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Peruvian president calls bin Laden killing miracle from Pope John Paul II
Peruvian President Alan Garcia in Colombia in March 2011
May 2nd, 2011
06:39 PM ET

Peruvian president calls bin Laden killing miracle from Pope John Paul II

(CNN) - While many world leaders praised the U.S. killing of Osama bin Laden, the president of Peru went a step further on Monday, calling the development the first miracle of Pope John Paul II since he was beatified last weekend.

“I have said that his first miracle has been to remove from the Earth this demonic incarnation of crime, evil and hatred,” Peruvian president Alan Garcia said, according to CNN affiliate America TV in Peru.

“And I think that’s great news that should please Mr. Obama,” Garcia went on, referring to the U.S. president. “In some way, it also vindicates (former) President George W. Bush who made the decision to punish bin Laden and to patiently continue this work that is finally bearing fruit.”

Pope John Paul II, who died in April 2005, was beatified in Rome on Sunday, hours before Obama announced that bin Laden had been killed in Pakistan by U.S. Special Forces.

Beatification is the last step before sainthood and requires someone to have performed one miracle after his or her death. Sainthood requires the church to confirm a second miracle.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Americas • Catholic Church • Osama bin Laden • Peru • Pope John Paul II

soundoff (223 Responses)
  1. Mario

    I am saved too! Blessings to all of God's children on here, denounce this heresy pls. Do not stop sisters and brothers.

    May 3, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
  2. Mario

    Only in religious Catholic latin America could some distorted totally crazy comment like this be broadcast. This is what God's enemy does, take the glory and tie it to a dead most sinful not saint but heretic. The only purpose for this is to apeace the Peruvians into believing more lies.

    May 3, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
  3. Let God be TRUE

    "The Earth is the Lord's and the FULLNESS thereof."
    "Verily I say to you that those who live by the sword shall die by it."
    By the way...did prior Pope seem more personable to anyone. This new one seems like a stick in the mud.

    May 3, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
  4. Jose Sanchez

    God let 9/11 happen so he could take credit for killing Bin Laden?

    May 3, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
  5. A barber

    I thought a miracle was an act of God of some sort, yes? I do not believe that a SEAL shooting OBL in the face is a miracle, just good training. Guess Garcia just needed to be in the news for something, pretty sure the Catholic Church confirms its own miracles though Garcy, sorry!

    May 3, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
    • I'm saved

      Well said

      May 3, 2011 at 12:29 pm |
    • I'm saved

      Besides we all know the catholics are heathens so saith the true prophet Reality on the very blog

      May 3, 2011 at 12:41 pm |
  6. TV_Preacher

    Dear Saint John Paul: Won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz?

    May 3, 2011 at 11:50 am |
  7. TV_Preacher

    Yeah, I'll go along with that. Considering John Paul II's willingness to move pedophile priests out of harms way when the cops show up, I suppose he has a few miracles to make before St. Peter lets him through the gates.

    May 3, 2011 at 11:14 am |
  8. Rainer Braendlein

    Sorry for a third comment.

    Believe it or not, today some minutes before I clicked on the CNN blog I had the following thought: maybe any bad guy will have the idea to claim the bin Laden killing would have been a miracle of John Paul II. Because of the fact that both events (bin Laden killing and beatifcation of John Paul II) occured near-tearm, I reasoned that this incident will happen. Sometimes the way of the nasty are too obvious. May the whole world realize that Jesus Christ reigns and that the authorities are just His tools.

    http://www.confessingchurch.wordpress.com

    May 3, 2011 at 10:39 am |
  9. rainer braendlein

    Of course the killing of Osama bin Laden was not a miracle of Pope John Paul II, but a "miracle" of Jesus Christ, who used the higher powers of the USA to liquidate one of the most dangerous enemies of mankind beside the pope. Bin Laden killed people, the pope kills souls. I wish that the pope becomes a true christian. May he have a long life. We really live in a free world, allowing the pope to tell people most perverse Rubbish.

    May 3, 2011 at 9:26 am |
  10. ALEXANDER

    you can't credit the killing of bin laden to pope john paul. he doesn't have power over life nor death or has he become the Almighty God through this ceremony held on Sunday? And if the Pope is a "Saint" would he not pray for justice and not more violence as this killing might spark more terror as the US nation and some others celebrate this "victory"? Don't repay evil with evil...pray brothers and sisters for peace.

