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Actually, that's not in the Bible
Satan tempted Eve in the Garden of Eden right? Nope. That's one of many phantom passages that people think are in the Bible.
June 5th, 2011
01:00 AM ET

Actually, that's not in the Bible

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) – NFL legend Mike Ditka was giving a news conference one day after being fired as the coach of the Chicago Bears when he decided to quote the Bible.

“Scripture tells you that all things shall pass,” a choked-up Ditka said after leading his team to only five wins during the previous season.  “This, too, shall pass.”

Ditka fumbled his biblical citation, though. The phrase “This, too, shall pass” doesn’t appear in the Bible. Ditka was quoting a phantom scripture that sounds like it belongs in the Bible, but look closer and it’s not there.

Ditka’s biblical blunder is as common as preachers delivering long-winded public prayers. The Bible may be the most revered book in America, but it’s also one of the most misquoted. Politicians, motivational speakers, coaches - all types of people  - quote passages that actually have no place in the Bible, religious scholars say.

These phantom passages include:

“God helps those who help themselves.”

“Spare the rod, spoil the child.”

And there is this often-cited paraphrase: Satan tempted Eve to eat the forbidden apple in the Garden of Eden.

None of those passages appear in the Bible, and one is actually anti-biblical, scholars say.

But people rarely challenge them because biblical ignorance is so pervasive that it even reaches groups of people who should know better, says Steve Bouma-Prediger, a religion professor at Hope College in Holland, Michigan.

“In my college religion classes, I sometimes quote 2 Hesitations 4:3 (‘There are no internal combustion engines in heaven’),” Bouma-Prediger says. “I wait to see if anyone realizes that there is no such book in the Bible and therefore no such verse.

“Only a few catch on.”

Few catch on because they don’t want to - people prefer knowing biblical passages that reinforce their pre-existing beliefs, a Bible professor says.

“Most people who profess a deep love of the Bible have never actually read the book,” says Rabbi Rami Shapiro, who once had to persuade a student in his Bible class at Middle Tennessee State University that the saying “this dog won’t hunt” doesn’t appear in the Book of Proverbs.

“They have memorized parts of texts that they can string together to prove the biblical basis for whatever it is they believe in,” he says, “but they ignore the vast majority of the text."

Phantom biblical passages work in mysterious ways

Ignorance isn’t the only cause for phantom Bible verses. Confusion is another.

Some of the most popular faux verses are pithy paraphrases of biblical concepts or bits of folk wisdom.

Consider these two:

“God works in mysterious ways.”

“Cleanliness is next to Godliness.”

Both sound as if they are taken from the Bible, but they’re not. The first is a paraphrase of a 19th century hymn by the English poet William Cowper (“God moves in a mysterious way, His wonders to perform).

The “cleanliness” passage was coined by John Wesley, the 18th century evangelist who founded Methodism,  says Thomas Kidd, a history professor at Baylor University in Texas.

“No matter if John Wesley or someone else came up with a wise saying - if it sounds proverbish, people figure it must come from the Bible,” Kidd says.

Our fondness for the short and tweet-worthy may also explain our fondness for phantom biblical phrases. The pseudo-verses function like theological tweets: They’re pithy summarizations of biblical concepts.

“Spare the rod, spoil the child” falls into that category. It’s a popular verse - and painful for many kids. Could some enterprising kid avoid the rod by pointing out to his mother that it's not in the Bible?

It’s doubtful. Her possible retort: The popular saying is a distillation of Proverbs 13:24: “The one who withholds [or spares] the rod is one who hates his son.”

Another saying that sounds Bible-worthy: “Pride goes before a fall.” But its approximation, Proverbs 16:18, is actually written: “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.”

There are some phantom biblical verses for which no excuse can be offered. The speaker goofed.

That’s what Bruce Wells, a theology professor, thinks happened to Ditka, the former NFL coach, when he strayed from the gridiron to biblical commentary during his 1993 press conference in Chicago.

Wells watched Ditka’s biblical blunder on local television when he lived in Chicago. After Ditka cited the mysterious passage, reporters scrambled unsuccessfully the next day to find the biblical source.

They should have consulted Wells, who is now director of the ancient studies program at Saint Joseph’s University in Pennsylvania. Wells says Ditka’s error probably came from a peculiar feature of the King James Bible.

