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My Take: Bible condemns a lot, so why focus on homosexuality?
June 21st, 2011
10:10 AM ET

My Take: Bible condemns a lot, so why focus on homosexuality?

Editor's Note: Jonathan Dudley is the author of Broken Words: The Abuse of Science and Faith in American Politics.

By Jonathan Dudley, Special to CNN

Growing up in the evangelical community, I learned the Bible’s stance on homosexuality is clear-cut. God condemns it, I was taught, and those who disagree just haven’t read their Bibles closely enough.

Having recently graduated from Yale Divinity School, I can say that my childhood community’s approach to gay rights—though well intentioned—is riddled with self-serving double standards.

I don’t doubt that the one New Testament author who wrote on the subject of male-male intercourse thought it a sin. In Romans 1, the only passage in the Bible where a reason is explicitly given for opposing same-sex relations, the Apostle Paul calls them “unnatural.”

Problem is, Paul’s only other moral argument from nature is the following: “Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair, it is degrading to him, but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?” (1 Corinthians 11:14-15).

Few Christians would answer that question with a “yes.”

In short, Paul objects to two things as unnatural: one is male-male sex and the other is long hair on men and short hair on women. The community opposed to gay marriage takes one condemnation as timeless and universal and the other as culturally relative.

I also don’t doubt that those who advocate gay marriage are advocating a revision of the Christian tradition.

But the community opposed to gay marriage has itself revised the Christian tradition in a host of ways. For the first 1500 years of Christianity, for example, marriage was deemed morally inferior to celibacy. When a theologian named Jovinian challenged that hierarchy in 390 A.D. — merely by suggesting that marriage and celibacy might be equally worthwhile endeavors — he was deemed a heretic and excommunicated from the church.

How does that sit with “family values” activism today?

Yale New Testament professor Dale B. Martin has noted that today’s "pro-family" activism, despite its pretense to be representing traditional Christian values, would have been considered “heresy” for most of the church’s history.

The community opposed to gay marriage has also departed from the Christian tradition on another issue at the heart of its social agenda: abortion.

Unbeknownst to most lay Christians, the vast majority of Christian theologians and saints throughout history have not believed life begins at conception.

Although he admitted some uncertainty on the matter, the hugely influential 4th and 5th century Christian thinker Saint Augustine wrote, “it could not be said that there was a living soul in [a] body” if it is “not yet endowed with senses.”

Thomas Aquinas, a Catholic saint and a giant of mediaeval theology, argued: “before the body has organs in any way whatever, it cannot be receptive of the soul.”

American evangelicals, meanwhile, widely opposed the idea that life begins at conception until the 1970s, with some even advocating looser abortion laws based on their reading of the Bible before then.

It won’t do to oppose gay marriage because it’s not traditional while advocating other positions that are not traditional.

And then there’s the topic of divorce. Although there is only one uncontested reference to same-sex relations in the New Testament, divorce is condemned throughout, both by Jesus and Paul. To quote Jesus from the Gospel of Mark: “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery.”

A possible exception is made only for unfaithfulness.

The community most opposed to gay marriage usually reads these condemnations very leniently. A 2007 issue of Christianity Today, for example, featured a story on its cover about divorce that concluded that Christians should permit divorce for “adultery,” “emotional and physical neglect” and “abandonment and abuse.”

The author emphasizes how impractical it would be to apply a strict interpretation of Jesus on this matter: “It is difficult to believe the Bible can be as impractical as this interpretation implies.”

Indeed it is.

On the other hand, it’s not at all difficult for a community of Christian leaders, who are almost exclusively white, heterosexual men, to advocate interpretations that can be very impractical for a historically oppressed minority to which they do not belong – homosexuals.

Whether the topic is hair length, celibacy, when life begins, or divorce, time and again, the leaders most opposed to gay marriage have demonstrated an incredible willingness to consider nuances and complicating considerations when their own interests are at stake.

