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Poll: 52 percent approve of God’s job performance
July 27th, 2011
11:58 AM ET

Poll: 52 percent approve of God’s job performance

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - If you think voters are in cranky mood over politics, a new poll suggests that some of the dissatisfaction may run deeper.

God’s job performance has trouble measuring up to many Americans' expectations, according to a poll by Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm based in North Carolina.

Only 52 percent of Americans approve of God’s job performance, the survey found, though just 9 percent disapprove.

The polling question that prompted this curious response was, "If God exists, do you approve or disapprove of its performance?"

"When asked to evaluate God on some of the issues it is responsible for, voters give God its best rating on creating the universe, 71-5," the polling report said. "They also approve of its handling of the animal kingdom 56-11, and even its handling of natural disasters 50-13."

Dino Grandoni cited the poll in a blog for the  Atlantic Wire:

On the bright side for the Almighty's re-election chances, God is still more popular than House Speaker John Boehner and both Republicans and Democrats in Congress, all of whom polled at 33 percent in the same poll.

(snip)

Believers or not, it seems ridiculous for the public to categorically grade God like this, until you realize that it's pollsters who asked the questions in the first place

Public Policy Polling used automated telephone interviews to survey 928 American voters from July 15 to 17. The voters were represented by a mix of liberal, moderate and conservative voters. The poll's margin of error  was +/-3.2%.

- CNN Writer

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soundoff (2,575 Responses)
  1. Fred1

    All things considered I give god very high marks for his new management style. When you look at how badly he F’ed things up on earth during the dark ages via his (at the time) all powerful church, I applaud his new hands off management. Backed off, shut up and doing his very best to look like he doesn’t exist

    July 29, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
    • Sue

      Fred1, if I was grading, I'd give you very high marks for that post.

      July 29, 2011 at 9:28 pm |
    • herbert juarez

      your post shows an incredible lack of knowledge of both the historical and spiritual realm,one more area of comment and you would have a perfect trifecta of ignorance, you are on the verge of your own greatness! high marks indeed!

      July 30, 2011 at 8:00 am |
    • Sue

      herbert, you must be a Christian, combining unsubstantiated declarations with insults like that.

      The existience of your silly bible god is less credible than the existence of the tooth fairy, and furthermore, your "god" would be a much more nasty being than any comic villain if it existed. Get over it already and get a life.

      July 30, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
    • herbert juarez

      @sue

      July 31, 2011 at 6:20 pm |
  2. Ted Bungee

    Barry, do some thinking for a change. You've been challenged and bible spewing won't help you this time:

    And the basis for your "fact" is what exactly? Your bible again? Quite the circular reasoning you Christians spew.

    Gotta laugh at ""For a day is but a thousand years to YHWH (the Lord), and a thousand years is but a day.""
    -way to hedge on that one, son. Never let a requirement for a reasonable statement stand in the way of selling religion to the idiot masses.

    YHWH = BS BS BS. Get past your ancient fairy tales and get a life.

    July 29, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
  3. Muneef

    Think we have "Tom&Jerry" messing about endlessly...!!

    July 29, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    • AvdBerg

      Everybody knows Jerry always wins. Just trying to open minds to being Christian and gay.

      July 29, 2011 at 7:09 pm |
    • Muneef

      You said; "Just trying to open minds to being Christian and gay.".

      My asking; "did you mean to say " Just trying to open minds to accept the being Christian and gay".

      Think the later sound reasonable since am sure you did not meant to turn the whole to being Christians and gays...!?

      July 29, 2011 at 10:59 pm |
    • Muneef

      Nop. I think you were right from the first place...sorry

      July 29, 2011 at 11:01 pm |
  4. AvdBerg

    By reading the comments on this Blog it seems very obvious to us that all the foundations of the earth out of course . For a better understanding of this scriptural verse we invite you to visit our website http://www.gaychristian101.com

    July 29, 2011 at 6:50 pm |
  5. Barry

    Ted Bungee,

    Why are you even on this site?

    Do you derive pleasure from being cruel and destructive?

    My comment was made to someone other than you and was made in good faith.

    What kind of a person are you?

    My atheist friends would be ashamed of you.

    July 29, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      Hello again Barry,

      I await with civilty's sakes to read more of your posts. My being as a Secularist with Christian fundamental Beliefs is at times a hard pill to swallow! As we are gods we are not yet adopted by our inner Gods and we will never be GOD, the all knowing and all seeing and all allowing whatever the case may be! May your Inner God of whose name is not known by you keep Christ Jesus as your inner God's King and Lord.

      July 29, 2011 at 6:34 pm |
    • Ted Bungee

      Barry, read and think for a change. You haven't been doing that so far:

      And the basis for your "fact" is what exactly? Your bible again? Quite the circular reasoning you Christians spew.