“My hunch on the Ditka quote is that it comes from a quirk of the King James translation,” Wells says. “Ancient Hebrew had a particular way of saying things like, ‘and the next thing that happened was…’ The King James translators of the Old Testament consistently rendered this as ‘and it came to pass.’ ’’

When phantom Bible passages turn dangerous

People may get verses wrong, but they also mangle plenty of well-known biblical stories as well.

Two examples: The scripture never says a whale swallowed Jonah, the Old Testament prophet, nor did any New Testament passages say that three wise men visited baby Jesus, scholars say.

Those details may seem minor, but scholars say one popular phantom Bible story stands above the rest: The Genesis story about the fall of humanity.

Most people know the popular version - Satan in the guise of a serpent tempts Eve to pick the forbidden apple from the Tree of Life. It’s been downhill ever since.

But the story in the book of Genesis never places Satan in the Garden of Eden.

“Genesis mentions nothing but a serpent,” says Kevin Dunn, chair of the department of religion at Tufts University in Massachusetts.

“Not only does the text not mention Satan, the very idea of Satan as a devilish tempter postdates the composition of the Garden of Eden story by at least 500 years,” Dunn says.

Getting biblical scriptures and stories wrong may not seem significant, but it can become dangerous, one scholar says.

Most people have heard this one: “God helps those that help themselves.” It’s another phantom scripture that appears nowhere in the Bible, but many people think it does. It's actually attributed to Benjamin Franklin, one of the nation's founding fathers.

The passage is popular in part because it is a reflection of cherished American values: individual liberty and self-reliance, says Sidnie White Crawford, a religious studies scholar at the University of Nebraska.

Yet that passage contradicts the biblical definition of goodness: defining one’s worth by what one does for others, like the poor and the outcast, Crawford says.

Crawford cites a scripture from Leviticus that tells people that when they harvest the land, they should leave some “for the poor and the alien” (Leviticus 19:9-10), and another passage from Deuteronomy that declares that people should not be “tight-fisted toward your needy neighbor.”

“We often infect the Bible with our own values and morals, not asking what the Bible’s values and morals really are,” Crawford says.

Where do these phantom passages come from?

It’s easy to blame the spread of phantom biblical passages on pervasive biblical illiteracy. But the causes are varied and go back centuries.

Some of the guilty parties are anonymous, lost to history. They are artists and storytellers who over the years embellished biblical stories and passages with their own twists.

If, say, you were an anonymous artist painting the Garden of Eden during the Renaissance, why not portray the serpent as the devil to give some punch to your creation? And if you’re a preacher telling a story about Jonah, doesn’t it just sound better to say that Jonah was swallowed by a whale, not a “great fish”?

Others blame the spread of phantom Bible passages on King James, or more specifically the declining popularity of the King James translation of the Bible.

That translation, which marks 400 years of existence this year, had a near monopoly on the Bible market as recently as 50 years ago, says Douglas Jacobsen, a professor of church history and theology at Messiah College in Pennsylvania.

“If you quoted the Bible and got it wrong then, people were more likely to notice because there was only one text,” he says. “Today, so many different translations are used that almost no one can tell for sure if something supposedly from the Bible is being quoted accurately or not.”

Others blame the spread of phantom biblical verses on Martin Luther, the German monk who ignited the Protestant Reformation, the massive “protest” against the excesses of the Roman Catholic Church that led to the formation of Protestant church denominations.

“It is a great Protestant tradition for anyone - milkmaid, cobbler, or innkeeper - to be able to pick up the Bible and read for herself. No need for a highly trained scholar or cleric to walk a lay person through the text,” says Craig Hazen, director of the Christian Apologetics program at Biola University in Southern California.

But often the milkmaid, the cobbler - and the NFL coach - start creating biblical passages without the guidance of biblical experts, he says.

“You can see this manifest today in living room Bible studies across North America where lovely Christian people, with no training whatsoever, drink decaf, eat brownies and ask each other, ‘What does this text mean to you?’’’ Hazen says.

“Not only do they get the interpretation wrong, but very often end up quoting verses that really aren’t there.”

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Belief • Bible • Books • Christianity • Faith

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  1. Andy

    It is quite obvious that Steve Bouma-Prediger doesn't understand scripture. He is indeed right that the words that he has quoted do not appear in the bible, however the counsel is implied in those very same words. One should never limit their argument to one scripture only, Revelation 12:9 identifies the serpent "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:" With all the translations and paraphrases of the bible one wonders which statement are in fact true. He is dealing here with several issues which he has lumped together, which is typical of some theologians.

