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April 26th, 2011
09:41 AM ET

Religion, race could influence end-of-life spending, study shows

Imagine you’re in the hospital with cancer. Would you rather spend everything you have to potentially live longer, or just forgo the costly medical treatment? Your answer to that question might be influenced by your race.

A study published Tuesday in the journal Cancer finds that 80% of African Americans were willing to spend all their resources to extend life, but for white people the number is just 54%.

Differences in religious belief can be subtle, but significant to the findings. When asked how much longer they think they have to live, patients picked one of these four answers: less than five years, more than five years, “I don’t know,” and “In God’s hands.”

Those who answered “In God’s hands” were by far the most likely to exhaust finances on life-prolonging treatment. However, even within this group of religious individuals willing to spend more on treatment – blacks were still more likely than whites to spend.

Read more about the study on CNN's health blog, The Chart

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Death • Faith & Health

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  1. Hilary

    Did the study control for income?

    May 21, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
  2. mehmet

    Qur'an is saying in the face of rebellious man's denials, who is as though challenging the Qur'an by saying, Who will raise to life rotten bones?, "Whoever created them in the first place, He will raise them to life. And that Creator knows every single thing in every aspect of its being. Furthermore, He who provides fire for you from the green tree, is able to give life to dry bones." Thus, this sentence looks in numerous ways to the assertion that man will raised to life and proves it.

    Firstly, with these words the Qur'an starts the chain of bounties it lays before man, moves its forward, and calls it to mind. Since it describes it in detail in other verses, it cuts short the description here, and refers it to the reason. That is, you cannot flee from the One Who gives you fruit and fire from trees, sustenance and seeds from plants, cereals and grains from the earth, and also makes the earth a fine cradle for you filled with all your sustenance, and the world a palace in which is found all your needs – you cannot be independent of Him, nor go to non-existence and hide there. You cannot be without duties and enter the grave to sleep in comfort not to be awoken.

    Then it points out one evidence of this assertion. With the words, the green tree, it implies: "Oh you who deny resurrection! Look at the trees! One Who raises to life and makes green in spring numberless trees which are dead in winter and like bones, and in each single tree even shows three examples of resurrection through the leaves, blossoms, and fruit – the Power of such a One cannot be challenged with denial or considering resurrection improbable."

    Then it points out another evidence, saying: "How do you deem it unlikely that One Who extracts for you out of dense, heavy, dark matter like a tree, subtle, light, luminous manner like fire should give life like fire and consciousness like light to bones which are like wood?"

    Then it states another evidence explicitly; it says: "One Who creates the famous tree which, while green produces fire for nomads in place of matches when two of its branches are rubbed together, and combines two opposites like the green and damp and the dry and hot, and makes them the source of the fire – everything, even the fundamental elements, looks to His command and acts through His power. It cannot be considered unlikely of the One Who demonstrates that none of these is independent and acts of its own accord that He should raise man from the earth once again, who was made from earth and later returned to the earth. He may not be challenged with rebellion."

    Then, through recalling Moses's (Upon whom be peace) famous tree, it shows that this claim of Muhammed's (Upon whom be blessings and peace) is also that of Moses (Upon whom be peace). Lightly alluding to the consensus of the prophets, it adds one subtle point more to the phrase.

    April 27, 2011 at 2:42 am |
    • HeavenSent

      mehment, the Quran claims to be an additional revelation from God brought through one man, Muhammad (S.53, A.5-18; see also 48:29). In this additional revelation, the Quran confirms the truth of the Bible. The Quran pronounces the Jewish Scriptures and the gospel of Jesus Islam is the religion of the Quran (or Koran), and in Arabic Islam means "submission to his [Allah's] will" (S.3, A.19). A Muslim is one who is a believer in this religion (e.g. S.33, A.35). Their prophet's name is Muhammad (570-632 AD), and he proclaimed himself to be the "Seal of the Prophets," i.e., the last prophet (S.33, A.40; see also footnote #3731 for this verse, p.1255-1256). The Quran proclaims him to have been "unlettered" (S.7, A.157-158).Christ as truth from Allah.

      Therefore, you should be reading the Bible to love and follow Jesus Christ. You can start with Hosea 14, pay close attention to verse 8 who is a green fir tree. Ever green and ever lasting is Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

      Amen.

      Amen.