    May 3, 2011 at 8:34 am |
    • PeterVN

      because we know how much effect prayer has ever had: absolutely none (other than keeping a lot of idiots occupied for a while, and a few other non-divine side effects)

      May 3, 2011 at 10:01 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      Dear Alexander,

      the authorities of every state are not only allowed, but even obliged to fight against criminals, this is there core task. A second task for them it would be to reward devote christians. The work of the authorities has a big benefit for us: We can live in security. It is not natural that you can sit at home, watching television, without being disturbed or harmed by someone. This is the merit of the authorities.

      Wish you well,
      Rainer

      May 3, 2011 at 10:11 am |
  11. John Richardson

    If credit is to be claimed it is to be claimed by the people here on earth who directed the operation but even more so by the guys who risked their lives carrying out the mission.

    May 3, 2011 at 8:17 am |
  12. Colin

    Twit

    May 3, 2011 at 8:11 am |
  13. Alan

    Riiiight. Because the implication that John Paul II is directing politically-motivated violent assassination from beyond the grave isn't offensive at all. What was this clown thinking?

    May 3, 2011 at 7:56 am |
    • Ed

      thinking is obviously not one of his strengths

      May 3, 2011 at 11:03 am |
  14. Reality

    Ending most religions as we currently know them in less than 100 words:

    Saving 1.5 billion lost Muslims:
    There never was and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no Islam and therefore no more koranic-driven acts of horror and terror

    Saving 2 billion lost Christians:
    There was and never will be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no Christianity and no miracles.

    Saving 15.5 million Orthodox followers of Judaism:
    Abraham and Moses never existed.

    Added details upon request.--------------------------

    May 3, 2011 at 7:32 am |
    • I'm saved

      Wow I read that I feel better all ready. EVERYONE REALITY IS THE NEXT GREAT PROPHET. Repent your religious ways and follow the prophets rituals and you will be saved just like me.

      May 3, 2011 at 11:02 am |
    • Peter F

      I wonder how he knows these people never existed. Takes a lot of FAITH to make a claim like that... *hint hint*

      May 3, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • I'm saved

      No Peter F I followed all of the great prophets rituals and have been saved from my religious ways. The prophet is great. Reality has shown us the way of cut and paste. Reality is the prophet. You must repent follow the prophet to be saved. Reality's rituals are the way repent sinner and be saved by the prophet reality, repent, repent

      May 3, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • ur daddy

      sad how ignorant u r , people like u shouldnt comment on anything.......

      May 3, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
    • I'm saved

      oh please great prophet reality give us the details. we need your wisdom no more than ever.

      May 3, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
    • birkie

      I don't have an issue believing that Abraham and Moses were real- I think your 100 words or less essay is brilliant and written from the perspective of one, like myself, that came OUT from the religious slavery that they were born into. FREE AT LAST! FREE AT LAST! THANK HUMAN INTELLECT ALMIGHTY, WE ARE FREE AT LAST!

      May 3, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • I'm saved

      Yes another convert to the prophet Reality. Thank the prophet

      May 3, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
    • Reality

      origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

      "New Torah For Modern Minds

      Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions - the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years - have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity - until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine doc-ument.

      "When I grew up in Brooklyn, congregants were not sophisticated about anything," said Rabbi Harold Kushner, the author of "When Bad Things Happen to Good People" and a co-editor of the new book. "Today, they are very sophisticated and well read about psychology, literature and history, but they are locked in a childish version of the Bible."

      "Etz Hayim," compiled by David Lieber of the University of Judaism in Los Angeles, seeks to change that. It offers the standard Hebrew text, a parallel English translation (edited by Chaim Potok, best known as the author of "The Chosen"), a page-by-page exegesis, periodic commentaries on Jewish practice and, at the end, 41 essays by prominent rabbis and scholars on topics ranging from the Torah scroll and dietary laws to ecology and eschatology.

      These essays, perused during uninspired sermons or Torah readings at Sabbath services, will no doubt surprise many congregants. For instance, an essay on Ancient Near Eastern Mythology," by Robert Wexler, president of the University of Judaism in Los Angeles, states that on the basis of modern scholarship, it seems unlikely that the story of Genesis originated in Palestine. More likely, Mr. Wexler says, it arose in Mesopotamia, the influence of which is most apparent in the story of the Flood, which probably grew out of the periodic overflowing of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. The story of Noah, Mr. Wexler adds, was probably borrowed from the Mesopotamian epic Gilgamesh.