      Gotta laugh at ""For a day is but a thousand years to YHWH (the Lord), and a thousand years is but a day.""
      -way to hedge on that one, son. Never let a requirement for a reasonable statement stand in the way of selling religion to the idiot masses.

      YHWH = BS BS BS. Get past your ancient fairy tales and get a life.

      July 29, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
  6. Barry

    Bucky Ball,

    You make a good point.

    The Old Testament makes one thing clear, God's people were often unfaithful (idolatrous), and that it was difficult for them to abandon idolatry.

    The Assyrian and Babylonian exiles did, however, seem to go a long way in helping them turn away from their idols and the ethics that accompanied idolatry.

    You make a good point.

    July 29, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
  7. Barry

    Nonimus

    I appreciate your question, for it is a good one.

    What you said is true, ancient men and women did perceive their world in terms of the supernatural, but the problems
    confronted then are still the same ones that confront modern man and woman. Although there has been an evolution in our understanding of the world and although there is greater sophistication in terms of our logic, the problems remain the same.

    The problems for the ancients were problems of loneliness; family problems; problems with survival; problems with disease and matters of health; problems of fertility; problems of crime and violence; problems of more powerful nations and warfare; problems with contentment and joy; etc..

    And of course the ultimate problem that confronted humans was the formidable problem of death and the grave.

    The problems that confronted ancient humans are similar to those taken from today’s newspapers.

    There is a well-known quote, which speaks about the problem of everyday life, about crime and how the young have no respect for their elders; and, as it’s read, you would think it was taken straight out of last night’s editorial section.

    The quote is one that was written in ancient Egypt, thousands of years ago.

    Long story short, we are still up against forces and powers that are far greater than we are: death, hunger, disease, violence, racism, discrimination, etc..

    Even though the texts of Genesis employ the genre forms of that day (story, poetry, employing stories from popular myth, etc.), the simple fact remains that the points presented in Genesis and other Scriptures still provide answers for the inevitable problems of life.

    Our sophistication may evolve; we may at a later time speak about creation in terms of the logos (logic or understanding), but the simple fact remains, we’re only human and God is in control.

    "For a day is but a thousand years to YHWH (the Lord), and a thousand years is but a day."

    July 29, 2011 at 5:43 pm |
    • Ted Bungee

      And the basis for your "fact" is what exactly? Your bible again? Quite the circular reasoning you Christians spew.

      Gotta laugh at ""For a day is but a thousand years to YHWH (the Lord), and a thousand years is but a day.""
      -way to hedge on that one, son. Never let a requirement for a reasonable statement stand in the way of selling religion to the idiot masses.

      YHWH = BS BS BS. Get past your ancient fairy tales and get a life.

      July 29, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      Hello Barry and all other bloggers,

      It is of Truthful Word your Script within this blogger haven. What was once True in the ancient days of the Romanairians among otherly Old Nations of the Supreme are still with us to this very day as a constant reminder for the educated religious for they can earnestly see GOD"s Hand in the developing world and how it is being reshaped socially and Globally. Many nations are of unsound principalities and they are being held together by Other nation's moneys, 2 Kings says,"Thus saith the LORD, Set thine house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live." In plain words any nation in today's timeline should get their Own Nation in Order lest the upheavels of fracturing Martyrdom will maim and destroy such a nation that cannot clean up their nation's woes and ills.

      July 29, 2011 at 6:11 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ Ted Bungee,

      Hello teddy bear,

      I dislike your Word of beguilement and somewhat vile baligerancy! Barry did quote the Gospel of Christ stating that "A thousnad years is but a day and a day is but a thousand years" I am somewhat of a science buff and can amplify this quote by Barry.

      Heregoes; A thousand years of mankind's existence is equal to One Day to GOD who stands outside of our universe and looks inwardly while a day is but a thousand years equates to the Gods who dwell inside our bodies and look outwardly.

      July 29, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
    • frank

      I think a golgi apparatus has taken over your brain.

      July 29, 2011 at 6:27 pm |
  8. Muneef

    This was not written by Muslims !! 
    Revelation 13 and Its "Beasts"
    The two beasts described in Revelation 13 are among the most enigmatic parts of the book of Revelation, and they have inspired no end of commentary. What is the meaning of these two beasts?

    Let’s begin by briefly describing what John saw as the first beast. It was a monster having seven heads and ten horns — each with a crown — rising from the sea (verse 1). On each of the beast’s heads John saw a name that blasphemed God (verse 2). This beast derived his power and "great authority" (verse 2) from the dragon, who is identified as the devil and Satan (12:8). In fact, the beast was "given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation" — and they worshiped him (verses 7-8).
    http://www.gci.org/bible/rev/beast

    July 29, 2011 at 5:15 pm |
    • Muneef

      Revelation tells us the beast’s mentor is the dragon or Satan, who gives him power, authority and a ruling throne (verses 2, 4). The dragon works behind the scenes through the beast, and he will not be mentioned much until chapter 20. But we know that he is the one who is responsible for leading the "whole world astray" (12:8). We can then define the beast from the sea or the Roman Empire as the agent of the dragon on earth.

