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Focus on the Family refocuses on, well, family
Jim Daly, Focus on the Family's new leader, is trying to take the group in a new direction that may concern some evangelicals.
July 11th, 2011
10:56 AM ET

Focus on the Family refocuses on, well, family

By John Blake, CNN

A quick word association test: when I say “evangelical leader,” what comes to mind?

A critic of gay rights? A fierce defender of “family values?” A media-savvy preacher who blurs the lines between religion and politics?

Evangelical heavyweights like Focus on the Family founder James Dobson pioneered that brand of leadership. He and fellow broadcasters like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson were big players in church and national politics.

But Christianity Today profiles en emerging evangelical leader who's offering a different leadership model.

Jim Daly, the newish president of Focus on the Family, is steering the group in a new direction, according to a lengthy profile in the evangelical magazine by Sarah Pulliam Bailey.

Daly is trying to reduce the group’s emphasis on politics. He says he doesn’t want Focus to be driven by a “personality” but by a sense of mission because mission-driven groups have "greater staying power."

Daly told Christianity Today:

We tend to shut down the ears of people to hear the gospel because they only see you in a political context or as a conservative. Christianity must transcend politics in order to change culture and politics.

Daly’s predecessor, Dobson, may not share that point of view. The pugnacious Focus chief led the group to get involved in culture war issues such like opposing gay marriage and fighting back against the alleged “war on Christmas.”

Dobson, who founded Focus in 1977, once accused President Obama of holding a “fruitcake interpretation of the U.S. Constitution” and of deliberately distorting the Bible.

Dobson resigned as Focus board chairman in 2009.  Bailey’s piece said that he was “asked to resign” at a board meeting. (Dobson declined several interview requests through an assistant, Bailey reported).

As the group’s president and chief executive officer, Daly's leadership style is being felt ways big and small. He has relaxed the dress code at the group’s headquarters - men can now go without a tie, and women don’t have to wear dresses, skirts and pantyhose.

He’s also hired Esther Fleece, a 28-year-old, to lead the group’s efforts to connect with the millennial generation on issues related to sex trafficking, poverty, and the environment.

Daly's ultimate goal: Returning the organization to its original focus on marriage and family advice, according to Bailey.

Daly said that one of the reasons he’s so focused on families is because of his own upbringing. He was born to alcoholic parents, entered the foster care system and endured the suicide of his father.

He told Bailey:

I come from a broken childhood. That's what gives me the energy. I don't have a Ph.D. in it, but I guess it's the school of hard knocks.

Some say evangelical leadership is experiencing its own hard knocks. There’s been a lot written about their efforts to connect with a generation of younger evangelicals.

Daly’s apparent strategy to do that apparently involves dialing back political activism. Should other evangelical organizations follow his example? Or is it dangerous for evangelical groups to cede any political ground given the issues at stake today?

- CNN Writer

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  1. Plamen

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    July 29, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
  2. tryecrot

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    August 28, 2011 at 11:33 am |
  3. DiamondSky

    Yes, CNN, you have bias against conservatives and Christians. We knew it all along, but be more fair. Don't help your nation collapse more rapidly.

    July 13, 2011 at 9:42 am |
  4. Erik

    Hey, CNN. Why are ultra-liberal comments permitted to be rude, insulting, crude, and inappropriate, but when someone reminds you of the truth in a polite way, you don't even allow the post? It is because CNN is a dishonest servant of the devil, who Jesus referred to as the father of all lies. May God deal with the human race as he sees fit, and in the meantime, people who have their head on straight will not waste their time looking at CNN.

    July 12, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
    • Rhonda

      Chill, Brother. Sometimes you have to reword your comment to get it by the banned words mechanism.

      July 12, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
    • Reality

      The moderators of this blog have set up a secret forbidden word filter which unfortunately not only will delete or put your comment in the dreaded "waiting for moderation" category but also will do the same to words having fragments of these words. For example, "t-it" is in the set but the filter will also pick up words like Hitt-ite, t-itle, beati-tude, practi-tioner and const-tution. Then there are words like "an-al" thereby flagging words like an-alysis and "c-um" flagging acc-umulate or doc-ument. And there is also "r-a-pe", “a-pe” and “gra-pe”, "s-ex", and "hom-ose-xual". You would think that the moderators would have corrected this by now considering the number of times this has been commented on but they have not. To be safe, I typically add hyphens in any word that said filter might judge "of-fensive".

