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Atheists flying ad campaign meets strong resistance
June 30th, 2011
06:41 PM ET

Atheists flying ad campaign meets strong resistance

By Katie Glaeser, CNN

(CNN)–It's a battle of belief - and the right not to believe - in a country founded on freedom.

"I'm a patriotic American. I served my country. I get out there and celebrate the Fourth, too," Blair Scott, who calls himself a proud atheist, proclaimed.

"This America belongs to everyone."

Blair, the communications director for the New Jersey-based American Atheists, said atheists in the United States often feel alienated and face accusations of being anti-American because of their lack of belief in God.

To combat those notions, his group is using Independence Day to say atheists love their country, too.

But the way they're spreading their message might have Americans looking to the sky this Fourth of July and finding something besides fireworks to stir emotion.

Planes with banners that read "God-LESS America" or "Atheism is Patriotic" will be flying over 27 states on Monday. While people might be leery to see the messages overhead, the $23,000 campaign has had a struggle with those who are supposed to bring it to life.

Justin Jaye of Fly Signs Aerial Advertising, who is orchestrating the flights for American Atheists, said out of the 85 people in the country who fly these sign-pulling planes only about 17 have agreed to fly the messages.

"I've been in this business for 20 years and I've never run into so much resistance on people flying," Jaye said. "I've had pilots who are actual atheists who said, 'Justin, I am an atheist and I won't fly it because I can't wear a bulletproof vest.'"

Dave Silverman, president of American Atheists, says the reaction to the organization's campaign before it takes off shows how much work the group still needs to do. "This is a clear reminder of why we need to keep fighting because the bigotry against us is so thick that a lot of the pilots are afraid to fly our banners," he said.

Jaye said while some feared for their lives, others feared for their marriages. He had one pilot say his wife would divorce him if he made the flight.

Red Calvert, a pilot and president of Pro-Air Enterprises in Indianapolis, said his reasons to decline the flight were based on his personal beliefs.

"I respect our country and I respect our churches and we've got enough problems in our country without stirring up some more," he said. "If those people want to do something they believe in, fine, just don't include me."

The American Atheists hope to draw attention and spur public discussion through their campaign on Monday.

"It's going to remind people that atheism is at that ballgame and at that beach and at that parade. We are patriotic people," Silverman said.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • New Jersey • Religious liberty • United States

soundoff (2,835 Responses)
  1. PastorsKid

    I was going to suggest that perhaps signs with more words would be clearer and more effective. But after reading the comments here, I'm not so sure.

    The signs described could come across as "only athiests are patriots". Which is just as exclusionary as "only christians are patriots", and doesn't really solve anything.

    ...but if some of the so-called christians are going to rudely attack the atheists no matter what, then it is understandable that the atheists would be rudely defensive.

    July 1, 2011 at 9:33 am |
    • William Demuth

      We have been rude in the past.

      Now we are organized, and intend to drive a stake through the heart of the darkness that is Christianity.

      We are wealthier, better educated and more motivated than you.

      What we lacked was political connection, but we are taking that now.

      You see there are more of us than you. Millions of your fellow Christians no longer believe the lies but have been terrified to come out of the closet.

      Just like the gays before us we were denied, being painted as a tiny handfull, but you and I both know that is a lie.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:48 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @William Demuth

      Why do you hate Christianity?

      July 1, 2011 at 10:08 am |
    • William Demuth

      Rainer Braendlein

      Because Christianity is the greatest evil that has ever existed, that has been used as a rational for abomination after abomination.

      It is a stone age lie used to entrap the weak minded fools who are terrified of their own meaningless death.

      It must be destroyed at any and all cost.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:29 am |
    • To Arms!

      @ Bad Bill D.

      The new adventures of the Modern Atheist Crusaders. Wow. Sounds exciting. Do you have a "handbook" or something to go by? Is there a membership fee? It may be too rich for my blood; I have a kid in college. Do I get to wear a snappy uniform? And about that "stake through the heart" stuff.. what if I don't like torture po rn? Can I sing and dance some pathetic believers to death instead? South Pacific? Rent? I know.. Cats. That'll put 'em down.

      Repeat after me – – " I don't need to be a confrontational ass hole to get my point across." Three times. Now tap you heels together and envision being someone who can function in the general population without appearing to be in need of a straight-jacket.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • Sapient Yuri

      No, no! The sheer contrast puts the rest of us in a more tolerable light! Let him go on his rampage!

      July 1, 2011 at 10:55 am |
    • William Demuth

      You doubt my willingness? You wouldn't be the first.

      We are in a war, and I intend to win it. Death to the fidels!

      To this end, logic dictates that you must divide and conquer. Make the Jews kill the Muslims, make the Christians kill the Jews and make the Muslims kill EVERYBODY!

      July 1, 2011 at 11:00 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @William Demuth

      What about the Confessing Church (a Protestant Church), which resisted Nazi-state and Nazi-church? Not a few members of the Confessing Church were killed by the Nazis.

      July 1, 2011 at 11:03 am |
    • AmazingSteve

      Alright William, you need to settle down a bit. Leave the crusades to the religious nuts – we're better than that.

      I do, however, think it's hilarious that 'To Arms!' is claiming not to like torture porn. Are you a Christian, 'To Arms!'? Because if you are, I have some bad news for you...

      July 1, 2011 at 11:03 am |
    • William Demuth

      Like my latest idea. Cheap backpacks at Walmart, and all those poor Palestinian and Afghani kids don't have any.

      I am going to send them some. What they do with them then must then be determined by their faith! Enjoy public transportaion!

      July 1, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • To Arms!

      I see, it's computer hour in the solarium. Make sure you show the nurse your empty mouth after you take your meds. I think they upped your Lithium dosage this week.

      Lemon JellO for lunch!

      July 1, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • To Arms!

      AmazingSteve

      What 'bad news?' Geez, I've had enough bad news this week. Now what?

      And what I am or am not isn't even relevant to my criticism of Mad Bad Billy.

      July 1, 2011 at 11:11 am |
    • William Demuth

      I believe we need to find out which of the great Abrahamic religion is the closest to the true will of God.

      Perhaps we need to encourage the dialogue, nudge it along a little bit?

      Where can I get those Abu Ghrahib pictures? I want to send a Power Point to every madrassa I can find, so it can be shared with all the third graders. See what the Christians did to you?

