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Evangelist produces ‘Real Housewives of the Bible’ DVD
July 5th, 2011
10:16 AM ET

Evangelist produces ‘Real Housewives of the Bible’ DVD

By Liane Membis, CNN

There’s a new set of housewives on the block.

These women aren’t whining about fashion faux pas and socialite misgivings. Their stories are cast somewhere between the books of Genesis and Revelation.

Ty Adams, a web-based evangelist and author, is producing “The Real Housewives of the Bible,” a two-part DVD series that tracks six women dealing with the ups and downs of marriage as they strive to be good wives.

Adams said that “outrageous reality shows” like Bravo’s “The Real Housewives” series and VH1’s “Basketball Wives” inspired her to create a more wholesome version of the franchise.

“I was frustrated with what I was seeing,” she said. “A lot of society is looking towards programming to educate them on relationships and these shows haven’t effectively done that.”

“They have ruined and tainted our ability to secure good relationships and to make women into good wives,” said Adams, who is based in Detroit.

Adams has provided Christian relationship advice for nearly ten years, since she founded a production company called Heaven Enterprises in 2002. She’s the author of Single, Saved and Having Sex, has produced religious DVDs and plays and offers sex and relationship advice through a web-based column called “Ask Ty.”

Adams says the goal of her “Real Housewives” DVD, due out later this month, is helping women juxtapose real-life issues with Christian teaching. She says that teaching includes women’s obligation to attempt to sustain relationships that have endured extra-marital affairs and other hardships.

“Because we live in a media-driven society, telling these age-old stories of adultery, loneliness and longing through entertainment helps women relate,” Adams said.

Each character on the show represents a different woman from the Bible. A character based on the biblical Sarah struggles with infertility. (The biblical Sarah was barren until she reached old age).

Gold-digging women are likened to Delilah from the Book of Judges, who seduced and deceived Samson - who'd fallen in love with her - through repetitious requests.

And the show features plenty of Jezebels.

“Many single women can get a man but they can’t keep a man,” Adams said. “So many singles have been in girlfriend status for so long that they only understand that mentality. They don’t know what it takes to be a good wife in order to sustain a relationship and some parts of society promotes that.”

- Liane Membis

Filed under: Bible • Culture & Science • Entertainment

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  1. La, La, La

    Geez, I wish I wasn't in recovery, I would love to watch this stone on pot.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:44 am |
    • Jesus

      These babes adhere to the 11th commandment, "Thou shall employ many cosmetic surgical procedures including enlarging the duckies, use makeup to a plentiful degree, and do not work away from the home...in fact, do not work at all".

      July 6, 2011 at 11:22 am |
    • fred

      Jesus never misquoted scripture you must be an imposter

      July 6, 2011 at 11:28 am |
  2. Matt

    This should be amusing and as staged as the show it rips off.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:43 am |
    • Jesus

      Why don't they do a reality show on the Schullers, Osteens, or Hinns? Watch how the "evangelical" rich and famous live large!

      July 5, 2011 at 7:30 pm |
  3. Rainer Braendlein

    Things going on well in a Church, where God is really present. It is crucial to find the suitable wife or husband. Where can I get to know my suitable partner? Answer: In a lively congregation. Jesus takes care of you!

    July 5, 2011 at 11:39 am |
    • Jesus

      Most con artists and charlatans find their marks in Church. It's the best place to find the gullible, dim witted, and trusting.

      July 6, 2011 at 11:25 am |
  4. Peace2All

    From the Article:

    " A character based on the biblical Sarah struggles with infertility. (The biblical Sarah was barren until she reached 'old age')."

    I am interested to see 'how' they portray this one !

    Regards,

    Peace...

    July 5, 2011 at 11:33 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      Regards to L. A..

      July 5, 2011 at 11:41 am |
    • Hazel

      Yes, that would be interesting to see what sort of crazy ideas they come up with to fill in all the blanks.