Since graduating from seminary, I no longer identify with the evangelical community of my youth. The community gave me many fond memories and sound values but it also taught me to take the very human perspectives of its leaders and attribute them to God.

So let’s stop the charade and be honest.

Opponents of gay marriage aren’t defending the Bible’s values. They’re using the Bible to defend their own.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Jonathan Dudley.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Homosexuality • Opinion

soundoff (6,474 Responses)
  1. Kyle

    The comments on this page provide excellent examples of delusion. This man is one of your own, a Christian. He provides a well-thought and rational analysis, citing evidence from your holy book. Yet, so many of you have the audacity to attack both his person and his ideas without even a shred of reason or logical justification for your point of view. You don't try to provide an alternative interpretation of his cited passages. You don't provide proof as to why your opinion correct or his incorrect. You criticize his faith as false, you state that he is wrong, and you simply state your beliefs without the slightest hint of support other than your own feelings of what your God intends (which, of course, hold no ground in a such a debate). You are delusional.

    delusion: a belief held in the face of evidence to the contrary, that is resistant to all reason

    June 23, 2011 at 4:43 pm |
  2. KWilliams

    Dudley, I am so sorry for you... If you learned something in Yale Divinity, you know that what you are saying is not right. You are just creating controversy to SELL YOUR BOOK! Note: I just saw the interview, and dude, my take: you are gay and trying to justify how you feel.

    June 23, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
    • Fuyuko

      What is wrong for you, may be right for someone else. We aren't the same. Telling someone they are wrong, just because you feel they are, doesn't make it so.

      June 24, 2011 at 3:23 pm |
    • Audrey

      And where did you graduate from, "dude"?

      July 11, 2011 at 9:13 pm |
  3. Vorona

    Good grief. I don't understand what all the fuss is about, but I'm really getting tired of reading about it.

    It's very simple: The government should allow gay marriages. However, each religion separately can decide whether to allow it or not.

    End of discussion.

    June 23, 2011 at 3:43 pm |
    • Scott

      a-Amen

      June 26, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
    • Audrey

      Agreed, progress is slow because there isn't a true separation of church and state. Although that hasn't always been a bad thing, I think it agreeably is when it interferes with human rights.
      Bottom line; Religious beliefs do not equal American law

      July 11, 2011 at 9:21 pm |
  4. Joe

    My religion and most religions throughout the world and history say we are to care for the poor, the sick, the elderly and all of God's creation. When do we start using government to impose those beliefs as well?

    June 23, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      It has already started in the USA – just look at the pledge of allegiance...

      June 23, 2011 at 3:58 pm |
  5. Plauge of Religion

    Zelda:
    Are you a member of westboro baptist church?, if not take a look at it, they seem to have the same ideals and "Ideals" as yourself. And to answer other questions, i am a non-believer of all religions, yet i have read many (not done reading) religious texts (bible, torah, koran, etc..) it is by reading these texts fully (front to back) that i have become who i am, a non believer.

    June 23, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
  6. Roxan Arntson

    Loved this article! You should write a book!

    June 23, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
    • Jackson Stacey

      He did and there's a link to it at the top of the page!

      June 23, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
  7. bigjohn756

    How does one decide which verses of the Bible are "right" and which are "wrong"? It looks to me like most people just read the ones they want to be the "right" ones and skip over the ones that are "wrong".

    June 23, 2011 at 2:13 pm |
    • GodPot

      Well you see, Christians through the years use a variety of scriptures and improvised context to allow them to do whatever they want, while condemning those they dislike anyway with scriptures that are right next to the ones that would condemn their own behavior, like the weaving of two kinds of fabric, the eating of shellfish, keeping the sabbath, killing disobedient children, women cutting their hair and owning slaves. They like to quote the ones that back them up and likely have never even read the ones that talk about how King David loved Jonathan more than women, or Jesus who John more than the others and had him rest on his chest while reclining for a meal.