      Perhaps Trebilkas greatest hits should be playing in every Hasidic temple school in Brooklyn. See what the Christians did to you?

      We all need to vote for the most right wing Christian we can find, so let’s show every second grader in the US the picture of that guy jumping from the tower! See what those demons did to you?

      July 1, 2011 at 11:14 am |
    • To Arms!

      uh-huh. Here's a coloring book. Don't eat the crayons this time.

      July 1, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    • Peace2All

      @To Arms !

      Hmmm.... Your postings in a variety of ways seem very familiar to me.

      -BG...?

      Regards,

      Peace...

      July 1, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • Frogist

      @PastorsKid: I agree with you that the banners are va-gue enough that people will take them to be absolutes. And if the purpose of the campaign is tolerance, using absolutes is the opposite of what they need to do. I do have to say that the atheist 'movement' if in fact you can use the word 'movement', comprises of such varied people with varied sensibilities that it might be really tough to come up with something that will be pleasing to the majority. There are those non-believers who favor the tolerance and friendship approach and then there are the hardliners like William Demuth who believe fighting force with equal force. I'm not sure it is altogether possible to unify those two factions. Being on the acceptance side of the equation, I would probably prefer something like 'Atheists are patriots too'.

      July 1, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
    • To Arms!

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuX28N2ckk0&w=640&h=390]

      I can't just sit and watch paint dry, ya know....

      July 1, 2011 at 12:20 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @To Arms !

      So much for taking some time off for the 'reno's'...? LOL !

      Good to see that you are 'back in the saddle again'...

      I hope that you have a great 4th...!

      Take care...

      Peace...

      July 1, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
    • David in Corpus

      If when I die I am standing tall before the man (which religion will it be I wonder) then the answer to said God's question of why did you deny me will be 'why did you have such cra ppy representives on Earth Mr. All Powerful. You would think that the creator of heaven and earth (makes me giggle just writing it out) would be able to set forth proper representatives of said faith on Earth.
      It is about the equivalent of sending girl scouts to Iraq to fight terrorism..... oh and if God likes it that way so the faithful have to truly suffer confusion in their path to salvation, then what a sick fk god is, totally unworthy of being praised and loved, unless of course your the type that thinks a battered wife should stay with her husband no matter what.

      July 1, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
    • Jimmy

      Raise your hand if you think William D. is a troll. Yep, looks like that's just about everybody. Sorry William. But we do have some lovely parting gifts for you....

      July 1, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
    • Skeeve

      What you are saying is a typical religious fundamentalism. The tone and the message is no different then what any orthodox preacher has been doing since time immemorial. Too sad you don't understand it....

      July 2, 2011 at 10:31 am |
    • Linda

      The comments of "To Arms" in here keep making me laugh even though I know that it is NOT a laughing matter at all.
      I have NEVER believed, NEVER could.
      And, I HONESTLY cannot understand, and never could understand how ANYONE could.
      It just NEVER, EVER seemed to me to be logical or make any sense at all, even as a child.
      I read once that MANY, MANY of we "Nonbelievers" are much like the gays, we "stay in the closet" because of the reactions of the religous people to us admitting that we DON'T believe.
      To me it is interesting that in my family of five people, the ONLY one who actually DID believe was my mother.
      My Dad and my two brothers and I ALL didn't believe, but I was the ONLY one who admitted it.
      I was verbally attacked and told I was an "unfit mother", "A Devil Worshipper", ALL, just because I didn'ty believe what they did.
      Religeous people have NOT accepted Non-Believers any more than they have other religions or Gays.
      It ISN'T right, but for Athiests to become aggressive then will only convince them that much more that we are a threat.
      I read once, that annoymous polls showed that only about 1/3 of the people polled believed.
      So, religion is "gradually phasing itself out". As more and more people gradually are not believers the older ones will die off and things will improve.
      But to try to force it and be so "In your face", I think will just increase the hate and antagonism against us.
      NOT a good thing.

      July 2, 2011 at 9:00 pm |
    • To Arms !

      @ Linda

      " the older ones will die off and things will improve."

      Yep, but by that time you'll be one of the 'older ones', so make sure you don't tick off the generation behind you.

      You sound cute. I'll bet you're really -perky- too.

      "Religeous [sic] people have NOT accepted..." Unfortunately you're bigoted, so that pretty much zero's out any perky factor.

      " I read once that annoymous [sic] polls..."
      No. No no no no nono no. Stop it.

      All that having been said, basically you on the right track.

      July 2, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • tmm77625

      William, at least get your facts straight if you are going to spew hate.

      "Because Christianity is the greatest evil that has ever existed, that has been used as a rational for abomination after abomination." So, too, has atheism. Just check out the fun things Stalin and Mao, avowed atheists, did under the banner of their officially atheist state. And those guys in the Khmer Rouge, oh yes, lovely bunch. Oh, and before you trot out Hitler, which is always atheists supposed "ace in the hole" – he was not actually Christian (certainly he had some bizarre spirituality, but it was not based on Christianity) nor did he kill as many people as Stalin or Mao, and he did not even come close to folks like Genghis Khan and Tamerlane.

      "It is a stone age lie used to entrap the weak minded fools who are terrified of their own meaningless death." Har you lose. Christianity was started in the iron age, its predecessor Judaism is bronze age. Anyone ever teach you history with your hate? Also, Christianity teaches us a lot more about life than about death. If you actually read the Bible (I know, that would require you to actually know what you're talking about) neither Testament really goes into a whole lot about death.

      "It must be destroyed at any and all cost." Wow, you sound just like a lunatic from the middle ages talking about eradicating Islam, Judaism, or any of the various heretical sects. Congratulations on being just as evil and hateful as you perceive those you hate to be.

      July 3, 2011 at 12:05 pm |
    • My Dog Hates Fireworks

      @ tmm77625

      He aint' evil, he's just my troll bother.

      July 3, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
  2. PirateX

    You know a Christian has lost an argument when the best they can come up with is "I'll pray for you."

    July 1, 2011 at 9:18 am |
    • Electric Larry

      You know a Christian has lost an argument when they start talking. When you attempt to use reason to defend something inherently irrational, when you try to use logic to defend something completely illogical, when you try to use science to prove something that is by your own definition unscientific, then argumentation cannot help but fail.

      July 1, 2011 at 12:07 pm |
    • JAMES

      that's good stuff

      July 3, 2011 at 11:05 am |
  3. William Demuth

    Kill the messenger is STANDARD Christian practice.

