By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
(CNN) - If Hillary Clinton, the woman who came closest to becoming a major party presidential nominee, is a feminist icon, could something similar be said of Michele Bachmann, who officially launched her presidential campaign on Monday?
Bachmann is seldom described in those terms; the conservative Minnesota congresswoman and Tea Party darling might cringe at the feminist label.
But some religion and politics experts say that she exemplifies an evangelical feminism that is producing more female leaders in Christian nonprofits, businesses, and education and politics, even as more traditional gender roles prevail in evangelical homes and churches.
“It’s not that evangelical feminism is entirely new,” says R. Marie Griffith, director of the John C. Danforth Center on Religion & Politics at Washington University in St. Louis. “But this lack of fear going into top positions of power is new and astonishing and exciting for this segment of the population.”
Though evangelical women have long been involved in political activism, including helping to lead the temperance movement and campaigning for and against women's right to vote, seeking the White House is a more recent and dramatic step.
“It’s a trend that was started by Sarah Palin,” Griffith said, referring to the former Alaska governor, who was the Republican vice presidential nominee in 2008.
D. Michael Lindsay, a scholar who has studied evangelical leaders, says that evangelical feminism largely followed the trend in secular feminism, even if it was delayed by a decade or so.
“Evangelicals are not traditionally the innovators in gender roles, so they’re not going to be at the vanguard,” says Lindsay, who was recently appointed president at Gordon College and who wrote the book Faith in the Halls of Power. “But they also don’t trail too far behind.”
Lindsay says that evangelical feminism took off in the 1980s, pointing to Ronald Reagan tapping Elizabeth Dole, a Christian with strong connections in the evangelical world, to be his secretary of transportation as one example.
George W. Bush, meanwhile, appointed evangelical women to top roles in his presidential administration, including Karen Hughes as a top adviser and Condoleezza Rice as secretary of state.
At the same time, there are distinctions between evangelical and secular feminism. Many female evangelical leaders, for instance, talk of being called by God to pursue professional careers.
“This idea of women being out in the world when they’re doing God’s work – that’s the key,” says Griffith, who is author of God's Daughters: Evangelical Women and the Power of Submission. “You have to be called.”
Bachmann, an evangelical Lutheran, has talked of being called to run for president.
“When I pray, I pray believing that God will speak to me and give me an answer to that prayer, and so that’s what a calling is,” she told CBS News on Sunday, explaining that she had prayed about her decision to seek the presidency. “If I pray, a calling means that I have a sense from God which direction I’m supposed to go.”
Another difference between some evangelical and secular feminists is a public emphasis on motherhood. Bachmann’s political identity is constructed largely around her role as a mother of five kids and her experience of taking in 23 foster children.
Palin, who was raised in the Pentecostal tradition, has also emphasized her role as mother, frequently discussing her children and famously using the term “mama grizzlies” to describe female political candidates for whom she campaigns.
Lindsay says that the motherhood angle could be refreshing to evangelical voters, who constitute a majority of the Republican electorate in early states like Iowa and South Carolina.
“A lot of male evangelical politicians have trumpeted family values, but we’ve seen time after time how many break their marriage vows and have tense relationships with their kids,” he says.
“When you’re the mother of four or five kids up there talking about how their commitment to politics stems from your commitment to kids, which is true for both Palin and Bachmann, that resonates with people who are skeptical of American politics.”
The emphasis that some women evangelical leaders place on motherhood appears to be connected to women taking on more prominent roles in the antiabortion movement, which is closely tied to the evangelical subculture.
“There were a lot of women who were representing the old guard abortion center feminism and there were very few pro-life women who were credentialed in state legislatures and running at the federal level,” says Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the antiabortion group Susan B. Anthony List, describing the organization’s founding 20 years ago.
Dannenfelser’s group works to elect women candidates who oppose abortion rights, raising roughly $11 million in the 2010 election cycle.
“The constant line from Jane Fonda and Barbara Boxer on abortion was ‘You can’t possibly know how a woman feels - how dare you speak on an issue you have no knowledge of,'” says Dannenfelser, referring to the pro-abortion rights actress and U.S. senator.
“Now we have women communicating the truth of the matter, which is that abortion is really destroying a lot of women,” she says.
Though Bachmann is widely considered to be a long shot for the GOP nomination, a weekend poll from The Des Moines Register had her running second only to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney among likely Republican caucus-goers, with 22% support.
Even as more evangelical women pursue top jobs in politics, there is little sign that they will be invited into similar roles in evangelical churches, which continue to be led by men, with some exceptions. Some evangelical denominations, including Southern Baptists, have recently moved to put more restrictions on women serving as pastors.
