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July 22nd, 2011
12:44 PM ET

New reality series tracks lives of American Muslims

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - TLC is premiering a reality series about the lives of American Muslims this fall,  "All American Muslim," the cable TV network announced this week.

The series tracks five Muslim families living around Dearborn, Michigan, home to one of the nation's largest Muslim enclaves.

The series is about “inviting viewers into a world they might not otherwise experience,” said TLC's general manager Amy Winter in a press release.

"Through these families and their diverse experiences, we will explore how they blend their values and traditions with everyday life in America," Winter said in the Thursday release, "providing insight into their culture with care and compassion.”

The series, which premieres in November, tracks "very distinct lives that often times challenge the Muslim stereotype," according to the release.

Characters include a pair of tight-knit sisters, one of whom wears a traditional Islamic headscarf and one who sports piercings and tattoos and has recently married an Irish Catholic man who is converting to Islam.

Another character is a consultant to big auto manufacturer and struggles to strike a balance between work and raising a modern Muslim family, according to the TLC release.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released earlier this year found that 46% of all Americans have a favorable view of American Muslims, while 26% have an unfavorable view.

"Overall, positive views of American Muslims have risen since 2002, when memories of 9/11 were still fresh in most Americans' minds," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland in March, when the poll was released.

In 2002, only 39% of all Americans said they had a favorable view of Muslims.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Islam • Michigan • TV

soundoff (533 Responses)
  1. Amira

    Find a surat in the Quran or Hadith that speaks of Muslim domination. Ready,set, go!

    July 22, 2011 at 11:30 pm |
    • BG

      Reality did just this on page 2. Then you told him that he didn't understand the 'context.' Here.. I'll save you some time with the rest of the argument. It goes like this... (apologies if wordpress can't keep the format..)

      1. Show me the verses that...
      2. Did you read the verses or just look them up?
      3. Did you actually read the koran?
      a. Which koran? Sorry, that's the wrong koran.
      b. Was is a translated koran? Sorry that's the wrong koran too.
      c. Where did you get the koran?
      (1) from a library. Wrong koran.
      (2) from the internet.
      (a) Islamic site. Which site?
      Probably the wrong one with unapproved sources.
      (b) non-Islamic site.
      Wrong (of course) in every respect. How foolish of you.
      (3) from a mosque.
      Well.. that depends on what you were told by the person that gave it to you. Probably not accurate.
      4. I read the koran given to me by an Imam. (Really?) The Imam answered all my questions.
      a. Which Imam was it?
      (1) A moderate Imam
      (2) An extremist Imam
      (3) An apostate who used to be an Imam
      (4) A disillusioned Imam
      5. The only acceptable koran is one written in ancient Arabic.
      a. Do you understand ancient Arabic?
      If not, who exactly interpreted it for you?

      So goes the Islamic rebuttal and koranic scholar "shell game." It's never the right koran, interpretation, professor, website, yada yada...

      July 23, 2011 at 12:56 am |
    • Muneef

      BG.
      After greeting you, I would like to comment with what an excuse you have about the translation..!?! Have you tried comparing the verses from different translation? Well if you did then you will become to know the one meaning could have many words for it...

      July 23, 2011 at 1:13 am |
    • BG

      @ Muneef

      "... comparing the verses from different translation?" I guess that could be point 6. Sorry I overlooked that one !

      Hi Muneef. Trust you've been well. My point is that Koranic text, as with any religious text, can be, and regularly is, interpreted to meet the needs of the reader. The "bottom line" is the action taken by the reader as they believe their religious text directs them. If Christians or Jews behaved as so many Muslims behave, and used their respective religious texts to justify their behaviors, the world would have ended long ago. It simply cannot tolerate that much turmoil.

      Obviously the Koran can be interpreted to advocate passivity as well as violence. It is inherently contradictory, and likely purposefully so. Truth be told, I, for one, really don't care what the Koran 'says' to Islamic believers. I care not what is 'written' in the Koran, or how it is 'interpreted.'

      I care more about how Muslims behave. In Somalia, Al Shabab, a force identifying themselves as an Islamic 'organization' is currently behaving very, very badly. As a result, many people will die.

      July 23, 2011 at 2:06 am |
    • Muneef

      Warlords created by your systems are using the name of God again in making life for ordinary people miserable...they want to force Abyssinian Christianity on to them as did in the past to Yemen to force Christianity upon the Yemenites of Yemen..!