    June 26, 2011 at 10:12 am |
    • THINKthenTYPE

      So you're saying the person who wrote Genesis had the book of Revelations was referring to Revelations?

      You get to believe whatever you want to but Theologians have to justify their statements and back them up with logic and facts. What's obvious here is that you don't understand the difference between having faith in a thing and having to prove a thing.

      June 28, 2011 at 11:09 am |
  2. Muneef

    Islamic Hadiths;
    Supposed to be violent and aggressive to non believers are told by many ;
     
    In English;
    http://www.40hadith.com/40hadith_en.htm

    In international languages;
    http://www.40hadith.com/

    June 25, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
  3. Muneef

    ((He raised some of you above others in rank));

    6:165] He is the One who made you inheritors of the earth, and ((He raised some of you above others in rank)), in order to test you in accordance with what He has given you. Surely, your Lord is efficient in enforcing retribution, and He is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
    --

    From the Quranic verse above we understand that the People Although Equal in Rights but are still in Ranks as when it comes to knowledge,wealth and power... Same things apply to Countries although Equal in Rights but still in Ranks as when it comes to knowledge,wealth and power...!

    Now this Gaps between those Ranks have grown falling behind between Ranks that has caused all the financial crisis that the world has suffered of and caused what has become to be known as the "Spring of the Mideast" although each had their reasons for it in Ranks...!

    It was told that time would come as small signs of the promised date that the wealthier would compete with building fancy sky sc-ra-pers & l Buildings...all serving pleasures and entertainments of certain High Ranks...Such fancy projects has dried up cash flow from financial markets which priorities was to  help and encourage small business owners in the fields of services or as industrialists or agriculturalists from finding supportive finance to develop economy and reduce employment...

    Higher bids by brokers on loans and interests ( Us-u-r-y) has delusioned the greediness of the international financial in-st-it-u-tions in to getting heavily involved financially running after the gold shine that the oil countries.
     means that these financial fountain springs has no planed directions or control over them to serve towards the developments of the Ranks and reducing gap between them by investing in a total su-sta-in-able development of all those ranks as to morals,knowledge,skills and their personal business investments. By providing technical guidance and financial assistance towards generating and encouraging investment ventures between public and private sectors in some in-teg-ra-tion completeness...

    Finance been bl-ock-ed in sky sc-r-apers, fancy islands,entertainment com-pl-exes and so on...this drove to the rich to grow poor, the poor grow poorer, the hungry grow hungrier...
    ----–

    Another Quranic verse says that In the heaven is our provision, and everything that is promised to us;
                      
    [51:20] The earth is full of signs for those who are certain.
    [51:21] And within yourselves; can you see?
    [51:22] In the heaven is your provision, and everything that is promised to you.
    [51:23] By the Lord of the heaven and the earth, this is as true as the fact that you speak.

    Heavens promise us rain that brings satisfaction and prosperity to all of those who depend on it... Heavens or are as well in ranks as per Q/verse;  

    [71:15] Do you not realize that GOD created seven universes (Heavens) in layers?

    Which only means that Ranks has to rain on to lower ranks for life flow to go as should in business between them and beside that....we have seen verses where it persists on people to be charitable by "Sadaqa" and "Zakath"....which are supposed to keep provision flowing from the top Rank to the lower to it and so on from one to the next...just like a fountain of water flowing from the top down layer by layer....

    Each a country has to have a fountain of water flowing as part of a group of fountains worldwide all together look as one Chris-mess Tree of layers of fountains running down and up again continuously with out interruptions otherwise the whole world will become falling backward in to a fountains of innocent Blood's,lives lost due the ignorance and the negligence of unlimited greeds....

    May God kill the tyrants by tyrants and save all the pure innocents in good peace. Amen. 

    June 25, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
  4. charles

    Mr. Hazen sounds like another "educator" who would like for people to feel like they are too stupid to understand– Like the Church for centuries have done. Bible here: http://dailygrace-ckellett3.blogspot.com

    June 25, 2011 at 9:41 am |
  5. steve

    If i remember right, Satan came to be known as the snake in the garden of eden in the new testament by paul. So i think it might be in the Christian Bible but not in the Hebrew Bible.