      The beast from the earth
      Chapter 13 introduces us to the two agents through whom Satan carries out his war against the people of God. The first beast from the sea was grotesque, with seven heads and ten horns. It possessed the combined characteristics of leopard, bear and lion.

      The second beast comes out of the earth. His appearance is not so terrifying. While he speaks with the power of the dragon, he has only "two horns like a lamb" (13:11). This beast is later identified as "the false prophet" (16:13; 19:20; 20:10).

      The main function of the second beast or false prophet is to cause the world to worship the first beast, who represents secular political power. Thus, he is something of a chief priest in the beast’s kingdom.

      The second beast establishes the ideological foundation of the anti-God empire or kingdom on earth. He creates the instruments and rituals of worship in his name. The second beast uses his religious authority to underpin the political, military, social and inst-i-tutional power of the first beast.

      The second beast has been called the antichrist’s Minister of Prop-a-ganda. In many respects his nefarious work is a parody of Christ establishing the kingdom of God

      July 29, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  9. Barry

    Cloutsville,

    Societies and individuals either adhere to the just principles of monotheism, or they do not; this includes societies and individuals, who are not religious in the classical sense.

    Some have referred to the seemingly innate sense of right and wrong in humans–this “moral law within”–as one of the evidences of God. Paul wrote about this in the first chapter of his New Testament epistle to the Romans.

    Wasn’t it Emanuel Kant, who as he considered David Hume’s works, said that there are two things that troubled him: The starry heavenly host (the stars) and the moral law within?

    Of course there are those who claim to be religious, yet their lives violate the very essence of the faith they claim to embrace.

    Jesus dealt with this problem often. Jesus called these people hypocrites, and he condemned them, in strong terms.

    One of my atheist friends leads a life which is remarkably similar to mine. He is humble, kind, loving, just, and he has devoted his life to helping and serving others. I consider him to be living by godly principles and following the teachings of Jesus.
    He doesn’t believe in Jesus, as I do, but he once showed me a little cross he carried in his pocket; and, he told me that he carries this, because he admired Jesus and tried to imitate.

    Jesus once said that it is the sick who need the physician, not the healthy.

    Some people simply do what is right.

    July 29, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
  10. Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

    "Blessed are the destroyers of false hope, for they are the true Messiahs – Cursed are the god-adorers, for they shall be shorn sheep!"

    July 29, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      "ALL religions of a spiritual nature are inventions of man. He has created an entire system of gods with nothing more than his carnal brain. Just because he has an ego, and cannot accept it, he has to externalize it into some great spiritual device which he calls "God"."

      July 29, 2011 at 5:08 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      "The devils of past religions have always, at least in part, had animal characteristics, evidence of man's constant need to deny that he too is an animal, for to do so would serve a mighty blow to his impoverished ego."

      July 29, 2011 at 5:09 pm |
  11. Reality

    It is very disturbing that religious narrow- mindedness, intolerance, violence and hatred continues unabated due to radomness of birth. Maybe just maybe if this fact would be published on the first page of every newspaper every day, that we would finally realize the significant stupidity of all religions.

    July 29, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
  12. Barry

    Come to my gay friend Avdberg's website http://gaychristian101.com. Come share with us.

    July 29, 2011 at 2:21 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      Well that is 2 gay christians now.

      July 29, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • Barry

      To: Barry–II

      If you have a question for me, please feel free to ask. I'll do my best to help.

      –Barry–I

      July 29, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
  13. Barry

    To: Bobinator:

    There are essentially two systems of belief: monotheism and polytheism.

    Monotheism is the belief that one omnipotent God made and controls the universe, and polytheism (also known as idolatry and paganism) holds that there are many forces at work in the universe, and it holds that there is no one logic and no one controlling force.

    The Hebrews came to the radical understanding and belief in one omnipotent God, who rules the universe.

    This radical and new understanding, along with its high ethics and standards, is not only the foundation of the Hebrew faith, but it also serves as the essential foundation of the belief system of Christians (who initially were Jews) and the Muslims.
    Subsequently people either embrace monotheistic ethics and standards (viz., the Judeo-Christian system of ethics), or they chart their own course and pursue their own desires, having rejected the high ethical standards of the Bible.

    For this reason you cannot equate any pagan deity or belief system with the God of Abraham. To do so would defies academic scholarship, as well as sound reason.

    July 29, 2011 at 2:01 pm |
    • Civiloutside

      It is entirely fallacious to claim that non-monotheistic societies do not have ethical standards.