      July 23, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • Muneef

      525-635 – Abyssinian & Persian Occupation
      http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/yemen/history-4.htm

      July 23, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
    • Hana

      @BG, yet if you look at the post that Reality made, you will see I replied to it with the correct passages. Yes, there are some differences between transliterations and what not, and they can change a meaning in a word or two. But, most of his quote are not accurate at all.

      July 23, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
    • BG

      @ Muneef

      Psst... The U.S. wasn't around in 570 AD. You can't blame America for the Persian occupation of Yemen. Not even smallpox. Nope. Not our fault. We didn't take your camels and elephants either.

      @ Hana

      Thanks for the correction. Obviously Reality was using the "wrong koran." Seems that happens a lot....

      July 23, 2011 at 4:43 pm |
    • Muneef

      Talking about Christianity or rather say the Catholics at that time and not the US...!?! The Abyssinian Church used tobe ruled by the Church of Rome..!

      July 23, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
    • Hana

      BG,

      It is not about a "wrong" Quran. Yes, there are some variations on pronunciation, vowels, and such that can change some words. Yes, there is some difference in translation. But, the majority of what Reality posted is not differences of a few words, the entire quote is simply WRONG. It is a blatantly inaccurate quote.

      July 23, 2011 at 7:08 pm |
    • BG

      Well, I guess you need to ask Reality to source his quoted Koran verses. Oh, and I'll be sure to add "blatantly inaccurate" to my list..

      Let's see, we're up to #7. "Blatantly inaccurate quotes."

      But wait, if it's not accurate, then how can it be quote?

      July 23, 2011 at 7:19 pm |
    • BG

      @ Muneef

      I got stuck on your comment in the other string about "blackhawks" being responsible, but then you skipped back a few hundred years to play tag with the ancient Christians...

      So, sure... it's their fault. Whatever. I can't verify it one way or the other, so go ahead if it makes your day better.

      July 23, 2011 at 7:25 pm |
    • Hana

      BG,

      It is easy to quote something and have it be blatantly inaccurate.

      On December 12, 2010, BG said "I love Muslims and want to learn more about the Quran".

      There you go. A blatently inaccurate quote.

      Is it a quote? Yes. Did you in fact say that at that time? No.

      That is how many of Reality's "quotes" are. He must have gotten them from somewhere. But, his citations are WRONG. The actual verses that he cited are completely different than what he claims them to be.

      Its like saying that "We the people, in order to form a more perfect union..." was from Mien Kampf. Citation is important.

      July 24, 2011 at 12:47 am |
    • BG

      @ Hana

      " He must have gotten them from somewhere. But, his citations are WRONG."

      That's the whole point... he hasn't provided any "citations," so how can you say they're wrong? So, instead of arguing semantics and sarcasm with me, why not just ask Reality for his sources? It's a pretty good bet that he didn't just make up Koranic verses on his own... he got them from somewhere.

      But no matter... they're wrong anyway. Ha! Gotta love it.

      July 24, 2011 at 3:52 am |
    • Hana

      BG

      I finally found this thread again,

      Perhaps you can not read. Reality stated that they were verses of the Quran and gave the Surra and verse of each. That is a citation. That is what I am arguing about. The Surra and verse that he lists are not correct. I looked them all up according to the Surra and verse provided and copied the actual quote (when needed) from that citation in a posted reply to him.

      If these quotes he posts are in the Quran, then he should provide accurate citations to the Surra and verse to have the opportunity to read it all in context. Context is important as many verses of that nature are recording the history of a particular battle or something similar, not a commandment for all Muslims to practice. Its like reading the story of the fall of Jericho in the Bible, you dont see Christians and Jews still walking in circles around a city and blowing horns before every battle do you? It was a one time thing. But, when the citations are incorrect, then we dont even have proof that it really is in the Quran at all.

      You are the one just trying to argue. If you had actually read the post on the next page you would have seen those citations.

      July 25, 2011 at 7:58 pm |
  2. Reality

    The nitty-gritty of Islam in less than 300 words:

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror?

    The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means.

    Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................
    ========================================================================================

    July 22, 2011 at 11:28 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Quibbling over which parts of any religion are "obviously myth" (as opposed to *cough* ALL OF IT) amuses me.