    June 24, 2011 at 7:17 pm |
    • Muneef

      Not even in the Quran was he mentioned as a Snake or any other thing other than "Ablees" as the personal name of the Satan...

      June 24, 2011 at 8:03 pm |
  6. Muneef

    Understand that during Alex-and-er the Great time and the Romans time men free or en-sla-ved were taken and for-c-ed into becoming gays,actually they had their private parts taken off into becoming a third kind...heard many others if were not ra-p-ed they will have their private part taken off to live with out,for serving in the name of religions the worship houses or the rulers palaces...

    Guess no one would think to became as gay if was not abused during childhood either by elders or the dominant ones at his age in the neighborhood... There is always a reason for that act and no way related to genetical reasons unless the body was deformed...! Many cases we heard of males had their private parts into the inside and thought of as females,brought up as females, only found out when no pregnancy signs were shown and scanned at hospitals to find out being a male...

    Another case was a male who had a stomach pain when taken to hospital it was found out he was a female having a period pain...although she had a small private part as of a male pointing out...as a he she was married to another female and has children... So had to divorce and marry a man after having had an operation...!?!  What we call those who unintentionally had been mistaken for?? Can we call it genetically cases and are excused..

    But now it became a fashion as understand in Far East&S.E.Asia that males have their private part taken off and made as a female with a female breast....so many of them until it became hard to tell which is a female and which is a male!? 

    Am sure non of us non gays would want to get married to find out being married to a male or as you say it be laid by a male rather than a true female and not artificial female....!!!

    No wonder that the world is filled with unmarried single females it is because males are busy looking for males rather than females..adding to that the Polygamy and Divorce laws imposed by some Religions and Countries has deprived those females the chance while married males are left stuck with one female whether there is love and respect between them or not but just because of children or religious ties..!!

    These acts of tyranny has driven married males and females to fall for adultry for their needs...same as well for single females having not found a legitimate male partners,had to seek pleasure by falling into adultery....

    Isn't there some thing wrong with the formula adopted that drives all into adultery and gayness for both $exs...? So where are the human rights they tell us about's when many suffer because of those in this world...it is only for those cases you see people become as good as the "Three Wise Monkeys"...?!  
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    [6:159] Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with you. Their judgment rests with GOD, then He will inform them of everything they had done.

    [6:160] Whoever does a righteous work receives the reward for ten, and the one who commits a sin is requited for only one. No one suffers the slightest injustice.

    [6:161] Say, "My Lord has guided me in a straight path – the perfect religion of Abraham, monotheism. He never was an idol worshiper."

    [6:162] Say, "My Contact Prayers (Salat), my worship practices, my life and my death, are all devoted absolutely to GOD alone, the Lord of the universe.

    [6:163] "He has no partner. This is what I am commanded to believe, and I am the first to submit."

    [6:164] Say, "Shall I seek other than GOD as a lord, when He is the Lord of all things? No soul benefits except from its own works, and none bears the burden of another. Ultimately, you return to your Lord, then He informs you regarding all your disputes."

    [6:165] He is the One who made you inheritors of the earth, and He raised some of you above others in rank, in order to test you in accordance with what He has given you. Surely, your Lord is efficient in enforcing retribution, and He is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
    -------–

    June 24, 2011 at 5:58 pm |
  7. Muneef

    All sea water creatures are edible and nothing of it considered haram by Islam...

    "You are what you eat" – Native American proverb

    In folklore terms, eating the meat of the pig is said to contribute to lack of morality and shame, plus greed for wealth, laziness, indulgence, dirtiness and gluttony. We insult a person by calling him or her a "Pig" when they demonstrate these characteristics. Muslims are forbidden by God to eat the meat of the pig (pork).

    http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/pork.html

    http://www.mesmarty.com/2009/01/19/harms-of-eating-pork-according-to-modern-research/

    Guess if you would disbelieve every thing that you read then there will be nothing that will make you believe what you do not want to believe...!

    June 24, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
  8. 14Mickey

    As a Christian, I found this article to be very useful and enlightening. Thanks.

    June 24, 2011 at 1:50 am |
  9. Hillbilly

    I like simple and concise I live by The Golden Rule and wish others would treat me with the same respect rather than misquote passages from Leviticus about gay folks(judging)..especially when I can see them committing Abomination while shaking that shrimp(eating shelfish) at me wearing cotton poly blends(mixed fibers) while piling a huge plate at the buffet (gluttony).

