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What's it like to be crucified?
On Good Friday in the Philippines, men will be nailed to a cross to celebrate Good Friday.
April 19th, 2011
08:13 AM ET

What's it like to be crucified?

By Miguel Candela, CNN

On Good Friday in the Philippines men will whip their backs until they are bloody and allow themselves to be crucified.

It is a decades-old practice that takes place predominantly in Pampanga by devout Catholics as a penance or to give thanks to God.

I was there last year to meet the people who take part and to document this colorful and intense experience.

Read the full story here of What it's like to be crucified?

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Asia • Bible • Catholic Church • Christianity

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  2. Muneef

    Salvation in Islam (part 1 of 3): What is Salvation?
    Salvation in Islam (part 2 of 3): Worship and Obey God.
    Salvation in Islam (part 3 of 3): Repentance.

    http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/3681/viewall/

    All about the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W)
    http://www.rasoulallah.net/v2/index.aspx?lang=en

    May 2, 2011 at 7:44 am |
  3. Muneef

    [6:36] The only ones to respond are those who listen. GOD resurrects the dead; they ultimately return to Him.

    [6:37] They said, "If only a certain sign could come down to him from his Lord!" Say, "GOD is able to send down a sign, but most of them do not know."

    Animals and Birds: Submitting Creatures*
    [6:38] All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book**. To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.

    Overwhelming Miracle of the Quran
    [6:39] Those who reject our proofs are deaf and dumb, in total darkness. Whomever GOD wills, He sends astray, and whomever He wills, He leads in a straight path.

    [6:40] Say, "What if GOD's retribution came to you, or the Hour came to you: would you implore other than GOD, if you are truthful?"

    [6:41] The fact is: only Him you implore, and He answers your prayer, if He so wills, and you forget your idols.

    [6:42] We have sent (messengers) to communities before you, and we put them to the test through adversity and hardship, that they may implore.

    [6:43] If only they implored when our test afflicted them! Instead, their hearts were hardened, and the devil adorned their works in their eyes.

    The System*
    [6:44] When they thus disregard the message given to them, we open for them the gates of everything. Then, just as they rejoice in what was given to them, we punish them suddenly; they become utterly stunned.

    [6:45] The wicked are thus annihilated. Praise be to GOD, Lord of the universe.

    God Alone Worthy of Worship
    [6:46] Say, "What if GOD took away your hearing and your eyesight, and sealed your minds; which god, other than GOD, can restore these for you?" Note how we explain the revelations, and note how they still deviate!

    [6:47] Say, "What if GOD's retribution came to you suddenly, or after an announcement, is it not the wicked who incur annihilation?"

    Role of the Messengers
    [6:48] We do not send the messengers except as deliverers of good news, as well as warners. Those who believe and reform have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

    [6:49] As for those who reject our revelations, they incur the retribution for their wickedness.

    [6:50] Say, "I do not say to you that I possess the treasures of GOD. Nor do I know the future. Nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I simply follow what is revealed to me." Say, "Is the blind the same as the seer? Do you not reflect?"

    [6:51] And preach with this (Quran) to those who reverence the summoning before their Lord – they have none beside Him as a Lord and Master, nor an intercessor – that they may attain salvation.

    [6:52] And do not dismiss those who implore their Lord day and night, devoting themselves to Him alone. You are not responsible for their reckoning, nor are they responsible for your reckoning. If you dismiss them, you will be a transgressor.

    [6:53] We thus test the people by each other, to let them say (mockingly), "Are these the people among us who are blessed by GOD?" Is GOD not aware of the appreciative ones?

    [6:54] When those who believe in our revelations come to you, you shall say, "Salmun `Alaykum (Peace be upon you). Your Lord has decreed that mercy is His attribute. Thus, anyone among you who commits a transgression out of ignorance, and repents thereafter and reforms, then He is Forgiving, Most Merciful."

    [6:55] We thus explain the revelations, and point out the ways of the wicked.

    [6:56] Say, "I am forbidden from worshipping what you worship besides GOD." Say, "I will not follow your opinions. Otherwise, I will go astray, and not be guided."

    [6:57] Say, "I have solid proof from my Lord, and you have rejected it. I do not control the retribution you challenge me to bring. Judgment belongs with GOD alone. He narrates the truth, and He is the best judge."

    [6:58] Say, "If I controlled the retribution you challenge me to bring, the whole matter would have been terminated long ago. GOD knows best who the wicked are."

    Almighty God
    [6:59] With Him are the keys to all secrets; none knows them except He. He knows everything on land and in the sea. Not a leaf falls without His knowledge. Nor is there a grain in the depths of the soil. Nor is there anything wet or dry, that is not recorded in a profound record.

    Death and Resurrection: Every Day*
    [6:60] He is the One who puts you to death during the night, and knows even the smallest of your actions during the day. He resurrects you every morning, until your life span is fulfilled, then to Him is your ultimate return. He will then inform you of everything you had done.

    [6:61] He is Supreme over His creatures, and He appoints guards to protect you. When the appointed time of death comes to any of you, our messengers put him to death without delay.

    [6:62] Then everyone is returned to GOD, their rightful Lord and Master. Absolutely, He is the ultimate judge; He is the most accurate Reckoner.