“It seems to me that most evangelical congregations make a sharp divide between the sacred and secular realms,” says Lindsay, “so that church is the last context where you’ll see women in ordained roles.”
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I am not sure any of the women mentioned would be thrilled with the "Evangelical Feminist" label. Does anyone call themselves a Feminist any more? Seems the term has a pretty broad negative connotation these days.
The education of Michele B. continues:
In case she is "reading challenged": (all caps just in case she wants to post it on her bulletin board)
THERE NEVER WAS AND NEVER WILL BE ANY ANGELS I.E. NO GABRIEL, NO ISLAM AND THEREFORE NO MORE KORANIC-DRIVEN ACTS OF HORROR AND TERROR
THERE WAS AND NEVER WILL BE ANY BODILY RESURRECTIONS I.E. NO EASTER, NO CHRISTIANITY
ABRAHAM AND MOSES PROBABLY NEVER EXISTED.
Added details upon request.
Are you sure you're educated yourself? You make so many 100% statements, yet you have nothing to back them up but your opinions. Your first statement-pure opinion, and the part of your prediction of no more Koranic driven acts of terror is laughable. Do you think because Osama Bin Laden was captured that the extremist Muslims who believe in the Koran have stopped plotting terror altogether?
Your next statement regarding the resurrection when there were eye witness accounts recorded in the Bible added to the fact that the body of Jesus was never discovered is just your opinion. You predict that there will be no more Christianity-so, we're playing fortune teller are we?
Your last statement, "Abraham and Moses probably never existed" is probably your most truthful statement since you used the word "PROBABLY"; however, there are Jews who can trace their lineage to Judah or Levi. The Cohanim in particular can trace back to Aharon, brother of MOSES, who was from Levi. Abraham claimed to be from Ur. Guess what? The town of Ur was found and first excavated (1854-55) by the British consul J. E. Taylor.
At most, your statements are opinions (which you are portraying as fact), and your predictions are hilarious. I guess you need to get an education. Did I add enough details? ;)
That last sentence was yours to show how ridiculous your post is.
Moses is mentioned in Egyptian writings.
Only for the those interested in a religious update:
1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482
"New Torah For Modern Minds
Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.
Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.
The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment.
2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.
The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.
For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".
Current RCC problems:
Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!
3. Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).
Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,
4. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.
This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.
And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.
The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.
She is a conservative so let the labeling and intense scrutiny begin. Let me guess. She is dumb, flaky, a hater etc...The press will tear her apart and liberals said the same thing about Reagan, Bush and any other conservative who appears on the national scene. Meanwhile mental midgets like Joe Biden and Howard Dean are painted as brilliant men with a deep world view. In the end I don't think she has enough life experience to be a good President. We need someone with the wisdom of years but make no mistake Bachmann is a lot smarter and a lot more useful to society than Pelosi, Weiner or Reed
She has more years in service than Obama had. What was he before he became president? A one term senator, a state politician and a community organizer... Oh but he's cool and a smooth talker... hire em.
The best part of Bachmann was a stain on her parent's sheets.
I'm glad somebody brought up Barrack Obama's experience. When the majority of voters elected Obama did most of those voters have ANY idea how inexperienced he was or how little we knew about him. The only thing we knew about Barrack Obama was he was a community organizer (whatever that is), had written his memoirs with no accomplishments to speak of, and had never really had a job other than state senator that he skated in due to someone dropping out of the race. Oh yeah, also that he voted to uphold partial birth abortion and NOT to raise the debt ceiling on a couple of the few votes he cast in the US Senate.
Although I'm completely on the other side of the political spectrum than you appear to be, but I am in agreement with your comment regarding the labeling. I don't think Michele Bachmann or Reagan are dumb, and I do think that Dean and Biden are not the brightest bulbs in the box. I will disagree on Bush, though. He is not a smart man–which is why he was liked by so many like him. There is just way, way to much supporting evidence to show he is not so bright either.
How did you guess she was 'flaky?' Does that word just naturally come up when you think of her? 'Angry and confused' is more like it. I fear that she could be a danger to herself and others.
"no accomplishments to speak of" He has three gosh darn university degrees, and he made As. I had to go to four different community colleges to get one degree, and stop making fun of my job as a community organizer! For pete's sake, it's all I can get now and I'm going to quit soon. I wish I could get elected Senator.
A community works with members of the community to address problems they face. It is not the community organizers job to target specific problems but to work towards the resolution of problems the community identifies. In Obama's case he helped established a job retraining program and helped community members organize and understand how they could address the problem of landlords not meeting the basic building safety codes that they were required to meet by law. He presented information and legal courses of action for community members to take to pressure those who were supposed to enforce these safety codes to do so.
