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July 20th, 2011
04:43 PM ET

Irish prime minister slams Vatican over child sex abuse

By the CNN Wire Staff

(CNN) - Ireland's prime minister has launched a stinging attack on the Vatican, a week after a report said the Catholic Church in Ireland did not take serious steps to stamp out child abuse by priests, even after the scandal blew up worldwide.

Prime Minister Enda Kenny said the Cloyne report, focused on the area around the southern city of Cork, had exposed the Vatican as seeking to frustrate an inquiry into child sex abuse for its own benefit.

"The rape and torture of children were downplayed or 'managed' to uphold, instead, the primacy of the institution, its power, standing and reputation," he told Ireland's lower house of parliament, or Dail, as it debated a motion on the report.

Read the full story on the Irish Prime Minister's remarks
- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Bishops • Catholic Church • Ireland • Sex abuse • Vatican

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  1. AvdBerg

    By reading the comments on this Blog it seems very obvious to us that all the foundations of the earth out of course (Psalms 82:5). For a better understanding of this scriptural verse we invite you to read the latest article ‘CNN Belief Blog ~ Sign of the Times’ listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca

    Please ignore any messages that inform you that we are on a troll and that ask you to activate the abuse button or even refer you to a gaychristian website. It is an attempt to discredit the work of our Ministry, which is for the edifying of the Body of Christ – His Church (Eph. 4:12).

    July 29, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    • AvdBerg

      By reading the comments on this Blog it seems very obvious to us that all the foundations of the earth out of course . For a better understanding of this scriptural verse we invite you to visit our website http://www.gaychristian101.com

      July 29, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • .....

      Thanks for proving what a troll you are by posting the same thing over and over again. The first post by AvdBerg is a troll on this site trying to sell their cult and book, when ever you see their post click the report abuse link to get rid of this troll.

      July 29, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
  2. AvdBerg

    A number of people that have written to respond to this article have spoken of the interpretation of the Bible, which is the number one problem in this present world as the Bible itself teaches us that no prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation (2 Peter 1:20). Only few people (Matthew 7:14) are able to understand the Bible and as long as mankind remains separated from God, the Word of God will remain a mystery.

    Mankind in his natural state is unable to understand the Bible and unable to receive the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned (1 Cor. 2:14).

    There is a natural body and a spiritual body (1 Cor. 15:44). The only thing that separates the Natural body from the Spiritual body is the Baptism of Repentance (Mark 1:4). To repent means: to change spirits and to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan, whose spirit mankind is of (Luke 9:55), unto God (Acts 26:18). This is not an interpretation. Many people search the Bible for in them they think they have eternal life, but when we bring them the Scriptures they don’t believe us (John 5:38,39). Confused? There is no need to be confused any longer. For a better understanding of the mystery of God we invite you to read all the pages and articles of our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca

    So, before mankind will be able to understand the Word of God, mankind requires to be converted and transformed by God (not by any religion) and only then mankind is able to understand the Bible, as it is God (John 1:1).

    All of the other pages and articles listed on our website explain how this whole world has been deceived as confirmed by the Word of God in Revelation 12:9. The Bible is true in all things and is the discerner of every thought and the intent of the heart (Hebrews 5:12).

    July 25, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
    • ....

      Still trolling trying to sell your cult and book it's complete garbage. Click the report abuse link to get rid of this troll.

      July 25, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
  3. OceanLight

    Europe's only salvation and safety and better future is repentance and going back to the Christian faith.

    July 23, 2011 at 1:07 am |
  4. OceanLight

    Ireland needs to hear of St. Patrick once again.

    July 23, 2011 at 12:19 am |
  5. Reality

    Prime Minister Enda Kenny has also been guilty of a major cover-up i.e. the truth about Easter.

    Saving said PM and all the Catholics of Ireland from the infamous resurrection con:

    From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

    Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

    To wit;

    From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

    "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
    Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

    Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

    Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

    The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

    Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

    "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."

    http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

    With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

    o An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,
    o
    o p.4
    o
    o "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."
    o
    o p.168. by Ted Peters:
    o
    Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

    o So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones

    July 22, 2011 at 10:21 am |
  6. AvdBerg

    For a better understanding of the many issues of s.ex abuse in the churches, especially the Catholic Church, we invite you to read the articles “The Mystery Babylon”, “Popes and the Princes of This World”, “S.exual Abuse in the Churches” and “S.exual Abuse ~ Vatican Involvement” listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca

    There are many other items on the Current Events page and a number of other articles that address the subject issue.

