notion is.

      So... Once you're able to explain to me how this hypothesis could be reality, then I'll disregard intelligent design. Until then, anyone who says there's no evidence for intelligent design merely lacks the said "intelligence" themselves.

      April 18, 2011 at 10:07 am |
  20. B. Randon

    Evolution explains everything and nothing at the same time. It's so maleable and plastic that it can never be disproven. It won't allow itself to be disproven. Anything that can't be disproven is either law or false. BioLogos wants you to assume "law" by appealing to Jesus and Truth. That is a cognitive bias called the authority bias. That is not science.

    There is also plenty of evidence that shows that evolution never happened. The author refuses to entertain those ideas and tries to intimidate the reader to ignore the data in a similar fashion by appealing to Jesus Truth, and Evolution. This is another cognitive bias called the anchoring bias.

    April 14, 2011 at 2:54 pm |
    • George

      Would you like to enlighten us to what exactly is the evidence that disproves evolution?

      April 15, 2011 at 10:50 am |
    • J

      George, the "lack" of evidence to support evolution weakens the theory. The "necessity" of intelligent design disproves it. Unless you are blind AND deaf, then you are enjoying the evidence of intelligent design with every breath you take.

      April 15, 2011 at 11:41 am |
    • Nonimus

      @B. Randon,
      "It's so maleable and plastic that it can never be disproven."
      Evolution is falsifiable. As is sometimes attributed to Haldane, "a fossil rabbit in Precambrian rocks would be enough". Or, perhaps a species that can't be traced to any other species genetically or morphologically.

      "There is also plenty of evidence that shows that evolution never happened."
      What evidence is that?

      April 15, 2011 at 4:08 pm |
    • Anon

      (oy, copy pasta again... these were back in the other responses, but just for you J)
      J, no one is attacking you... The fact that you said, "That's why to uneducated people with agendas against religion" merely shows that it's you with the bias, and possibly a persecution complex... We've asked you more than a few times to explain how intelligent design works and you've simply thrown out obvious strawman after strawman... You have in no way shown why intelligent design should be accepted, instead you've simply mocked us and said that we hate you and your religion... Please do link to/show how intelligent design works. I would love to hear someone who believes this actually explaining how god/aliens implanted new information into our genetics through time. If you can't even begin to do that why should anyone take you seriously over, again, the overwhelming majority of scientists who study these things? You already admitted in believing in an old earth, why trust geologists over biologists? Or physicists for that matter. (Oh right, the perceived persecution complex you so love to show you have 😛 )

      April 16, 2011 at 12:29 pm |
    • Anon

      (Delicious Pasta)
      Addendum: Obvious strawman after strawman of how you think evolution is wrong... Again I must go back to the false dichotomy problem. You haven't shown how intelligent design explains anything, merely what you think is wrong with evolution. I mean seriously, the whole argument about how complex DNA is falls flat on it's face simply because no one in there right mind would expect to find DNA exactly as we know it now (in other words, your mathematics may be accurate, but it lies on a false assumption of the makeup of the earliest lifeforms). Unless of course you would like to claim otherwise about knowing what the earliest life was. You agree that the earth is very old yes? You don't believe mammals existed 2 billion years ago do you? Then the question should be how does intelligent design explain how new forms of life came into existence. How did we go from (and this creature didn't exist 2billion years ago either) the earliest vertebrates to reptiles and mammals? Did your designer design things so they would change their form on their own without it's direct intervention? Does he just work in mysterious ways? Seriously, if your putting this forward as theory those are the kinds of things you have to be able to answer. (not even including having to answer what exactly this designer was and how you know)

      April 16, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
    • Kurt

      There are two kinds of evolution:
      1) There's the version that you read about in the bookstore.
      2) Then there's the version that PhD biologists, cancer researchers and genetic engineers use to do their jobs every day.
      Version #1 is 2/3rds science fiction. Version #2 is immensely practical and does amazing things.
      98% of people have never heard the *real* evolution story. Have you?

      http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/blog/evolution-untold-story/

      Imagine someone gives you a mystery novel with an entire page ripped out.
      And suppose that someone else comes up with a computer program that reconstructs the missing page, by assembling sentences and paragraphs from other places in the book. Imagine that this computer program does such a beautiful job that most people can't tell the page was ever missing.
      DNA does that.
      In the 1940's, the eminent scientist Barbara McClintock discovered that if she damaged the DNA in corn maize, the plant would reconstruct the damaged section by making a copies of other parts of the DNA strand, then pasting them into the damaged area.
      How could a tiny cell possibly know how to do.... that???