      June 23, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
    • GodPot

      "or Jesus who Loved John more than the others"

      June 23, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
  8. JB

    As a serious believer who used to be on the far right I couldn't agree more. I don't know why the Bible has so many anti-gay passages but I don't believe it represents the true heart of God on the subject.

    June 23, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • Leo

      Didn't you read the article?

      Part of the author's point is that the bible does NOT have "so many anti-gay passages." In fact, it only has one that gives an actual reason for it. The Bible condemns plenty of other things MANY TIMES MORE than "the gay," and yet right-wing evangelical Christians will ignore or explain away the parts of the bible that contradict their agendas, while harping on the few passages that support their agendas.

      If Christians were just as adamant about all of the Bible's condemnations, they'd be lobbying to make it a crime for men to wear long hair and for women to wear short hair.

      June 23, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
    • Fuyuko

      Of course not. If god didn't want gays he wouldn't have made them. I don't believe god is the type of being who would make somone gay, then 'zoink' them as sinful for being who they are.

      June 24, 2011 at 3:24 pm |
    • Scott

      Fuyuko, you don't understand. That's why he gave us a book so full of contradictions that you have to break some laws to keep other laws. God's plan is to zoink every one

      June 26, 2011 at 3:11 pm |
  9. doug

    to all the christians out there, have you ever seen god? do you have any evidence of god? since you answered no to both questions why would you belive in god? and dont give me "you just got to have faith" bs, having faith is just another term for being guliable and willingly ignoring facts

    June 23, 2011 at 9:30 am |
    • Believer

      You can't see God with the naked eye. He is a spirit that represent everything that"s good. There's the spirit of good and evil. Galatians 5:22 tells you about the spirit of God. He is the spirit of love, faith, peace, forgiveness, patience, gentleness, kindness, everything that's good. The opposite of those good spirit is hate, doubt, fear, unforgiveness. You are experiencing both spirits daily. There's a warfare daily between the spirits of good and evil. These spirits represent your feelings on a daily basis. Sometime you feel joy, happiness, anger, hate, love, etc. A person that lies, murder, etc., is not letting the good spirit of God rule him. He is being ruled by the bad spirit, led by Satan (Devil). Studying God's word through the bible helps us to allow His spirit to rule our mind and hearts for this present day life, and eternal life after we die. Our body WILL die, but our spirit/soul will never die.

      June 23, 2011 at 10:16 am |
    • doug

      a person that "lies, murder, etc..." is just a bad person probably with a lack of control of emotions or a lot of insecurities that stem from past experiences. it is not a matter of "spirits".

      June 23, 2011 at 10:27 am |
    • Stevie7

      God destroy cities, nations, and even the entire world at some point. That destruction would have included innocent children, infants, and then unborn. He is wrathful and vengeful. He killed all of the egyptians first born sons to try and persuade one person. How is this a god that "is a spirit that represent everything that"s good"?

      June 23, 2011 at 10:36 am |
    • Believer

      Doug and Steve! It's a lot to understand and a lifetime learning about God and Jesus. That's why we go to church to help us to understand. One day your earthly mother and father will be gone. You will know there is a Heavenly Father (God) who loves us and treat us the same way your loving earthly father and mother. Your earthly mother and father loved you, yet they condemn you when you were wrong. They too punished you when you disobeyed. Get a Dictionary to see meaning of SPIRIT: State of mind, inner character of a person (different from the physical person we can see and touch). We are made physically where you can see and touch, and made inward representing our spirit reflecting our character, state of mind, thinking, thoughts. The spirit can be felt to be present but cannot be seen in shape, form, color, etc. It can be seen through our behavior. Example; we can be mean spirited and talk to one another in a mean, nasty way. It is the inner man that reflects how we treat and talk to one another. It reflects our behavior both good and bad ways. EMOTION: Means strong FEELINGS such as love, anger, fear. So you see spirit and emotion have the same meaning representing your feelings. Your thinking, thoughts make up your feelings mentioned previously. If you constantly think bad thoughts, you could have bad feelings, and vice versa. That's where God come in to give us the right spirit and control over our bad impulse which could lead to destruction in our lives and others. I know innocent people can go to prison but if God was truly in control, some might have been spared of such a destructive life.