I hope this helps you understand the role of a community organizer.
To put "evangelical" and "feminist" together in the same sentence is sinful!
Evangelicals preach that women should be subservient to men – that is in NO way, shape, or form feminism.
Can't stand Michele Bachmann...what she believes....what she stands for.....if she weren't pretty she wouldn't get a second listen from the conservatives or anyone else.
However, as much as I am against her politically, it drives me crazy that she is immediately labeled as "a flake", or not smart just because she is a woman. Sarah Palin deserved everything she got-but Michele Bachmann is clearly no dope like Sarah Palin.....
She is just plain mean and wrong.
Unsubstantiated claims... how is she mean. How is she wrong? if she says she feels individuals should be empowered versus empowering a central governemtn is that such a bad thing? I think the evangelical twist is a side bar for CNN to stir the pot. OMG, I just realized our president is black and attended a radical church!... A headline like that would have been just as rediculous as this being the focal point of an article.
She is mean, and she is wrong. There are numerous quotes to support that...I'm not going to waste my time looking them up because you support her religious based agenda.
She "feels individuals should be empowered"? You mean individuals should fend for themselves, regardless of the poverty ridden lives they were born into. Of course the rich and priveleged always want "individual empowerment". That means let me keep everything for myself and to hell with those who weren't born into money. Of course, it's ok when those conservatives want government money to build stadiums, etc....
The best quote ever from The West Wing. Yeah, the conservatives always claim they want small government. They want it just small enough to fit into our bedrooms."
You call it small government when someone else benefits from it financially, or has their rights protected by the government. But when goverment programs benefit you, then you are in favor of it.
You can't claim to be a feminist and not support women's rights! Women need to look past the Great Lie of the Church. Women are manipulated into believing that they should be submissive and subservient. They are also manipulated into believing that they should not control their own bodies. True feminism defies the roles placed on women by the church. Bachmann is an anti-feminist. If you think she's a feminist, then you do not know what a feminist is. She is a woman and a Republican and in a position of power, but that does not make her a feminist. A feminist stands up for other women and their rights. I love how bible thumpers try to twist things to their perspective, but it simply isn't true!
So educate me... if your braw is not smoldering, and you like men, and you are not angry and you are against killing baby girls you can't be a feminist?
What yo'rer saying is feminism is based on abortion rights.
Woman all over the world are up in arms about this submit word. Funny how in the same pas.sage, the bible instructs men to love their wives. Why don't women rebel against that?
180° backwords thinking... some of you liberals are tottally against conventional thinking. If you would have lived in communist./ socialist countries, you would have been a good communist party Member. .
Dan, good heavens man, if you'd been brought up as a Muslim you would be a Muslim, and if you were brought up to be a Communist you'd be a Communist! I bet you were brought up to be Christian, and what are you now?
Wow. Great comeback. Not even close to the same thing. Sounds like you have a problem with women wanting to be with you. Do you need them to submit so you can feel like you have some sense of control or power? Funny how the bible includes stories only by men.
Marriage is a partnership. Each person should have equal say in the decisions that are made.
I love to see the Feminist Orthodoxy, and their hangers-on, get so upset about this. It reminds me of how Feminism lost so many mainstream women in the early 80's when they attempted to co-opt the AIDS and Gay Rights movement. You guys feel so threatened if these women choose to empower themselves according to their own beliefs and standards. I thought that was how feminism got started in the first place. Or is it mandated somewhere that they have to be hostile to everything mainstream?
I am proud to be a feminist. At least I'm not a sell-out!
Evangelical Feminist is a contradiction. First I was going to say it is an oxymoron, but no, this is an absolute contradiction. Perhaps if an atheist feminist is hell-bent to preach feminism to others, then perhaps the term makes sense. Bachmann appears to me to be more of a feminine evangelical, and there is CLEARLY a difference between an evangelical and a feminist. They are not, nor could they ever be one and the same.
I am really curious as to how you would define a feminist.
Actually they go togetehr if you go back to the start of Christianity many of Jesus' priminant followers were women. He certainly didn't place them rungs down on the ladder. He did choose men as his apostles but to serve the community but if you read the Bible women have always played a key role. if your definition of feminist means in your face lesbian, hands off my body, I never met an abortion I didnt like then perhaps you are correct.
A GOP definition of feminist: An attractive leather and latex wearing female dominatrix who won't tie them up and do naughty things to them.
Jazmin, you are a dumbfckin troll! Just Google it up, if you are so ignorant.
I doubt Jazmin has any curiosity at all.