      July 24, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
  3. Amira

    Some of you are so ignorant and disgusting. Its funny to me how growing up Muslims were known as basically the peace freaks, and now they are categorized as terrorists and second class human beings. The Bible, Torah, and Quaran are all very similair with VERY small variations.educate yourselves before you speak ignorant. And the Norway attacks were carried out by a Norwegian citizen, who, GET THIS, is not muslim or Arabic. Also, for those of you simple minded biggots, not all Musims are Arabic and not all Arabs are Muslim. Where does this misconception that they treat women like second class citizens come from? I'm married to an Arab Muslim and I can assure you that there is no 2nd class treatment in my home. Instead of googling the Quaran and what it says, sit down and educate yourslef by reading it. You might learn a thing or two about humanity and the truth behind all the ignorant and outrageous misconceptions.

    July 22, 2011 at 11:27 pm |
    • SAWolf

      So whats with the burka, you think your women are so hot that we westerners won't be able to control ourselves? Yep your cranial alpha keratin really is a turn on, NOT.

      July 23, 2011 at 11:43 am |
    • Bozobub

      Most Muslim women *do not* wear Burkhas. Sorry, your Klan hood is showing, we see you =) .

      July 24, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
  4. achmed rahemoh

    Allah akbar! *pushes det button on suicide vest*

    July 22, 2011 at 11:19 pm |
  5. ag

    Though these things are like a novelty now, these will be the end of America in the long run...

    July 22, 2011 at 10:47 pm |
    • ag is a dingbat

      Reality TV will kill America? HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

      July 22, 2011 at 11:06 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Ha.

      July 24, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
  6. katmoondaddy

    I'd rather watch a test pattern.

    July 22, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
  7. George

    If you don't understand Muslims by now, then you are naive or blind, perhaps both.

    July 22, 2011 at 10:31 pm |
    • Colin

      So, let me try. They believe that all women are second class citizens and should go through life semi-hidden from the World, that the master of the Universe spent 22 years giving the secrets of life and death to an illiterate pedophile on a Saudi mountain, and that anyone who disagrees with them should be killed.

      Did I get it?

      July 22, 2011 at 10:47 pm |
    • Hana

      Colin, please learn to separate religion and culture. The Quran does not teach for women to be second class anything or to be hidden away. It is people who mess it up.

      July 23, 2011 at 3:08 am |
    • Bozobub

      If you go ONLY by Koranic verse, as opposed to 3rd-party texts accepted by various sects of the Muslim faith, women are actually supposed to be revered, NOT oppressed, as they are in some Muslim cultures. Ah, but there's the rub: many Muslim sects DO use the 3rd-part books (which have diddly to do with Mohammed) to justify all sorts of misbehavior and tomfoolery. Still, this represents a minority of the Muslim faith, and to pretend otherwise is simply ignorant.

      July 24, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
  8. Colin

    Perhaps a more topical series might track Muslims in Norway, given that the violent, disgusting pigs just killed 80 or so innocent people.

    July 22, 2011 at 10:30 pm |
    • Colin

      Other Colin here. Let's wait and see. Not sue yet.

      July 22, 2011 at 10:55 pm |
    • Joey

      He wasn't muslim, retard!!!

      July 22, 2011 at 11:07 pm |
    • Frogist

      @Colin: Considering who turned out to be the Norway killer, you have a helluva lot of egg on your face right now, Colin. By your logic, hope you're not a white, right-wing Christian, you might be a terrorist too.

      July 25, 2011 at 10:10 am |
  9. Richard S Kaiser

    AreYouaBeliever writes; “Jesus is GOD's only begotten SON. Everyone else is an imposter. Many will come in HIS name, be aware, they are Anti- Christs. We love our muslim people, and want them to know the REAL TURTH. Only way to the FATHER, is through HIS SON JESUS the Christ (our Messiah and Redeemer).No Other Way. We know this will disappointed, anger, frustrated, and leave many unfufilled. But there is an answer. Call upon HIS name, admit you are a sinner in need of a savior,
    repent, and believe he is the Christ, and be saved. We pray GOD will soften your hard hearts, open you blind eyes, reveal HIMSELF to you, and give that initial mustard seed size of faith to believe and be saved.
    If so, see you in heaven.
    If not, won't see you there.” On July 22, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    AYB, Can it be said that Christ Jesus is Married To All Christendom’s Churches wherewith the RCC is Christ’s Mother-In-Law Church and the CCC is Christ’s Uncle-In-Law Church? The RCC Being The Roman Catholic Church and the CCC Being the Chinese Catholic Church? This is MY STORY AND I’M STICKING TO IT!

