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Norway suspect admired bloggers who say Europe is drowning in Muslims
Norway attacks suspect Anders Behring Breivik frequented websites that see the modern world as a "clash of civilizations."
July 27th, 2011
09:42 AM ET

Norway suspect admired bloggers who say Europe is drowning in Muslims

By Tim Lister, CNN

(CNN) - Anders Behring Breivik was a prolific blogger and visitor to online sites that reaffirmed his worldview.

Breivik's taste in online conversation shows a compulsive interest in websites that see the modern world in terms of a "clash of civilizations," where Christian values are supposedly under siege in the face of an Islamic onslaught.

But rarely if ever does he seem to have advocated a violent response to what he saw as the Islamization of Europe, even as he planned a massacre for years.

The head of Norway's intelligence police, Janne Kristiansen, told a Norwegian newspaper Monday that Breivik had "deliberately desisted from violent exhortations on the net. He has more or less been a moderate, and has neither been part of any extremist network."

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  1. Muneef

    Smell that Africa is coming to Europe this time not as immigrants...

    August 2, 2011 at 2:06 pm |
  2. Muneef

    http://www.avaaz.org/en/independence_for_palestine_9/?copy

    July 31, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
    • officialmer

      No. Terrorist states that exist to terrorize should not exist in the land that Joshua conquered many moons ago.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:08 am |
    • Muneef

      Hah... They have many moons? OMG why we Muslim Arabs have one moon only..

      August 2, 2011 at 10:53 am |
  3. FaithScent

    Christianity alone spreaded by willing conversions amidst the heaviest, bloodiest persecutions, rescuing and liberating everyone on the path all around the world.

    July 31, 2011 at 10:03 am |
  4. Muneef

    Islam or Christianity by Birth are Not Religions but rather a political Nationality & National Ident-i-ty !!

    July 31, 2011 at 9:08 am |
    • Reality

      And Muneef is a Muslim by birth making him a Three B "Syndromer" i.e. Bred, Born and Brainwashed in Islam.

      July 31, 2011 at 4:37 pm |
    • Muneef

      Islam or Christianity by Birth are Not Religions but rather a political Nationality & National Ident-i-ty !!

      Religion is not by Birth, Religion it is by Faith,therefore they are not as Equal or Alike.
       Kindly refer to following Quran verses ;

      --–
      "The blind and the seeing are not alike; (19) Nor are the depths of Darkness and the Light; (20) Nor are the (chilly) shade and the (genial) heat of the sun: (21) Nor are alike those that are living and those that are dead. Allah can make any that He wills to hear; but thou canst not make those to hear who are (buried) in graves. (22)".
      -----
      "These two kinds (of men) may be compared to the blind and deaf, and those who can see and hear well. Are they equal when compared? Will ye not then take heed? (24)".
      ----
      "Say: "Are the blind equal with those who see? Or the depths of darkness equal with Light?" (16)".
      ---–
      "Is one who worships devoutly during the hours of the night prostrating himself or standing (in adoration), who takes heed of the Hereafter, and who places his hope in the Mercy of his Lord― (like one who does not)? Say: "Are those equal, those who know and those who do not know? It is those who are endued with understanding that receive admonition." (9)".
      ---
      "Not equal are the blind and those who (clearly) see: nor are (equal) those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and those who do evil. Little do ye learn by admonition! (58)".
      --–

      Example; Late Amy Winhouse was Nationally known to be of family of Jew but she personally was not a Religious Practising Jew.... 
      Have came across termbe been used here to refer to people such as ;
      - He was A Christian Atheist....or was A Jew Atheist... 
      Or other way of identifying some one they say;
      - He was American White Christian Atheist.
      - He was American White Christian Muslim.

      Notice the use of nationalities given here;
      - The Country's Nationality.
      - The Race Color Nationality.
      - The by birth Community Religion Nationality..
      - The Actual or Converted to belief Nationality.

      There are other Nationality terms such as the Religious Sectarians and the Regional family  Area.
      -----

      From every Religion you will find those who are committed (A) and those who are counted on the Religion but are not religious nor they believe (B);
      Now we ought to find out who is generating the trouble ? Are they Group (A)or (B) from each By Birth Religion...!?

