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Dutch ban on Jewish, Muslim butchering passes hurdle
June 28th, 2011
12:10 PM ET

Dutch ban on Jewish, Muslim butchering passes hurdle

From Eileen Hsieh, CNN

Dutch lawmakers Tuesday approved an animal-rights measure that would ban Jewish and Muslim methods of ritual slaughter, the Parliament press office said.

It must now go to the Senate for a vote, which will likely happen in September, press officer Leon Van Schie told CNN.

The Dutch Party for the Animals proposed closing a loophole in the Dutch law that allows Jews and Muslims to kill animals that have not been anesthetized first.

"The Party for the Animals believes that freedom of religion must end where animal suffering begins," leader Marianne Thieme wrote on her blog before the measure went to a vote Tuesday.

Stunning animals before butchering is not allowed by Jewish or Muslim law.

David Zwartz, the chairman of the Wellington Jewish Council, fought successfully against a similar proposal in New Zealand last year.

He said that for Jews, the Dutch measure would be "an attack on their freedom to practice their religion in a way that they have done for thousands of years."

He compared the proposal to Nazi-era laws.

"The banning of shechita was introduced as an anti-Jewish law by the Nazis in Germany three months after they came into power in 1933," said Zwartz, using the Hebrew word for Jewish ritual slaughter.

"The banning in Nazi German-occupied Poland and the Netherlands was overtly anti-Jewish, " Zwartz said.

"Freedom of religious practice is a hallmark of civilized (and most Western) societies. In New Zealand it is covered by our Bill of Rights Act. For Orthodox Jews, the eating of kosher meat is a central part of their belief," he said.

Britain's Chief Rabbi, Jonathan Sacks, traveled to the Netherlands two weeks ago to lobby against the law.

Abdulfettah Ali-Salah, the director of the Halal Correct Certification organization in the Netherlands, argued that Jewish and Muslim methods of slaughter are humane.

"They claim that ritual killing without stunning cause more pain for the animals then with stunning, but I don't agree," he told CNN.

"Many scientists even don't agree, if ritual slaughtering without stunning happens according to the right procedure," he said.

The ban could force Jews and Muslims to get their meat from other countries, he said.

"Many believers, if they are Jewish, Muslim, have to search for other alternatives - probably import from abroad and from Islamic countries," he said.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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  1. mark

    australia has just stopped all live exports to Indonesia after a current affairs programme showed how the hallal slaughtering happened over there-the australian population went bezerk and the government had a had murmer after the Greens shouted and screamed and closed all live exports-even after the australian government and meat industry has been educating and teaching people over there about humane slaughter-of course they ignored it and did it the way it has been described by a few on this page-we were sick to the stomach -if you treat animals this way -how will you treat fellow humans?Ive seen the way people treat dogs over there, as if they are vermin-that may make a few PEOPLE SAD -MUSLIMS JEWS OR NON BELEIVERS.

    June 29, 2011 at 1:29 am |
  2. Jimbo

    You all saying you don't believe in "inhumane" ritual killing of animals are obviously not very well informed. Go check out a chicken plant that you get your fresh cut up chicken from. They hang upside down while their throats are cut with a revolving blade the size of a bicycle tire. At least the Jews aren't hanging the cows upside down. But I don't hear anybody saying anything to their favorite chicken plant. You aren't eating their cows, so why do you care how they kill them?

    June 29, 2011 at 12:53 am |
  3. Henk

    Ritual animal slaughter does not belong in the 21 century. Especially not in developed nations. The Dutch don`t want these dark age methods. They will close any loopholes that remained. But if you want to kill animals without Stunning them first go live in Libya, Iran, Syria, Yemen or Israel. Nations who have a """"GREAT""""" sense of moral justice and peaceful interaction. Nations who would never build on other Nations territory. Nations who would Never allow dictatorships. Good luck with that. It`s funny how a tiny few complain about this while they can just move to their beloved nations i just mentioned.

    June 29, 2011 at 12:06 am |
    • paltam

      That is correct. If you want to follow your religion, go back to your muslim or jewish country. If you wish to live in the western world, then adopt and live by the rules of the land. Why cant a Church be built in Saudi arabia. Because they tell us it is the rule of the land. Well then, shouldn't the same apply in Western countries. Ban all Muslim mosques, sharia courts, halal meats etc as well as all Jewish practices. Thats fair, aint it?