      April 27, 2011 at 9:05 am |
    • Rogue

      @HeavenSent – I like your post but only because you are kicking him in the nuts and saving us all the trouble of looking up that crazy talk to throw back in his face. 😛

      April 28, 2011 at 3:41 am |
  3. tallulah13

    Both my parents died of lingering terminal illness. Where their money was spent was up to them and only them. Both of them held out as long as they could, because they loved their lives, but in the end each said that they were ready to go.

    End of life decisions are personal and should be respected, even if an individual decides that their terminal illness is intolerable and chooses to end their life. I feel lucky that I live in a state where people are allowed that right. Not many people use it, but many have stated (before they died) that it was comforting to know they had the option.

    April 27, 2011 at 12:40 am |
    • HeavenSent

      tallulah13, I am sorry for your loss. Rest assure that your parents are back with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

      Ecclesiastes 12:5 Also [when] they shall be afraid of [that which is] high, and fears [shall be] in the way, and the almond tree shall flourish, and the grasshopper shall be a burden, and desire shall fail: because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets:

      Ecclesiastes 12:6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.

      Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

      God Bless You.

      Amen.

      April 27, 2011 at 9:10 am |
  4. specialadi

    I found this on a blog what do you think:The Inheritance by Bishop Harold Dawson, Sr. Why are black men missing from the church and family? What is the inheritance God has appointed for Hamitic people? Can the black church change the moral climate of the black community? In The Inheritance, Bishop Harold Dawson dares to think outside the box and challenges the church to address long-standing issues in the black community. Is the black community willing to do what it will take to save black men and the black family?

    April 27, 2011 at 12:05 am |
    • HeavenSent

      I know more black folks (men/women, young and old) that are Christians that love and follow Jesus' truth than I can count. I wished more folks believed in Jesus, raised their children and their children's children to love and follow Jesus the way the black community loves Jesus.

      Amen.

      April 27, 2011 at 8:50 am |
  5. David Johnson

    Believers:

    Why do you spend any money on medical care? You have the promise of god:

    Mark 11:24: Jesus speaking
    Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

    John 14:14: Jesus speaking
    If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.

    Mark 16: Jesus speaking
    16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.

    James 5:15:
    And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up.

    All you Christians babble on about faith and belief and how the bible is the word of god.

    Some, have actually believed this. They prayed for their child. The child died. OOOooopsie!

    A true believer should never set foot in a doctor's office!

    But, you do. You seek medical care, because you don't believe the bible. If you can't believe the bible about healing, how can you believe it about all the rest? LOL

    Okay, I know you will use Theological Gymnastics to reconcile this. But, the bible says what it says. It is what it is.

    Cheers!

    April 26, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      So God cannot use doctors? Afterall where did that wisdom come from? I would then guess you want to us stop working and making money too, right? You forget one thing David, WISDOM! Is it a gift from God! So I feel no guilt when I go to a doctor! That ALL you got? WISDOM, David!

      April 26, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @David
      I knew a young man who suffered a degenrative eye disease.
      All throughout his life, his parents made him believe that God was punishing him for his sins and if he would only pray hard enough, he would be miraculously cured.
      He is, of course, completely blind now and believes it to be his fault.
      What kind of parents would do that to their child?
      I guess the same kind that would refuse their dying child a blood transfusion.
      Only the devoutly religious.

      April 26, 2011 at 4:16 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Doc Vestibule

      @David
      I knew a young man who suffered a degenrative eye disease.
      All throughout his life, his parents made him believe that God was punishing him for his sins and if he would only pray hard enough, he would be miraculously cured.
      He is, of course, completely blind now and believes it to be his fault.
      What kind of parents would do that to their child?
      I guess the same kind that would refuse their dying child a blood transfusion.
      Only the devoutly religious.
      ------–
      Sorry to hear that but understand that is not EVERYBODY, that is NOT all Christians. There is rank ignorance in the ranks of those who believe and those who don't. You should know that!

      April 26, 2011 at 4:25 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Now you are attempting to give spiritual advice to Christians! You cannot give what you don't have David!

      April 26, 2011 at 4:26 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      David Johnson, Luke was a physician. Therefore, what's your point?

      Amen.