    [6:63] Say, "Who can save you from the darkness of the land or the sea?" You implore Him loudly and secretly: "If He saves us this time, we will be eternally appreciative."

    [6:64] Say, "GOD does save you this time, and other times as well, then you still set up idols besides Him."

    [6:65] Say, "He is certainly able to pour upon you retribution from above you, or from beneath your feet. Or He can divide you into factions and have you taste each others' tyranny. Note how we explain the revelations, that they may understand."

    [6:66] Your people have rejected this, even though it is the truth. Say, "I am not a guardian over you."

    [6:67] Every prophecy herein will come to pass, and you will surely find out.

    Respect for the Word of God
    [6:68] If you see those who mock our revelations, you shall avoid them until they delve into another subject. If the devil causes you to forget, then, as soon as you remember, do not sit with such evil people.

    [6:69] The righteous are not responsible for the utterances of those people, but it may help to remind them; perhaps they may be saved.

    [6:70] You shall disregard those who take their religion in vain, as if it is a social function, and are totally absorbed in this worldly life. Remind with this (Quran), lest a soul may suffer the consequences of its evil earnings. It has none beside GOD as a Lord and Master, nor an intercessor. If it could offer any kind of ransom, it would not be accepted. They suffer the consequences of the evil works they earn; they have incurred hellish drinks, and a painful retribution because of their disbelief.

    [6:71] Say, "Shall we implore, beside GOD, what possesses no power to benefit us or hurt us, and turn back on our heels after GOD has guided us? In that case, we would join those possessed by the devils, and rendered utterly confused, while their friends try to save them: `Stay with us on the right path.' " Say, "GOD's guidance is the right guidance. We are commanded to submit to the Lord of the universe.

    [6:72] "And to observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), and to reverence Him – He is the One before whom you will be summoned (for the reckoning)."

    [6:73] He is the One who created the heavens and the earth, truthfully. Whenever He says, "Be," it is. His word is the absolute truth. All sovereignty belongs to Him the day the horn is blown. Knower of all secrets and declarations, He is the Most Wise, the Cognizant. 

    Abraham Debates With Idol Worshipers
    [6:74] Recall that Abraham said to his father Azar, "How could you worship statues as gods? I see that you and your people have gone far astray."

    May 2, 2011 at 7:42 am |
  4. Adelina

    Have a blessed Resurrection Day, everyone! On Easter Sunday, 2011.

    April 24, 2011 at 9:10 am |
  5. Muneef

    The reason for which the Quran was revealed ;
    The Quran came to conceal and correct the distortion that has taken place in previous scriptures;

    [5:15] O people of the scripture, our messenger has come to you to proclaim for you many things you have concealed in the scripture, and to pardon many other transgressions you have committed. A beacon has come to you from GOD, and a profound scripture.

    [5:16] With it, GOD guides those who seek His approval. He guides them to the paths of peace, leads them out of darkness into the light by His leave, and guides them in a straight path.
    ----
    Quran: The Ultimate Reference
    [5:48] Then we revealed to you this scripture, truthfully, confirming previous scriptures, and superseding them. You shall rule among them in accordance with GOD's revelations, and do not follow their wishes if they differ from the truth that came to you. For each of you, we have decreed laws and different rites. Had GOD willed, He could have made you one congregation. But He thus puts you to the test through the revelations He has given each of you. You shall compete in righteousness. To GOD is your final destiny – all of you – then He will inform you of everything you had disputed.
    The Quran: God's Message to the Jews and Christians
    __________________________________________________
    (01) Distorting the Word of God
    [2:75] Do you expect them to believe as you do, when some of them used to hear the word of GOD, then distort it, with full understanding thereof, and deliberately?

    Concealing the Word of God
    [2:76] And when they meet the believers, they say, "We believe," but when they get together with each other, they say, "Do not inform (the believers)of the information given to you by GOD, lest you provide them with support for their argument concerning your Lord. Do you not understand?"

    [2:77] Do they not know that GOD knows everything they conceal, and everything they declare?

    [2:78] Among them are gentiles who do not know the scripture, except through hearsay, then assume that they know it.

    [2:79] Therefore, woe to those who distort the scripture with their own hands, then say, "This is what GOD has revealed," seeking a cheap material gain. Woe to them for such distortion, and woe to them for their illicit gains.
    __________________________________________________

    (02)  Make no Distinction Among God's Messengers

    [4:150] Those who disbelieve in GOD and His messengers, and seek to make distinction among GOD and His messengers, and say, "We believe in some and reject some," and wish to follow a path in between;

    [4:151] these are the real disbelievers. We have prepared for the disbelievers a shameful retribution.

    [4:152] As for those who believe in GOD and His messengers, and make no distinction among them, He will grant them their recompense. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
    _________________________________________________

    (03) About the Crucification;

    [4:157] And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him – they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him.

    [4:158] Instead, GOD raised him to Him; GOD is Almighty, Most Wise.