      June 29, 2011 at 1:07 am |
  4. Methusalem2000

    The most important thing is abstaining from eating meat sacrificed to idols or different gods.
    For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; that ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if you keep yourselves, ye shall do well.

    June 28, 2011 at 11:44 pm |
  5. octopus

    Isn't it amazing to see that Jews and Muslims agree on something?

    June 28, 2011 at 11:21 pm |
  6. AC in DC

    Jewish people and Muslims unite!! Protect your respective religious freedoms! ................. wishful thinking.

    On a side note – I think this is a positive step for animal rights. As a non-vegetarian, I am all for the humane slaughter of animals for food.

    June 28, 2011 at 10:49 pm |
  7. Charles Stevens

    My religion says the meat I eat has to come from an animal that has been slowly killed by dragging it behind a truck going 15 mph until it is dead.
    No it's not cruel, the animal can't even feel it.
    Don't violate my religious rights!

    June 28, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
    • RS

      That's not in ANY religion...so....your post is irrelevant and stupid.

      June 28, 2011 at 10:51 pm |
    • Ted M.

      -RS-
      No, his post is satirical and thus makes some very good points, but only if you are intelligent enough to see them.

      June 28, 2011 at 10:58 pm |
    • Muneef

      Have heard about that happening to men dragged by cars but never an animal I heard of....this was practiced by the com-m-unist party taking over the Ruling after the date the British left Aden 1967... Many of the most intelgents of the Colony were then killed and butchered into pieces filled into gunny bags and left each in front of his house or family house...

      That was fine for humans and acceptable by all means taking over in every country of conflict on every continent, but still so much caring about animals more than humans? So lovely animals and dear to you more than humans? Guess you will endup worshipping it as did the children of Israel on their Exudes lade by Moses....
      Or maybe as some worshiped the cow and so on...We are back to Paganisem as can see...? So easy for those who love animals to sacrifice a human child for their Pagans or Devil Worshippers....how many child sacrificed for the Voodo and Witch Doctor in Africa same heard over in India children were/are used as sacrifices for Pagans&Devil Worshippers...!!?

      So you left all that behind and tell me about how we should make our first kill to an animal that we been doing for centuries? This whole issue is brought up by industrialists since the process of HALAL meats and Process of Pork is costing them a lot of time and procedures they want to save by this ban....stupid thing really where they could have made Two Separate Processing Lines where One for HALAL Meats while the other for Pork and non HALAL meats...where the scales can be built on the demand...! Wouldn't such act would have saved all this division being generated among your unity...?
      http://www.ehalal.org/zabiha.html

      June 29, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
    • Muneef

      We do not want to eat a meat filled with anti biotics and drugs nor an animal meat with blood filled blood vessels..
      We want to eat meat that was killed only after saying in the name of God,God is bigger...otherwise allow us to have our own small butcheries or allow us to make our own slaughter where we live...
      Isn't that right from the rights citizens granted or are you some how squeezing those you do not want out of the country by such acts...why have you opened your doors from the first place to other cultures....Islam is 1400 years old and not a new religion..couldn't you have read the History that repeat it self before opening your doors? Now after many years since the IIWW Many movements made and many generations have taken place and you can't just decide that you have changed your mind...Jews,Muslims and so on to every religion on line...that believes in God or say God is One...!

      June 29, 2011 at 3:23 pm |
  8. gliese42

    Instant death or death with prayers as told by my muslim friends, I suggest semi veggie is a good idea without meat of course

    June 28, 2011 at 9:02 pm |
    • Muneef

      Well tell you I would prefer meats of Sheep and Goats only. I do love Cows Milk and specially milk of those humpback cows shown in the photo above...very thick rich milk tastier than those other types of cows...

      As said we here in the plains love to eat Sheep & Goats but those live in the mountains prefer more the Bulls and veals than sheep and goats...

      Guess because we are in hotter area and they are in colder areas and need that fatty red meat...it is a matter of choice...but really can not imagine my life eating vegetables with out meats,poultry and fish...

      June 28, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
    • gliese42

      Semi Veggie is not that bad with milk and veggie but I admit I am tempted to eat fish but I wouldn't eat because I have seen animals being slaughtered. Bye muneef

      June 28, 2011 at 9:29 pm |
    • Muneef

      gliese42.

      Fish dies out of water so where is the slaughter here?