      April 27, 2011 at 8:45 am |
    • David Johnson

      @Steve (the real one)

      You babbled: "So God cannot use doctors? Afterall where did that wisdom come from? I would then guess you want to us stop working and making money too, right? You forget one thing David, WISDOM! Is it a gift from God! So I feel no guilt when I go to a doctor! That ALL you got? WISDOM, David!"

      An Omnipotent god, if He existed, would not need doctors. He would just heal. The bible doesn't say god will heal through doctors. In none of the passages I quoted, does it mention a need for a doctor. All you need is faith, no larger than a mustard seed. LOL, 'till my sides ache.

      You go to the doctor, because you know the bible is B.S. You know prayer does not work. One shot of antibiotic, is better than all the Evangelical prayers ever prayed, for curing an infection. You know it, and I know it.

      I think the appropriate word might be "knowledge" rather than wisdom.

      Knowledge – Information and skills acquired through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject.

      Man gained his knowledge, over time, through hard work. If god were responsible, why did he wait so long to give medical knowledge? Why doesn't He give a cure for AIDS or cancer?

      Why did God create all the horrid things that harm humans to begin with? All the germs and viruses and parasites...All part of god's creation. ?

      Look back through history. Man's knowledge was acquired over time. Man developed a vaccine for Smallpox. 300 to 500 million people died from Smallpox in the 20th century. If god gave man this knowledge, or allowed man this knowledge, why didn't He give it in time to save these people's lives?

      April 27, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      1 John 2:15-17

      15 Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
      16 For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
      17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

      Amen.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:23 am |
  6. Reality

    Depends on the level of pain. If too high, bring on the morphine drip and go out on a high note. And maybe you get lucky and there really is a spirit state called Heaven.

    April 26, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Yes, Reality. Paradise is there for you too. It's what side of the gulf (divide) you make it on. Therefore, I'd repent if I were you. Ask Jesus to forgive you of all your sins, including the big faux pas you do copying and pasting on this site to mislead people away from Him because you are following in the line of phony preachers that prevent His sheep from hearing His truth and preachers are the first ones to be judged by Jesus.

      Amen.

      April 27, 2011 at 8:42 am |
  7. Rogue

    Well of course religion will distort anything it touches, and this includes spending, of course.
    To say race has anything to do with it is BS. It is the ethnic cultures that influence members rather than their skin color, any genetic differences would be in the brain structures and how well they were developed and influenced by their environment.
    "Race" is distractingly simplistic. And statistics do not examine each case, but "whitewash" (no pun intended) the results to give a false impression that avoids attention to important details and should be viewed accordingly.

    April 26, 2011 at 10:16 am |
    • HeavenSent

      If they keep spewing their nonsense long enough, some folks will bite into it.

      Amen.

      April 26, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
    • Peter F

      I think you're confusing "religion" with "humankind"

      April 26, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
    • Liz

      "If they keep spewing their nonsense long enough, some folks will bite into it."

      Yes, the Christians are living proof of that!

      April 27, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Liz, ditto for non-believers as you all act like you were cut from a cookie cutter.

      Amen.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:56 am |
  8. Tonlok

    @Susan
    "The United States and Canada were birthed and grown from a Biblical perspective."

    I guess the four-father idea for the seperation of church and state was just a ruse?

    April 26, 2011 at 10:11 am |
    • HeavenSent

      It's about time you knew it was a ruse.

      Amen.

      April 26, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
    • Jason the Pendleton Rat

      LOL. I had some FOREfathers. You only had 4 fathers ? Hahaha.

      April 26, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
  9. Adelina

    What about Asians and Arabs? The conclusion of this article is too simple AND American as usual. Sigh. I hope Americans remember the Chinese exist on earth as well. At least sometimes, you know.

    April 26, 2011 at 10:00 am |
  10. Susan

    The United States is now showing the colour of it's belief system. By colour, I mean, lack thereof. To allow Franklin Graham 15 seconds on CNN this morning, on a topic only someone with his background, experience and spiritual revelation could answer, is completely out of line. To hear the weak arguments for and against Christianity brought forth today cannot possibly be an indication of the North American belief system! To serve up pablum to the public instead of the real food they need is a crime. I realize I am speaking to the anti Christ spirit, however, the word of God never returns void. Jesus is alive and well in North America. The United States and Canada were birthed and grown from a Biblical perspective. Being indifferent to this and to God, will only destroy the roots and ultimately the tree. Apathy or misunderstanding of who God is to us, is no excuse. Crediting God with confusion, disaster, and disease will not enlighten the masses. He died for all of these things to be eradicated by faith. Turning your back on the Cross of Christ and all that it represents will bring disaster, failure and poverty. Reaping and Sowing will come into play. You do have your own free will and you do live on a "fallen planet". Your only hope is God. Your only way out is to Trust in God.