    Christ May well Be GOD’s First Born but None of Us were Truly There when IN THE BEGINNING GOD Created and Did Establish Universalism as in the Universe and ALL that does dwell upon the Celestial Enclaves Upon This Heaven of its’ heavens’ IN And Upon The Earth. There is GOD and There are Gods and even gods. Which Of These 3 are of Human Manliness and There is GODDESS and Goddesses and goddesses. Ergo, Which of these are of Human Womanhood? These Words are a Trinity of Probabilities.

    July 22, 2011 at 9:03 pm |
  10. Iqbal Khan

    Increase your knowledge about Islam check
    http://www.Islamhouse.com

    July 22, 2011 at 8:47 pm |
    • katmoondaddy

      I don't want to know anything about Islam. I want to have nothing to do with the terrorists OR the so-called peaceful ones. I have no interest in helping them, knowing them, seeing them, hearing them or smelling them during Ramadan. Muhammed and Allah will never exist in my lifetime and if I can help it nor my children's and grandchildrens's lives. They are poisonous, plotting, purveyors of lies, deceit and an abomination of mankind. God should have exiled them to Hell many senturies ago.

      July 22, 2011 at 10:39 pm |
    • Muneef

      Hello Iqbal Khan.
      How are doing long time disappearance it was...take care.

      About the guy don't worry I already smell the burning of him on earth before time of Hell....

      July 23, 2011 at 1:18 am |
    • SAWolf

      How can we make you go away?

      July 23, 2011 at 11:46 am |
    • Muneef

      Upon GOD's Will...thank you for your advice...

      July 23, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  11. Katya

    For the past ten years I've learned more about muslims that I ever wanted to know. Won't be watcning this blatant agenda pushing tlc.

    July 22, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
  12. BG

    Let's see if TLC will tell 'the rest of the story', or if this is just a propaganda piece. My guess is the latter. I wonder who's on the TLC board... hmm.

    Here's a reality check.

    http://www.rightsidenews.com/images/stories/May_2011/US/Islam_in_America/Saieg-JudgesOpinion.pdf

    On a lighter note, the attacks in Norway today were likely caused by a Norwegian-born ultra-nationalist who was reportedly fed up with his country's liberal immigration policies.

    Not an endorsement... just an observation.

    July 22, 2011 at 7:17 pm |
  13. For Norway

    Islam is an arabic word. It means "BANG!!!"

    July 22, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    • frank

      Do they have a Special Olympics for comedians? You should look into this.

      July 22, 2011 at 7:24 pm |
    • Muneef

      Are they still wear horns there?

      July 23, 2011 at 1:22 am |
    • SAWolf

      submission, although after 911 they tried to tell people it meant peace, F'ing liars.

      July 23, 2011 at 11:48 am |
  14. WesH

    The tea baggers are gonna have to bust out their old "Ground-Zero Mosque" picket signs to protest this one.

    July 22, 2011 at 3:45 pm |
    • NOo..oON

      @WesH,
      Are you saying that Repulbicans "Tea Bag" their se.xual partners, or are you just jealous that you aren't allowed to?

      July 22, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
    • Beel

      For every teabagg-er there is a tebagg-ee. Assume the position, bagg-ee, and smile as the bag makes contact with your chin

      July 22, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
  15. AreYouaBeliever

    Jesus is GOD's only begotten SON. Everyone else is an imposter.

    Many will come in HIS name, be aware, they are Anti- Christs.

    We love our muslim people, and want them to know the REAL TURTH.

    Only way to the FATHER, is through HIS SON JESUS the Christ (our Messiah and Redeemer).

    No Other Way.

    We know this will disappointed, anger, frustrated, and leave many unfufilled.

    But there is an answer. Call upon HIS name, admit you are a sinner in need of a savior,
    repent, and believe he is the Christ, and be saved.

    We pray GOD will soften your hard hearts, open you blind eyes, reveal HIMSELF to you, and give that initial mustard seed size of faith to believe and be saved.

    If so, see you in heaven.

    If not, won't see you there.

    July 22, 2011 at 3:10 pm |
    • Are You Sane

      If all of the above sounds like upside-down bullshit on toast, then you are a fully formed human who does not need delusions and superstitions to deal with the real world. Congratulations!