    Beware how dangerous Christians shall become in the death throes of their stone age belief system.

    Keep shouting the truth, but they WILL come for you.

    When they do, find a reason to crucify them, it is the ONLY appropriate parting gift for all the evil they do.

    July 1, 2011 at 9:09 am |
    • William Demuth

      If your God were to show himself here I would gladly nail him up again, and slaughter his followers as they rushed to save him.

      Enough of your sickness.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:32 am |
    • To Arms!

      I missed you yelling and carrying your sign on your regular street corner this morning. I noticed because it was so quiet. I looked around, and you weren't there. It was kinda nice.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:56 am |
    • John

      William is obviously not a atheist. He is trying to make the rest of us look as unhinged as himself. He is either crazy or a chirstian trying to give fuel to his ilk, either way he is NOT a atheist.

      July 1, 2011 at 5:10 pm |
    • Skeeve

      Of cause he isn't. This is typical language of a religious sermon. Worst kind too, both intellectually and content-wise, but it is as funny as most of orthodox preachings I hear everyday from the other side. I wonder, how soon he will say that Harry Potter is horrible from rational atheistic point of view as it promotes magic 🙂

      July 2, 2011 at 10:35 am |
    • tmm77625

      @John

      Sorry, just like atheists lump in Hitler with us Christians, we get to lump William in with you.

      ;P

      July 3, 2011 at 12:11 pm |
  4. Rainer Braendlein

    @Stevie7

    Some human beings have problems, because the connection to their Creator is cut off.

    July 1, 2011 at 8:48 am |
    • Stevie7

      Rainer,

      Are you implying that people get appendicitis because they lack faith? Wow – that's a pretty mean god. I also know a lot of very religious people who've gotten appendicitis – what's your excuse there?

      And all humans are highly inefficient. So your creator still isn't all that intelligent.

      July 1, 2011 at 8:52 am |
    • William Demuth

      Rainer is back to warn us of the ills of the Muslim faith.

      Hey, out of curiosity, does anyone on here remember the LAST time a German decided to warn the world about the evils a religion was doing, and how God fearing Christians shold do something about it?

      July 1, 2011 at 9:20 am |
    • WonderSpring

      Secular Americans are too stupid to take any warnings from Germans or Russians or Chinese. No one can cure secular Americans' self-destructive stupidity.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:50 am |
    • William Demuth

      WonderSpring

      Are you illiterate or only indoctrinated? America once became great because we took the best of the best.

      Now we are slowly decaying because we have a subset of our society that perpetually inbreed who think a 2000-year-old comic book can be used to chart a course in the 21st century.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:57 am |
    • WonderSpring

      That's the thing, William. You never took the best of the best but God blessed USA for her faith in Jesus. Brace yourself for the result of blaspheming God. America will not stand unless she repents.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    • tallulah13

      William, WonderSpring is a person who changes her name a lot. You may recognize her as Adelina or more recently Zelda. She has only one way of thinking (which is how she is so recognizable, despite the name changes). I believe that she has been taught one thing that appeals to her very much and has absolutely no intellectual curiosity. She never questions her own opinion, even in the face of facts.

      Either that, or she's an amazingly consistent troll. Hard to tell, sometimes.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:41 am |
    • William Demuth

      tallulah13

      I know my freind, I just want to whip the zealots into a frenzy!

      July 1, 2011 at 11:30 am |
    • Artist

      WonderSpring

      That's the thing, William. You never took the best of the best but God blessed USA for her faith in Jesus. Brace yourself for the result of blaspheming God. America will not stand unless she repents.

      ---–
      Genius, every empire falls. It isn't that much of a stretch to say we will fall in the future. Adelina, go peddle your fear in your own country.

      July 1, 2011 at 11:48 am |
    • atheist

      My creators were mom and dad. Talk to them everyday they are doing great.

      July 2, 2011 at 9:11 am |
    • Skeeve

      The only warning that I will take from German, Chinese and Russian is that religion in ANY FORM is a self-destructive Delusion. Look at Hitler worshiping during Nuremberg Rally and tell me how it is different from any papal visit of any major European capital , protestant mass prayer gathering, hadj every year or any other mass religious ceremony. If you compare speeches even those are largely the same... it is scary, how much they are the same.

      July 2, 2011 at 10:42 am |
  5. CatholicMom

    I hope that if my eyes look to the heavens, I never see a sign that says…."God-LESS America"…..

    July 1, 2011 at 8:42 am |
    • William Demuth

      Where do you point your eyes to see heaven?

      You people make me laugh, acting like this is YOUR country.

      Frankly, we northerners had to stomp you once when you got stupid, and rest assured we will GLADLY do it again.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:23 am |
    • Jordan

      Amen! What an awful thing to ever see. Our God is greater.

      July 1, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
  6. CW

    Well well well...to sum it up

    Atheist's love America..not God...no belief in God.

    What the Atheist's don't realize is God is in control of everything...if you don't want to believe then you can control your own life...on Judgement day...it will play out how that worked for ya though.

    After reading a few of the responses though it is clear that we as christians need to pray for Atheist individuals. Maybe they will come to know Christ before its too late.

    July 1, 2011 at 8:28 am |
    • William Demuth

      We don't need or want your stinking prayers you indoctrinated parasite.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:24 am |
    • @CW

      If your god is in control of everything then he is controlling us atheists. Or are you too stupid to see that?

      July 1, 2011 at 9:36 am |
    • Topkatt

      God's are only real to those that believe in them. People have different interpretations of what they think God is or if that a God in any form exist at all. This where the freedom part kicks in. Christian's have been cramming their beliefs down the throat's of all American's since the Country began, without regard or respect for the belief's of anyone else. Now many Christian's are voting Republican!! Republican's are destroying our Country right before our eyes, and pseudo-Christian's are helping. I think if people want to claim Christianity as their religion, they need to live Christian lives, instead of that of Mammonite's. You guy's are shooting your wheels off these days. If you want to believe in flying monkeys, that's fine with me, but don't tell me that if I don't believe in flying monkeys, that I am not an American!!! Tolerance, patience, caring for your fellow man, treating the earth with respect....., remember....."Christian's"? You guy's are disgraceful and should be ashamed.....