      June 23, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
    • .....

      "That's where God come in to give us the right spirit and control over our bad impulse which could lead to destruction in our lives and others."

      No, that is your own personal power that you are claiming is God but deep down it's just really you. When you believe in yourself, have a positive outlook on life, great things can happen to you. It's your personal energy doing it, not a God. It's all about the choices you make and taking responsibility for those choices.

      June 23, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
  10. Arthur Chipping

    The author is absolutely correct that the opponents of gay marriage are using the bible to bolster their own views. Take a look at the Archbishop of St. Paul and Minneapolis and his defense of the Marriage Amendment in Minnesota. He uses references in the bible that have nothing to do with gays, gay marriage, or do anything to prove that they shouldn't be married.

    Read more...
    http://www.archspm.us/node/66

    June 23, 2011 at 9:15 am |
  11. Rick

    I saw this guy on TV and nearly fell off my chair? Why is CNN so quick to put people who oppose Christianity on TV? Why didnt they have another person on with opposing views to debunk this so called educator?

    June 23, 2011 at 9:11 am |
    • Leo

      "This guy" graduated from seminary and is a Christian. He's just not "gay-hating, far-right, extremist Christian."

      June 23, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      CNN wants us to drop our Faith and put our Faith in them. Just listen to news segments and "round tables" and you will see many news reporters questioning why folks do not rely and listen to them, the news media, more in their lives. FoxNews, CNN and MsNBC are all about the same.... all of their promos say the same thing...

      "the Network you can trust" ...

      "put your families trust in us" ....

      "we will tell you what to eat, what not to eat, who to hate and who to like"

      That they would come up against the Church is not a surprise, its an insti'tution that does in society what they feel they should be doing. So that is why you have a Belief Blog with negative story after negative stories about the church. Hardly any against the Mosque.... CNN is too afraid of them, but story after story anti-church. Never any stories about food kitchens, or things such as Nuns helping in the community or celebrating their convents century mark or opening of new convents.

      Nope, we get snot stains stories after stories of how traditional Christians are wrong wrong wrong..by Christian writer after writer who have issues with their church and just want a platform to wail and cry that their churches will not bend to them. In some ways I pity them and other I cry for them.

      Either way, the battle goes on 🙂

      June 23, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • Fors Miner

      Maybe it's because Christianity needs to be opposed. It causes nothing but division, hatred, arrogance, prejudice, war, ignorance, genocide, and Nancy Grace! Oppose it, I say!

      June 23, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Yah' say poop 🙂

      Sorry kid, the positive folks still outnumber the Westburos among us.

      June 23, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
    • Patrick

      Because there have been plenty of people like yourself to tell gays they're (un-rightly) condemned by God and the Bible – we need more people like the author to refute the hatred spewed forth by your kind.

      June 23, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
    • Fuyuko

      It's not opposing Christianity to doubt the interpretation or the way people interpret the bible. The bible isn't god, and isn't perfect.

      June 24, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
  12. Muneef

    Zelda.

    All my respects to you for your pure determination and may God bless your way... Have many things to say to you but can't put them in words since they are from heart...>^

    June 23, 2011 at 8:08 am |
  13. Curtis

    Think how much more peaceful, and how much less judgemental, this world would be without religion.

    June 23, 2011 at 7:46 am |
    • Tim Hatch

      You mean like in North Korea? Or the USSR of the last century? Yes. The world is always better when Religion is ousted from the public sphere. But thank you for your intelligent, well thought out critique of faith. It must be nice to be able to pin all war, evil, and pain on the faith community.

      June 23, 2011 at 10:28 am |
    • Peter

      What a true statement!