      A French HIV researcher has found part of the answer. (Hint: The instructions in DNA are not only linguistic, they're mathematical.)
      Part 2 of "Evolution: The Untold Story" continues here:

      http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/blog/mathematics-of-dna/

      In 1931, the young mathematician Kurt Godel made a landmark discovery,
      as powerful as anything Albert Einstein developed. In one salvo, he
      completely demolished an entire class of scientific theories.
      Godel's discovery not only applies to mathematics but literally all
      branches of science, logic and human knowledge. It has earth-shattering
      implications. Oddly, few people know anything about it.
      The complete story follows here:

      http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/blog/incompleteness/

      April 17, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • Anon

      Gee, thanks for not answering the question of what role your designer actually plays in all this and for just asserting that it looks designed to you... very useful...

      April 17, 2011 at 9:58 pm |
    • J

      Very good post Kurt! Idiots like Anon can't refute it so they just come up with some kind of irrelevant sarcasm in response. I have provided all kinds of evidence for creation and intelligent design on this discussion board. But one thing I've learned about Atheists is.. they don't really want you to provide evidence because it makes them feel even more uneasy than they already feel. You could knock them in the head with a dinosaur bone that was fossilized with a metal fragment in it(which has been discovered), and they would tell you something like.. ummm.. that thing isn't "credible" or it's a "fraud". Because, there again, they don't want to see the evidence. They are in denial of God, and nothing is going to "convince" a person who is in willful denial.

      April 18, 2011 at 10:16 am |
    • Nonimus

      Evolution is not a matter of Atheists versus Theists or Christians. It is a matter of science and should evaluated on the basis of science and scientific evidence. And there is a huge amount of scientific evidence that supports evolution.
      Fossils support evolution, such as Ambulocetus, Tiktaalik, Archeopteryx, etc.,
      biochemistry like cytochrome-c protein,
      biogeography like marsupials in Australia, and
      genetics like Human Chromosome-2 and Endogenous Retroviruses (ERV).

      For more information, try these sites:
      NCSE: http://ncse.com/evolution/science/evolution-primers
      Berkeley: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/home.php
      Smithsonian: http://humanorigins.si.edu/
      TalkOrigins: http://www.talkorigins.org/

      For acadmenic sources:
      Europen Society for Evolutionary Biology's (http://www.eseb.org/) Journal of Evolutionary Biology (http://www.eseb.org/jeb.htm)

      Society for the Study of Evolution's (http://www.evolutionsociety.org/) jounrnal Evolution (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1111/(ISSN)1558-5646)

      April 19, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • Ian M. Wright

      My Take: Karl Giberson, Jesus would believe you to be a fool and so do I. Obviously you have refused to heed the warning in Colossians 2:8: 'Beware, lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." Poor, poor Karl so lost in his own vain deceit chasing after the foolish philosophies of similar vain men trying to usurp the authority of God and His Word...poor, poor Karl!

      April 21, 2011 at 10:47 am |
    • Tony

      You guys are all very intelligent, and no im not being sarcastic. My personal belief is in God and Science. I love both and can't live without both. I do believe in evolution, somewhat. But i believe it is vastly incomplete, that we shouldn't believe it without discussion yet.

      One reason not to believe it yet is speciation. Evolutionists say that we all came from the same source, however we have yet to witness speciation. If you don't know what i mean, please study up on speciation, itmay give you some good discussions with your peers. yes yes some of you might say "just because we haven't witnessed speciation, doesn't mean evolution isn't real" my reply would be "evolution is incomplete, and requires more evidence. afterall, science is about evidence, not the lack of it."

      God gave us the gift of wisdom and faith, there is no reason they cannot coexist

      April 21, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
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