    [4:159] Everyone among the people of the scripture was required to believe in him before his death. On the Day of Resurrection, he will be a witness against them.
    __________________________________________________
    (05) about being the Son of God...     
    Az-Zukhruf sura 43:
    When Jesus came with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), he said: I have come unto you with wisdom, and to make plain some of that concerning which ye differ. So keep your duty to Allah, and obey me. (63) Lo! Allah, He is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him. This is a right path. (64) But the factions among them differed. Then woe unto those who do wrong from the doom of a painful day. (65).
    ---–
    Al-Baqara sura 02:
    And they say: Allah hath taken unto Himself a son. Be He glorified! Nay, but whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth is His. All are subservient unto Him. (116) The Originator of the heavens and the earth! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. (117).
    ---
    Yunus sura 10:
    They say: Allah hath taken (unto Him) a son – Glorified be He! He hath no needs! His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. Ye have no warrant for this. Tell ye concerning Allah that which ye know not? (68) Say: Verily those who invent a lie concerning Allah will not succeed. (69).
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    Al-Isra sura 17:
    And say: Praise be to Allah, Who hath not taken unto Himself a son, and Who hath no partner in the Sovereignty, nor hath He any protecting friend through dependence. And magnify Him with all magnificence. (111).
    ---–
    Al-Kahf 18:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Praise be to Allah Who hath revealed the Scripture unto His slave, and hath not placed therein any crookedness, (1) (But hath made it) straight, to give warning of stern punishment from Him, and to bring unto the believers who do good works the news that theirs will be a fair reward, (2) Wherein they will abide for ever; (3) And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (4) (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie. (5).
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    Maryam 19:
    They will have no power of intercession, save him who hath made a covenant with his Lord. (87) And they say: The Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a son. (88) Assuredly ye utter a disastrous thing (89) Whereby almost the heavens are torn, and the earth is split asunder and the mountains fall in ruins, (90) That ye ascribe unto the Beneficent a son, (91) When it is not meet for (the Majesty of) the Beneficent that He should choose a son. (92) There is none in the heavens and the earth but cometh unto the Beneficent as a slave. (93) Verily He knoweth them and numbereth them with (right) numbering. (94) And each one of them will come unto Him on the Day of Resurrection, alone. (95) Lo! those who believe and do good works, the Beneficent will appoint for them love. (96).
    ----–
    Al-Anbiya 21:
    And We sent no messenger before thee but We inspired him, (saying): There is no God save Me (Allah), so worship Me. (25) And they say: The Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a son. Be He glorified! Nay, but (those whom they call sons) are honoured slaves; (26) They speak not until He hath spoken, and they act by His command. (27) He knoweth what is before them and what is behind them, and they cannot intercede except for him whom He accepteth, and they quake for awe of Him. (28).
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    Al-Furqan sura 25:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Blessed is He Who hath revealed unto His slave the Criterion (of right and wrong), that he may be a warner to the people. (1) He unto Whom belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth, He hath chosen no son nor hath He any partner in the Sovereignty. He hath created everything and hath meted out for it a measure. (2).
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    Az-Zumar sura 39:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    The revelation of the Scripture is from Allah, the Mighty, the Wise. (1) Lo! We have revealed the Scripture unto thee (Muhammad) with truth; so worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only). (2) Surely pure religion is for Allah only. And those who choose protecting friends beside Him (say): We worship them only that they may bring us near unto Allah. Lo! Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Lo! Allah guideth not him who is a liar, an ingrate. (3) If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created. Be He glorified! He is Allah, the One, the Absolute. (4).
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    Al-Jinn 72:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Say (O Muhammad): It is revealed unto me that a company of the Jinn gave ear, and they said: Lo! we have heard a marvellous Qur'an, (1) Which guideth unto righteousness, so we believe in it and we ascribe unto our Lord no partner. (2) And (we believe) that He – exalted be the glory of our Lord! – hath taken neither wife nor son, (3) And that the foolish one among us used to speak concerning Allah an atrocious lie. (4) And lo! we had supposed that humankind and jinn would not speak a lie concerning Allah – (5).
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    Al-Maeda 05:
    And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I had ever said it, then Thou wouldst have known it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden? (116) I spake unto them only that which Thou commandedst me, (saying): Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. I was a witness of them while I dwelt among them, and when Thou tookest me Thou wast the Watcher over them. Thou art Witness over all things. (117) If Thou punish them, lo! they are Thy slaves, and if Thou forgive them (lo! they are Thy slaves). Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Mighty, the Wise. (118).
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    Quran came to unvail many disputed or concealed facts of many other things  although still elder books are considered part thereof the Holy Quran because it is only complete with it as sura:verse 05:48 states.

    April 23, 2011 at 5:44 pm |
    • Adelina

      Muneef, you don't have the Divine Savior. Nice try, but futile.

      April 24, 2011 at 9:11 am |
  6. Tom Piper'Sr

    Adelina..pls. bear with my son, it has been a challenge for him comprehending simple statement for his brain dries up because of solvent inhalation overdose.

    April 22, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • Adelina

      Hello... you two people are too funny I'm totally speechless here. I rarely laughed so hard. Tom Sr., Please understand I care for the other Tom (Piper's Son) as any Christian would. He just needs to know God loves him and to accept God's truth on God's terms as recorded in the Bible. And I think your son can write much better if he doesn't use those unfamiliar English slung phrases.

      April 23, 2011 at 7:52 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      SLANG, IDIOT.