    April 26, 2011 at 9:55 am |
    • Rogue

      @Susan – You make it sound like your "god" is going to give everyone money if they just "believe", yet you are speaking to a country where the rich get richer and the poor are getting poorer because of how our society functions, not because of what "god" they believe in!
      And you are required to follow secular law, not your religious nonsense in this country, thankfully. It's what gives you the ability to act irrationally like you're doing now. It's called "freedom of religious expression", yet you cannot murder, etc, as a way of expressing your religion here. There are secular limits on your religion.
      With no limits, anything goes, including murder. Don't go there.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:29 am |
  11. Doc Vestibule

    I've always wondered why somebody who believes that they're bound for an eternity of bliss would take extreme (and often bank-breaking) measures to prolong their earthly existence.
    It makes on suspect that the believer doubts their chances of getting into heaven.

    April 26, 2011 at 9:51 am |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Because they are human! They have families that wil be hurt and will miss them. They won't get to see children grow up or walk the daughters down the aisle or not see grandchildren graduate college. In short because they are human! Even Jesus struggled with His impending death From Matthew 26:

      36 Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to them, "Sit here while I go over there and pray."
      37 He took Peter and the two sons of Zebedee along with him, and he began to be sorrowful and troubled.
      38 Then he said to them, "My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me."
      39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."
      40 Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. "Could you men not keep watch with me for one hour?" he asked Peter.
      41 "Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak."
      42 He went away a second time and prayed, "My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done."

      He prayed twice asking if there was another way to redeem mankind without dying! He was human! There was no other way! He still struggles with death like we all do! I hope that helped!

      April 26, 2011 at 10:01 am |
    • Adelina

      Doc, Christians do our best to prolong life. We are not like atheists. We don't slaughter babies in the womb or any humans who are considered inferior like Darwinians did.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:02 am |
    • Steve (the real one)

      ***Make that "Struggled" and not struggles with death.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:04 am |
    • Mjollnir

      @Adelina: Er...what? You're joking right? Christians get abortions all the time. Not those who closely follow the beliefs, but many who identify as Christians do. And Christians don't slaughter humans who are considered inferior? Where to begin with that! Crusades, Inquisitions, subjugation of entire races...just what world are you living in?

      April 26, 2011 at 10:24 am |
    • Inspector Clouseau

      Exactly. Thank you.
      In a society where increasingly the implied and accepted Promised Land, (heaven) is Beverly Hills, and there is unspoken resentment that the "whole thing" (which is supposed to be "eternal" once you "get there"), is about to end, the author misses the point in the first sentence. It's not about spending " all YOUR resources", it's about spending all THEIR resources.
      You are free to spend all YOUR resourses, not free to spend all OUR resourses.
      We can't afford to continue this useless spending. There are so many examples of esentially useless and wasteful care and procedures that are done for the terminally ill, demanded by families, who are medically ignorant, who insist "do everything" I can't even begin to start with that list. Do you know how many billions of US dollars are spent each year on chronic dialysis for brain dead people ? It would be instructive to check on that.
      As a physician, I was amazed once to be standing in the middle of our CCU (with a friend from Ireland), and he said, "you know, every single one of these 16 folks, (who were all 85 or over), would not be in a Critical Care unit in Europe. The cultural patterns of the "denial of death" permeate this (unbelieving) culture, including health care, and have serious bankrupting outcomes.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:28 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Adelina
      You're conflating evolution with eugenics.
      And plenty of Christians have slaughtered those who they consider "heathens".
      Before you again try to conflate atheism with communism, dictators like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot did NOT execute anyone in the name of Atheism. Those governments were cults of personality. The leaders didn't raise a flag of atheism for their followers to rally around.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:30 am |
    • Rogue

      @Mjollnir – Adelina is posting from an Asian country, probably China. She is obviously insane, as you might expect from a "Christian" living over there.
      China's mistake in dealing with religious nuts is that they do nothing for the mental health of these obviously insane people but only oppress them.
      That's because their politics are insane and run in an extremist fashion.
      Money is taking care of that as we speak. All those guys with money over there are finding it more fun to spend on selfish pleasures than to help the people of their country.
      They, too, will seek to prolong life. Selfishness is a constant of human life. Their ideology does not address it intelligently.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:38 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Adelina
      I posted this to you a week or two ago, but never received reply.
      I again offer it for your consideration.