      June 29, 2011 at 7:57 am |
  9. Muneef

    1. Islamic method of slaughtering animal
    Zakkaytum is a verb derived from the root word Zakah (to purify). Its infinitive is Tazkiyah which means purification. The Islamic mode of slaughtering an animal requires the following conditions to be met:
    a. Animal should be slaughtered with sharp object (knife)
    The animal has to be slaughtered with a sharp object (knife) and in a fast way so that the pain of slaughter is minimised.
    b. Cut wind pipe, throat and vessels of neck
    Zabiha is an Arabic word which means 'slaughtered'. The 'slaughtering' is to be done by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck causing the animal's death without cutting the spinal cord.
    c. Blood should be drained
    The blood has to be drained completely before the head is removed. The purpose is to drain out most of the blood which would serve as a good culture medium for micro organisms. The spinal cord must not be cut because the nerve fibres to the heart could be damaged during the process causing cardiac arrest, stagnating the blood in the blood vessels.
     
    2. Blood is a good medium for germs and bacteria
    Blood is a good media of germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. Therefore the Muslim way of slaughtering is more hygienic as most of the blood containing germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. that are the cause of several diseases are eliminated.
     
    3. Meat remains fresh for a longer time
    Meat slaughtered by Islamic way remains fresh for a longer time due to deficiency of blood in the meat as compared to other methods of slaughtering.
     
    4. Animal does not feel pain
    The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal struggles, writhers, shakes and kicks, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles defecient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body.

    More detailed informations are in this link;
    http://www.ehalal.org/zabiha.html

    June 28, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
    • Mark

      Yeah man whatever you say. Let's slit your neck and see if you feel any pain! All animal including humans feel all pain when they are MURDERED!

      June 28, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
    • Tim

      So Daniel Pearl never felt a thing, huh? Come on, let's be sensible. The slaughter of animals that have not been rendered unconscious is horrifically immoral, and for the sake of our collective moral conscience must be stopped.

      June 28, 2011 at 10:45 pm |
    • RS

      Lol look at what these two clowns posted beneath you. BLATANTLY disregarding any of the facts you have presented. And one of them even went as far as trying to justify the cruelty of an animal dying by saying "let's slit your neck and see how you feel!"

      What a bunch of kids on this comment thread. Good grief.

      June 28, 2011 at 10:53 pm |
    • Chris

      oh brother..(eye's roll).....Ghandi said, you can judge a nation by the way it treats its animals. The Dutch are showing they are a civilized and enlightened nation. I hope America passes a similiar law.

      June 28, 2011 at 11:28 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @Tim

      You said: "The slaughter of animals that have not been rendered unconscious is horrifically immoral, and for the sake of our collective moral conscience must be stopped"

      Consider: If there is a god and he is the god of Abraham...then the animals should be slaughtered as He commands.
      The god of Abraham is the moral lawgiver, isn't He?

      Curious in Arizona

      June 28, 2011 at 11:41 pm |
    • Ted M.

      -Muneef-
      If those are the conditions, then killing the animal in a painless way before slaughtering is not prohibited by your stated beliefs.

      Slaughtering generally means the butchering part, not the ending-of-life part, when speaking of the meat industry.

      Only when speaking of slaughtering people does it mean the act of stopping someone's life.

      The knife is only required to begin the act of draining the blood. There is nothing that says the pain must always exist in the process, correct?
      To minimize the pain, it can be done very easily by painless means before the knife is used to butcher / slaughter the animal.

      It would not be hard to invent a part knife / part painless death device that could be used to stay within all possibilities.
      Or am I misunderstanding the requirements (that some people follow) that you have listed here?

      June 29, 2011 at 12:51 am |
    • Muneef

      Mark.
      I know what am saying but if you are not sure then you should have one to slit yours in order for you to learn more...after all understand the body releases some chemical where no pain is felt...

      June 29, 2011 at 7:47 am |
    • Muneef

      The knife is used to end life drain blood from the body, while the rest of process of cutting to pieces is no problem since the animal already dead and therefore does not feel because dead do not feel a thing...
      The whole idea is not to drug or shock the animal in order heart can remain active to pump blood out strongly...

      June 29, 2011 at 7:54 am |
    • Ted M.