      April 23, 2011 at 11:54 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Really, you mindless troll, you don't know what 'slang' is. I haven't used any 'slang' in my posts. Idioms, perhaps, but the fact that you can't tell the difference speaks volumes. "Tom Sr" is probably CW or some other dolt who is ticked off because I've ridiculed his idiocy previously.

      As for you "care", Adelina, I don't need or want anything to do with you. People like you think their blessings mean something, when in fact, they are hypocritical. You have already stated that you'll enjoy watching anyone who doesn't swallow your brand of Christianity roast in hell. You can't seem to grasp the fact that simply because someone doesn't buy your fire and brimstone baloney does not mean he/she is an atheist.

      You are blind to the idea that others may believe that the Bible is not inerrant and that it was never intended to be interpreted as absolute truth. That no 'god' wrote it-only men with their imperfections and biases did. You are incapable of recognizing that not everyone who rejects your ideas is an atheist or immoral.

      But why bother? You won't get it this time around, either.

      April 23, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
    • Tom Piper'Sr

      Relax son, here's your favourite nursery rhyme to calm you down.

      Your mouth dribbles
      Your nose bubbles
      Stop the non-sense babbles

      CHILL!!! Son.

      April 23, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
    • Adelina

      Tom Piper, I initially thought Tom Sr. as comical because I thought you and Tom Sr. are friends and both of you were joking together. Now I know. Tom Sr, please stop being mean to Tom Piper. Tom Piper, there is nothing I can do for you except praying that you would be saved by believing in Jesus and find happiness in His creation again. As I said before, you don't need to read my comments. I think you got wrong information on HeavenSent and me from our fakes. Tom, the reality is hard. You must learn to take and trust God's Word as it is. The world does not consist of God-haters' wishful, filthy imaginations. You non-believers or pseudo-christians regard God in human level and that's totally fatal about you.

      April 24, 2011 at 9:07 am |
    • Adelina

      @Tom Piper's Son: Are you really a woman in 50's? You sound like a man or a wrecked teenage girl. Should I really address you with feminine pronouns? Why did you choose your user name as "Tom"?

      April 24, 2011 at 9:18 am |
  7. Muneef

    All that been mentioned about John (Yahia) in the Quran.
    The Birth of John
    [3:38] That is when Zachariah implored his Lord: "My Lord, grant me such a good child; You are the Hearer of the prayers."

    [3:39] The angels called him when he was praying in the sanctuary: "GOD gives you good news of John; a believer in the word of GOD, honorable, moral, and a righteous prophet."

    [3:40] He said, "How can I have a boy, when I am so old, and my wife is sterile?" He said, "GOD does whatever He wills."

    [3:41] He said, "My Lord, give me a sign." He said, "Your sign is that you will not speak to the people for three days, except through signals. Commemorate your Lord frequently; and meditate night and day."
    ------
    Zachariah
    [19:2] A narration about your Lord's mercy towards His servant Zachariah.

    [19:3] He called his Lord, a secret call.

    [19:4] He said, "My Lord, the bones have turned brittle in my body, and my hair is aflame with gray. As I implore You, my Lord, I never despair.

    [19:5] "I worry about my dependants after me, and my wife has been sterile. Grant me, from You, an heir.

    [19:6] "Let him be my heir and the heir of Jacob's clan, and make him, my Lord, acceptable."

    John
    [19:7] "O Zachariah, we give you good news; a boy whose name shall be John (Yahya). We never created anyone like him before."

    [19:8] He said, "My Lord, will I have a son despite my wife's sterility, and despite my old age?"

    [19:9] He said, "Thus said your Lord: `It is easy for Me to do. I created you before that, and you were nothing.' "

    [19:10] He said, "My Lord, give me a sign." He said, "Your sign is that you will not speak to the people for three consecutive nights."

    [19:11] He came out to his family, from the sanctuary, and signaled to them: "Meditate (on God) day and night."

    [19:12] "O John, you shall uphold the scripture, strongly." We endowed him with wisdom, even in his youth.

    [19:13] And (we endowed him with) kindness from us and purity, for he was righteous.

    [19:14] He honored his parents, and was never a disobedient tyrant.

    [19:15] Peace be upon him the day he was born, the day he dies, and the day he is resurrected back to life.
    -------
    Zachariah and John
    [21:89] And Zachariah implored his Lord: "My Lord, do not keep me without an heir, though You are the best inheritor."

    [21:90] We responded to him and granted him John; we fixed his wife for him. That is because they used to hasten to work righteousness, and implored us in situations of joy, as well as fear. To us, they were reverent. 
    -------
    [6:85] Also, Zachariah, John, Jesus, and Elias; all were righteous.
    --------

    April 21, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
    • Reality

      Saving 1.5 billion lost Muslims to include Muneef:

      There never was and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no Islam and therefore no more koranic-driven acts of horror and terror

      April 21, 2011 at 11:50 pm |
  8. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    Addie can't even remember who's told her what. I'm a woman, you twit. My parents died. Anything else, dumbazz?

    April 21, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • Adelina

      Tom, but isn't "Tom" a boy's name? I'm sorry. I liked it when you told me about your mother. Why are you so angry?

      April 22, 2011 at 4:07 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Of course Tom is a boy's name. So? The phrase comes from a nursery rhyme. Look it up.