THAT would be a serious oxymoron!
depends on who writes the definition.dont expect anything more than smear from the left wing media.still no cnn headline on george soros trying to buy a judiciary,still no headline on the atf whistle blower.they must think these stories are connected to rev.wright.or van jones.
The same group of blubbering idiots who call anyone railing against Wall Street crimes "Marxist" or "Socialist" now call a female politician a "feminist". FEMINISM aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights and equal opportunities for women. Saying Gawd told woman to STFU and listen to her "man" is not a feminist, but the opposite, a misogynist. Michelle BAchmann is an evangelical misogynist. She advocates woman's role as defined in old religious scriptures. Class dismissed.
Well said, GOP Hypocrisy, and will you please be my new best friend now?
It takes a villiage to raise a child. Looks like Michelle helped out on 23 children. That must make her Hilary's good friend
" She has the dull look of a trapped animal."
I'm pretty sure Hillary's preference for the 23 would have been to abort them.
Capitalism, at least try to be funny, or witty, or something. You're like a little kid trying join an adult conversation, but honey, we're talking right now. Can't you play with your trucks or something? It's like a dog barking, rawr rawr rawr.
CNN the liberal Blog……Number one priority is to instill doubt and suspension of all GOP candidates and the CNN readers (I mean Lemmings) follow their blogs all the way off the cliff….
Liberals are at least as offended as conservatives by this article although for different reasons.
In order to lead a country you have to be able to listen to other people's point of view and understand that you may not always be right. Evangelical christians have no concept of this. Thet also cannot help but try and push their own morals on the rest of us because it is imprinted on them to do so. Her husband referred to gays and lesbians as barbarians. If she can be married to that big of a moron she can't be too far behind.
You are why she should be president. You have no clue what it is to be a Christian. You and all liberals are so far removed from reality. Barney Frank the face of liberal masculinity.
no pun intended but Amen.
wow,you just described progressives.
The problem with saying "God told me to do it" is that means no good person can then disagree with whatever it is you're doing–after all, those who do are going against God's will.
That defense doesn't play out too well in criminal court.
Right, but by then, the damage is done. My view is that if God wants something to happen, it'll happen–the trouble starts when people, whether presidential candidates or terrorists, start thinking they are God's employee of the month.
eegads!, looks like shes about to kick someone's azz
Over 50% of all abortions kill a female
Too bad they missed Bachmann and Palin.
bachmanntwit, you give liberals a bad name. Dont be a hater
Sure, and you know this how? 65% of internet statistics are totally made-up.
Just when I thought Palin had finally shut up, we get another one of these ditzy women who think they have the smarts to be president. Her run for the presidency has to be a joke. How much more embarrassment can the republican party swallow. Aren't there are any smart Republican women or ones that dont have some half-assed religious agenda? The Tea Party folks keep yelling about too much government, and yet these people want to tell you what God you should believe in, who you can love and marry and what to do with your body. Doesn't sound like less government to me. Go away Bachman, we don't need any more hate-filled agendas or your ridiculous opinions. Go back to your Leave it to Beaver life.
There are plenty of smart republican women but they generally want actual political careers rather then these circuses.
LIz, it seems as though you're the hater here. What angry feminism you have adopted. Michelle Bachmann doesn't want to tell you to do anything. She wants to get this country back on the road to prosperity. Something this president has failed miserably at.
Bachman ditzy? Do you have any idea what her background is? Of course you dont because the far left media wont educate you.
LIz, are you really a girl or just pretending to be one?
Liz must be a cross-dresser. What a libtard. Has no idea about the education and background of the person she/he is insulting. This is typical liberalism at its worst. Sorry lizzy but you are the uneducated one here.
I hate when people assume someone is ditzy because they have a different point-of-view. Yes, it's true she believes in fairy tales and she doesn't have my support because of that. However, she does seem to be a smart woman. THere are many very smart people who compartmentalize when it comes to religion. Somehow they are rational and smart in all other facets of their life until it comes to the invisible guy in the sky. I don't get it, but that doesn't mean she's ditzy. That's quite demeaning.
Ditzy? I'd have said grim and obsessed. She's got those glittering eyes and she looks like she's hearing voices all the time. Maybe a giant rabbit is giving her instructions?
"Ditzy women"? As in Sec of State?? Just asking
Jazmin thinks he knows what a "girl" is-probably ought to be pretty submissive. Yes c, we do know her background. Ditzy is just about correct: Bachman doesn't realize that evolution is no more theory than is relativity. (And what does Wiener have to do with it, c????)
Great another person who claims God directs her like GWB, just what we need.
Terri, you are so right. I want Anthony Weiner to direct my morals
I too thought of Jr. when I read this article.