      -Muneef-
      Then why couldn't you guys use a vacuum hose to drain the blood better than any heart could do?
      If the only reason for keeping the heart beating is for the blood to drain, why not use a machine to do it better and faster?
      Then the death can be painless, the throat cut, and the blood drained using a machine, and everyone should be at peace with that or they don't get any dinner.

      June 30, 2011 at 6:42 am |
    • Factchecler

      Pain is not carried by blood vessels, but is routed via the nervous system and spinal cord to the brain. The animal would be feeling extreme pain and fear, but unable to cry out due to having it's throat cut.

      July 23, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
  10. sportreform

    forget drugging them, just have them read this artice and its comments. zzzzzzz. I'm barely alive here.

    June 28, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
  11. Tim

    please pass, please pass, please pass

    June 28, 2011 at 8:33 pm |
  12. Capercorn

    Am I opposed to this measure? Yes. Am I surprised? No. One would assume that dialectical materialism would die with the Soviet Union... Nope! The Marxist invasion of Western Europe has happened folks, and there were no tanks or AKs involved.

    June 28, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
    • Loving God with a knife

      So trying to show a modicom of compassion towards a living creature is anti-religious communism? Interesting logic.

      June 28, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • Capercorn

      Yes. Yes I am saying that anti-religious dialectical materialism is at the core of this legislation. These criticisms would not come up in a society that is not dominated by materialism.

      June 28, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
  13. Stephen bowyer

    Cruelty, which this is, is cruelty,. Jews – change your religion to eliminate this abuse of living, sentient creatures. You, of all people, should understand the meaning of this

    June 28, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
    • Loving God with a knife

      To show our true compassion to the animals, we circu-mcise them first.

      June 28, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
    • OgreX

      Yes...let's make sure the animal feels okay about itself....before we kill, butcher, and eat it. Makes a lot of sense.

      June 28, 2011 at 8:24 pm |
    • Capercorn

      I see what you did thar. You dropped the word "sentient." There is no evidence to suggest that bovine are sentient in any way/shape/form.

      June 28, 2011 at 8:25 pm |
    • Merriam Webster

      You need a better dictionary. There is no animal that is not sentient.

      June 28, 2011 at 8:40 pm |
  14. Muneef

    Wow what we have here!!

    Didn't know that in Islam any rituals other than;
    – To take direction towards Mecca.
    – The Knife has to be very sharp in suitable length.
    – The Butcher has to have a swift strong cut to neck cutting line of breath allowing the whole blood to be released out of the body.
    – Butcher only has to say before commencing the kill " In the name of God,God is Bigger" " in Arabic " Bismillah Allah Akber". 
    That is all to it really...have heard in the poultry butcheries have written that on the blades and that how it became HALAL.. it is nothing to it really...the use of shocking or drugging will only weaken the heart from pumping blood out cleaning the body from it all.. They only difference that we as per the Holy Books are prohibited from blood, for release of blood heart has to work strong but when being shocked or drugged is as  good as dead and that is forbidden to butcher or consume. Beside blood remaining in brings all the diseases known or unknown...we can eat the liver but not eat or drink the blood...
      as the verses I will quote will explain please;

    Only Four Meats Prohibited*
    [2:172] O you who believe, eat from the good things we provided for you, and be thankful to GOD, if you do worship Him alone.

    [2:173] He only prohibits for you the eating of animals that die of themselves (without human interference), blood, the meat of pigs, and animals dedicated to other than GOD. If one is forced (to eat these), without being malicious or deliberate, he incurs no sin. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

    June 28, 2011 at 7:26 pm |
    • Muneef

      Only Four Meats Prohibited 
      "Animals that die of themselves" Defined
      [5:3] Prohibited for you are animals that die of themselves, blood, the meat of pigs, and animals dedicated to other than GOD. (Animals that die of themselves include those) str-angled, str-uck with an object, fallen from a height, go-red, attacked by a wild animal – unless you save your animal before it dies – and animals sacrificed on alt-ars. Also prohibited is dividing the meat through a game of chance; this is an abomination. Today, the disbelievers have given up concerning (the era-dica-tion of) your religion; do not fear them and fear Me instead. Today, I have completed your religion, perfected My blessing upon you, and I have decreed Submission as the religion for you. If one is forced by famine (to eat prohibited food), without being deliberately sinful, then GOD is Forgiver, Merciful.