      My mother actually read to me. Sorry you were less fortunate.

      April 22, 2011 at 6:30 pm |
    • Adelina

      Tom, I have very good parents and grew up with fair songs. Are you really a woman? How come Tom Sr calls you a son?

      April 23, 2011 at 7:54 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      because he is a troll like you

      April 23, 2011 at 11:53 am |
    • Tom Piper'Sr

      No son, I'm not a troll. I'm your dad.

      April 23, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
    • Maybe

      Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son,

      I know the rhyme ( from Mother Goose):

      Tom Tom the piper's son
      Stole a pig and away did run,
      The pig was eat and Tom was beat
      And Tom went roaring down the street.

      I am just not seeing the imagery of why you use it as a screen name... are you roaring because you were beaten?... or is it a reference to something in the other verses?

      April 23, 2011 at 5:42 pm |
    • Adelina

      Tom, I realized a number of people are mean to you in this blog. I don't mind being bullied at all, because I'm used to it as a Christian. But I feel sorry for you; you shouldn't face meaness if it's too much because you don't have Jesus. I can't imagine such a severe hellish condition like being bullied when one doesn't have Jesus.

      April 24, 2011 at 8:49 am |
  9. doubtful

    Adelena have you read the Quran or any of the other holy books and compared it to what you believe in ? unless you did you dont make any sense

    April 21, 2011 at 10:35 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Adipose could have read every book ever written and she STILL wouldn't make any sense. She's a zealot.

      April 21, 2011 at 11:55 am |
    • Adelina

      @Doubtful, I learned about religions in the ways I can, that's why I understand Muslims though Christians are heavily persecuted in most of the Islamic land. Did you read the Bible? Most major religions are kind of okay, it's just they don't have salvation except Jesus the Divine Savior, and mankind cannot combat evil in realistic ways except by applying the Biblical principles.

      April 22, 2011 at 4:17 am |
    • Jdh

      Wait, why don't they have any salvation except through Jesus Christ?

      April 22, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
    • Adelina

      @Jdh, because humanity can not save themselves, and only the atonement of sinless infinite Being can redeem the sinful mankind from the eternal sin penalty.

      April 23, 2011 at 7:57 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Says who, Ad? The Bible? How convenient.

      April 23, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
    • Adelina

      @Tom: Both the Bible AND observation on reality regarding all mankind. Biblical theology is science.

      April 24, 2011 at 8:44 am |
  10. Muneef

    THE WASHINGTON TIMES 
    Judas stars as 'anti-hero' in gospel By Julia Duin 
     National Geographic 
    Near the end of the Judas gospel, Jesus tells Judas he will "exceed" the rest of the disciples "for you will sacrifice the man that clothes me."
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/apr/7/20060407-120642-3758r/

    April 20, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
    • Adelina

      Non-canon gabage

      April 20, 2011 at 10:56 pm |
    • Adelina

      Muneef, Muslims are supposed to read the Gospels. Do it now instead of getting into a cult.

      April 20, 2011 at 11:03 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yeah, really, because look what belonging to a cult has done to Adelina. Oh, wait; she was like that from birth.

      April 20, 2011 at 11:38 pm |
    • Adelina

      Tom, you are proving that the American youth has no manner. Stop this.

      April 20, 2011 at 11:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "American youth"? You boob, I'm not young. I'm well past 50. Grow a brain, you witless bovine.

      April 20, 2011 at 11:59 pm |
    • Adelina

      Tom, talk like a man, then. Your sentence is too difficult to understand, but I don't want to look up dictionary for your words for the fear of wasting time. Where is your poor mother?

      April 21, 2011 at 12:11 am |
    • HotAirAce

      @Adelina

      Allow me to translate: you are a stupid, brainless cow in addition to being a liar (my addition from above) but you resemble a bre-ast, so may have some use.

      April 21, 2011 at 12:23 am |
    • Adelina

      @HotAirAce, you must be a shame even to your atheist friends.

      April 21, 2011 at 12:54 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Adipose, if you were any dumber, we'd have to water you.

      April 21, 2011 at 11:54 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Muneef I will enjoy watching your Mohammed burn in hell for eternity. It still isnt too late to turn to Jesus.
      Amen...

      April 21, 2011 at 1:39 pm |
    • Muneef

      No Heaven or Hell been opened to receive their eternal guests yet..!
      All mankind from Adam date to the last earthly life date will be resurrected and judged on judgment day then only all will be directed to hell and then save those righteous to heavens...as per verses [19:71] & [19:72].

      Same faith would apply for Al-Jinn (Fire Creatures) although they came into earthly life many ages before Adam&Eve (Water Creatures)..
       
      [56:49] Say, "The early generations and the later generations.

      [56:50] "Will be summoned to a meeting on a predetermined day.
      ------
      Special Warning to the Leaders
      [19:68] By your Lord, we will certainly summon them, together with the devils, and will gather them around Hell, humiliated.

      [19:69] Then we will pick out from each group the most ardent opponent of the Most Gracious.

      [19:70] We know full well those who are most deserving of burning therein.

      Everyone Sees Hell*
      [19:71] Every single one of you must see it; this is an irrevocable decision of your Lord.