      July 1, 2011 at 10:28 am |
    • tallulah13

      CW: I will make sacrifices to Osiris for you, so that when Anubis, lord of the underworld, weighs your heart against the feather of Ma'at, your heart will not be heavy with evil thoughts and actions. It is much better to pass to the afterlife than it is to have your heart devoured by Ammut and be condemned to oblivion forever.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • Scott

      If the only thing Christians did to atheists was pray for them we wouldn't need to advertise

      July 1, 2011 at 1:35 pm |
    • irene

      If God controls everything can she create a rock so big that she can't pick it up?

      July 1, 2011 at 4:50 pm |
    • atheist

      What I don't understand is that there are so many different religions, and they all believe they will be the ones that are saved. If there is a God shouldn't there be only one religion for all????? anyone who believes the human kind came from a man and his rib is a little delusional if you ask me. I believe that those that do not subscribe to any religious beliefs should be left to do so. And if they feel they should express it on a banner than let them have that freedom of speech right that is equal for all. This country was founded on the principle of religious freedom, that means the freedom to BELIEVE what you want. So if I don't want to believe, than that is my right.

      July 2, 2011 at 9:18 am |
    • Free

      CW
      "What the Atheist's don't realize is God is in control of everything..."
      Seeing that believers can be found all over the globe that would be an argument against Christians living here being specifically Americans, and more members in the Church in the Catholic sense, right? You believe you have a 'citizenship' in something larger than just the nation. That's divided loyalty. Tell me, would you choose to act against this nation in favor of your Christian loyalty?

      Also, if God controls me, you, and everyone else then He will decide when and if a converting sign will be shown to me, leading me to Christ, and rationality shown to you, leading you away from Him, yes? If you don't believe that ANYTHING could ever lead you away from God then you cannot believe that God controls such things. Of course, you would say that we have free choice in which case God does not control everything, yes?

      You can pray for our salvation, but please allow us to hope for your realization of what reality actually is, and accept our efforts to bring you back to common sense in arenas such as this in the same spirit, as trying to spare you from ignorance, and the harm that this is causing, before it's too late.

      July 2, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
    • the truth

      Wrong. Your faith is fine for YOU no one else. The problem is that xtian faith has poisoned all dialogue and disregarded any and all logical courses of action in public life. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but religion in general will die off in the 21st century. Your faith will be added to the dozens of mythological books in between celtic mythology and norse mythology.

      July 3, 2011 at 9:54 pm |
  7. Buddy R

    Signs like "God-LESS America" are just anti-theist hate rhetoric. Men like Dawkins and Hitchens have made such things popular.

    July 1, 2011 at 8:28 am |
    • @Buddy R

      Where is the hate? Where is the "anti-theism"? You are just full of crap.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:37 am |
    • The Bobinator

      > Where is the hate? Where is the "anti-theism"? You are just full of crap.

      You see, when people challenge christians and are critical of their faith, they equate this to hatred. Because they're personally feeling attacked. Heck, saying that "The bible is clearly false because it contains stupid statements of how wearing clothes out of a blend of fabrics is a sin." is liable to get their goat.

      When people have emotionalized their faith, they cannot respond understand logical reasoning and they equate our motives with an emotion. Denying God must be hate, because if you were really indifferent, you wouldn't spout stuff against God.

      Learning why you shouldn't emotionalize arguments is the first step into being an intellectual adult. A step that some people don't want to take.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:45 am |
    • @The Bobinator

      Are you seriously trying to p1ss me off? You give me a snarky ad-hominem and say I am being childish?
      Well, we can certainly see how well that's worked for you, eh?

      July 1, 2011 at 9:48 am |
    • William Demuth

      The Bobinator

      That is puke on paper.

      We sat while your preachers buggered a whole generation. We sat while your chrches sponsored war, hatred and persecution. We sat while you ripped off little old ladies and defrauded the government out of its tax revenue. We say while you ostracized and condemed BILLIONS of people.

      Guess what? We ain't sitting no more. Your belief system is an absurd lie that has been used to justify abominations for centuries, but its days are numbered.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:53 am |
    • Buddy R

      It is obvious America is not Godless since most Americans believe in God. If the atheists wanted to declare their patriotism they could have said "Atheists love America too!" or something like that rather than making provocative and untrue statements in their evangelical crusade.

      The US was founded my men who mostly loved God. They believed in freedom of religion, not freedom from religion that the anti-theists preach today. Atheist anti-theist activists in the US try to inhibit the ability of people of other religions to worship freely.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:03 am |
    • Buddy R

      @William Demuth

      Atheism is the most absurd belief system that ever came from the dark heart of any man. We see theist tyrants being responsible for the deaths of over 250 million people in the past 100 years. Far more than all other religions combined for all of recorded history. Of course I am speaking of men such as Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, and a dozen lesser known atheist tyrants.

      Lol!!!! We are supposed to cast aside science and believe the universe produced itself out of a steady state of absolute nothing. Ha!!!! The observations of the COBE sattelite and Hubble telescope proved the universe had a definite beginning. That was truly the deah knell of atheism as any pretense of a rational religion. Previously atheists had argued the universe was eternal. The first cause, the uncaused cause, had to be self-existent, timeless, spaceless, immaterial, powerful, intelligent, wise, and intelligent. A being theists call God.

      The theist explanation of the universe is rational and meshes with known science. The atheist claims are irrational and conflict with known science.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:08 am |
    • Buddy R

      Ah, I meant to type, "We see atheist tyrants." I left off the a in atheist obviously.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:10 am |
    • @Buddy R

      No you had it right the first time.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:12 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @ Buddy R

      "Atheist anti-theist activists in the US try to inhibit the ability of people of other religions to worship freely."

      Well said Buddy R! We Christians embrace freedom for everybody, but the atheists are like dictators.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:18 am |
    • Laughing

      @ Buddy R

      I'm going to ignore most of the nonesense you just spouted purely because it has no merit whatsoever. This is shown by the fact that you believe atheism is a religion. Well if you haven't been told, then let me be the first to tell you, atheism is not nor will ever be a religion. The only thing that unites atheists is that we all believe there isn't a god, that's it, there's nothing more.

      You also said something about atheists believing that the universe was eternal but also that we believe in the big bang and then someone brought that all around to theists having to be right because (again I'm still confused how you arrived at this point) religion and science somehow mesh. You sir are a dolt.