      July 31, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
    • Reality

      Muneef ( as are most of his Sunni Muslims) was born into Islam and obviously has been thoroughly brainwashed but there is a Five Step program to free him from the shackles of this violent cult:

      Saving Muslims is quite easy!!!

      The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

      ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

      Are you ready?

      Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

      The First Five of the 77 Branches:

      "1. Belief in Allah"

      aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your cleansing neurons.

      "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

      Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

      "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

      A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

      "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

      Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

      Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

      Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

      "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."

      Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.
      Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

      Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

      Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..

      August 1, 2011 at 8:01 am |
  5. Muneef

    Always thought the world is drowning in Yellow... As Islam or Christianity by Birth are Not Religions but rather a Nationality..!!

    July 31, 2011 at 9:01 am |
  6. Muneef

    Peace and Ramadan Kareem to all Muslim Brothers and Sisters...Inshallah fasting from Monday Dawn to SunSet...
    Just wonder in Christians or non Religious have tried fasting as Muslims do...am sure with time they will adopt it as a system for the health benefits it holds health and body...it is told it helps the body to discharge and burn out the poisonous chemicals from our bodies other than controlling weights... Some say they can not because of smoking other for water or food...but other than that is controlling anger or bad mood of the empty stomach, controlling one's tongue from hurting any one,to control eyes from staring at desire... Above all those to a Muslim he is to Maintain Prayers and Quran Reciting which of course beside it being a spiritual matter it is meant the body exercise by the up's and down's of prayers....as well as training of tongue & lungs by the Quran Recitation...these beside Tasbih "Praise of Glorify" helps to control one's breathing..

    So you see it is all good and challenging since only by those means can you gain control your desires... 
    -–

    Control of Desire Quran verses same Verse in Arabic but in English check translation and God knows how many are other more...such as these things case confusion among non Arab Muslims and non Muslims..although all end to mean same thing but in different ways that caused it be misunderstood...then the fact of being translated in many languages in the same way...! This was just a standing example of the Quran although still alive existing and in one copy !?
    Then imagine what could have had happened to the Torah and or Gospel having passed through three dead languages,one after the other then from a classic language into modern language, in many different copies then into many languages.

    Read and Judge; 
    ----
    [79:40] As for the one who reverenced the majesty of his Lord, and enjoined the self from sinful lusts.
    [79:41] Paradise will be the abode.
    ---–
    But as for him who feared to stand before his Lord and restrained his soul from lust, (40) Lo! the Garden will be his home. (41)
    --–
    And as for him who dreaded standing before his Lord, and restrained his soul from lust, (40) Verily the Garden! -that shall be his resort. (41)
    ---
    And for such as had entertained the fear of standing before their Lord's (tribunal) and had restrained (their) soul from lower Desires, (40) Their Abode will be the Garden. (41).
    ----
    But as for him who feared standing before his Lord, and restrained himself from impure evil desires, and lusts. (40) Verily, Paradise will be his abode. (41).
    ----
    Whereas for the one who feared to stand before his Lord, and restrained his self from the (evil) desire, (40) The Paradise will be the abode. (41).
    ----

    July 30, 2011 at 9:57 pm |
  7. Muneef

    If it is true Europe is drowning in Muslims then it must be because Christians are becoming less...! 
    If it is true Europe is drowning in Colored then it must be because European whites are becoming less... !
    But what was the Question "Muslims or Colored" since both are same to certain blood races... The game of "Masters&Slaves" rather than "Equality to Mankind"..."The Beast in man is in regaining power over all Declared Rights".
    Mankind is under slavery in Different Colorful Masks by Religious or Poltical Ent-i-ties".

    July 30, 2011 at 9:21 pm |
    • FaithScent

      Yes, pagans of barbarism always get defeated by monotheists. That's the way it is. Present Europe and America are too pagan to do anything significantly.

      July 31, 2011 at 7:36 am |
  8. Rainer Braendlein

    The German mass media cover Breivik's crime as follows:

    "A devout anti-Islamic Christian has murdered 77 Muslims."

    Obviously the German mass media try to create an atmosphere like this: Everybody, who criticises the Islam, is a murderer, particularly when he claims to be a Christian.

    Seemingly the Islamic community has got such a big impact on Germany's economy that the German politicians don't daresay anything against Islam any longer.