      • More than one web address might also activate “waiting for moderation”. Make sure the web address does not have any forbidden word or fragment.

      Sum Dude routinely updates the list of forbidden words/fragments.

      Two of the most filtered words are those containing the fragments "t-it" and "c-um". To quickly check your comments for these fragments, click on "Edit" on the Tool Bar and then "Find" on the menu. Add a fragment (without hyphens) one at a time in the "Find" slot and the offending fragment will be highlighted in your comments before you hit the Post button. Hyphenate the fragment(s) and then hit Post. And remember more than one full web address will also gain a "Waiting for Moderation".

      And said moderators still have not solved the chronological placement of comments once the number of comments gets above about 100. They recently have taken to dividing the comments in batches of 50 or so, for some strange reason. Maybe they did this to solve the chronology problem only to make comment reviews beyond the tedious.
      Zeb’s alphabetical listing

      o “bad letter combinations / words to avoid if you want to get past the CNN "awaiting moderation" filter:
      Many, if not most, are buried within other words, so use your imagination.
      You can use dashes, spaces, or other characters to modify the "offending" letter combinations.
      --–
      ar-se.....as in Car-se, etc.
      ba-stard
      co-ck.....as in co-ckatiel, co-ckatrice, co-ckleshell, co-ckles, lubco-ck, etc.
      co-on.....as in rac-oon, coc-oon, etc.
      cu-m......as in doc-ument, accu-mulate, circu-mnavigate, circu-mstances, cu-mbersome, cuc-umber, etc.
      cu-nt.....as in Scu-ntthorpe, a city in the UK famous for having problems with filters...!
      do-uche
      ef-fing...as in ef-fing filter
      ft-w......as in soft-ware, delft-ware, swift-water, etc.
      fu-ck......!
      ho-mo.....as in ho-mo sapiens or ho-mose-xual, ho-mogenous, etc.
      ho-rny....as in tho-rny, etc.
      jacka-ss...yet "ass" is allowed by itself.....
      ja-p......as in j-apanese, ja-pan, j-ape, etc.
      ji-sm
      koo-ch....as in koo-chie koo..!
      nip-ple
      pi-s......as in pi-stol, lapi-s, pi-ssed, therapi-st, etc.
      pr-ick....as in pri-ckling, pri-ckles, etc.
      ra-pe.....as in scra-pe, tra-peze, gr-ape, thera-peutic, sara-pe, etc.
      se-x......as in Ess-ex, s-exual, etc.
      sh-@t.....but shat is okay – don't use the @ symbol there.
      sh-it
      sl-ut
      sn-atch
      sp-ic.....as in disp-icable, hosp-ice, consp-icuous, susp-icious, sp-icule, sp-ice, etc.
      ti-t......as in const-itution, att-itude, ent-ities, alt-itude, beat-itude, etc.
      tw-at.....as in wristw-atch, nightw-atchman, etc.
      va-g......as in extrava-gant, va-gina, va-grant, va-gue, sava-ge, etc.
      who-re....as in who're you kidding / don't forget to put in that apostrophe!
      wt-f....also!!!!!!!

      There are more, some of them considered "racist", so do not assume that this list is complete.
      -–
      Allowed words / not blocked at all:
      anal
      anus
      ass
      boob
      crap
      damn
      execute
      hell
      kill
      masturbation
      murder
      penis
      pubic
      raping (ra-pe is not ok)
      shat (sh-@t is not ok)
      sphincter
      testes
      testicles

      July 13, 2011 at 12:21 am |
  5. Reality

    Focus on the family? Of course but don't complicate said families with the supersti-tions of religions.

    To wit:

    Reiterating the obvious:

    Recognizing the supersti-tions, flaws, follies and frauds in the foundations of Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Paganism, and Christianity by the "hatters", "bowers", kneelers" and "pew peasants" will quickly converge these religions into some simple rules of life. No koran, bible, clerics, nuns, monks, imams, evangelicals, ayatollahs, rabbis, professors of religion or priests needed or desired.

    Ditto for houses of "worthless worship" aka mosques, churches, basilicas, cathedrals, temples or synagogues.