      [5:4] They consult you concerning what is lawful for them; say, "Lawful for you are all good things, including what trained dogs and falcons catch for you." You train them according to GOD's teachings. You may eat what they catch for you, and mention GOD's name thereupon. You shall observe GOD. GOD is most efficient in reckoning.

      [5:5] Today, all good food is made lawful for you. The food of the people of the scripture is lawful for you, [and your food is lawful for them]*. Also, you may marry the cha-ste women among the believers, as well as the cha-ste women among the followers of previous scripture, provided you pay them their due dowries. You shall maintain cha-sti-ty, not committing adu-ltery, nor taking secret lovers. Anyone who rejects faith, all his work will be in vain, and in the Hereafter he will be with the losers.
      ----–

      June 28, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
    • Muneef

      Chance to Remember God: 
      Mention God's Name Before You Eat
      [6:119] Why should you not eat from that upon which GOD's name has been mentioned? He has detailed for you what is prohibited for you, unless you are forced. Indeed, many people mislead others with their personal opinions, without knowledge. Your Lord is fully aware of the transgressors.

      [6:120] You shall avoid obvious sins, as well as the hidden ones. Those who have earned sins will surely pay for their transgressions.

      [6:121] Do not eat from that upon which the name of GOD has not been mentioned, for it is an abomination. The devils inspire their allies to argue with you; if you obey them, you will be idol worshipers.

      [6:122] Is one who was dead and we granted him life, and provided him with light that enables him to move among the people, equal to one in total darkness from which he can never exit? The works of the disbelievers are thus adorned in their eyes.

      [6:123] We allow the leading criminals of every community to plot and scheme. But they only plot and scheme against their own souls, without perceiving.

      June 28, 2011 at 7:33 pm |
    • Muneef

      Prohibiting Lawful Food Brings Deprivation

      [16:112] GOD cites the example of a com-m-unity that used to be secure and prosperous, with provisions coming to it from everywhere. But then, it turned unappreciative of GOD's blessings. Consequently, GOD caused them to taste the hardships of star-v-ation and inse-c-urity. Such is the re-quit-al for what they did.

      [16:113] A messenger had gone to them from among them, but they rejected him. Consequently, the retri-b-ution struck them for their transgression.

      [16:114] Therefore, you shall eat from GOD's provisions everything that is lawful and good, and be appreciative of GOD's blessings, if you do worship Him alone.

      Only Four Foods Prohibited

      [16:115] He only prohibits for you dead animals, blood, the meat of pigs*, and food which is dedicated to other than GOD. If one is forced (to eat these), without being deliberate or mali-ci-ous, then GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

      [16:116] You shall not utter lies with your own tongues stating: "This is lawful, and this is unlawful," to fabricate lies and attribute them to GOD. Surely, those who fabricate lies and attribute them to GOD will never succeed.
      -----

      June 28, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
    • Yet another good reason to stay out of the Middle East

      Well that didn't sound like the creepy supersti-tions of ancient ignorant peasants from the Middle East or anything.

      June 28, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • Muneef

      What in it that looks creepy to you ? Nor there is any superstation in it..?!

      June 28, 2011 at 7:55 pm |
    • Muneef

      If you investigate it carefully through net you will find that it is spiritually and scientifically right and heathy...

      June 28, 2011 at 9:31 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @Muneef

      You quoted: "[5:3] Prohibited for you are animals that die of themselves, blood, the meat of pigs, and animals dedicated to other than GOD."

      I like pork. I like my steaks rare. I would eat meat dedicated to Elvis if it tasted good. I think I would make a poor Muslim.

      Cheers!

      June 28, 2011 at 10:08 pm |
    • Muneef

      David J.

      It means butchering the animal has to be not dedicated to idols...well about pork it is not healthy in the long run....about any other meats it is ok to eat rare...actully we say the best grilled meat is that sweats,(meaning half done,being Juicy)....while for fish we say the best is that has burned (meaning well cooked).

      June 29, 2011 at 7:40 am |
  15. randar1969

    Anyone here want to have surgery without being anesthetized?

    If you answer with Yes i applaud your bravery then for me you can go ahead and eat kosjer or halal as well.
    For everyone else that don't like extra pain so should you give animals the same right, religion has nothing to do with it in my mind if it was their believe the should be anesthetized i would have no problems with it.

    June 28, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
    • Varangian

      The problem with your "surgery" analogy is that you're supposed to be alive during the operation, whereas the animal is supposed to be killed as quickly as you can manage.