      [19:72] Then we rescue the righteous, and leave the transgressors in it, humiliated.

      The Majority
      [19:73] When our revelations are recited to them, clearly, those who disbelieve say to those who believe, "Which of us is more prosperous? Which of us is in the majority?"

      [19:74] Many a generation have we annihilated before them; they were more powerful, and more prosperous.

      [19:75] Say, "Those who choose to go astray, the Most Gracious will lead them on, until they see what is promised for them – either the retribution or the Hour. That is when they find out who really is worse off, and weaker in power."

      [19:76] GOD augments the guidance of those who choose to be guided. For the good deeds are eternally rewarded by your Lord, and bring far better returns.

      --------

      [3:50] "I confirm previous scripture – the Torah – and I revoke certain prohibitions imposed upon you. I come to you with sufficient proof from your Lord. Therefore, you shall observe GOD, and obey me.

      [3:51] "GOD is my Lord and your Lord; you shall worship Him alone. This is the right path."

      [3:52] When Jesus sensed their disbelief, he said, "Who are my supporters towards GOD?" The disciples said, "We are GOD's supporters; we believe in GOD, and bear witness that we are submitters."

      [3:53] "Our Lord, we have believed in what You have sent down, and we have followed the messenger; count us among the witnesses."

      The Death of Jesus*
      [3:54] They plotted and schemed, but so did GOD, and GOD is the best schemer.

      [3:55] Thus, GOD said, "O Jesus, I am terminating your life, raising you to Me, and ridding you of the disbelievers. I will exalt those who follow you above those who disbelieve, till the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is the ultimate destiny of all of you, then I will judge among you regarding your disputes.

      [3:56] "As for those who disbelieve, I will commit them to painful retribution in this world, and in the Hereafter. They will have no helpers."

      [3:57] As for those who believe and lead a righteous life, He will fully recompense them. GOD does not love the unjust.

      [3:58] These are the revelations that we recite to you, providing a message full of wisdom.

      [3:59] The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be," and he was.

      [3:60] This is the truth from your Lord; do not harbor any doubts.

      April 21, 2011 at 2:14 pm |
    • Muneef

      [3:77] As for those who trade away GOD's covenant, and their obligations, for a cheap price, they receive no share in the Hereafter. GOD will not speak to them, nor look at them, on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them. They have incurred a painful retribution.

      [3:78] Among them are those who twist their tongues to imitate the scripture, that you may think it is from the scripture, when it is not from the scripture, and they claim that it is from GOD, when it is not from GOD. Thus, they utter lies and attribute them to GOD, knowingly.

      [3:79] Never would a human being whom GOD blessed with the scripture and prophethood say to the people, "Idolize me beside GOD." Instead, (he would say), "Devote yourselves absolutely to your Lord alone," according to the scripture you preach and the teachings you learn.

      [3:80] Nor would he command you to idolize the angels and the prophets as lords. Would he exhort you to disbelieve after becoming submitters?

      [3:81] GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."

      [3:82] Those who reject this (Quranic prophecy) are the evil ones.

      [3:83] Are they seeking other than GOD's religion, when everything in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly and unwillingly, and to Him they will be returned?

      April 21, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
  11. Reality

    Just more examples of people suffering from the Three B Syndrome i.e. Bred, Born and Brainwashed in religious mumbo jumbo. If the there is a god, it cannot be pleased with the stupidity of inflicting harm on your body.

    April 20, 2011 at 6:18 pm |
    • Adelina

      Anything else? Are your comments automatic? How do you do that, Reality? You are right on one thing; this practice has gone way too far. If people get permanent injuries and sickness from doing this, they should blame themselves. True penance brings a transformed life, never follies or pride.

      April 20, 2011 at 11:01 pm |
  12. GSA

    @Adelina – respect your views and beliefs and it's your right to believe in what you want. Just a question though, have you read any other religious books besides the bible? Not only read them but studied them as well? It would help you to open up and understand where others are coming from and you are right with your statement that ppl shouldn't make judgements on your beliefs until they have studied and understood them. I am sure that there are those on this site that post messages to you that have read the bible and just disagree with it. I have read the bible and there are great lessons in that text but there are also blatantly false facts that cannot be overlooked which is why you get the backlash when you proclaim it to be God's word.

    April 20, 2011 at 11:26 am |
    • Adelina

      GSA, I encountered paganisms and atheism firsthand and I learned about most religions. You secular Westerners are ignorant self-lovers who try to equate Christianity with everything less or empty. GSA, you think there are false facts because your reading was immature or you were too incompotent. What are those? Give me your own original findings, one at a time, not the list from your favorite authors' trash books. If your comment is too long, I may ignore it. Get a study Bible and read, really, for your own salvation and your own benefit. The Bible is literally incomparable. I don't mind backlashes. I just wanted Tom to know God loves him and His people care about him.

      April 20, 2011 at 10:51 pm |
  13. Burn the witch!

    Nail him to a cross! Scourgify him! Stab him with a spear! He's a criminal!

    April 20, 2011 at 2:15 am |
  14. Adelina

    @i wonder: Just read the Bible, starting from Gospels. You know it is from God. A study Bible is better if you care.