    ======================================================================================

    July 12, 2011 at 6:44 pm |
  6. GodPot

    A quick word association test: when I say “evangelical leader,” what comes to mind? A critic of gay rights? A fierce defender of “family values?” A media-savvy preacher who blurs the lines between religion and politics?" – Article

    Feb 2011 -founder and senior pastor of Glory House London, Dr Albert Odulele was charged with two counts of se xual as sault

    2010 – former pastor Vaughn Reeves serving consecutive six-year terms for each of nine fraud counts, in a scheme that cost about 2,900 investors $13.1 million

    2010 – complaints were filed against Eddie L. Long by men that stated Mr. Long used his position as the church leader to entice or coerce the men into consensual se xual relationships in exchange for money, travel and goods.

    April 13, 2010 – Christian leader George Alan Rekers photographed at Miami International Airport returning from an extended overseas trip with a twenty-year-old "rent boy", or gay male prosti tute

    2007 – Coy Privette resigned as president of North Carolina's Christian Action League and from the Board of Directors of the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina, following revelations on July 19 that he had been charged with six counts of aiding and abetting prost itution

    2007 – Earl Paulk founder and head pastor of Chapel Hill Harvester Church in Decatur, Georgia from 1960 until the 1990s. A number of women from the congregation came forward during the 1990s and 2000s, claiming that Paulk had se xual relations with them charges of child mol estation were also made.

    2006 – Lonnie Latham, the senior pastor of South Tulsa Baptist Church and a member of the powerful Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee, was arrested for "offering to engage in an act of lewdness" with a male undercover police officer

    2006 – Paul Barnes founder and former senior minister of the evangelical church Grace Chapel in Douglas County, Colorado confessed his ho mo se xual activity to the church board, and his resignation was accepted.

    2006 – it was alleged that Ted Haggard, pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado and was the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, had been regularly visiting a male prost itute who also provided him with methamphetamine

    2006 – Kent Hovind, an American Baptist minister and Young Earth creationist, was charged with falsely declaring bankruptcy, making threats against federal officials, filing false complaints, failing to get necessary building permits, and various tax-related charges. He was convicted of 58 federal tax offenses and related charges, for which he is currently serving a ten-year sentence.

    2004 – Douglas Goodman, an evangelical preacher and pastor of Victory Christian Centre in London, England, was jailed for three and a half years for the se xual assault of four members of his congregation. Douglas has upon his release resumed full pastoral ministry alongside his wife.

    2000 – John Paulk, a former leader of Focus on the Family's "Love Won Out" conference and former chairman of the board for Exodus International North America, was found and photographed in a Washington, D.C. gay bar, and accused by opponents of flirting with male patrons at the bar. Paulk eventually confessed to being in the bar, but claimed he entered the establishment for reasons other than se xual pursuits.

    1999 – Roy Clements was a prominent figure within British evangelical christianity. In 1999, he revealed he was in a ho mo se xual relationship with another man, resigned his pastorship, and separated from his wife.

    1998 – Bob Moorehead, pastor of the Overlake Christian Church from the 1970s to June, 1998 was arrested in July, 1996 on a charge of indecent exposure in a public restroom in Daytona Beach, Florida. He stepped down amid allegations of molestation of adult members during baptism and wedding ceremonies that went as far back as 20 years.

    1991 – Robert Tilton, an American televangelist who achieved notoriety in the 1980s and early 1990s through his paid television program Success-N-Life. At its peak, it aired in all 235 American TV markets. In 1991, Diane Sawyer and ABC News conducted an investigation of Tilton. The investigation, broadcast on ABC's Primetime Live on November 21, 1991, found that Tilton's ministry threw away prayer requests without reading them, keeping only the money or valuables sent to them by viewers, garnering his ministry an estimated $80 million a year.

    1987 – Peter Popoff, A self-proclaimed prophet and faith healer in the 1980s, who's ministry went bankrupt in 1987 after magician and skeptic James Randi and Steve Shaw debunked his methods by showing that instead of receiving information about audience members from supernatural sources, he received it through an in-ear receiver.

    1986 – Evangelist Jimmy Swaggart began on-screen attacks against fellow televangelists Marvin Gorman and Jim Bakker. He uncovered Gorman's affair with a member of Gorman's congregation, and also helped expose Bakker's infidelity. Gorman retaliated in kind by hiring a private investigator to uncover Swaggart's own adulterous indiscretions with a prost itute. Swaggart was subsequently forced to step down from his pulpit for a year and made a tearful televised apology in February 1988 to his congregation. Swaggart was caught again by California police three years later with another prost itute, Rosemary Garcia, who was riding with him in his car when he was stopped for driving on the wrong side of the road. When asked why she was with Swaggart, she replied, "He asked me for s ex. I mean, that's why he stopped me. That's what I do. I'm a prost itute.