      Also I still don't see why you believers feel the need to point out terrible people in the past like Stalin or Pol Pot and say, "atheists are responsible for the most deaths in the world, they're more evil" Let me help you with a little history lesson. First of all, if you really want to add up the amount of deaths in the name of religion vs. in the name of atheism it's going to be somewhere between a couple to just billions of people vs. 0 (give or take one or two) respectivly. There has yet to be any war or conflct declared in the name of atheism. Even if Stalin or Pol Pot or other horrible leaders were not religious that doesn't mean they killed in the name of atheism, most of the time it was for a poltical gain or spread of political dogma but that is NOT atheism. Christianity on the other hand...... well lets just say that has a more checkered history.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:31 am |
    • LinCA

      @Buddy R

      You said: "It is obvious America is not Godless since most Americans believe in God. If the atheists wanted to declare their patriotism they could have said "Atheists love America too!" or something like that rather than making provocative and untrue statements in their evangelical crusade."
      Just because a majority of people believe in that nonsense doesn't mean there are any gods in America. There are no gods, anywhere. Just because you have an imaginary friend doesn't mean he really exists.

      While those slogans are poorly written, they are not untrue.

      You said: "The US was founded my men who mostly loved God. They believed in freedom of religion, not freedom from religion that the anti-theists preach today. Atheist anti-theist activists in the US try to inhibit the ability of people of other religions to worship freely."
      Freedom of religion includes freedom of it. For someone to be able to freely choose a religion (s)he has to first be free from all. Electing not to choose one is just as valid as picking any of the thousands of existing ones, or making up your own.

      There is only one choice that can be considered rational. A belief in a supernatural being is irrational, as there isn't a single solitary shred of evidence to support the existence of such a beast. To believe you either have to:
      – Willfully ignore evidence that refutes the fable of your god(s)
      – Be totally clueless

      If you refuse to open your eyes, you are free to stay clueless. If you want to put your hands over your ears, close your eyes, and shout "La la la la la la la la", that is your choice. You have the freedom to believe as you see fit. Just don't expect anybody sane to agree with your delusions.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:32 am |
    • William Demuth

      Buddy

      I intend to support the death of several billion more.

      This planet needs to be purged of the disease of religion or we all die.

      The children of Abraham are diseased, and the cure is coming.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:34 am |
    • William Demuth

      Buddy R

      Cast aside science? This is comong from a church mouse who has had more men of science killed in the name of his imaginary God than any faith ever.

      Talk is cheap, I got zealots to finance..

      July 1, 2011 at 11:26 am |
    • civiloutside

      "We see [a]theist tyrants being responsible for the deaths of over 250 million people in the past 100 years. Far more than all other religions combined for all of recorded history. Of course I am speaking of men such as Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot..."

      We have seen tyrants who happen to be atheists, yes, though none of them were tyrants *in the name of atheism.* Besides, the reason it seems effective to throw them up as an example is because (and I think you already know this), most atheists kind of agree that these were vile people. However, the fact that they killed more people than, say Moses, Joshua, the Crusader Popes, Muhammad, etc., has far more to do with the fact that they were living in an age where there were far more people available to kill and more efficient machinery for doing so than because they were more morally monstrous than those named. Do you really think that if Canaan had been occupied by a billion people when Moses and Joshua got there, and God's Chosen had had access to machine guns, chemical weapons, and air strikes, that they would have refrained from killing or displacing every one of those billion? You won't see many atheists on here holding up Stalin and Pol Pot as great heroes – join us in condemning your own mass murderers, or give up that line of attack.

      "The observations of the COBE sattelite and Hubble telescope proved the universe had a definite beginning."

      The most they proved was that the portion of the universe we're presently capable of observing had a starting point. The rest is extrapolation on your part to your preferred explanation without examining alternative explanations or flaws (of which there are many of both).

      " The first cause, the uncaused cause,"

      ...assuming that what brought the observable universe into existence was of such a nature that cause and effect have meaning...

      "...had to be self-existent, timeless, spaceless, immaterial, powerful..."

      ...are somewhat reasonable extrapolations, since time, space, and materiality are defined within the context of the observable universe and may not hold meaning outside of it, but...

      "...intelligent, wise, and intelligent."

      Aside from being redundant, these qualities are In no way provable, logically necessary, or even reasonable to assume. They are assumptions that you just want us to accept as fact without logical support.

      " That was truly the deah knell of atheism as any pretense of a rational religion."

      Actually, atheism has never pretended to be a religion. Because it's not.

      July 1, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • Scott

      Oh no. It's people like televangelists and fundamentalists that have made it necessary

      July 1, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
    • JAMES

      someone posted a good argument to a god a few months back should be relevant again.. if god created this vast universe, then why would god waste so much time on our tiny, tiny segment of the universe. wouldn't god be really busy with all of the other life forms that god created?

      July 3, 2011 at 11:16 am |
  8. Staks

    Wow, the signs aren't insulting any one or putting anyone down. They are just advertisements for another point of view and yet religious believers are so afraid to even let another point of view out there in the market place of ideas. It really makes you wonder how secure they are in their own beliefs. So much for freedom:
    Godless banners to fly on Independence Day – http://exm.nr/lWY6Dv

    July 1, 2011 at 7:40 am |
    • CatholicMom

      These flying signs = sky pollution.

      July 1, 2011 at 8:44 am |
    • @CM

      And trees produce tree pollution. Yeah, you're really amazing.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:38 am |
    • Electric Larry

      Sky pollution?

      July 1, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
    • Free

      Electric Larry
      You know, like the smoke they send up during elections for new Popes.

      July 2, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • Linda

      It is frustrating, and always has been, that the religous people do shout their "beliefs" out, as "facts" rather than just "beliefs", and they teach their "beliefs" as "facts" to our children, in the schools, and everywhere that they can, because they believe that it is the "truth" and the "right thing to do.",while telling Non-Believers that they "CANNOT say that they DON'T believe, because they CAN'T PROVE it."
      Well, WHY is it O.K. for THEM to say that their "beliefs" are "fact", when they have NO proof?
      I believe that gradually fewer and fewer people will believe, and religion will gradually die out.
      But, just as acceptance of gays, and blacks, etc. has taken hundreds of years the gradual acceptance of Non-Believers will take a long time as well.
      Behaving as if we are "Just as evil and horrible as they already think that we are, will NOT help us be accepted, but just the opposite."