      July 22, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Some of Jesus' aliases include:
      Sun Myung Moon, Emanuel Swedenborg, Baha u llah, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, David Koresh, Hailie Selassie, John Thom, Arnold Potter, William Davies, George roux, Ernest Norman, Krishna Venta, Ahn Sahng-Hong, Jim Jones, Mashall Applewhite, Hulon Mitchell, Wayne Bent, Ariffin Mohammed, Mitsuo Matayoshi, Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda, Inri Cristo, Thomas Provenzano, David Icke, Shoko Asahara, Hogan Fukinaga, Marina Tsvigun and Sergei Troop.

      July 22, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
    • AreYouaBeliever

      It might help if you read first, then respond.

      Sorry, you replied as expected.

      So, I'm not surprised.

      Nice blogging with you two.

      July 22, 2011 at 3:57 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @AreYouABeliver
      Allow me to translate you rpost.
      Jesus is GOD's only begotten SON. Everyone else is an imposter.
      (My beliefs are the only valid ones)
      Many will come in HIS name, be aware, they are Anti- Christs.
      (Anyone who claims otherwise is inherently evil)
      We love our muslim people, and want them to know the REAL TURTH.
      (I tolerate those I believe are hell-bound so that I might convert them)
      Only way to the FATHER, is through HIS SON JESUS the Christ (our Messiah and Redeemer).
      No Other Way.
      (Reiteare prior point about my belief being the only valid one)
      We know this will disappointed, anger, frustrated, and leave many unfufilled.
      (Lots of folk try to call me on my BS)
      But there is an answer. Call upon HIS name, admit you are a sinner in need of a savior,
      repent, and believe he is the Christ, and be saved.
      (But if you'd just parrot the same pablum as me, all will be good)
      We pray GOD will soften your hard hearts, open you blind eyes, reveal HIMSELF to you, and give that initial mustard seed size of faith to believe and be saved.
      (I wish other people would suspend their critical thinking and drink the kool-aid with me)
      If so, see you in heaven.
      If not, won't see you there.
      (I take solace in believing that people who don't think like me are doomed)

      July 22, 2011 at 4:05 pm |
    • Lycidas

      @Doc- "(My beliefs are the only valid ones)"

      Isn't that what most ppl think? Or do you think Reality, David Johnson and perhaps even you believe other ideas like Christianty are valid?

      July 22, 2011 at 4:08 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @lycidas
      I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, moral relativism is a truism.

      July 22, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
    • Lycidas

      Otherwise....your opinion based on what you think is right.

      July 22, 2011 at 4:21 pm |
    • AreYouaBeliever

      Doc, what if someone doesn't agree with speed limit signs on the expressway and they just want to do what feels right, sense right and wrong- good and evil don't really exist. What are the consequences?

      Maybe you don't believe in gravity either. That is all make believe too. Let me know how the REAL ground feels after you jump off a hundred story building.

      July 22, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
    • Zainab

      This post made me reconsider everything...not...still Muslim.

      July 22, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban

      AreYouaBeliever

      Jesus is GOD's only begotten SON. Everyone else is an imposter.

      Many will come in HIS name, be aware, they are Anti- Christs.

      We love our muslim people, and want them to know the REAL TURTH.

      Only way to the FATHER, is through HIS SON JESUS the Christ (our Messiah and Redeemer).

      No Other Way.

      We know this will disappointed, anger, frustrated, and leave many unfufilled.

      But there is an answer. Call upon HIS name, admit you are a sinner in need of a savior,
      repent, and believe he is the Christ, and be saved.

      We pray GOD will soften your hard hearts, open you blind eyes, reveal HIMSELF to you, and give that initial mustard seed size of faith to believe and be saved.

      If so, see you in heaven.

      If not, won't see you there.

      ---–
      Amen and god bless the Christian Taliban

      July 22, 2011 at 6:14 pm |
    • arthurrrr

      this sounds like absolute truth to me.

      July 22, 2011 at 6:20 pm |
    • Hana

      Well hmmmmm..... I got to the first line and realized you know absolutely NOTHING about Islam, so the rest will just be jibberish. And I was right.

      Before you are going to try to preach to people, try to learn about what they believe.

      We dont believe that Jesus or ANYONE else was the divine begotten son of God. We do accept him as a prophet, we even accept the virgin birth and his miracles. Just not divinity or equal to God. And Islam does not view Muhammad as divine or even born any special way. Just a mortal human prophet.

      July 22, 2011 at 8:14 pm |
  16. Peter Bulgin

    I beweeve dat islam is a bad thing. Cause, see, like I think that people should be ninjas. Hide like a chicken and smell like a ball. Thats what my mommy always said. She was a ninja. Im cool. Im part ninja.