      I can appreciate how you would come to Christ if the people who showed you and your kin such compas.sion held the Bible up as their motivation for selflessness.
      But there are many people who live lives of charity, compas.sion and humility without touting their religious affiliations.
      This is why the symbol of The Red Cross, unlike the crucifix, is respected the world over.
      As an example:
      In the mountain that divides Turkey and Iraq there was an encampment of 160,000 Kurdish refugees in 1991. They fled Iraq and crossed into Turkey to escape the revenge of Saddam. A team of 6 medics were overwhelmed by the desolation. They set up a tent and said they would provide medical aid to children under one year of age. The infants were dying of dehydration. The water was foul causing nausea and diar.rhea and thus dehydration. They could not rehydrate them. Water by mouth caused the children to choke. IVs were useless as the kids were so terribly dehydrated, no viable veins could be found. Thanks to largely American military efforts they were able to bring in oral rehydration salts to add to clean water dropped by air...they immunized every child under 5 yrs against measles which is the biggest killer in these circu.mstances.
      All of this was done by a handful of brave humanitarians who dedicated their lives to helping the victims of war – not because of religion, but because human suffering is abhorrent to them.
      It was religious persecution that was killing those children and secular medics who saved them.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:46 am |
    • Buckminster Fullerene

      @Steve,
      The problem is divine beings do not struggle. So either ...... oh never mind.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:49 am |
    • Blake, da Bozo

      Why is this surprising ? We can't even say, in this country, "he's DEAD". We have to say, "oh he passed, you know". Fact is this self congratulating "christian nation" in the end, believes nothing.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:59 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Steve (the real one)
      Thank you for the polite, reasoned response.
      Fear of death is indeed universal, which is why most religions capitalize on our mortality by presenting the "facts" of what happens post-mortem.

      April 26, 2011 at 11:01 am |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Doc Vestibule

      @Steve (the real one)
      Thank you for the polite, reasoned response.
      Fear of death is indeed universal, which is why most religions capitalize on our mortality by presenting the "facts" of what happens post-mortem.
      ------
      No problem Doc have a great day!

      April 26, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Buckminster Fullerene
      @Steve,
      The problem is divine beings do not struggle. So either ...... oh never mind.
      ------–
      Your "oh never mind" was timely! Read the verses I provided! Read the prayer he prayed twice! Yes he was and is divine! Yes he was human, yes he experienced the pain of death, the pain of betrayal. Yes, it breaks His heart when the lost perish. He has experienced death, he has experience seperation from God the Father. Your "oh never mind" was truely timely!

      April 26, 2011 at 11:09 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Doc, I believe that most people (believers or not) are willing to go back to the Lord when they know their life is complete and in order. If not, that's when a person fights to ensure everything is complete before they go back to God.

      Amen.

      April 26, 2011 at 11:55 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Blake, Christians use the correct terminology that the person has passed on. We speak of Jesus' truth that our soul goes back to Him who created ALL and that we will dwell with Him for eternity for those that love and follow His truth about life and the hereafter. Maybe you non-believers know your souls will be going to the eternal flames, blotted out. No eternity for any of you if you don't repent and ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins and sin no more.

      Amen.

      April 26, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Mjollnir, you non-believers are such hypocrites regarding this rant of yours about the Crusades, the Inquisition, etc. If you weren't on the winning team (Christians) then you would not be one of the victors to have your offsprings flourish to this day to write the babble nonsense that you spew.

      Amen.

      April 26, 2011 at 12:12 pm |
    • Squeezebox

      I'd rather deal with someone who has a (normal) fear of death than somebody who's absolutley convinced that by mudering themselves and others that they will automatically go to paradise!

      April 26, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Steve (the real one)

      Hey -Steve...