    June 23, 2011 at 9:06 pm |
  10. Muneef

    Consumption of swine-flesh reduces the feeling of shame and as such the standard of modesty.

    Consumption of swine-flesh creates lo-wli-ness in character and destroys moral and spiritual faculties in a man.

    Those nations, which consume pork habitually, have a low standard of morality with the result that vi-rg-in-ity, ch-ast-ity and bas-h-fulness are becoming a thing of the past.

    http://www.zamha.com/announce/halaal%20articles/That%20Filthy%20Swine.pdf
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    When You Feel No Shame, Then Do As You Wish; What Does This Mean?

    http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=4540&CATE=120

    http://www.pureislam.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=280&Itemid=32

    June 23, 2011 at 7:55 pm |
  11. Muneef

    Turkey as an Islamic model
    Giving Islamists more political space within a democratic framework has produced interesting results. http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=190784

    June 23, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
  12. captnavenger

    Proverbs 13:24: “The one who withholds [or spares] the rod is one who hates his son.”

    What a bunch of horse pucky. Sorry, guys. If I'm gonna worship the god of that book, he has to be wiser and better than me on every level. The god I read about in the Bible is neither. He's mean, hates people, and hits children.

    Personally, I don't believe that god is such a sick freak of low moral standard as the Bible portrays. But I get a little thrill knowing I'd qualify on any day as a better god than the one presented there. I'm a hundred times more tolerant, a thousand times kinder, more understanding, seemingly a LOT smarter, and I don't require everybody praise me all the time, which I suppose makes me a lot less insecure. In fact, I'd say that describes pretty much most of us.

    So what it is you all are worshiping? Power? Fear of power? Some god.

    June 23, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • God is love

      The God of the Old Testament is powerful enough to use whatever means he chooses to teach his followers. Often people don't get the message, much like it takes our children many reminders to learn new behavior. Also, God is the Creator of all and deserves some respect.

      June 24, 2011 at 9:51 am |
  13. Mikey72

    This story commits another common error: The "King James Bible" is not the official name of the book. There is the Authorized Version, commissioned by the Church of England in 1604 during the reign of King James I and completed in 1611.

    June 23, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
  14. Jason

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    June 23, 2011 at 10:24 am |
  15. Muneef

    [43:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

    [43:1] H. M.

    [43:2] And the enlightening scripture.

    [43:3] We have rendered it an Arabic Quran, that you may understand.

    [43:4] It is preserved with us in the original master, honorable and full of wisdom.

    [43:5] Should we just ignore the fact that you have transgressed the limits?
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    Inherited Traditions Condemned
    [43:22] The fact is that: they said, "We found our parents carrying on certain practices, and we are following in their footsteps."

    [43:23] Invariably, when we sent a warner to any community, the leaders of that community would say, "We found our parents following certain practices, and we will continue in their footsteps."

    [43:24] (The messenger) would say, "What if I brought to you better guidance than what you inherited from your parents?" They would say, "We are disbelievers in the message you brought."

    [43:25] Consequently, we requited them. Note the consequences for the rejectors.
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    Invisible, Devilish Companions*

    [43:36] Anyone who disregards the message of the Most Gracious, we appoint a devil to be his constant companion.

    [43:37] Such companions will divert them from the path, yet make them believe that they are guided.

    [43:38] When he comes before us he will say, "Oh I wish you were as far from me as the two easts. What a miserable companion!"

    [43:39] It will not console you on that day, as transgressors, that both of you will share in the retribution.
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    God's Messenger of the Covenant

    [43:40] Can you make the deaf hear; can you make the blind see, or those who are far astray?

    [43:41] Whether we let you die before it or not, we will surely requite them.

    [43:42] Or, we may show you (the retribution) we promised for them. We are in full control over them.

    [43:43] You shall steadfastly preach what is revealed to you; you are in the right path.

    [43:44] This is a message for you and your people; all of you will be questioned.

    [43:45] Check the messengers we sent before you: "Have we ever appointed any other gods – beside the Most Gracious – to be worshipped?"
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    Jesus: Another Example

    [43:57] When the son of Mary was cited as an example, your people disregarded it.