      July 5, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
    • Jesus

      Are you quoting from the real Bible? That's unfair! Next thing you'll be citing from the part that sanctions slavery (Ex. 21), about the dude living in a whale, or that the world began just 6.000 years ago. This is a book of nonsense. How about a reality TV show about those who live their lives completely off the grid? Now that would be interesting.

      July 6, 2011 at 11:30 am |
  5. Sybaris

    This is like saying that no Christians ever divorce or have marital counseling. I suppose if you hand-pick your "real" housewives you can convince the flock but this is just more lies from those that live their lives based on a book full of them.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:32 am |
    • Hustle

      It's actually saying the opposite. She is trying to tell people how not to fail at their relationship and trying to show them how to keep it together. I don't agree with everything I read but at the same tiem I don't see where it says anything about "Christians" never getting divorced.

      July 5, 2011 at 11:48 am |
    • Sean

      She is actually is just ripping off someone else’s idea to make a buck.

      July 5, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
  6. Mighty7

    Evangelists.....always a dollar short, a day late and a few brain cells retarded....

    July 5, 2011 at 11:31 am |
    • Jesus

      A true collection of mental defectives and freaks.

      July 5, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
    • Jesus

      Frankly, these people ought not be allowed to vote. Do we allow mental defectives to vote?

      July 6, 2011 at 11:31 am |
  7. Doug B.

    In reply to Doc, a christian comedian once said "its not just some fruity chick that got us into this mess and yes it was a women!
    But it was a women who didn't know a lie when she heard one but a man who didn't know when to keep his mouth shut".

    July 5, 2011 at 11:31 am |
    • John Richardson

      Oh boy. Christian stand up. Gotta find some. This oughta cure my insomnia!

      July 5, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • Jesus

      That's supposedly funny? I guess if you believe that 6,000 years ago God created Adam and Eve, you might find simple pratfalls and silly 1st grade humor the tops.

      July 5, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
  8. rhodesma

    i love how it's the "woman's obligation" to uphold the relationship throughout marital issues. just let me the man run free, huh?

    and by the looks of the way they're dressed in the picture, they REALLY strike me as good, wholesome, women trying to promote the christian life.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:30 am |
    • David, CA

      You know they'll turn on each other at the drop of a hat. I've seen similar "good christian" women in action and they're every bit if not worse than other back stabbing, attention seeking trash this type of show promotes.

      July 5, 2011 at 11:33 am |
  9. Really?

    What about teaching men to be good husbands? I don't understand this subservient role they expect women to take.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:30 am |
    • Steve

      Thats because you obviously havent read the bible....there are more (and ridiculous) rules for women than you can imagine.

      July 5, 2011 at 11:50 am |
    • W247

      Women do not take a subservient role, for generations and generations this has been misunderstood and misinterpreted. The Bible does tell men how to be better husbands. Ephesians 5:21 – 33

      A couple verses from tehat section but you should really read the whole section:

      21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
      24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. (my notes: Christ would not do anything to degrade His church, husbands should not do anything to degrade their wives)
      28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.

      July 5, 2011 at 12:12 pm |
    • Sean

      W247 you just proved Steve’s point.

      July 5, 2011 at 1:24 pm |
    • W247

      Sean – not really. Did you read it? You know the part about treating each other better then you treat yourselves??

      July 5, 2011 at 4:41 pm |
    • Frogist

      @W247: Your verse says nothing about treating each other better than you treat yourself (which is in itself not a particularly good piece of advice). It speaks to women specifically to submit while the male is asked only to love.

      July 6, 2011 at 8:31 am |
    • w247

      Frogist:
      Did yo miss this one?

      28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.

      What do you think it means?

      July 6, 2011 at 11:58 am |
    • Frogist

      @W247: Sadly your quote still does not mean what you said. If anything it hints at equally loving your wife as your own self... although it does not say that either. It says love her as your own body which can also be interpreted as loving her for her physical attributes. But certainly not treat her better than you would treat yourself.