    July 22, 2011 at 3:08 pm |
  17. Reality

    Reiteration is great for the learning process. As is reading and rational thinking followed by conclusions based on all of it.

    Islam and world domination:

    "Mohammed could not have known the size of the world, but several passages in the Koran show that he envisioned Islam dominating all of it, however large it might be: “He it is who sent his messenger . . . that he may cause it [Islam] to prevail over all religions´(Koran 9:33, M.M. Ali; see also 48:28 and 61:9). M.M. Ali designates these three passages as “the prophecy of the ultimate triumph of Islam in the whole world.”

    Mohammed’s successors, the caliphs, quoted passages like these to inspire Muslim armies as they advanced out of Arabia, imposing Islam by the sword upon a peacefully unsuspecting Middle East and North Africa, as I described in the previous chapter.

    Islamic armies, imbued with what Mohammed claimed was divine authorization, imposed Islam by force over vast areas, all the while extorting wealth from subjugated Jews and Christians to fund their ongoing conquests. As I noted, major defeats at Tours, France, in A.D. 732, and again at Vienna, Austria, in A.D. 1683, halted Islam’s attempt to take all of Europe by force. Gradually Islamic forces were forced to retreat from Europe, except for part of the Balkans. But Islam has again set its sights on a conquest of Europe and of European civilization, wherever the latter has spread to North and South America and other regions. Muslim strategists ask their followers, Why do we find in these modern times that Allah has entrusted most of the world’s oil wealth primarily to Muslim nations?

    Their answer: Allah foresaw Islam’s need for funds to finance a final politico-religious victory over what Islam perceives as its ultimate enemy: Christianized Euro-American civilization. So, Islam follows Nazism, fascism and communism as the world’s latest hostile takeover aspirant.

    Nazis, fascists and communists failed. Does Islam have a better chance at success? I believe it will flounder if we awaken to its threat in time; yet, if there is not adequate planned resistance, Islam does have a better chance of succeeding. Communism’s world takeover attempt was guaranteed to fail because its economic policy was naively contrary to human nature. Advocating the rubric What is mine is thine, and what is thine is mine, communism failed to see that human nature will not keep those two balanced propositions in equilibrium. Like a female black widow spider consuming her mate, the latter part of the formula makes a meal of the former, leading to the collapse of any system based upon that formula.
    In contrast, political systems do well if they can persuade people to adhere to What’s mine is mine and What’s thine is thine maxims.

    Only if a strong religious incentive is added does such an idealistic formula have any long-term chance. Even then success will be spotty. But communism (and Nazism, for that matter) excluded religion. And that mistake was the final nail eventually clamping a lid on communism’s coffin. Communism, on a historical scale, perished while still in its childhood.
    Islam is not repeating communism’s mistake. Mating political cunning and incredible wealth with religious zeal, Islam does have a chance to succeed and will succeed unless major parts of the Western world unite to take appropriate countermeasures. But many Western leaders, unable to believe that a mere religion could possible be a serious political threat, keep proclaiming themselves as Islam-friendly, reasoning that all religions are good-aren’t they?
    A Muslim strategist in Beverly Hills, California, declared several years ago, as quoted by a friend of mine: “Now that the struggle between Western democracies and international communism is winding down, it is time for the real and final struggle to begin, and we are going to win!”

    – Don Richardson

    July 22, 2011 at 3:08 pm |
  18. W247

    How about a show called "All American" that showcases families from different religious backgrounds. That would be better..and more tolerant!!!

    July 22, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • Hana

      I agree. It would be better if everyone stopped singling us Muslims out. Just show all of the American spectrum, and include us. I can see the educational benefits of showing people we are not all scary and hate America. But, being singled out is like taking one step forward and two steps back.

      July 22, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
    • BG

      @ Hana

      So, you want everyone to stop singling out Muslims? How about the Muslims? When will you stop singling yourselves out?

      You demand exclusivity for everything from food preparation to public education. You want to prohibit free speech and mandate Islamic public toilets. You want to require everyone to eat Halal meat and yet you ban non-Muslims from public places during your 'private times' in public pools and recreation facilities. You refuse to wear clothing designated by international athletic associations and insist on covering yourselves in public places. You refuse to subordinate your 'religion' to any political governance or society, preferring to impose a theocratic agenda upon us by taking every opportunity to ply acts of non-conformity in efforts to place yourselves in positions of superiority according to the precepts of sharia. Islamic prayer rooms at work? Please. it is not -us- who are 'singling' out the Muslims... it is you. You, my dear. And we know it.