    "A quick word association test: when I say “evangelical leader,” what comes to mind?"

    July 12, 2011 at 10:47 am |
    • Rhonda

      The only point GodPot makes here is that no group of people is without offenders. Just because someone wears a particular tag does not mean that they rightly represent all under that name or that they are consistent in living according to the precepts of that group. Such generalization is untrue and even bigoted. If anything, the universal weakness of people to live up to the standards that we choose is evidence for the Bible's concept of sin.

      July 12, 2011 at 11:33 am |
    • Laughing

      @ Rhonda,

      These aren't just random people though within the greater congregation. These are the leaders of those congregations that are trying to preach the values that they themselves don't possess. I don't ask perfection from people because I know I'm not perfect, so why should these people who have a fair amount of power not only expect people to act like the facade they put on, but actually turn to rage and hate against the very people that the preachers/leaders are a part of.

      Doesn't the bible say, "he who is without sin should cast the first stone?"

      July 12, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • GodPot

      The only point I am making here is that when you say “evangelical leader,” this is what comes to my mind, and likely many others. And rightly so.

      July 12, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • donna

      LOVE IT!! The best response ever! Yep.

      July 12, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • JZ

      Now take that many number of cases and divide that by the number of preachers in the U.S., or in the world, and you have a .0000001% of preachers who are offenders.

      Most pastors are God-fearing, law abiding, and people loving, like mine is.

      You see only what you choose to see.

      July 12, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
    • Laughing

      @JZ

      And how do you know what yours does in the privacy of his own home? These are the cases of people getting caught, it stands to reason there are a lot more out there who are getting away wtih it.....food for thought.....

      July 12, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
    • GAW

      I'm sure that If someone wanted to make a case against Jews or blacks they could create a list like yours as well. Without making a case for any expression of faith It must be admitted that there will always be bad apples in the batch. It grieves me that it was the secular news media that bought their hypocrisy/crimes to light and not the religious community. btw. I little rule from logic states that "What is true of the part is in most cases not necessarily true of the whole" The problem with word association is that it can lead to misguided stereotypes that helps to feed racism and other misconceptions.

      July 12, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
    • JZ

      i mean thats a valid point.

      I'd say innocent till proven guilty. If you start with hate, you will only be a cynic. If you see people for what they are, you might actually think people can be decent.

      I've known my pastor for 10+ years. Why should I give you the benefit of the doubt, and not him?

      July 12, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
    • Laughing

      @JZ

      Valid, I was using yours as an example and I didn't mean to imply that you should immediately suspect him of being false, however to say that those are the only case and so obviously don't represent the whole is also painting a false picture. Keep in mind many of these men also had the same sort of relationship with their parishoners which made it even worse for them when they found out the acts these men were committing. To say that all evangelist preachers are gay and evil is obviously a misnomer but you have to admit that for a community that publically denounces these acts, a bigger portion than you would expect are the people committing these acts in the first place, doesn't that seem a little wonky to you?

      July 12, 2011 at 1:35 pm |
    • Rhonda

      @Laughing
      Re "... why should these people... actually turn to rage and hate against the very people that they are part of?" The phrase, 'Metinks thou dost protest too much", comes to mind. It seems like people who are trying to hide something often overcompensate with an over-the-top condemnation the thing that they fear seeing exposed in their own lives. This is a human defense mechanism, not a religion thing.

      July 12, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
    • Laughing

      @ Rhonda,

      By putting a "..." after I say these people completely misses the point. you removed the crux of my argument and then tried to debate with me. I protest too much because people with a lot of power in prestige in a community are inciting hate and violence against the very comm.unities they are a part of? Well then, lock me up! You are right that it's a human defense mechinism, but two things to that, 1 had religion not been there these people wouldn't have needed to deny, and deny so veheme.ntly, and 2 religion has given them a very tall soapbox in which to channel that self-hate to reach many more people than they probably should be able to. You definiti.tly missed my whole argument if you think my reply was, "these people complain about feelings they have.....and that's religions fault"

      July 13, 2011 at 9:57 am |
    • GodPot

      For those bringing out the "bad apple" defense, I wonder how many Islamic leaders you could list that have commited crimes or been charged with aiding terrorism? With a google search you might be able to get a list almost as long as the above one, and yet I rarely hear the "bad apple" defense coming from you when conservatives use a handfull of bad Imam's to disparage Islam. Funny how that works...