      July 2, 2011 at 9:18 pm |
    • the truth

      Catholicmom, your religion is thought pollution.

      July 3, 2011 at 9:59 pm |
  9. Name*ronda

    My prayers are with all involved.God. Bless you. GOD IS GOOD AND HE IS REAL AMEN.

    July 1, 2011 at 7:10 am |
    • William Demuth

      Smoke much crack?

      July 1, 2011 at 9:32 am |
    • Scott

      God gave us pain, science gave us anesthetics.
      God gave us sickness, science gave us antibiotics

      July 1, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
    • Jordan

      Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.

      July 1, 2011 at 4:48 pm |
  10. djoutsider711

    Atheist are what Jesus intended Christians to be. 😀

    Have a peek in the head of one here: http://hubpages.com/hub/Death-What-Comes-Next

    July 1, 2011 at 6:56 am |
  11. Rainer Braendlein

    GM assembles cars as follows: They throw all components in a big container, shake it all, and after some hours the car is finished.

    This is a short description of atheistic "belief".

    In contrast a sane man things that cars are assembled by workers, using their reason and their hands.

    Every useful object (for example cars) has a maker. The more complicated the object, the more intelligent the maker.

    Human beings, animals and plants are biochemical marvels. They must have been created (designed) by an extremly intelligent being. Of course it was God, who created human beings, animals and plants and the whole universe.

    This all can be grasped by reason without any faith.

    I suppose, there is no single human being, who really doesn't believe in a creator. The atheists are simply people, which don't want to admit that they need deliverance. The perception of their sins, they want to reject as insane imagination. So they become insane indeed and force themselves to believe, there is no God.

    July 1, 2011 at 6:53 am |
    • Colonel H.E. Henderson

      My dear sir, you are suffering a delusion and are laboring under a misapprehension.
      Intelligent design has been debunked to a fare-thee-well.
      Should you find it necessary to educate yourself with intelligent information, try to find some that hasn't been shown to be utter nonsense.
      Otherwise your posts are without intellectual merit and will be ignored by a great many people for that reason regardless of your religious affiliations.

      July 1, 2011 at 7:08 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @Colonel H.E. Henderson

      Sorry, you make me yawning.

      July 1, 2011 at 7:19 am |
    • Andy Wormhole

      From what do we need deliverance, Rainer? People like you?

      July 1, 2011 at 7:24 am |
    • Michael Young

      Well Rainer,let me be the first person you've ever met that has absolutely no belief in some egomaniac creator.I've never bought into religion,and that includes childhood.None of you religious fanatics can ever offer any kind of proof for your asinine beliefs other than hack science and that wonderful "because the Bible says so" line.If your god was real,why would his perfect self need to create an entire universe to put one planet in it populated by beings that's sole reason for existence was to worship him/her/it?That doesn't sound like perfection,that sounds like a serious psychological aberration.You make it very easy to see what awaits myself and all the other atheists should this GOP/TP drive to legislate your stupid fairy tales on the entire country is successful.

      July 1, 2011 at 8:28 am |
    • Stevie7

      One does not need to look very hard to determine that any such 'design' is not very intelligent at all. Unless god is just sadistic. or lazy. We are highly inefficient beings that operate in a fairly narrow set of conditions. We have unnecessary organs that provide marginal benefit, but also can kill.

      How exactly does Ebola fit into a human-centric intelligent design? Lemme guess – god works in mysterious ways (i.e. it makes no sense, so I'll just ignore it)

      July 1, 2011 at 8:29 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @Michael Young

      Adore God, and don't doubt his existence.

      July 1, 2011 at 8:43 am |
    • CW

      @ Rainer,

      VERY WELL SAID MY CHRISTIAN FRIEND!!!!!

      @ Michael Young,

      First off I know that you and I will never agree...its maybe not me who will convince you maybe someone else who will get you to see that God DOES exist. I guess let me go from this:

      1) How do you know God doesn't exist?...where is your proof?
      2) How do you know what will happen?...have you experienced de.ath and came back to life? If so..please please please why have I and countless others never heard of your story?

      I'm just trying to pose the same question you want to post to all Christians.

      July 1, 2011 at 8:56 am |
    • Michael Young

      The circular argument,that's all you people have.You never answer a challenge to your belief with anything but "prove it isn't real" or "because the bible says so and the bible is the word of god".I challenge you here and now,prove your god is real,if you can without resorting to because the bible says so.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:24 am |
    • William Demuth

      Now you want to preach to Americans about religion, after your fathers gassed fifteen million people in the name of your God and your Fuehrer? If their was a hell your whole damn country would burn in it for eternity.

      It is YOU and YOURS who are insane killers, slaughtering in the name of a bogus God.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:31 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What complete cowflop, Rainer. You have no idea what you're blabbering about.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:54 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @William Demuth

      Hitler was a Neopagan. The Nazis were no Christians, but tried to establish a pseudo-Christianity.

      In fact, people, who rejected the traditional Christian faith, were responsible for the Holocaust.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:54 am |
    • Michael Young

      And the Pope was Hitler Youth,which explains a lot.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:59 am |
    • William Demuth

      Ranier you are a lying dirt bag who has been trying to rewrite history.

      Does "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." sound like a neo pagan. Hitlers direct words from his own damn book.

      Hitler, Himmler, Heidrich, Goering, they were ALL Christian, and sick deviant zealots. Hell Heidrich had a Christmas tree in his god damn official office where he ordered the execution of MILLIONS of jews.

      Take your lies elsewhere you Nazi parasite.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:04 am |
    • William Demuth

      How about this one you Nazi freak

      My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

      -Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

      July 1, 2011 at 10:09 am |
    • Buddy R

      Of course the NAZI party was officially atheist. Hitler was an atheist who believed there was some truth to the occult.

      Hitler hated Christianity and many of his words sound eerily like those of Dawkins and Hitchens, two famous atheist evangelists.

      The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views. Below are a few of Hitler's quotes that address his views of Christianity:

      Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

      "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)

      10th October, 1941, midday:

      "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." (p 43)

      14th October, 1941, midday:

      "The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State." (p 49-52)

      19th October, 1941, night:

      "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."

      "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease." (p 118 & 119)

      July 1, 2011 at 10:17 am |
    • William Demuth

      Buddy

      Same lies.

      I offer his own words, you offer words from third parties.

      More Christians manipulating the truth, JUST as they did the bible.