    [43:58] They said, "Is it better to worship our gods, or to worship him?" They said this only to argue with you. Indeed, they are people who have joined the opposition.

    [43:59] He was no more than a servant whom we blessed, and we sent him as an example for the Children of Israel.

    [43:60] If we willed, we could have made you angels who colonize and reproduce on earth.

    Jesus and the End of the World*

    [43:61] He is to serve as a marker for knowing the end of the world, so you can no longer harbor any doubt about it. You shall follow Me; this is the right path.

    [43:62] Let not the devil repel you; he is your most ardent enemy.

    [43:63] When Jesus went with the proofs, he said, "I bring to you wisdom, and to clarify some of the matters in which you dispute. You shall reverence GOD and obey me.

    [43:64] "GOD is my Lord and your Lord, you shall worship Him alone. This is the right path."

    [43:65] The opponents disputed among themselves. Woe to those who transgress from the retribution of a painful day.

    [43:66] Are they waiting for the Hour (Day of Judgment) to come to them suddenly when they least expect it?

    [43:67] The close friends on that day will become enemies of one another, except for the righteous.
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    They Hate The Truth

    [43:78] "We have given you the truth, but most of you hate the truth."

    [43:79] Have they schemed some scheme? We too are scheming.

    [43:80] Do they think that we do not hear their secrets and conspiracies? Yes indeed; our messengers are with them, recording.

    [43:81] Proclaim: "If the Most Gracious did have a son, I would still be the foremost worshiper."

    [43:82] Be He glorified; He is the Lord of the heavens and the earth, the Lord with the great dominion, far above their claims.

    [43:83] Let them blunder and play until they meet their day that is awaiting them.

    [43:84] He is the only One who is a deity in the heaven and a deity on earth. He is the Most Wise, the Omniscient.

    [43:85] Most Exalted is the One who possesses all sovereignty of the heavens and the earth, and everything between them. With Him is the knowledge about the Hour (end of the world), and to Him you will be returned.

    [43:86] None of those whom they idolize beside Him possess any power to intercede, unless their intercession coincides with the truth, and they fully know.

    [43:87] If you asked them who created them, they would say, "GOD." Why then did they deviate?

    [43:88] It will be proclaimed: "O my Lord, these people do not believe."

    [43:89] You shall disregard them and say, "Peace;" they will surely find out.

    http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html

    June 22, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
    • Jeffrey

      Muslims say that the Koran comes from the same God of the Jews and Christians and that Allah gave a book to the Jews and Christians that was not written by man's hand. That is not true as the Bible testify of itself. Jesus says that the word of God comes from them( Israel), John 5:35b and that the scripture(Old Testament scriptures) cannot be broken,John 5:35c meaning that it is the written authority of God. Also Moses wrote about him (Jesus), John 5:46-47. Moses wrote all the words of the words of the Lord,Exodus 24:4; The Lord told Moses to write the words of the covenant that He made between Moses and Israel,Exodus 34:27;The Lord commanded Moses to write the goings out of the journey of Israel,Numbers 33:2;The Lord guided David to write about the pattern of the House of God,1 Chronicles 28:19;"Moreover the LORD said unto me(prophet Isaiah) Take thee a great roll, and write in it with a man's pen concerning Mahershalalhashbaz.", Isaiah 8:1;"And it came to pass in the fourth year of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, that this word came unto Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day."Jeremiah 36:1-3. Jesus says to the Jews that David calls him Lord,Matthew 22:44-45;Mark 12:36-36;Luke 20:41-44;Psalm 110:1 according to the written authority of God.

      June 22, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
    • Muneef

      Jeffrey.

      Agree with you that all the scriptures words were inspired by God and or reveled by the Holy Spirit to the messengers who then wrote it as scriptures or books.

      June 23, 2011 at 7:29 am |
  16. Ruth

    Perhaps Ditka's comment came from Matthew 26:39 -

    And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

    June 20, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
  17. Joy

    Jesus said, "For as Jo'-nas was three days and three nights in the WHALE'S belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Matthew 12:40 KJV

    I will trust Jesus, the Lord of lords and the King of kings over CNN's "biblical/religious experts" any day. Also, I wonder if the "CNN experts" also think that Satan ONLY visits us under the guise of being a little red man with horns and a pitch fork?? All evil is from Satan – make no mistake. The scholars must have slept in their seminary class that day. I prefer to be taught by the Holy Spirit - As Jesus says, the Comforter (Holy Spirit) will reveal ALL truth to His children.