      July 6, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • w247

      Frogist: You should be a politician! You are so good at spinning things around! I applaud you for the ability, and hope you use it appropriately in the future.

      However on this issue, I think you are spinning it a little too much to try to confirm to what you want it to mean. Who doesn't love their body? Who would do things to hurt themselves? One is not apt to cut off or abuse an arm in spite, just like one would not abuse their spouse, whom they love.

      Thanks for playing.

      July 6, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
    • Frogist

      @W247: Did you mean to be condescending in your post? Is that the Christian part of you responding, I wonder?
      I have given you multiple interpretations of what I see it to mean... you have yet to justify your interpretation Even if you want to say you can love your spouse as your own body, that does not mean you will treat them better than yourself as was your assertion. I have addressed this in my previous post. All I'm asking for is a reasonable explanation for you finding a meaning that is obviously not in the quote you posted. No need to get defensive.

      July 6, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
    • teaglis

      I agree.

      July 9, 2011 at 6:31 am |
  10. Adevilson Silva

    That does it! I am fed up of this country. Every day, every hour, anywhere, I have to face this crappy debate about religion and get exposed to these morons who really think that there is an invisible friend in the skies taking care of their lives. Enough is enough! I am crossing the north border and seeking asylum in Canada!

    July 5, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    • 2by4

      bye

      July 5, 2011 at 11:44 am |
    • 2by4

      bye bye

      July 5, 2011 at 11:44 am |
    • Hazel

      The Mounties will want to see some sort of identification. Make sure you have a passport or passport-ID.
      Do your homework if you're going to emigrate, otherwise you won't get very far.

      July 5, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
    • Anne

      Bye, Bye...

      July 5, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
  11. Janice

    Everybody wants to capitalize off Jesus. Makes me sick!!!!!!! Find a real job.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:28 am |
    • La, La, La

      Bush let the way in modern time 🙂

      July 5, 2011 at 11:42 am |
  12. erich2112x

    There are no reality shows. Call me when you install cameras in someone's house and don't tell them about it. Then you have a reality show.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:27 am |
  13. Ralph in Orange Park, FL

    The DVDs will probably be sold in Christian bookstores, in which most people do not shop anyway.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:22 am |
  14. phoenix

    tired of the heathen ladies with their short skirts and tobacco breath, this series should be a change.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:22 am |
    • David, CA

      From the look of the promo shot- it looks just like the trash already out there.

      July 5, 2011 at 11:35 am |
  15. Geezer

    That's all we need christianity leaching off a reality show. As if we don't get enough religion shoved into our faces every day.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:17 am |
    • Sean

      Christianity by its very nature is a leach. The basic concept of the religion is just an off shot of a middle eastern religion. And most of the stories from the virgin birth to the Christ figure can be traced back thousands of years before the bible versions supposedly took place. But you don’t have to believe me.. just do a quick goggle search on the history of Christmas.

      July 5, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
  16. Elly

    Perhaps Liane should read the Bible again. Delilah was not married to Samuel but to Samson. Accuate knowledge is of vital importance when using the Bible as a reference.

    July 5, 2011 at 11:06 am |
    • Amy Raffensperger

      Delilah was not even married to Samson, they were "hooking up". The sad fact about this article is that there is indeed a lot of real drama in the Bible, they don't need to take stories out of context to make a juicy read. Rachel and Leah, two sisters married to the same man in Genesis, NOW THAT"S A STORY!!! The people in the Bible were not paragons of virtue, but very fallible humans, like everyone else. (And for the record, Jezebel's sin was in persecuting the prophet of God, her home life as a wife was likely impeccable).

      July 5, 2011 at 11:18 am |
    • gozer

      although there's not much "knowledge" in the bible. It's chock-a-block full of errors and contradi-ctions:

      http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

      http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/science/long.html

      July 5, 2011 at 11:23 am |
  17. John Richardson

    Always out for a buck ...