      June 23, 2011 at 4:34 pm |
    • Scott

      Tim: Communism (Eg. Stalinism and Maoism) is just another kind of religion. 1. Omnipotent ruler who’s word is law. 2. Dogma held as the absolute truth. 3. Punishment of any dissent or free thinking. 4. Demand for absolute obedience. 5. Violent opposition and oppression of other religions.

      June 26, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
  14. Zelda

    American perverts, you can never defeat what the Bible says. Just give up. Start a new religion instead of claiming the name of Christianity or using the Bible verses like Satan does. That's more honest. The Bible texts reached the whole world because of the real American Christian missionaries; no one can be fooled with the lies of the Western perverts.

    June 22, 2011 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply

    Zelda

    I'm glad Yale has a copy of the Bible! Yet they let students read a few verses and give away diplomas as usual! What a fake Divinity school! The Chinese government-sanctined churches, as horrible as they are, are better and more honest on Christianity than Yale! Shame on you, pagan Americans!

    June 23, 2011 at 7:35 am |
    • Fors Miner

      Speaking of ranting and raving...
      I know you used the word pagan (with a lower-case 'p') but I want to point out that Pagans (with a capital 'P') love god(s) love children and love the planet. We are not afraid of atheists, either. In fact, a few of us consider ourselves a-theists (note the hyphen) since we do not believe that 'god' is separate from creation, but that creation is full of god. We all have god in us. This belief makes us more tolerant of those who are not like us, because we believe (not like Christians, that we have the only truth) that everyone and everything is the face of God. Desiring to be at one with god, we attempt to be at one with each other. I suggest Christians consider such an idea...for even their scripture says that they should all speak in agreement...but the vast number of warring factions, sects and divisions among the Christian churches is staggering. How can you say you are at one with God. Hypocrites and offspring of vipers (Jesus said that) get the rafter out of your own eye before you try to remove the straw in mine.

      June 23, 2011 at 2:17 pm |
    • Drew

      So the bible is ok with divorce then? Is that what you're saying?

      June 23, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
    • Scott

      Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated

      June 26, 2011 at 8:28 pm |
    • Audrey

      * government- sanctioned

      July 11, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
  15. Zelda

    Atheists blaspheme like hell, promote the worst perversion, kill babies and then rant "How good we are!" A total insane species.

    June 23, 2011 at 7:32 am |
    • Yo

      Zelda as you continue to lie about others you will be the one going to he-ll. LMAO!

      June 23, 2011 at 8:11 am |
    • Loved and athiest

      Zelda, I take a huge offense to your very blanket statement about athiests. My Father was an athiest and he was NOT someone who " blaspheme like hell, promote the worst perversion, kill babies and then rant "How good we are!" " As a matter of fact he found abortion to be abhorant, he didn't believe in the death penalty, he found people who put up signs that said merry x-mas to be disrespectful of our celebration of the birth of Jesus, he never used foul language and quite honestly was probably a man with better morals and values than a lot of so-called Christians I've met. He also showed up for every one of my church events to support me and was much more respectful of the service taking place than many of the usual congregation because he didn't talk during the mass. So before you decide to paint an entire group of people with a broad brush I would suggest you do as scripture says and "judge not lest you be judged"

      June 23, 2011 at 10:16 am |
    • Tom

      @Loved and athiest The X in X-mas is the Greek letter Chi and was shorthand for Christ. There is nothing disrespectful about it at all

      June 23, 2011 at 10:24 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Zelda, Zelda, Zelda! How many times do I have to tell you that 70+% of abortions in the USA are had by believers! When believers get their bad behaviour under control, feel free to continue to nag us atheists. Until then, fuck off!

      July 11, 2011 at 9:44 pm |
  16. Zelda

    Atheists and God-haters use the Bible wrongly and claim the opposite things from what the Bible teaches. They never read the whole text and say the weirdest things out of context. Christians don't do that because atheists have no book, nothing, to be even misquoted. What atheists have is only despair and the staunch habit of attacking everything good and meaningful.