    April 20, 2011 at 1:30 am |
    • i wonder

      Adelina,

      You did not answer my question: How do you know that a god wrote the Bible?

      The Quran is supposedly the words of a god.

      The Bhagavad Gita is supposedly a god's words.

      The Book of Mormon too... and many others, which are less famous, make this claim.

      April 20, 2011 at 1:41 am |
    • Adelina

      @i wonder: the answer: The quality of the text, its complexity, its effect and fulfilled prophesies, among other reasons.

      April 20, 2011 at 1:50 am |
    • Andy

      Adelina.... that is proof of the Koran.... what is the proof of the bible?

      April 20, 2011 at 2:48 am |
    • Adelina

      Andy, talk with me after reading the Bible. Koran has no prophecy fulfilled. Your name Andy is from Andrew and find out why you are named after him by reading the Bible.

      April 20, 2011 at 3:11 am |
    • Andy

      Adelina....Read the Koran, it is full of prophecies fulfilled. I've read the Bible, Jesus was a false prophet.

      April 20, 2011 at 3:51 am |
    • HotAirAce

      @Adelina

      Please provide references to unambiguous and independently verified fulfilled bible prophecies. I don't think you can come up with even just one.

      April 20, 2011 at 4:06 am |
    • ScottK

      I think Adelina is experiencing what it's like to be a salesperson for the tailor who made the Emporer's new clothes. Kind of tough convincing people that you have the worlds finest clothing to sell them if they aren't allowed to see it, touch it or even smell it, they just have to take your word for it.

      April 20, 2011 at 6:03 pm |
    • Adelina

      @Andy, obviously you read neither. There is no prophecy fulfilled in Koran. You are not a Muslim. Stop pretending, you lying atheist. @HotAirAce, there are way too many fulfilled prophecies in the Bible. Read from the Gospel of Matthew. You will find dozens in the first chapter alone. You need to be familiar with the entire Bible to know that, though. Get a concordance. The Bible is not for academical sloth. @Scott, I'm not an atheist. Don't talk about your own philosophies. The Bible is proven to transform human lives for the thousands of years with now billions of adherents. Emperor's clothes = atheism. H. C. Andersen was a Christian.

      April 20, 2011 at 10:37 pm |
    • Know What

      Adelina,

      How convenient that Matthew (and the other gospel writers) just happened to have read & studied the OT... and then attributed those prophecies as being fulfilled by Jesus.

      April 20, 2011 at 10:51 pm |
    • Adelina

      @Know-What: How does one know if it's fulfillment unles he know the prophesies? And it's not one or two. There are more than 300 of them. Evidences are useles to your unwilling mind to admit facts. It's your personal choice, not lack of evidences. You don't believe because you don't want to.

      April 20, 2011 at 11:08 pm |
    • Know What

      Adelina,
      "And it's not one or two [prophecies]. There are more than 300 of them."

      I know... and Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Paul (or whoever wrote under those names) and even Jesus himself knew them too.

      April 20, 2011 at 11:33 pm |
    • Adelina

      @Know-What: As a human, Jesus could not have determined His place of birth or timing of His birth among many other things. Read the Book of Daniel, too.

      April 20, 2011 at 11:48 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      @Adelina

      As expected, you cannot "provide references to unambiguous and independently verified fulfilled bible prophecies." This is a simple request to backup a claim you made. You have no proof to support fulfilled prophecies just as you have no proof of god or your saviour. I believe you are a delusional liar.

      April 21, 2011 at 12:16 am |
    • Adelina

      @HotAirAce, there are waaay too many! I don't want to post like Reality and I don't have time for that. Don't be lazy. Start reading Matthew chapter 1. Don't let others do the work you are supposed to do. Questions are welcomed. One at a time.

      April 21, 2011 at 12:21 am |
    • Know What

      Adelina,
      "As a human, Jesus could not have determined His place of birth or timing of His birth among many other things."

      Was Jesus really born exactly when and where the NT says?

      Was Jesus an opportunist who knew that his stats generally fit the prophecies?

      There are just too many holes in these 'fulfillments'.

      April 21, 2011 at 12:24 am |
    • HotAirAce

      @Adelina

      I've read the bible and deemed it a piece of bad fiction. I do not read bad fiction more than once.

      I'm not asking for you to sunstantiate 300, not even 100, not even 10 – just give us a reference to 1 unambiguous and independently verified fulfilled bible prophecy. Again, I don't think you can do it and until you prove your claim, you are a liar, not to be believed about anything. Your choice – put up and live with being a proven liar.

      April 21, 2011 at 12:26 am |
    • Adelina

      @Know-What: Yes, NT is completely reli able. @HotAirAce: The prophecy Jesus would be born in Bethlehem: Compare Micah 5:2 (given 650-700 years before Jesus' birth) and Matthew chapter 2 and Luke chapter 2.

      April 21, 2011 at 12:39 am |
    • Adelina

      @KnowWhat: my longer comment to you got blocked. Answers for #1- Yes. #2 &3 – No. Be more specfic next time.

      April 21, 2011 at 12:42 am |
    • HotAirAce

      @Adelina

      Sorry, not good enough! As already pointed out, you are using one part of the bible to prove another part of the part of the bible. The writers of the NT knew what the OT prophecies were and had every opportunity to *claim* whatever they wanted. What non-biblical evidence do you have?