      June 29, 2011 at 12:18 am |
  16. GSA

    @Peace2All – great post. Nice to hear from you again, all is well in Edmonton, hope things are good for you?
    I agree with your stance completely, I think I was just trying to get the point across that this is an issue all around the World but this instance involving Muslims (and Jews as well) is great for headlines and getting hits so that is why it is being talked about on CNN. Although they are here to get the news out that ppl want to talk about so I guess it's just their form of supply and demand.

    I feel hypocritical at times, I love animals and do not want to cause harm to any animal yet I love all types of meat....especially beef, BBQ burgers, YUMMY!

    June 28, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
  17. OhYesItsMario

    I think this law is a very good step towards trying to make Holland less attractive to Muslims. I think most people who live outside Holland don't know what happens to the Muslims who live here. Instead of integrating into our society, they expect our society to integrate into theirs, yes, they live here. They do not want to follow our tradition or norms, and if you tell them something about it, they're going to call you a racist and most probably they're gonna tell you that they have the freedom of practicing their religion. Yet, if I go a Muslim country, I barely have the chance to practice my religion and they would DEMAND that I follow their religion. Muslims In Holland tend to hate the West and democracy, yet they live in a democratic and civilized world. Sorry for the Jews that will get affected by this law, but I think in one way or another, we need to stop the islamisation of Europe. That's why I support laws like these

    June 28, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
    • R135

      Well, the Dutch Colonist didn't integrate in to Indonesian society but rather plundered the resources of the country. It's pay back time, for the sins of your forefathers.Get over it...haha

      June 28, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
    • OhYesItsMario

      Funny you should say that because my forefathers were in fact Indonesians from Java :). I am in fact a pure-blooded Javaan (like they say it in Dutch) My point is that if you're going to live in a country, try to learn and adapt the culture and traditions of the country that you're going to live in. Try to blend in with the rest of the society. I wasn't even born here, but I accepted to be part of it, that's why I decided to come here. There's nothing wrong if you're from a foreign country and you try to stay with a little bit of your own tradition. But if you're a foreigner who doesn't want any cultural influence from the country that you live in, then what's the point of living in that particular country? Why don't you head back to your own country?

      June 28, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
    • wjs

      Mario, that also a step towards making Holland less attractive to Jews. It is, to my understanding, also a repeat of abuses that were imposed open upon the Dutch and other peoples by the Nazis during World War II. (You remember what happened during World War II, don't you?) ... and you call this progress?

      June 28, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
  18. alumette

    Please God...when are we going to stop slaughtering animals to fatten ourselves ???? it is so wrong and nothing short of murder. Their pain and their fear are identical to what we would experience ourselves under similar conditions. Humans are doomed. We have done too much wrong to our planet, the vegetation and animal life. At some point, we will have to be accountable for our crimes....maybe sooner than we think.

    June 28, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
    • Wesley

      Don't appeal to God... he clearly gave humans permission to slaughter and eat meat from all animals.

      June 28, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @alumette

      In time, as the earth's population increases, we won't have enough room to raise cattle. There is talk of eating insects and algae. I think I will finish out the rest of my life eating steak and hamburgers and ribs. Mmmmm.... And an occasional six pack of beer. I don't feel a lot of guilt for doing this. Sorry...

      Cheers!

      June 28, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
  19. Edward

    This is overdue. A positive step in the right direction.

    June 28, 2011 at 5:42 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Why? To protect animals or to hurt a certain religious group?

      June 28, 2011 at 6:30 pm |
  20. Isaac

    In the 1880s anti-Semites joined forces with Animal Protection Societies to campaign for anti-shechita legislation to be passed in Switzerland Germany and Scandinavia. Isaac Dembo, a Russian physician and a member of the St Petersburg Animal Protection decided to discover for himself the truth of various allegations made concerning the best way to modify slaughtering procedures to minimise suffering. He made trips to various slaughterhouses in Europe to study the methods then in use and came to the conclusion that the Jewish method of slaughtering animals (Shechita) was, in fact, the most painless method of all. He refuted a number of fallacious arguments put forward in the public debates with clear explanations based on anatomy and physiology. These arguments and their refutations still surface in the objections made to shechita today. One is that as the vertebral arteries of bovines cannot be severed because of the animal's anatomy, oxygenated blood continues to be transported to the brain prolonging consciousness.

    June 28, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
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