    June 23, 2011 at 7:30 am |
    • Yo

      Just remember the way you are judging others is the way you will be judged. LMAO!

      June 23, 2011 at 8:12 am |
    • Bibi

      Zelda, I honestly can't tell whether you are trolling, or really are that deluded.

      June 23, 2011 at 9:37 am |
    • Leo

      Hehehe... you're so funny.

      June 23, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
    • Scott

      I don't have to use the bible wrongly. It is quite wrong all by itself
      When the LORD your God delivers it[city] into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies.
      –Deuteronomy 20:13

      However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them
      –Deuteronomy 20:16

      June 26, 2011 at 8:33 pm |
    • ReeMM

      Bibi – even if Zelda is trolling, the scary thing is that people actually do believe that stuff . . .

      June 29, 2011 at 8:05 am |
  17. mike c

    Peter is/was not the only "christian" to deny his Lord. The bigots and haters perverting the bible to justify their prejudice are denying Him far more.

    June 23, 2011 at 4:58 am |
  18. jerry

    i make no claim to be a christian,but i was raised in a church going family and only ever went to church school.the main reason i dont go to church now is that ,i see it as a club where people who think the same pat each other on the back,and turn their noses up at every one else.thats why there are so many different churches,just about every one of these churches take what they want from the bible,and throw out the rest.wether its gay rights or abortion or the sancity of marrage,even the fact that most of these churches dont even know why they go to church on sunday when jesus and every other person in the bible went to church on the seventh day like god comanded them to do.i believe in god ,but i dont believe that we have the right to pick and choose what parts of his word,we need to follow , if you believe in the god of the bible than you also believe in a god that rained down fire on soddum and gamorra because of their life style (gay).the bible is full of storys that lead me to believe that hardly any supposed christians of today have a clue what it actualy means to be a christian , dont take what me or any other person says is right or wrong ,read your bible for your self and make up your own minds based on what god has to say and no one else.if any body tells you some thing that isnt in gods word ,or trys to say that what god said doesnt matter any more,that person is not a true christian,to be a christian means you try to live by gods word not mans word

    June 23, 2011 at 3:47 am |
    • Yo

      "rained down fire on soddum and gamorra because of their life style (gay)"

      So did you even bother looking at the definition of sodomy or did you listen to your prejudice preachers? Here a hint... an-al or or-al copu-lation with a member of the opposite se-x. Oh...wow...yeah...it's really all about gays. NOT Oh...I know...it was really about ra-pe. Who knew! Oh...did you also pick up a history book by chance? Probably not because if you had you would know the word ho-mo-se-xual wasn't invented till after the Middle Ages.

      June 23, 2011 at 8:17 am |
  19. Reality

    Beyond the bible and into the bedroom for the specifics as per Biology/Physics 101:

    Hmmm lets see, in gay se-xual activity, who plays the guy and who plays the gal? Who is on top and who is on the bottom? A coin flip? To say the least, an unusual situation.

    Then there are those "made in China" toys/strap-ons. Lets hope the FDA has checked them for lead and other toxic components. And do said "toys" come with sanitizers and/or sterilization instructions.

    Lots and lots of "gays" doing their hot and heavy things on Internet tube sites but nothing about coin flipping, who is on first, and sanitizers sites?? There must be some "Gaying It For Dummies" books out there somewhere. Hmmm, I wonder if said books/sites have to have FDA and CDC approval??

    Is said activity wrong and worthy of a trip to hell? Of course not but to the general heteros-exual population it is yucky, unusual and not normal to them. With that mind set, approval by the majority is not always sanctioned in law.

    The general population to include many of the voters in California, rightly or wrongly, find gay se-xual activities, married or not, to be "yucky" and unusual and typically associate such activity with the spread of AIDS which is of course wrong. Said AIDS epidemic in the gay male community at the start of the AIDS crises will always remain unfortunately a stigma on the gay community.