      You Said in response to @Doc Vestibule's posting: "Because they are human! They have families that will be hurt and will miss them. They won't get to see children grow up or walk the daughters down the aisle or not see grandchildren graduate college. In short because they are human!"

      Nice post that, I believe, 'everyone' (pretty-much) regardless of belief or non-belief can understand, and most likely *agree* with.

      Respectfully,

      Peace...

      April 26, 2011 at 9:42 pm |
    • Buckminster Fullerene

      @Adelina,
      Huh ? Name one "Darwinian" that slaughtered inferior anything,
      I think you sound like an amateur wannabe, who keeps talking because it like the sound of it's own voice.

      April 27, 2011 at 1:21 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Squeezebox, you wrote "I'd rather deal with someone who has a (normal) fear of death than somebody who's absolutley convinced that by mudering themselves and others that they will automatically go to paradise!"

      Answer: Everyone goes to paradise when they die. However, it depends on what side of the gulf (divide) are they on when they get there? If, after the Day of the Lord, they still do not love and follow Jesus, then those are the ones that go to the eternal flames, blotted out. No eternity for them.

      Jesus told us, there is no forgiveness for murderers on earth. That we are to send murderers back to Him for His judgment.

      Amen.

      April 27, 2011 at 8:19 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Squeezebox, that's pertaining to pre-meditated murder.

      Amen.

      April 27, 2011 at 8:21 am |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Peace2All
      @Steve (the real one)
      Hey -Steve...
      You Said in response to @Doc Vestibule's posting: "Because they are human! They have families that will be hurt and will miss them. They won't get to see children grow up or walk the daughters down the aisle or not see grandchildren graduate college. In short because they are human!"
      Nice post that, I believe, 'everyone' (pretty-much) regardless of belief or non-belief can understand, and most likely *agree* with. Respectfully, Peace...
      ------
      Thank you Peace. I hope you are doing well! Good to hear from you

      April 27, 2011 at 9:00 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Steve(the real one)

      Hey -Steve... I'm doing quite well. Thank you for asking.

      I do hope that you come back to this article/thread, as I do have an 'add-on' question for you that I'm curious to hear your opinion on:

      While, your answer of ..."They are Christians, and they are human and care about life, etc..."(paraphrasing here), I'm still trying to figure out 'why' the 'believers' in general still try to hang on and attempt what the article states as 'excessive' measures to prolong life, vs. others...? In the article, there is a definite break-down statistically concerning 'race,' but, I thought you might have additional thoughts to this.

      As we are 'all' human... believers and... non-believers and everything in between who care about 'living and life.'

      Again, if you make it back here, I'm curious to your opinion.

      Respectfully,

      Peace...

      April 27, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Peace2All
      Hey -Steve... I'm doing quite well. Thank you for asking. I do hope that you come back to this article/thread, as I do have an 'add-on' question for you that I'm curious to hear your opinion on: While, your answer of ..."They are Christians, and they are human and care about life, etc..."(paraphrasing here), I'm still trying to figure out 'why' the 'believers' in general still try to hang on and attempt what the article states as 'excessive' measures to prolong life, vs. others...? In the article, there is a definite break-down statistically concerning 'race,' but, I thought you might have additional thoughts to this.
      -----–
      Hello Peace. I can honesty tell you that I have no idea why . It would be very easy for me to say I would not "go out like that manner" just to hang on. I truly hope that I wouldn't but I have not been to the point where I had to make that decision while under duress. I have no answer about the results of that study. I am not about to judge those that do. No one has ever told me I have months to live. How would I act? I don't know! All I can do is tell you how I would hope I would act but that is based on me right now and while under no such duress!

      April 27, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Steve(the real one)

      Hey Steve...thanks for your honesty, as I don't know either. I guess it's a question for everyone.

      Hmmmmm..... Interesting, I think, yes...?

      Peace...

      April 27, 2011 at 5:42 pm |
    • Taro

      @Mjollnir – The Crusades were a response to 400 years of Muslim invasion, atrocities, murder of Christians and Jews, and seizures and destruction of Christian churches and holy sites. It's funny how you guys always seem to forget the details when it comes to the Crusades. The Crusades were so insignificant, that Islam did not even record their occurrence, and Muslims were unaware of them until reminded by western historians about 100 years ago. Read a book. You find them in libraries.

      April 28, 2011 at 6:26 am |
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