      Liars and mass murderers.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:26 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @William Demuth

      I don't know, whether Hitler was merely a pagan or even an atheist. At any rate he was no Christian. You should read the book "Where Ghost's walked: Munich's Road to the Third Reich" by David Clay Large.

      Hitler was no Christian, but an declared fornicator!

      July 1, 2011 at 10:52 am |
    • William Demuth

      Ranier

      You do understand that your mama and papa were also fornicators?

      July 1, 2011 at 11:28 am |
    • Brian

      Thanks for that. I've mainly been reading all of the insanity here and found it quite amusing. Yours is the best though(besides the one guy that wants an all out religious war). I am here to tell you that I don't, won't and never have believed in god. To me, I feel religion was created to give people a moral guide to living, and, of course, to exert power over the weaker minded of us. I don't hate it, but I do find that it causes more harm than good in a lot of instances. I don't pay any attention to it at all. I don't think it's anybody's business but mine. That's it from me. I hope you guys all keep it up though...

      July 1, 2011 at 11:53 am |
    • Electric Larry

      Buddy, the book you are referencing has been heavily discredited by actual historians. Your source is a fraud.

      July 1, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
    • Scott

      So which "extremly intelligent being" created god?

      July 1, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
    • JAMES

      i think you have this one backwards.

      July 3, 2011 at 11:19 am |
  12. Reality

    Third place and gaining as we type:

    o http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

    oReligion >>Adherents

    Christianity 2.1 billion

    Islam 1.5 billion

    Irreligious/agnostic/atheism 1.1 billion

    Hinduism 900 million

    Chinese traditional religion 394 million

    Buddhism 376 million
    Animist religions 300 million
    African traditional/diasporic religions 100 million
    Sikhism 23 million
    Juche 19 million
    Spiritism 15 million
    Judaism 14 million
    Baha'i 7 million
    Jainism 4.2 million
    Shinto 4 million
    Cao Dai 4 million
    Zoroastrianism 2.6 million
    Tenrikyo 2 million
    Neo-Paganism 1 million
    Unitarian Universalism 800,000
    Rastafari Movement 600,000

    July 1, 2011 at 6:51 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      Sane people: 2.1 billion

      Backward religion: 1.5 billion

      Insane people: 1.1 billion

      July 1, 2011 at 7:01 am |
    • Andy Wormhole

      Crazy people: 100%

      July 1, 2011 at 7:25 am |
    • PirateX

      Not to mention that Buddhists are technically Atheists as they do not believe in any type of god.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:13 am |
    • Bucky Ball

      Hi Rainer !

      2.1/2.6 = 80.7692 % imperfect creatures ? Not such a hot record there.

      How's the weather over there. Very hot here.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:22 am |
    • WonderSpring

      Number of people rescued and protected by the Christian Church = 7 billion as of today

      July 1, 2011 at 9:37 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @Bucky Ball

      Hi!

      It is pretty in cool in Munich.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:42 am |
    • the truth

      Ranier. We aatheist are insane and you are sane by what definition? That you believe in a ghost that does nothing, says nothing and allows atrocity after atrocity happen to his own followers? Crazy people ( schizophrenic) have to take medication, what is your excuse?

      July 3, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
  13. D

    I knew that Mel 🙂

    July 1, 2011 at 4:34 am |
    • Mel

      I thought you would D, yet I want to make sure WonderSpring gets that since he has no logic

      July 1, 2011 at 4:37 am |
    • D

      Ah ok. It's sad how some people have no tolerance for anything other than themselves, and logic too. If we were all the same, the world would get boring FAST. It's the variety that makes this world interesting.

      July 1, 2011 at 4:39 am |
  14. Douglas

    This is sad. Being one who find a sense of peace and belonging in a faith that teaches love, compassion, understanding and belonging is so hated and misunderstood to prompt an ad campaign like the one in this posting.. Have the teachings of Jesus been misused to preach judgment, superiority and intolerance; yes, they have and as a Christian, I apologize for its misuse by others. The God I have come to know through reading the Bible and spending time with fellow believers is one of over-whelming compassion and forgiveness. For atheist, I suggest reading the Bible to better understand, those whom they disagree and attack.

    July 1, 2011 at 4:20 am |
    • Joel K

      Firstly, you're assuming that we haven't read the bible. My father was a pastor in an evengelical church, I went to a Christian High School and a Christian College, I delivered the sermon for our Senior class chapel service in my High School. I have read and re-read the bible many times and that's actually part of why I AM an atheist.

      Secondly, stating that we're here and that we're American citizens who care about this country is hardly a message expressing hatred toward your mythology. If you think that me stating that I am here and that I don't believe in your deity means that I hate your religion, or your god, then you really don't understand atheism at all and you should consider reading some of the work written by atheists before criticizing it. I'd reccomend books like Bertrand Russell's Why I am Not a Christian or Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason for starters.

      July 1, 2011 at 5:11 am |
    • Technomancer

      As an outsider looking in, I'm appalled you would say something like that given the hundreds of roadside billboards condemning non-christians to hell.

      July 1, 2011 at 5:13 am |
    • Bucky Ball

      "who find a sense of peace and belonging"
      -- What's gonna happen when it changes to challenge and alienation, like your founder proclaimed from the cross ? The feel good part is the main thing though. I GET it.

      July 1, 2011 at 5:54 am |
    • David Starkey

      They understand them just fine already.
      You included some of the information in your comment.
      When Christians are as accepting as Jesus taught, preached & lived, then THEY will stop the hostilities.
      On that day, the problem will be solved.

      July 1, 2011 at 5:59 am |
    • SA10

      The bible is a fairy tale made up of several other fairy tales, all written prior to the bible. Gods have been numerous for centuries to keep the sheep, I mean the people in line.

      July 1, 2011 at 7:34 am |
    • Scott

      I didn’t really become an atheist until I decide to read the bible. I didn’t get very far. Man there is nasty stuff in those first 5 books. Evil, war, genocide, fratricide, ince$t, adultery, patricide, r_ape, child mole$tation, slaughter of the entire population (men, women, children and even animals) in city after city, the destruction of almost the entire world … and that’s the good guys.

      July 1, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
  15. WonderSpring

    What atheists can do is mimicking and abusing. They have nothing original. The whole world knows it.