    July 5, 2011 at 10:59 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @ChildofGod
      OK – we'll start with the easy ones first.
      Biblical references on how to treat people as property include:
      "If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom."
      Exodus 21:2
      "However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." Leviticus 25:44-46
      "Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." Exodus 21:20
      "An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth."
      Exodus 21:26

      You assert that I don't "get" the bible.
      Could you enlighten me as to which of the tens of thousands of sects of Christianity DOES "get it"? They can't all be right...

      Now, you have stated that modern concepts of gender equality are wrong.
      Unfortunately, that is a major disconnect between you and I. The women in uniform with whom I worked were just as capable as the men. The woman with whom I share my life is tougher, smarter and more capable than many men (certainly including me) in many traditionally male dominated fields.

      You said "Children still "labour' in fields, all across the world".
      That is correct, in essence. However, western countries have child labour laws prohibiting the exploitation of the underage. While your Nikes might have been sewn by a 6 year old Vietnamese boy, that type of thing is not accepted in North America.
      "women are still, at their own choosing relegated to "incubating and caring for croth critters"
      You put the relevant words in there yourself – AT THEIR OWN CHOOSING. Because you have other options, you are not relegated to the role of housewife – you are consciously and (presumeably) happily opting into that role. The freedom to chose any other role is not something afforded women in the Bible.
      Is life still nasty brutish and short? Not as compared to back then.
      Life expectancy is twice what is used to be. Infant mortality is a fraction of what it was in biblical times. Medicine and hygiene have eliminated common scourges from 2000 years ago. In North America, a significant portion of the population does no type of physical labour at all (hence the number of obese Americans). Our quality of life is VASTLY greater than that of middle easter sheep herders thousands of years ago.
      You say that the Bible is the "ONLY Truth, the truth of God, Jesus Christ and the TRUE history of man".
      Once again, if you believe a literal interpretation of Genesis, then we have an unbridgeable gap. The earth is older than 6000 years, humans did not live side by side with dinosaurs, there was no flood that wiped out the entire human race save for a 500 year old man and his immediate family, neither snakes nor bushes have ever talked, nobody has ever lived inside a whale, the Red Sea did not part etc. ad nauseum.

      Why is your book any more valid than the Tanakh, Talmud, Midrash, New Testament, Quran, Sunnah, Nahjul Balagha, Avesta, Vedas, Upanisahds, Bhagavad Gita, Puranas, Tantras, Sutras, Vachanas, Adi Granth, Purvas, Samayasara, Niyamasara, Pravacanasara, and Pancastikaya; Anupreksa; Samadhishataka of Pujyapada; Tattvarthasutra of Umasvati, Tattvarthasutra, Pali Tripitaka, Jataka,, Visuddimagga, Tripitaka, Lotus Sutra, Garland Sutra, Analects; the Great Learning; the Doctrine of the Mean; the Mencius, Tao Te Ching, Chuang-tzu, Kojiki, Nihon Shoki, K-oki, Ofudesaki, Mikagura-uta, Michi-no-Shiori, Johrei, Goseigen, Netarean Shower of Holy Doctrines, Chun Boo Kyung, Kitab-i-Iqan, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, Book of Mormon, Dianetics, or Revelation X since they are all Holy Books that claim to be The Truth?

      July 6, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
  18. Doc Vestibule

    How to be a good Christian wife:
    Be silent. Be subservient. Bear your "wifely duties" with stoicism. It is the price you must pay for the privilege of motherhood. Never forget the shame womankind forced on the human race – "Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die" Ecclesiasticus, 25:19

    Study the words of the eminent theologan John Calvin, who described women as Calvin described women as
    "... more guilty than the man, because she was seduced by Satan, and so diverted her husband from obedience to God that she was an instrument of death leading all to perdition. It is necessary that woman recognize this, and that she learn to what she is subjected; and not only against her husband. This is reason enough why today she is placed below and that she bears within her ignominy and shame."

    Gender equality is for heathens and atheists!