      You and your ilk are liars and subversives. The Islamic agenda will be stopped in America. Sooner than you think.

      July 22, 2011 at 8:47 pm |
    • Hana

      @ BG

      Sorry honey, it aint me you are talking about. I choose to dress modestly and wear a scarf on my head, which is a protected right in this country. I go to the house of worship as I choose, which is a right in this country. Other than that, I pray at home or in the Mosque. If there is not food that I can eat somewhere (eating kosher, seafood, or vegetarian from any restaurant is just fine), I go somewhere else. If I ever felt the need to have my children to do something different than what is in public education, on the basis of religion, I would take them to a private school. I have not even heard of anything about changing public toilets... but, whatever.

      I am simply American living an American life, and I happen to be Muslim. The closest thing to special treatment that I ask is to know what is in the food so I can choose accordingly. But then again, I would expect that even if I was not Muslim as I also have food allergies. So, even there... nothing unique, I am just like every other American reading ingredients lists due to food allergies, religious dietary laws (like Jews and Hindus, etc), or people who just have dietary choices (vegetarians and vegans).

      July 22, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    • BG

      @ Hana

      So, it's the old "I'm an American and Islam is benign" response.

      SSDD. Not for -your- benefit, but for the kafir readers here, state-sponsored universities in England, New Zealand, Australia and the U.S., many having received Saudi fiscal support, have been installing Islamic toilets for several years. Some have gone so far as to make the Islamic toilets for "Muslims Only," effectively establishing the beginnings of a new apartheid. Many private/public facilities, i.e., shopping malls, have built Islamic toilets with private funds. Several municipalities in the U.S. have tried it, but changed their plans after public outcry.

      http://www.islamist-watch.org/about.php

      Let me be clear, Hana – I'm not here to argue with you, but simply to pull the curtain back from your act for the benefit of the uninitiated who still believe that Islam doesn't pose an inherent threat to western civilization. The continued Islamic dog-n-pony show and blatant examples of various governments' acquiescence to it is quickly wearing thin on rational people. The world is polarizing in response against Islam.

      And I wonder... why is no action being taken against Al Shabab in Southern Somalia because they insist on forbidding any aid to reach the population? By intervening with international aid efforts and disavowing any drought, they are essentially dooming what's left of the population. Yet the Western powers were ready to shoot down Kadhfi and actively endorse the unseating of other dictators.

      July 23, 2011 at 12:01 am |
    • Hana

      BG

      What act? You want to pull back what curtin? I have been completely honest. I know nothing about any toilets being installed anywhere. And if you posted that it is the Saudi's doing it... well that explains it. I dont agree with the Wahhabi movement and most of what Saudi does. So, I dont waste my time reading about their assorted financial ventures.

      You may take things however you wish to take them. I am simply stating that I, ME, MYSELF, am just an American who happens to be Muslim. I have no plans, no agenda, not goals or aspirations of changing the US or anyone else to fit my faith. Only to educate people about the misconceptions that are spread around.

      What you say is true about many Muslims. So, I am not correcting you on that (others on these boards, but not you). But, dont push their flaws and failures as human beings on me or other innocent Muslims.

      July 23, 2011 at 3:17 am |
    • BG

      @ Hana

      " Only to educate people about the misconceptions that are spread around."

      It seems we have one thing in common.

      " What you say is true about many Muslims...But, dont push their flaws and failures as human beings on me or other innocent Muslims."

      That's -exactly- what I'm doing. Further, that's what the entire non-Muslim world is doing. Sitting. Watching, waiting to see if the Islamic world can self-govern and protect their populations fairly and humanely. Has Egypt following the Arab Spring? Has either the Arab League or any influential Imams or Islamic organizations made an effort to convince the Islamic leaders of Al Shabab to accept needed international aid? Has -any- Islamic country, up to and including Iran, attempted to provide aid to Somalia in the face of the -very real- drought? Based upon history, the world presupposes (probably correctly) the answers and outcomes.