    Conclusion: There is a giant difference between criticising someone and killing someone. Criticism and murder is not the same!

    German mass media should go to Siberia! How goofy they are!

    July 30, 2011 at 8:27 am |
    • Keith

      Whenever someone like the Fort Hood shooter commits an act of terror we are lectured on not jumping to conclusions, and not profiling, blah, blah, blah...But when someone who does such an act so much as passes within a thousand miles of a Christian, then the media labels him as a murderer and condemns Christianity as a whole. What a hypocritical joke! Anyone with half a brain can see the double standard.

      July 30, 2011 at 9:06 am |
    • FaithScent

      Wow, Germans ARE indeed crazy. They should stop hating Americans.

      July 31, 2011 at 7:34 am |
  9. Keith

    Abbas was in Norway just prior to the shooting/bombing rallying support for a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital. The kids on the island were holding signs saying boycott Israel. They support the PA who regularly shoots/bombs Israeli civilians. I guess that's okay in their eyes-unless of course it happens to them. Kind of reminds me of Obadiah 1:15, "For the day of the Lord is near the heathen: As thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee; Thy reward shall return upon thine own head."

    July 30, 2011 at 8:25 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      That is interesting. I did not know that the Breivik's victims supported Islam directly.

      However, it was a heavy crime, what Breivik did.

      Instead of killing the people, he could have established a own party, trying to preserve Islamic invasion by political means.

      Breivik tried to stop Islam with Islamic means (murder), but that will cause the opposite: amplifying the Islamic impact, because the next 20 years they will shout on us: There are also Christian fanatics, killing people.

      July 30, 2011 at 8:42 am |
    • Keith

      Rainer B, I suppose my point is not so much focused on the crime or the criminal. It is a Biblical principle which I find interesting. Blessing and cursing Israel (Genesis 12:3). It shows yet again that the Bible is real and very relevant especially in the age in which we live. For me to write this comment is the equivalent of whacking a hornets nest with a stick early in the morning. The hornets hate Biblical truth as it is more evidence that God is real-a thought that is unfathomable to them. So they will chalk it up to coincidence or some other thing. They will never admit that the Bible is true, even when it's straring them in the face. Their foolish mind has been blinded.

      July 30, 2011 at 9:26 am |
    • Keith

      For anyone who's interested, the Israeli gov't has an interesting video on the "Truth about the West Bank" that you might find interesting posted on youtube.

      July 30, 2011 at 9:47 am |
    • Muneef

      I thought from the beginning that this might be related to the two country states between Palestinians and Israelies...since the supervisor about the agreements is Oslo but then when few said not related I thought about the joining of the islamic Turkey to the Euro union...after all both issues are hated by the Israelies and I wouldn't be surprised if they were found to be behind recruiting this guy to do their terror work for them to bring an issue and change balances by reactions...!

      August 2, 2011 at 12:32 am |
  10. Sympathey

    Norway is 90% Christian, the majority of them Lutheran. 4.4 million Christians out of 4.8 million Norwegians.

    July 30, 2011 at 5:33 am |
  11. FaithScent

    Europe is drowing in immorality hating Christianity, nothing else.

    July 30, 2011 at 4:49 am |
  12. John


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    July 30, 2011 at 1:20 am |
    • ....

      This garbage isn't worth your time viewing, click on the report abuse link to get rid of this troll.

      July 30, 2011 at 10:19 am |
  13. Muneef

    Could not open this report to see but maybe you can;
    http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/393042/july-25-2011/norwegian-muslish-gunman-s-islam-esque-atrocity?redirect=true

    July 30, 2011 at 12:18 am |
  14. Reality

    The "ministry" of AvdBerg includes belief in the Boook of Revelation. Said book is as insane as said "ministry"

    "Nineteenth-century agnostic Robert G. Ingersoll branded Revelation "the insanest of all books".[30] Thomas Jefferson omitted it along with most of the Biblical canon, from the Jefferson Bible, and wrote that at one time, he "considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams." [31]

    Martin Luther "found it an offensive piece of work" and John Calvin "had grave doubts about its value."[32]

    July 30, 2011 at 12:16 am |
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    July 29, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
  16. AvdBerg

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    July 29, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
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