    July 5, 2011 at 10:52 am |
    • Hazel

      You forgot the /sarcasm switch at the end, Doc.

      July 5, 2011 at 11:03 am |
    • actually

      Ecclesiasticus is not in the Bible. That's a apocryphal book that most Christian sects reject on the basis that it is noncanonical. In fact many people are unaware of its existence, let alone it's significance.

      Thus, using it to dispute Christian doctrine is like submitting the statement of a witness who's credibility is questionable before he walks into the court room.

      Just saying.

      July 5, 2011 at 11:22 am |
    • Silly..But Saved!

      Are you for real DOC???!!!! I would love to see espouse your beliefs in front of a group of women; I have a feeling you would meet God shortly after......

      July 5, 2011 at 11:25 am |
    • Natalie

      Really, a good Christian wife? Call me an Atheist and a feminist then I suppose. Marriage in itself difficult without such iniquitous blame and pressure placed solely on women. To believe such absurdity and vilify gender inequality is likely due in part to insecurities about yourself and fear, yes fear, that the female gender is as capable and deserving. Be silent...be subservient.....?? Get it together, really. Asking for gender equality does not make me a heathen. Refusing gender equality makes YOU a neanderthal.

      July 5, 2011 at 11:37 am |
    • Apocrypha

      Actually –

      You're arguing that Ecclesiasticus can't be used to refute Christian doctrine because it's already been... refuted? It seems a little strange that the Church gets to say the Bible is the "Word of God..." but gets to add a "...except the parts that we don't agree with because they're not convenient" clause.

      July 5, 2011 at 11:39 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      I don't understand why you Christian women are getting upset with me!
      All I'm doing is passing on God's word.
      "Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says."
      -1 Corinthians 14:34
      "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission."
      -1 Timothy 2:11

      So, to reiterate, a proper Christian wife is silent, subservient and full of shame.

      July 5, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • Hazel

      You're a shameless troll, Doc. =)

      July 5, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Hazel
      *shhhhh*
      Don't tell anybody.
      I can't help it if there are so many bits in the Bible that the modern faithful don't like to face up to.
      Slavery and misogyny and infanticide – oh my!

      July 5, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
    • ChildofGod6311

      Doc...being able to quote a few verses of the bible does not make you an expert on the content and context of the bible. We, as Christian woman, do not have to deny our individuality or our faith to be just as strong & passionate as "other" women. We do not walk to the left and to the rear, we are not treated as undeserving animals...our opinions and thoughts are valued by the men we love and cherish; and if the men we love and cherish are men of God, then they love and cherish us just as much. Those who do not follow a life of true faith in God and Christ can never comprehend the complexities of a relationship within our faith and therefore, should not speak on the subject as though they are experts.

      July 5, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
    • Frogist

      LOL@Doc: They must be newbies. You can't really dispute that the concept of feminism does seem to be set aside for us heathens and atheists if that is the way Christianity sees women.

      July 6, 2011 at 8:38 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Firstly – do not assume that simply because I reject the supernatural that I am unfamiliar with the Bible as a whole.
      I have a copy with me just about everywhere I go, actually.
      It requires a great deal of cognitive dissonance to reconcile the bible's intrinsic misogyny with modern, western concepts of gender equality.
      The Bible is a reflection of the time in which it was written – a time when men were Men, children laboured in fields, women were relegated to incubating and caring for cro.tch critters, and life in general was nasty, brutish and short.
      As our species has grown and progressed, we have tacitly rejected many portions of the Bible that are no longer culturally relevant – the instructions on how to treat human beings as property, for example.
      This doesn't make the Bible any less of an astoundingly insightful tome when it comes to human nature and the vices and virtues that drive us all.
      It just means that the the Bible is simply a book! It is not the infallible, eternal source of the only Truth – it is a wonderful collection of stories that can reveal a path to bettering ourselves.