      Equally striking for many readers will be the essay "Biblical Archaeology," by Lee I. Levine, a professor at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. "There is no reference in Egyptian sources to Israel's sojourn in that country," he writes, "and the evidence that does exist is negligible and indirect." The few indirect pieces of evidence, like the use of Egyptian names, he adds, "are far from adequate to corroborate the historicity of the biblical account."

      Similarly ambiguous, Mr. Levine writes, is the evidence of the conquest and settlement of Canaan, the ancient name for the area including Israel. Excavations showing that Jericho was unwalled and uninhabited, he says, "clearly seem to contradict the violent and complete conquest portrayed in the Book of Joshua." What's more, he says, there is an "almost total absence of archaeological evidence" backing up the Bible's grand descriptions of the Jerusalem of David and Solomon.

      The notion that the Bible is not literally true "is more or less settled and understood among most Conservative rabbis," observed David Wolpe, a rabbi at Sinai Temple in Los Angeles and a contributor to "Etz Hayim." But some congregants, he said, "may not like the stark airing of it." Last Passover, in a sermon to 2,200 congregants at his synagogue, Rabbi Wolpe frankly said that "virtually every modern archaeologist" agrees "that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way that it happened, if it happened at all." The rabbi offered what he called a "litany of disillusion" about the narrative, including contradictions, improbabilities, chronological lapses and the absence of corroborating evidence. In fact, he said, archaeologists digging in the Sinai have "found no trace of the tribes of Israel - not one shard of pottery."

      May 3, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
    • I'm saved

      thank you prophet for saving us religious heathens with your words of wisdom. ALL HAIL THE PROHET REALITY!

      May 3, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
    • Reality

      The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians during the past 200 years)

      I might believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven.

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
      and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen

      May 3, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
    • I'm saved

      thank you oh great prophet for our creed that yui have given us. ALL HAIL THE PROPHET REALITY!

      May 3, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Your time is better served working on getting the 1 Reality saved! Added details upon YOUR request!

      May 3, 2011 at 4:24 pm |
    • I'm saved

      Do not blasphemy the prophet lest he smite you. ALL HAIL THE PROPHET REALITY!

      May 3, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      I'm saved
      Do not blasphemy the prophet lest he smite you. ALL HAIL THE PROPHET REALITY
      ------
      I'm pretty sure we have laws against this smiting thing. Don't we?

      May 3, 2011 at 4:35 pm |
    • I'm saved

      The great propher Reality is above human law. He is the prophet

      May 3, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
  15. K. Mason

    After $1 Trillion dollars and over 100,000 lives, all they really had to do was pray to a dead pope!

    Take notes, future war-time presidents!

    May 3, 2011 at 7:32 am |
  16. doctore0

    Obviously this man is insane.. or corrupted

    May 3, 2011 at 6:41 am |
  17. Doug

    Thats what I said when they released the Paris Hilton home video–it was a miracle straight from Pope John Paul 2.

    May 3, 2011 at 5:48 am |
  18. hillary-mary chiwiks

    what a land mark achivement? if not for god and relentless prayer of the faithful christian all over the world. This is to say that no evil done by man can go unpunished by god .Let the leaders all over the world no who out of selfishness , continues to oppressed and impoverish the people ,whom out previlege god has place under them to govern,take a cue from the life of the beatified pope john paul 11 , that it is good to an example to others and to rule with the fear of god .The case of osama bin laden was as a result of bad leadership and bad example you the leader all over the world has shown to the younger generation,what a disaster awaiting us ,may god help us.Amen

    May 3, 2011 at 4:52 am |
  19. truth

    to all atheists – why the long face?

    May 3, 2011 at 2:38 am |
  20. truth

    to all non atheists – why the long face?

    May 3, 2011 at 2:36 am |
    • Truth, Justice, and the American Way

      THE long FACE ? LMAO. Hun, there are billions of 'em, and THEY have many faces.

      What is a "truth" ? Is it something you determine or "apprehend" for yourself ? Is it something that comes as a singular ent-ity, or a range of realities ? Do you require evidence for "it" ? It it the opposite of something else ? I seem to remember it comes as "halves" sometimes, (half truths). I like the 25 % truths.
      Whatever it is, the thought of naming, (self-congratulating) myself something so ludicrous would speak volumes to me about my insecurity, as well as my arrogance. Thanks for the laugh. These boards can always be relied upon for some good humor. Did you see yesterday, the brilliant comment : "Some people are just stupid all day " ? Ha !

      May 3, 2011 at 6:51 am |
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