    All of the other pages and articles on the website explain how this whole world has been deceived as confirmed by the Word of God in Revelation 12:9. The Bible is true in all things and is the discerner of every thought and the intent of the heart (Hebrews 5:12).

    July 22, 2011 at 8:12 am |
    • geraldh

      Let's easily refute one item in mystery babylon as an example.

      31. ..... This implies therefore, that Mary did not need a Savior, and that she was divine. (The Gospel states, however, that all men (with the exception of Christ) are sinners. Mary herself states that she had need of a Savior, in that she refers to Christ as her Savior: Rom 3:23; 5:12; Psalm 51:5; Luke 1:30; 46-47).

      The Immaculate conception does not mean that Mary did not need a savior. There are two ways to save from a pit. One can be pulled from the pit or one can be stopped from going in. In no way does sinlessness imply that Mary is divine. Adam was sinless before the fall, do you claim he lost his divinity? Angels are Sinless, are they divine? You need to study Hebrew culture and language a bit with regard to the phrase "all have sinned".

      July 22, 2011 at 2:17 pm |
    • AvdBerg

      @geraldh
      To cear up the mystery of the Virgin Birth we invite you to read the article The Virgin Birth and the Appearances of Mary listed on our website.

      July 22, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
    • Gerald

      AvdBerg,

      Well gee your article says it, well I guess that settles it all. NOT. Sorry dude but your just another Johnny come lately Church that thinks it is wiser than what Christ set up on earth. Your article posts lies about the Catholic Church. They are pointed out to you and you do not repent of the lie. You just move on to another. Catholics DO NOT worship Mary. Worship is for God alone. We honor Mary for it says "all generations shall call me blessed" and so we do. She is human, not divine but she is Christ's Mother. He honors her and so do we. He listened to her when she said "they have no wine" and so honored her wish to provide wine and so we believe that we can ask HIM through HER and he will honor her requests.

      July 23, 2011 at 2:06 pm |
  7. logmion

    Has The Rock been negligent, breached its duty of care or committed crimes against god? then tell us your truthful stories of abuse and neglect and your views.

    Will whats happened to The News of the World happen to The Rock?

    At C.1:Q.96, Nostradamus foretells of an iconoclastic prophet, using refined language to continually educate, who is raised in the Last Days.

    Logmion is here and says "Bring Back Petrus Romanus"

    Facebook Logmion Pilon

    July 21, 2011 at 11:52 pm |
  8. Hovercraft99

    Butthead , you are so right !

    July 21, 2011 at 9:12 pm |
  9. OceanLight

    Ireland needs Catholic Church to stay sane.

    July 21, 2011 at 9:01 pm |
  10. butthead

    why do people even care about the Church? everyone knows there is no god! these child touch'n pervs hide behind a false idle using it to sway the minds and hearts of those put in the positions of power to enforce the law. if you were a devout believer and your figure-head of your god on earth was brought up on charges for child abuse...lets go one step further – your the cop who is in charge of arresting this piece of crap... could you do it? i could in a heart beat, with pride too! i have kids and i hold true that anyone who touches anyone should be broken using the torture used by the priests during the middle ages. i wonder how long before the pope starts talking? i don't not care about your religious beliefs, they are hiding the pervs they then are as guilty as the pervs, done deal... hang the pope, stretch him, i wanna see what god looks like! i can't image that if this is wrong to do that there god – the protector of the weak and defender of the wronged,will go poof! i'm sure halfway thru the trail god will appear to clear it all up, so no worries. time to try the pope for , well just for starters – conspiracy to with hold evidence- and they admit to doing it!!!!!!

    July 21, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
  11. butthead

    why do people even care about the Church? everyone knows there is no god! these child touch'n pervs hide behind a false idle using it to sway the minds and hearts of those put in the positions of power to enforce the law. if you were a devout believer and your figure-head of your god on earth was brought up on charges for child abuse...lets go one step further – your the cop who is in charge of arresting this piece of crap... could you do it? i could in a heart beat, with pride too! i have kids and i hold true that anyone who touches anyone should be broken using the torture used by the priests during the middle ages. i wonder how long before the pope starts talking? i don't not care about your religious beliefs, they are hiding the pervs they then are as guilty as the pervs, done deal... hang the pope, stretch him, i wanna see what god looks like! i can't image that if this is wrong to do that there god – the protector of the weak and defender of the wronged, i'm sure halfway thru the trail god will appear to clear it all up, so no worries. time to try the pope for , well just for starters – conspiracy to with hold evidence- and they admit to doing it!!!!!!

    July 21, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
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