    June 20, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
    • Christian Schizophrenia

      Its not what jesus said, rather what men wrote that they heard from another than they heard from another. lol Got to love ignorance.

      June 20, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • Muneef

      Joy.

      We were told that the mentioned comforter within your books is not the Holy Spirit but rather be the last Prophet&Messenger after Jesus....;
      Quran;

      [7:157] "(4) follow the messenger, the gentile prophet (Muhammad), whom they find written in their Torah and Gospel. He exhorts them to be righteous, enjoins them from evil, allows for them all good food, and prohibits that which is bad, and unloads the burdens and the shackles imposed upon them. Those who believe in him, respect him, support him, and follow the light that came with him are the successful ones."

      [7:158] Say, "O people, I am GOD's messenger to all of you. To Him belongs the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. There is no god except He. He controls life and death." Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messenger, the gentile prophet, who believes in GOD and His words. Follow him, that you may be guided.

      June 20, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
    • Joy

      :Jesus said, "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." (John 14:26) Jesus can't be partially true. Some people say Jesus was a prophet or they believe that he was a "good guy" who did good things, but Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him" (John 14:6-7). When Jesus said He was the only way, He meant He was, in fact, the only way to the Father. Some other religions say Jesus was a prophet or Jesus did good things - yet the same religions do not believe that He was God who became flesh and walked among us. He can't be both good and a liar; it doesn't work that way. God does not change His mind either. He is the same yesterday, today, and for ever – as His Word says. I don't just believe it in order to believe something. I have sought Him very actively and with great humility – He has revealed great miracles and revelations to me, and He has confirmed that His word is the Holy Bible. I pray you seek Him - You will never be the same.

      June 21, 2011 at 4:21 pm |
    • Muneef

      Jesus was your sheepered to your Lord when Muhammed was our sheepered to our Lord..

      You were requested to correct your informations about Jesus from the Quran which came in many sura's in his name son of Mary...s.a.w to all.
      The comforter name was to come in the name of "Ahmeden" or "Muhammedden" as in the old testament or was it written in the Holy yards of Juersalam temples if you did not know...!

      June 21, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
  18. Muneef

    [7:94] Whenever we sent a prophet to any com-m-unity, we afflicted its people with adversity and hardship, that they may implore.

    [7:95] Then we sub-sti-tuted peace and prosperity in place of that hardship. But alas, they turned heedless and said, "It was our parents who experienced that hardship before prosperity." Consequently, we punished them suddenly when they least expected.

    [7:96] Had the people of those com-m-unities believed and turned righteous, we would have showered them with blessings from the heaven and the earth. Since they decided to disbelieve, we punished them for what they earned.

    [7:97] Did the people of the present com-m-unities guarantee that our retribution will not come to them in the night as they sleep?

    [7:98] Did the people of today's com-m-unities guarantee that our retribution will not come to them in the daytime while they play?

    [7:99] Have they taken GOD's plans for granted? None takes GOD's plans for granted except the losers.

    [7:100] Does it ever occur to those who inherit the earth after previous generations that, if we will, we can punish them for their sins, and seal their hearts, causing them to turn deaf?

    [7:101] We narrate to you the history of those com-m-unities: their messengers went to them with clear proofs, but they were not to believe in what they had rejected before. GOD thus seals the hearts of the disbelievers.

    [7:102] We found that most of them disregard their covenant; we found most of them wicked.
    -------

    [7:142] We summoned Moses for thirty* nights, and completed them by adding ten. Thus, the audience with his Lord lasted forty * nights. Moses said to his brother Aaron, "Stay here with my people, maintain righteousness, and do not follow the ways of the corrupters."

    [7:143] When Moses came at our appointed time, and his Lord spoke with him, he said, "My Lord, let me look and see You." He said, "You cannot see Me. Look at that mountain; if it stays in its place, then you can see Me." Then, his Lord manifested Himself to the mountain, and this caused it to crumble. Moses fell unconscious. When he came to, he said, "Be You glorified. I repent to You, and I am the most convinced believer."

    [7:144] He said, "O Moses, I have chosen you, out of all the people, with My messages and by speaking to you. Therefore, take what I have given you and be appreciative."