      July 14, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
  7. Civiloutside

    You can always count on Cracked for a bit of perspective...

    http://www.cracked.com/article_15759_10-things-christians-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on.html

    July 12, 2011 at 10:38 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Civiloutside

      Hello, my friend.

      Nice link. Good read...

      Regards,

      Peace...

      July 12, 2011 at 11:00 am |
    • GAW

      Thanks for the link. I guess that most Americans are fed up with both groups. Do we want to be told that we are either A. Going to hell because we don't meet all of the moral and theological standards of Fundamentalists or B. Endure being called a moron, idiot or dummy because we either believe in some sort of deity or entertain the possibility that one might exist.

      July 12, 2011 at 11:55 am |
    • Stevie7

      Good article. I particularly enjoyed the 'communion wafers is PEOPLE' picture.

      July 12, 2011 at 12:04 pm |
  8. Max

    Even here the far left wing bias is so blatantly obvious.

    Notice:

    A critic of gay rights? A fierce defender of “family values?” A media-savvy preacher who blurs the lines between religion and politics?

    and not:
    A critic of "gay rights"? A fierce defender of family values? A media-savvy preacher who blurs the lines between religion and politics?

    and, again:

    The pugnacious Focus chief led the group to get involved in culture war issues such like opposing gay marriage and fighting back against the alleged “war on Christmas.”

    and not:
    The pugnacious Focus chief led the group to get involved in culture war issues such like opposing "gay marriage" and fighting back against the alleged war on Christmas.

    July 12, 2011 at 7:38 am |
  9. Kathleen

    What a poorly researched article - I'm surprised that the reporter took Daly's word for it, given that Focus on the Family is known not just for its bigotry but also its dishonesty. This is a classic case of putting lipstick on a pig - Focus on the Family is still actively and agressively involved in pressuring and lobbying lawmakers to pass laws targeting gay and lesbian Americans for discrimination, along with all their other rightwing efforts to deny women reproductive rights, to force the teaching of Creationism in schools, to oppose anti-bullying programs for kids (because it might protect a gay kid, you know), to denying global warming, to opposing unions, etc.
    John Blake, do your homework. Investigate what Focus on the Family actually DOES, not just what it says. Look at their Citizenlink political pressure group - and stop writing puff pieces for bigots and hate groups like Focus on the Family.

    July 11, 2011 at 10:49 pm |
    • Lycidas

      Whether you like it or not, they have the right to express their feelings on such topics. If you want to ban selective free speech, then you have a larger problem with the way our nation operates.

      July 12, 2011 at 5:10 am |
    • herbert juarez

      lycidas: your white robe and hood are back from the cleaners

      July 12, 2011 at 6:12 am |
    • Lycidas

      @herbert juarez- How cute, you are trying and failing to make me out to be racist. But...go ahead and imply your lies all you want. Obviously facts are not your strong suit. 🙂

      July 12, 2011 at 7:48 am |
    • Peace2All

      @herbert juarez

      As much I may agree with @Kathleen's original posting above, I am also in agreement with my friend, @Lycidas here.

      Regards,

      Peace...

      July 12, 2011 at 10:26 am |
    • herbert juarez

      to lycidas and truth is not your strong point.

      July 12, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
    • Lycidas

      Your biased opinion herbert 😉

      July 12, 2011 at 9:00 pm |
    • herbert juarez

      @lycidas
      maybe biased ,but have read many of your posts on a variety of religion stories .note you are drawn to be a self appointed defender of the faith of the far right,perhaps others notice this as well.at the same time you lay claim to being an independent?this and several other misrepresentations lead me to post that truth is not your strong point.perhaps i am not the only biased reader,but hey that and other noted possibilities are things you have to live with aren't they?

      July 18, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
  10. Believer

    Blessing and peace to all. It looks like every one might have steered off from the purpose of this article, but there are so many interesting points being made. I thinks it could be a great change for the company, and I believe all things should be spirit led. I can relate with the Daly, I too grew up in a chaotic family. As a child growing up into an adult, I carried a lot of baggage with me. I struggled to just find guidance/order in my life because I had so much negativity/abuse. I would love to hear a program that focuses on 1st, Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the practical teachings of life. We have lost the whole site of what family is because God is not the center anymore. There are to may opinions and not spirit led leaders. I support the change and direction if God has led him to.