    July 1, 2011 at 4:13 am |
    • Dzugavili

      How can you honestly say that with all the retooled materials that have been lumped into Christianity?
      The whole thing is basically a quilt of ancient unrelated texts that form a semi-coherent narrative.

      Honestly, don't quote scripture, quote logic. Anyone can repeat what was written 2000 years ago. But they have nothing original and everyone knows it.

      July 1, 2011 at 4:22 am |
    • WonderSpring

      ? You never had any logic to begin with before you had the Bible. By the way, I'm talking about atheists on this page.

      July 1, 2011 at 4:27 am |
    • Mel

      Of course, there is no logic in the Bible;

      July 1, 2011 at 4:35 am |
    • Magic

      Ah, this kind of logic from Leviticus - to cure leprosy:

      Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird’s blood. Wipe some blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times.

      – or –

      From Deuteronomy:

      A rapist shall pay the victim's father 50 shekels and then must marry her.

      Is that the kind of logic you mean? There is lots and lots more illogical stuff in the Bible, but I know that you don't like to read long posts.

      July 1, 2011 at 4:43 am |
    • David Starkey

      Perhaps you should consider your own capacity to RECOGNIZE an original thought.
      Try this one on for size: JESUS NEVER REJECTED ANYONE BUT MOST CHRISTIANS DO, IN HIS NAME!

      July 1, 2011 at 6:02 am |
    • William Demuth

      This pinhead structures its life around a two thousand year old comic book, and makes remarks like this.

      I have GOT to get me some more lions!

      July 1, 2011 at 9:35 am |
    • WonderSpring

      @Magic, you are to remember your guilt everytime you see the blood. Rapist marying the victim is much better than rapist running away and get away. Look at today's free countries. Full of rapists and air-head play-girls. Rapists were either killed or made being responsible in Bible time. Much better than present American justice system.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:42 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Rapist marrying the victim"??? Are you completely brain-dead? Jesus, please save us from these sorts of idiots.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:56 am |
  16. Miles Smith

    Patriotism is stupid.

    July 1, 2011 at 4:02 am |
    • David Starkey

      Patriotism is love of ones country.
      I love my country enough to tell it when it's wrong.
      I love my country enough to tell it how to improve itsself.
      If it weren't for patriotism, there would be no nations, no justice, no programs to help people.
      Anarchy would reign, if carried to its logical conclusion.
      My country does a lot of good in the world.
      It does a lot of bad too, but it's designed so we can say so, come up with better ideas & implement them.
      Please reconsider.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:07 am |
  17. D

    The Flying Spaghetti Monster believers are evil. A cancer in American society.

    Ooh looky. I'm joining in *dumb moment folks*

    July 1, 2011 at 3:32 am |
    • Bob

      If the "dumb moment" shoe fits . . .

      July 1, 2011 at 3:37 am |
    • query

      why are you talking to yourself?

      July 1, 2011 at 6:22 am |
  18. WonderBra

    Believers are evil. A cancer in American society.

    I can do it too! See how easy that is? Nice to have well-thought-out posts that contribute something to the conversation.

    July 1, 2011 at 3:26 am |
  19. scott

    We are not evil, nor a cancer to society. Im as patriotic as the next person, theist and atheist alike. I just simply don't believe in any god or gods.

    July 1, 2011 at 3:26 am |
    • Mel

      "Everyone is atheist, someone just goes one god further", religious people will call you an atheist if you don't believe in the same god they do

      July 1, 2011 at 4:30 am |
    • Andy Wormhole

      No, they will call you an "unbeliever", as you do not believe what they do.

      July 1, 2011 at 7:27 am |
  20. WonderSpring

    Atheists are evil. A cancer in American society.

    July 1, 2011 at 3:07 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Nahh...

      Matthew 5:9

      WonderSpring, time to set down and roll that over in your head. Or if you just mean to be a troll then just please stop.

      July 1, 2011 at 3:46 am |
    • WonderSpring

      Mark, read Psalms chapter 14. Atheists need to be saved from themselves.

      July 1, 2011 at 4:18 am |
    • Mel

      Atheists are evil that is why religious groups are killing each other, what a logic!

      July 1, 2011 at 4:25 am |
    • WonderSpring

      Atheists killed and are killing most humans.

      July 1, 2011 at 4:30 am |
    • D

      OH and christians never killed anyone? The crusades? Witch hunts? The Holocaust? (Yes, hitler was christian)

      July 1, 2011 at 4:30 am |
    • Mel

      You should read world history more.

      July 1, 2011 at 4:31 am |
    • Mel

      When I said "you should read world history more" I meant WonderSpring;

      July 1, 2011 at 4:33 am |
    • WonderSpring

      More true Christians were killed than any people groups in the European history. Hitler was a Darwinian atheist and was taken down by then-Christian America. Atheists in Soviet Union and China and elsewhere killed believers so many it made everyone's crime look nothing in the human history. Atheists are the worst killers for all time everwhere. They are killing unborn babies in free countries and only Christians are trying to save those babies. Atheism kills and destroys life; Christianity pro-vides and pro-tects life.

      July 1, 2011 at 9:33 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, is that so, WSAdelinathemoron? I guess all those Stars of David in Arlington Cemetery were just...what?

      You are beyond stupid.

      July 1, 2011 at 10:03 am |
    • sci is

      Just to join in on how many killed... If god was so smart the first commandent would have been "Wash your hands" Thereby saving in 2000 years at least 7 billions lives but what did they know then .....and you want me to believe

      July 1, 2011 at 10:05 am |
    • tallulah13

      Tom, she's also ignoring the muslims, wiccans and atheists who are buried at Arlington and in military graveyards throughout the country. (Sorry if I've missed a denomination.) Even other christians know that Adeline/Name of the Day is ignorant and hateful. She does more harm to her faith than good,but she is too arrogant to see that.

      Either that or she's a super-troll.

      July 1, 2011 at 11:00 am |
    • Frogist

      @WonderSpring: I remember a post you wrote a couple of articles back on forgiveness and love. You said Christians are the most loving and forgiving people in the world. You said you love atheists too. But now you call them a cancer. Is that love? No. What you are doing is expressing hate and anger while pretending to be a good Christian. You have turned real love and forgiveness into caricatures of themselves.

      July 1, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • Scott

      Yes, just look at how much better Howard Camping is

      July 1, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
    • les

      This does not sound like an atheist to me.

      "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

      Adolph Hitler – Mein Kampf

      July 4, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
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