She didn't say God directed her. Liberals have no faith. What a sad way to live. God is for you, not against you.
Or how about another Newt Gingrich? Which wife is he on now?
Terri wake up. Anything is better than what we have now. Grab ankles and remove head.
Do you have faith in just anyone who claims a close relationship with God, or do you vet them a little before judging them to be authentic? Politicians need to earn my faith; I don't give it away freely.
CM, Gingrich had to give his current wife half a million dollars worth of jewelry and a ten-day cruise; word is that he got caught and had to pay. Who will be the next Mrs. G, and will the voters forgive him again?
It's not that liberals don't have any faith, it's just hard to believe in something that hasn't been proven.
Yes God is for you. He will remain invisible for millions of years and then he will amazingly appear just before he sends you to hell to burn for eternity. Why? Because he loves you. It's amazing what stories you can come up with after wondering the desert for days.
What's sad is that because I'm not religious I'm sure she looks down on me. Most Christians do. You think we're less of a human being because of it and don't try to tell me different. I believe non-Christians can and do have a deeper moral standard because we don't hide behind our god when we make mistakes. A good moral compass comes from good morals, not a religious belief. Many non-believers believe that we need to fix our society from a non-religious viewpoint because it's impossible to do so with religion involved. People like Mrs. Bachmann view the poor and non-secular as broken and would take help away from those who need it most because they don't line up with her beliefs.
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Evangelical feminist? More like evangelical extremist.
Looks like Dan is carrying the water for the left. Typical liberal tactic when you are afraid of a solid opponent you label them extreme and radical yet you give a pass to your extreme and radical president.
uh, she is the leader of the Tea Party movement, is she not? And last I checked, they're kind of insane.
Cap, actually he's just talking. Your post contains right-wing talking points:
carrying the water for the left
Typical liberal tactic
you are afraid of a solid opponent
you label them extreme and radical
you give a pass to your extreme and radical president
Your post sounds like something you are being paid to say, while his is just blah blah. Do they pay you pretty good?
And they say conservatives are filled with hate. Hypocrits – Barney Frank the face of liberal masculinity.
CNN had to call her something. I do not like Bachmann due to little experience for president but she shows the best leadership right now.
The last part of your post was a joke, right?
Surely you jest, sir.
But you did not have an issue with the little experience of OBlunder right?
At least "OBlunder" isn't batcrap crazy like this broad. Do a little research on this chick and you'll find some pretty dark things.
the fact that this woman is running for president is a joke and an insult. We have lowered the bar sooooooo low that my dog can run for president and get elected, you might argue about Obama being not ready either but it wouldnt make it false.
Fact is we need people like engineers, scientists, biologists, people that are actually smart in congress and as presidents so we get some REAL scientific based solutions to our problems not a bunch of business people an politicians running the show and no wonder we are where we are. lawyers and business men are very bad leaders, take all of whats happening as proof of this.
How do you get the taste out of your mouth after you blow your dog?
Sooo, your dog is a scientist and he can beat our prz. good job moron.
ClamLover = Phucking idiot.
"take all of whats happening as proof of this" I'll wait and see if your fricken dog becomes president before I pay attention to any more of your nonsense.
yes and all of those types would never have an agenda.cmon.
Doctrinal Statement from Bachmann's church. That doesn't sound very feminist to me.
'"...However, Scripture is also clear that while we are equal in status and importance before him, God has not made us duplicates or clones of each other in how we carry out our various God-given callings. Already in the perfection of the Garden of Eden he assigned unique callings or roles to the man and the woman when God made her to be helper suitable for the man and created her right from the man (Genesis 2:18ff). God gave to the man the unique calling of being a loving head and to his wife the unique calling of being a loving helper to him. In the New Testament, the inspired Apostle Paul assures us that these unique callings were indeed found already in the perfection of Eden when he writes, "Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God" (1 Corinthians 11:3). Later Paul reminds us that what we read in Genesis 2 is indeed where this was established when he says, "For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman but woman for man" (1 Corinthians 11:8-9).'
Are you serious? Now you're trying to disqualify Bachmann on Bible scripture. Where were you when Barrack Obama got a pass on his GD America church?
jweller, how do you know what Mrs Bachmanns role is in her home? She has raised her children, and then some. Now God is calling her to do something that will benefit the family/ all families. So why do you quote Scripture out of text. In fact I do believe Scripture refers to two things, woman being teachers and experienced women leading the younger women. That sounds like what Bachman is doing. I am not saying I will vote for her. I am saying it is pathetic that society has come down to adolescent behavior when it comes to elections. Particularly news outlets.
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