      Your 'faith' (I qualify it as I, and many, many others, view it as a tool of government and control rather than as a religion) is under scrutiny. Like it or not, Islam is being judged in the court of public opinion. Unless and until the world is convinced of the sincerity of Islam as a faith rather than as an implement of self-interest, oppression and destruction, then all – that's right... all, Muslims are suspect. You are guilty by association. You are guilty in your collective failure to correct behaviors that by any standard of human consideration qualify as blatantly aberrant. Maybe the Arab Spring was a start, or maybe the Muslim Brotherhood will pervert what could have been a viable future.

      If I were to tell you that I was a member of the KKK or the Westboro Baptist Church, what conclusions might you draw? Oh, I never set a cross on fire, or protested a U.S. serviceman's funeral with a "God Hates Gays" sign.. but say I believed their message (not). Were Nazi soldiers 'innocent' in the retrospective judgment of contemporary civilization? (yes, I'm well aware of how that comparison rankles Muslims.) In the extreme, is John Demjanjuk 'guilty,' or was he simply a functionary in a uniform following orders?

      The world is waiting to see if Islam will allow the death of Somalia, ensure the fair governance of Egypt or Yemen, or abate the belligerence of Iran and the paranoia of Pakistan. There's 1.6B of you. It's incredulous that you're incapable of becoming responsible citizens of the world. Then again....

      July 23, 2011 at 4:16 am |
    • Hana

      @BG

      That is exactly the point I am making. As I am sure those that are going this show are intending. To show that not all Muslims are the same. There are different groups, different schools of thought, different sects, different interpretations. The point is to educated people that we are not all supposed to be judged the same. Millions of people are all different. I am almost the complete opposite end of the religious spectrum from the form of Islam that is in control in Saudi Arabia.

      Some are extremists. Some are moderate but fanatical in it. Some dont really practice at all, but still claim to be Muslim and believe. Muslims have been moving to and living in the US for a long time. Even Cedar Rapids Iowa had the first Mosque built in the US in the 1930's I think. And for decades, those Muslims were treated as neighbors and fellow Americans. Now all of a sudden, because of the actions of Muslims on the other side of the world (mostly), we are all suspect.

      I dont judge someone just because they are in the KKK. Now, if they start saying derogatory things to me, then I would feel nervous. Look, I work with and am friends with people who are Bikers, Goth, Catholic, Mormon, Protestant, Agnostic, Pagan, Techies, Bi, Gay, Trans... etc. I simply dont judge people by a stereotype. I expect the same.

      July 23, 2011 at 1:55 pm |
    • BG

      One day, a scorpion stood on the side of a stream and asked a frog to carry it to the other side.

      "How do I know you won't sting me?" the frog asked. "Because if I sting you, I'll drown too," the scorpion said.

      The frog thought about it and realized that the scorpion was right. So he put the scorpion on his back and started ferrying him. But midway across the stream, the scorpion plunged its stinger into the frog's back. As they both began to drown, the frog gasped, "Why?"

      The scorpion replied, " What did you expect? I'm a scorpion – I can't help it."

      +++++++++++++++++++++

      " because of the actions of Muslims on the other side of the world (mostly), we are all suspect."

      "Mostly?"

      How many times does a country need to get bombed for it to count with you? How about 'near misses,' do they count?

      But I like this one the best: " I dont judge someone just because they are in the KKK."

      Keep talking. Please. Talk a lot – then talk more.

      July 23, 2011 at 4:34 pm |
  19. Doc Vestibule

    I bet that show would be a lot more entertaining if it were filmed in Texas, Tennesee, or one of the other southern, bible belt states.

    July 22, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
    • lloyd roberts

      Funny Doc, I'd love to see that too. Would be the greatest tragic comedy out there

      July 22, 2011 at 2:04 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Doc V.

      Good point Doc.

      Peace...

      July 22, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
  20. AvdBerg

    For a better understanding of Muslims living in the USA we invite you to read the articles “World History and Developments in the Middle-East” and “Clash of Civilizations” listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca
    All of the other pages and articles on the website explain how this whole world has been deceived as confirmed by the Word of God in Revelation 12:9. The Bible is true in all things and is the discerner of every thought and the intent of the heart (Hebrews 5:12).

    July 22, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
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      July 22, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
    • News Flash

      What, no wine ?

      July 22, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
    • The Gospel of St. Monty

      "There shall, in that time, be rumors of things going astray, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o'clock."

      July 22, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
    • 42

      ................Oh no, not again..............

      July 22, 2011 at 5:09 pm |
    • LinCA

      @Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything

      Yup. Again.

      July 22, 2011 at 11:21 pm |
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