      July 6, 2011 at 9:51 am |
    • ChildofGod6311

      Doc,

      Firstly – do not assume that simply because I reject the supernatural that I am unfamiliar with the Bible as a whole.
      I have a copy with me just about everywhere I go, actually. {Yes, but this does not mean you "get" it...knowing what the words say and knowing what they mean to an individual are two completely different things, especially when talking aout the Bible – simply because we are human and prone to bend meanings to our favor or to support our arguments on a subject does not an educated discussion make...}

      It requires a great deal of cognitive dissonance to reconcile the bible's intrinsic misogyny with modern, western concepts of gender equality....{Let me see if my simple, college-educated mind can wrap around this sentence in less grandiose terms – so you think that one must be seriously conflicted in their beliefs to reconcile the woman haters of then with the modern, western concepts of gender equality? Modern, western concepts of gender equality are, to an extent, wrong. Plain and simple. So, for those of us Christian women who are following our paths in Christ, there isn't anything to reconcile...we don't believe the same as others. Its just simple – theres no psychological warfare going on inside of us to make it "fit", so to speak, it just is what it is.}

      The Bible is a reflection of the time in which it was written – a time when men were Men, children laboured in fields, women were relegated to incubating and caring for cro.tch critters, and life in general was nasty, brutish and short. {men were men...and they're not now? Did they evolve into something else since biblical times? Children still "labour' in fields, all across the world, women are still, at their own choosing relegated to "incubating and caring for croth critters" (I assume you mean bearing and caring for children...) there are a few women out there who do not ever want to have children and don't understand those of us who do, but the majority of women crave that state of motherhood...it is the greatest gift that could be bestowed upon a woman and the job of raising and shaping a child's mind is a privilege beyond belief – so to reduce it to no more than caring for "crotch critters" as though they were animals is just ugly of you...and yes, life could be nasty, brutish and short back then – but so it is in modern times as well – Life can be very nasty: look at the children who have been neglected and abused – the women that have been neglected and abused – the elderly who are neglected and abused – the people all across the world who are oppressed. There are wars that being waged in the name of freedom, religion, over the rights to diamond mines...all over the world, in these modern times, oh yes, life is still brutish in many ways. Short lives – the last time I checked, there aren't cures for every disease there is and so many millions of people that die young all across this globe...yes, life is still short for those people...so what was your point again??? Oh, that's right, that the Bible couldn't POSSIBLY be relevant in today's society...sorry, forgot in my ramblings}

      As our species has grown and progressed, we have tacitly rejected many portions of the Bible that are no longer culturally relevant – the instructions on how to treat human beings as property, for example. {I would like you to show me, in more than one verse where in the bible these specific instructions are, as well, please...}

      This doesn't make the Bible any less of an astoundingly insightful tome when it comes to human nature and the vices and virtues that drive us all. {But by your words, you are saying that it is, in fact, irrelevant...}

      It just means that the the Bible is simply a book! It is not the infallible, eternal source of the only Truth – it is a wonderful collection of stories that can reveal a path to bettering ourselves. {Oh, but it is the eternal source of the ONLY Truth, the truth of God, Jesus Christ and the TRUE history of man...surely, an educated man such as yourself, who is smart enough to know how to properly use big words like cognitive dissonance, does not really believe we just "evolved" out of nothingness...?}

      July 6, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @ChildofGod
      OK – we'll start with the easy ones first.
      Biblical references on how to treat people as property include:
      "If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom."
      Exodus 21:2
      "However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." Leviticus 25:44-46
      "Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." Exodus 21:20
      "An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth."
      Exodus 21:26

      You assert that I don't "get" the bible.
      Could you enlighten me as to which of the tens of thousands of sects of Christianity DOES "get it"? They can't all be right...

      Now, you have stated that modern concepts of gender equality are wrong.
      Unfortunately, that is a major disconnect between you and I. The women in uniform with whom I worked were just as capable as the men. The woman with whom I share my life is tougher, smarter and more capable than many men (certainly including me) in many traditionally male dominated fields.