    " And after all of this rhetoric, gay "marriages" simply simplify and somewhat sanitize what are still "yucky" acts caused by a variant gene(s) and/or hormone imbalance. One wonders if stem cell research will find a cure??

    Impressive list of gay people who did not let their yucky defect get in the way of being a contribution to society. Unfortunately, they were not able to contribute to the evolutionary process of DNA improvement via procreation.
    And one will never know whether they would have achieved even greater achievements without said defect.

    From below, on top, backwards, forwards, from this side of the Moon and from the other side too, gay se-xual activity is still mutual masturbation caused by one or more complex s-exual defects. Some defects are visually obvious in for example the complex maleness of DeGeneres, Billy Jean King and Rosie O'Donnell.

    And yes, heteros-exuals practice many of the same "moves" but there is never a doubt who is the female and who is the male.

    _________________________________________________________________________________________________

    June 22, 2011 at 11:30 pm |
    • mike c

      More than a few gay people have had children prior to acknowledging their true nature. As with 99.99% of the anti-gay postings the reasoning is bogus. The inability to understand the article written by a biblical scholar only supports the authors contention that religious are bending the bible for their own purposes, not for the benefit of the god they profess to believe in.

      June 23, 2011 at 4:56 am |
    • Jeff

      I find it amuzing how straight people believe that when two men have se-x, it must be the case that "one of them is the man", and "one of them is the woman". I can assure you that both (or all) of the participants are, in fact, men.. [You might as well assert, "When I use two salt shakers, I get confused because one of them is the salt and one of them is the pepper."]

      The only thing that is "yucky" is how ignorant and intolerant people are still allowed a vote.

      June 23, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
  20. Zelda

    Actually the Bible condemns every pervert to death. Jesus told us to give them time to repent. Ho-mo-s-e-x-uality and Christianity(or any religion) is incompatiable. Only Sodomites adhere perversion such as ho-mo-s-e-x-uality. Perversion is actually the final version of worship of self. It brings down judgment upon the land, because doing nothing about moral decadence is sin as well. The society gets judgment for its silent condoning of evil.

    June 22, 2011 at 11:26 pm |
    • JOregon

      Adultery is also a sin.
      Odd that so many of those churches that point their fingers at gays claim to put their blessing on adultery. Many (most) churches will marry divorced couples.
      Mark 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
      Mark 10:12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
      These are the ones that need to pay attention to Matthew 7:21-23.
      I think God will be much angrier with those that think they can put God's blessing on sin than he will be on those that sin.
      If you are going to run around pointing your finger at the sins of others you had better be absolutely positive you never sin. EVER.

      June 23, 2011 at 2:48 am |
    • juju2011

      I bet your knowledge about the Bible, and your own Christian religion, is as limited as your illogical and subjective claim.

      June 23, 2011 at 3:03 am |
    • Come on Now

      JOregon – good point....I like the way you think. These religions that claim things and bless things that God would not even touch is outrageous now a days. So many falsehoods in Christendom today. She will collapse. SHe has stood at the side of Hitler blessing his Third Reich. She has gained great riches, gold, silver, while people suffer. She teaches false teachings. Her people are like lost sheep. There is a way God wants worshiped and just like a father he expects his children to listen to him like a true parent would want from a child.

      June 23, 2011 at 8:47 am |
    • Fuyuko

      Who cares what the bible condemns? It is what God condemns that matters. The bible isn't God, and last I checked, God made gays. God is a supreme being who loves and created and knows all. He's not some cosmic beancounter who obsess who humans shag. The only being who does that- is man. So please, stop attributing evil to my god. Your god may hate 'perverts' My god created them, and accepts them for who they are.

      June 24, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
    • Scott

      Do a little research and you will discover that the life expectancy of the average pervert is the same as the average christian. So where is your god:?

      June 26, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
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