    [7:145] We wrote for him on the tablets all kinds of enlightenments and details of everything: "You shall uphold these teachings strongly, and exhort your people to uphold them – these are the best teachings. I will point out for you the fate of the wicked."

    [7:146] I will divert from My revelations those who are arrogant on earth, without justification. Consequently, when they see every kind of proof they will not believe. And when they see the path of guidance they will not adopt it as their path, but when they see the path of straying they will adopt it as their path. This is the consequence of their rejecting our proofs, and being totally heedless thereof.

    [7:147] Those who reject our revelations and the meeting of the Hereafter, their works are nullified. Are they requited only for what they committed?
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    [7:156] "And decree for us righteousness in this world, and in the Hereafter. We have repented to You." He said, "My retribution befalls whomever I will. But My mercy encompasses all things. However, I will specify it for those who (1) lead a righteous life, (2) give the obligatory charity (Zakat), (3) believe in our revelations, and

    [7:157] "(4) follow the messenger, the gentile prophet (Muhammad), whom they find written in their Torah and Gospel. He exhorts them to be righteous, enjoins them from evil, allows for them all good food, and prohibits that which is bad, and unloads the burdens and the shackles imposed upon them. Those who believe in him, respect him, support him, and follow the light that came with him are the successful ones."

    [7:158] Say, "O people, I am GOD's messenger to all of you. To Him belongs the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. There is no god except He. He controls life and death." Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messenger, the gentile prophet, who believes in GOD and His words. Follow him, that you may be guided.

    [7:159] Among the followers of Moses there are those who guide in accordance with the truth, and the truth renders them righteous.

    June 19, 2011 at 11:12 pm |
    • Tt

      Assalamu alaikum

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6quHy6rafZ4&w=640&h=390]

      June 19, 2011 at 11:21 pm |
    • Muneef

      Tt.
      Waalikum Alsalam

      It's in Arabic but doubt if the sound of voices if connected to clip since they don't seem to go together well...

      June 19, 2011 at 11:47 pm |
    • Tt

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSIwBQuImgI&w=640&h=390]

      June 20, 2011 at 12:02 am |
    • Tt

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ7I9Noi4Iw&w=640&h=390]

      June 20, 2011 at 12:04 am |
    • Tt

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGexk6oITa4&w=640&h=390]

      June 20, 2011 at 12:05 am |
    • Tt

      :D

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSIwBQuImgI&w=640&h=390]

      June 20, 2011 at 12:08 am |
    • Muneef

      Tt.
      Actually I think of him as a brave man and may he strengthen his people of the Christ... Main thing he should reach a word with Islamic Imams to rather bring Christian and muslims together into living peacefully caring for each other rather than heating up situation that divide the same blood race to kill each other in any Islamic or non Islamic countries...

      It doesn't matter how many Muslims converted to Christianity or Christians converted in to Islam...since we were taught that having different faiths or paths is a sign for mercy as to who wants to accept what for joining rather than remaining where he doesn't belong or believe against one's will...

      June 21, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
  19. Jon

    This too shall pass is a quote from Kipling's Jungle Book. It comes in the chapter where there is a great droubt and all the animals are gathering near the only water left. Their leader, Hathi the elephant makes the quote 'This too shall pass."

    June 19, 2011 at 8:44 am |
  20. Muneef

    Prof. Wagner: I believe that the Holy God speaks to us in the Quran

    Professor Walter Wagner, a professor of theology, shared his vision of the Quran with Sunday’s Zaman readers.
    After carefully reading the Quran and examining it based on his many years of study, a leading American theologian has concluded that via the holy book God is speaking to all human beings around the world, a voice that, in his astonishing book, he said he tried to transmit to readers and students, as well to himself, to deepen his understanding.

    Professor Walter Wagner’s fascinating book “Opening the Qur’an: Introducing Islam’s Holy Book” is definitely a bewildering and inspiring book, not only for the non-Muslim and English-speaking readers, but also Muslim readers. Wagner “opens” the Quran by offering a comprehensive and extraordinarily readable, step-by-step introduction to the text, making it accessible to everyone who is interested in Islam and Islam’s holy book.

    Watch: http://www.ebru.tv/en/genres/TalkShow/footnote/episodes/4/402-walter-h-wagner 

    http://www.todayszaman.com/news-246986-prof-wagner-i-believe-that-the-holy-god-speaks-to-us-in-the-quran.html

    June 18, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
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