      April 21, 2011 at 12:52 am |
    • Adelina

      @HotAirAce, what literature or records or images did people have back 2,000 years ago? Did Americans prove Mr. Obama was born in American soil yet?

      April 21, 2011 at 12:56 am |
    • Know What

      Adelina,

      Listen, you are claiming the most earth-shaking, blockbuster event since the beginning of time - that this person was the living "God"! This "God", if all-knowing and all-powerful, as you claim, would have known that this evidence is poor and unacceptable and would have been able to do a better job of it.

      April 21, 2011 at 3:09 am |
    • Adelina

      @KnowWhat: God left more than enough evidences but filthy worshippers of self don't accept anything as a evidence anyway. Those who blantantly rejected God are only demons. Live humans still have a chance or time to repent and return to God. Jesus saves you.

      April 21, 2011 at 5:45 am |
    • Jdh

      Adelina – I HAVE read the bible. And while I think that some of it is beautiful or interesting, I also feel the same way about many other books. Doesn't mean the bible, or any of the other books I've read, are the word of god. Also, HotAirAce asked you to provide just ONE prophecy the bible predicted, just one, that can be independently verified. For instance, let's say Shakespeare wrote something, claiming that in the future, a giant of a man with a big blue ox would be chopping down trees in the new world. Well wouldn't you know it, several hundred years later, some one writes a story about Paul Bunyan. This does not mean that Shakespeare predicted Paul Bunyan, nor does it prove Paul Bunyan even existed. It is highly possible that someone in the 1800's read Shakespeare's writing about the Giant man with an ax, and decided to incorporate this into the story that is now Paul Bunyan. Can you understand this? That if the Old Testament said this and that about a messiah, then a few hundred years later, someone wanted to write about someone they thought was the messiah, and therefore they wrote down things that matched what the Old Testament said??

      April 22, 2011 at 1:54 pm |
    • Adelina

      @Jdh: A contem porary secular Roman docu ment and a Jewish rabbi testi fied Jesus was executed and it cor relates with Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53. The prophecies of Jesus fulfilled were too numerous that the chance of co incidence is 0. The Bible pre dicted a lot of nation's rises and falls and they came true. For example, Detailed prophesies of Cyrus the Persian king were given 150 years before his time. Detailed prophesies of Josiah the king of Judah were given 300 years before. And the formation of modern Israel. Biblical prophesies are just too massive. If you lack knowledge in other fields, you can't app reciate the Bible properly, let alone your lack of con centration.

      April 24, 2011 at 8:40 am |
    • Adelina

      @Jdn, Above, I had to separate a lot of vocab in order to dodge the moderation radar. I hope you can understand what I wrote regardless.

      April 24, 2011 at 8:42 am |
  15. Adelina

    Tom, do you do art? I wish I could show you my sunrise instead of my comments. It is God who put songs in human hearts(decent ones, not the noise of nowadays; humans corrupt everything), Tom! You don't like any of my comments anyway.

    April 20, 2011 at 1:26 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      If you think God created music, you're too stupid to bother with.

      April 20, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
  16. Adelina

    @Tom: on your second question: It means God requires justice to be served. Perfectly.
    @Tom: on your third question: Just read through the Gospels. ( And stop pretending you read already since you don't remember a thing from it if you think you had read it.) You'll know it's God's own testimony. There are enough scholarly evidences that the NT Bible books are written by eyewitnesses of Jesus.

    April 20, 2011 at 1:19 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, I'm not 'reading through' anything. Answer the question or admit you can't, you fraud.

      April 20, 2011 at 9:01 pm |
    • Tom Piper'Sr

      That's right son, not reading is the best excuse if you don't know how to read.

      April 22, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
  17. Adelina

    @Tom: Pain and death are result of sins, but they also draw us to find the truth – about life, about ourselves, about cosmos and about God. Pain is a teacher, a gift and can be a real blessing. We find our true human-ness through it all. Of course there are innocent victims but you must trust God for them, seeing how so far He operated the universe and our lives. The time is coming when He will end the order of all these old things – sin, pain, suffering, hatred, filth, death and all. But you must believe in His provision of salvation in this present life – Jesus. Accepting Jesus is equal to aknowledging God as a creature should.

    April 20, 2011 at 1:13 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, stick it up your fundament, you cow. Talk to me after you suffer.

      Azzhole.

      April 20, 2011 at 9:02 pm |
    • Sprinkle

      To go to this extra-extreme to re-enact the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, makes his sacrifice in vain. He hung on the cross, so that we would not have to (gentiles). We are saved by grace. This is so misguided; however, it is not the first time a socio-path gathered followers, and had them to mindlessly to weird stuff. And no the followers get caught up, not knowing they following the thinking of a twisted, mad mind.

      April 21, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
    • Tom Piper'Sr

      From "plant" to a "cow'. Perhaps you might say next that Adelina is eating herself. Tsk! Tsk! ou're getting worst son, you should stop inhaling solvent and should try white cement instead.

      April 22, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
    • Adelina

      Again, it's Christianity which rescued pagans from regular exercises of cannibalism.

      April 24, 2011 at 8:29 am |
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