    Off topic:
    I was not raised Christian and when I was just in the world doing what ever and anything I wanted, following people and other religions, I felt so lost confused and alone. It brought temporary pleasure but was never fulfilled me. God must have been(and was) with me through out it all. I was a lot of religious people an had my share of hating them because I felt I was being judge by them, forced their views and all, this only drew me further away from any type of religion. I wanted no part of this. But God is so amazing, patient and gentle. He just put people around me that showed me not preach to me how our Lord and Savior is and how we should be. I now wanted to know what they knew about Christ, so I asked tons of questions and when I did I found myself looking at life differently and not looking at my self as a victim but a person God made for a purpose not to be used and abused. I also at the same time was looking into other religions and found so many contradictions but the one I kept going back to, was the Gospels (Holy BIBLE). Well to shorten my testimony, I came to know Christ for myself 5 yrs ago and I have not seen anything so amazing and rewarding in my life. I know what some of the post being made about God not being real and Christianity is nonsense, I thought the same way. But I would just say to those who don't believe, just educate yourselves stop listening to what others are saying also put aside your own opinion and let God speak to you. Christians should not be condemning, judging anyone, forcing laws, we are not GOD and the laws were covered/ our rituials will not get us into Heaven. God requires all of us to put HIM first, and personally other things will fall into place. I also learned that God works with us all differently so we should seek HIM first to know.
    I am a believer in Christ who still sins and fall short of His requirements and HE still loves me and blesses me and puts me back on the right path. I love these Scripture that states (1)"I am fearfully and wonderfully made." (2)I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength. (3)Greater is HE that is in Me than he that is in the world."I hope everyone who doesn't know Christ will try Him out at least for a day. I know God loves us all even when they still reject Him, just as a parent loves his child that is disobedient and or goes astray.

    -They resisted it before they experienced it. Once they experienced it, they enjoyed it.
    Bless you all

    July 11, 2011 at 8:50 pm |
    • News Flash

      So enjoyment remains your ultimate value.

      July 12, 2011 at 2:08 am |
    • AvdBerg

      You say you are a believer in Christ ans still sin. Didn't you even know that God came into this world in the Name of Jesus Christ to do away with sin? Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin (1 John 3:9). We invite you to read the article What is Sin? on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca All of the other pages and articles explain how this whole world has been deceived as confirmed in Revelation 12:9. How? Please read 2 Cor. 11:13-15.

      July 12, 2011 at 6:22 am |
    • jimtanker

      @ Believer

      You're a delusional fool.

      July 12, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • AvdBerg

      @JimTanker

      We just used scriptural references that you were unable to understand and therefore the natural man calls it foolishness (1 Cor. 2:14). But don't call "soldiers for Christ" fools. That is not nice.

      July 12, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
  11. David Johnson

    herbert juarez

    You said: "dna shows that we all come from one mother, so we know there was someone way back when."

    No. Mitochondrial Eve is not the Eve spoken about in the 6 day Creation story in your bible.

    I could explain, but I'm lazy and don't owe you an education. Google "Mitochondrial Eve"

    Cheers!

    July 11, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
    • herbert juarez

      i don't recall mentioning eve but thanks for putting words in my mouth.don't really need your education or help but hey cheers back and feel free to kiss my related...

      July 11, 2011 at 8:23 pm |
    • Q

      The quote infers a single mother of modern humans which is incorrect. That someone might assume your inherent reference to Mitochondrial Eve was the "Eve" of the Genesis myth was a logical deduction.

      July 11, 2011 at 11:53 pm |
    • herbert juarez

      to q you too maykiss my...and stuff your egghead logical deduction where the sun don't shine.the ah put a word in my mouth i did not say,and bottom line you don't really know what you are talking about, do you?

      July 12, 2011 at 6:02 am |
    • Peace2All

      @herbert juarez

      I think you may be missing @ Q's point in reference to your quote. You may want to re-read what both Q and DJ are saying and see where they may have a point about your quote.

      Insults, IMHO, aren't necessarily making your assertion appear any stronger here.

      Just some suggestions.

      Regards,

      Peace...

      July 12, 2011 at 10:24 am |
    • herbert juarez

      to peace 2 all: you should read the entire posts before running your mouth,the original post stemmed from a atheist guru ragging on another guy and putting words in his mouth as well.insults are my response to the buttinski know it alls .and as long as your head is that far up your colon why not check yourself for polyps. peace

      July 12, 2011 at 6:32 pm |
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