      You said "Children still "labour' in fields, all across the world".
      That is correct, in essence. However, western countries have child labour laws prohibiting the exploitation of the underage. While your Nikes might have been sewn by a 6 year old Vietnamese boy, that type of thing is not accepted in North America.
      "women are still, at their own choosing relegated to "incubating and caring for croth critters"
      You put the relevant words in there yourself – AT THEIR OWN CHOOSING. Because you have other options, you are not relegated to the role of housewife – you are consciously and (presumeably) happily opting into that role. The freedom to chose any other role is not something afforded women in the Bible.
      Is life still nasty brutish and short? Not as compared to back then.
      Life expectancy is twice what is used to be. Infant mortality is a fraction of what it was in biblical times. Medicine and hygiene have eliminated common scourges from 2000 years ago. In North America, a significant portion of the population does no type of physical labour at all (hence the number of obese Americans). Our quality of life is VASTLY greater than that of middle easter sheep herders thousands of years ago.
      You say that the Bible is the "ONLY Truth, the truth of God, Jesus Christ and the TRUE history of man".
      Once again, if you believe a literal interpretation of Genesis, then we have an unbridgeable gap. The earth is older than 6000 years, humans did not live side by side with dinosaurs, there was no flood that wiped out the entire human race save for a 500 year old man and his immediate family, neither snakes nor bushes have ever talked, nobody has ever lived inside a whale, the Red Sea did not part etc. ad nauseum.

      Why is your book any more valid than the Tanakh, Talmud, Midrash, New Testament, Quran, Sunnah, Nahjul Balagha, Avesta, Vedas, Upanisahds, Bhagavad Gita, Puranas, Tantras, Sutras, Vachanas, Adi Granth, Purvas, Samayasara, Niyamasara, Pravacanasara, and Pancastikaya; Anupreksa; Samadhishataka of Pujyapada; Tattvarthasutra of Umasvati, Tattvarthasutra, Pali Tripitaka, Jataka,, Visuddimagga, Tripitaka, Lotus Sutra, Garland Sutra, Analects; the Great Learning; the Doctrine of the Mean; the Mencius, Tao Te Ching, Chuang-tzu, Kojiki, Nihon Shoki, K-oki, Ofudesaki, Mikagura-uta, Michi-no-Shiori, Johrei, Goseigen, Netarean Shower of Holy Doctrines, Chun Boo Kyung, Kitab-i-Iqan, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, Book of Mormon, Dianetics, or Revelation X since they are all Holy Books that claim to be The Truth?

      July 6, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
    • 1halffull

      The problem with what Calvin said is that God didn't make woman from the man's spine. Adam needed to use his and talk Eve off the ledge. He knew better. He chose his own path. He'd have fit in well in the current culture where no one accepts responsibility for their own actions – it's always someone else's fault.

      July 8, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
  19. tallulah13

    Oh brother. Does anyone need "a more wholesome version" of cr-ap? How about we stop living vicariously and start living our own lives?

    July 5, 2011 at 10:52 am |
  20. Hazel

    More religious crap. May all those DVDs get re-routed to the nearest landfill where they belong.

    July 5, 2011 at 10:44 am |
    • Me

      Ahh...yes, because there is absolutely no merit in anything religious. Don't forget-our country was founded on religious principles, whether you like it or not!

      July 5, 2011 at 11:37 am |
    • La, La, La

      I call them Evangenitals!

      July 5, 2011 at 11:39 am |
    • W247

      "More religious crap"

      You are so right! Go back to watching the incredibly uplifting "Housewives of Sk-a-nky Hill" series that you so much adore.... now THAT is not crap!!! (I hope you know that i am being sarcastic?)

      July 5, 2011 at 12:22 pm |
    • Hazel

      "Evangenitals!" LOL

      July 5, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Frogist

      @Me: Was it really? Please provide evidence to support this. Because as far as I know democracy is not a particularly religious principle.

      July 6, 2011 at 8:47 am |
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