      July 29, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
    • Nonimus

      What about non-theism?
      One key aspect about polytheism that, I think, you missed was that these multiple forces are supernatural. Non-theism is the lack of belief in any supernatural forces, singular or plural.

      July 29, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      "having rejected the high ethical standards of the Bible"
      .
      Now this I had to chuckle at. LOL It was christians who spread disease and death across the world. One small example..>The American Indian.

      July 29, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      > To: Bobinator: There are essentially two systems of belief: monotheism and polytheism.

      Agreed.

      > Monotheism is the belief that one omnipotent God made and controls the universe, and polytheism (also known as idolatry and paganism) holds that there are many forces at work in the universe, and it holds that there is no one logic and no one controlling force.

      No, you're wrong. Polytheism can in fact have one supreme God with many other followers. I hate to break it to you, but the holy trinity is a polytheistic concept.

      > The Hebrews came to the radical understanding and belief in one omnipotent God, who rules the universe.

      Which may or may not be true.

      > This radical and new understanding, along with its high ethics and standards, is not only the foundation of the Hebrew faith, but it also serves as the essential foundation of the belief system of Christians (who initially were Jews) and the Muslims.

      I'm sorry, there is no link between high ethics and only worshipping one God. Jainism is far more moral and denies monotheistic principals that you outline.

      > Subsequently people either embrace monotheistic ethics and standards (viz., the Judeo-Christian system of ethics), or they chart their own course and pursue their own desires, having rejected the high ethical standards of the Bible.

      Yeah, those high ethical standards like stoning your children, calling it a sin to wear polyester or to have two types of plant in the same field. Or how about the high standards on how to beat your slave, or how about torturing a man to settle a bet. You've clearly not read the bible or you're a troll/moron.

      > For this reason you cannot equate any pagan deity or belief system with the God of Abraham. To do so would defies academic scholarship, as well as sound reason.

      You have no idea what sound reason is. As demonstrated by your drivel above.

      July 29, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      Maybe SOME of the Hebrews came to believe in monotheism, but :
      1. not ALL were monotheistic, (remember Ashura, ...see the PBS Nova Bible Secrets series, (god had a wife for a while there) and they were NOT the first. There were periods and movements in Egypt which tried to implement monotheism, before the Semites.
      2. Saying they were "monotheistic" does not mean they didn't believe in other dieties. It means they thought they were called to worship only one god, (and not worhip the other gods they thought existed, such as those of theior neighbors, (Baal). In fact the bible is replete with examples where they went off the rails, and worshiped "other" gods, and "god was (became) a "jealous" god.
      😈

      July 29, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Bucky Ball

      Hey bro ! Are you around ? If so, I am interested in your filter program you mentioned. 😀

      If we happen to miss each other, catch me on the flip and remind me, or i'll remind you.

      Peace...

      July 29, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      Peace
      Let me get it ready, I'll post it here in a little while. 😈

      July 29, 2011 at 7:43 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      Dang, it won't post.
      But you can make your own list. In a notepad or gmail "compose" screen. Paste in or or type in the bad words, take OUT the beakup symbols, ('s) and (-s), be sure each word is on a separate line. Save the list. When you copy and paste it into the "find" function under the "edit" screen, they will all be there together. Depending on your browser you may have to click "highlight". Viola, any naughty fragments will be highlighted.
      I'll try to figure out why my list with programming language won't post, but it could take a while. Cheers.
      😈

      July 29, 2011 at 8:14 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      Or......
      When you see LinCA online, ask her for her list. She has a list also, which she has fixed, and that she HAS gotten to post. Just copy it and save it.

      July 29, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
    • LinCA

      The following words or word fragments will get your post censored (list is incomplete):
      arse
      bastard
      bitch
      cock
      coon
      cum
      cunt
      douche
      effing
      fag
      ftw
      fuck
      homo
      horny
      jackass
      jap
      jism
      kooch
      nipple
      orgy
      pis
      porn
      poo
      prick
      rape
      sex
      shit
      slut
      snatch
      spic
      tit
      twat
      vag
      whore
      wtf

      To fix that you can break up the word by putting an extra character in, like consti.tution (breaking the oh so naughty "tit").

      July 29, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      @LinCA
      Thank you ! 🙂

      July 29, 2011 at 9:39 pm |
  14. Up Your Rear Admiral

    Barry, "Your end is coming":

    I'll see you in the rapture capsule with the unicorns. Remember to wear your nose ring -the big steel one that I padlocked the chain onto when we were practicing for the uplifting.

    Prepare yourself for the big yank. May 21 is coming. Remember, Readiness, Steadiness, Deadiness.

    ....Flushhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    July 29, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
  15. Barry

    To: Rear Admiral:

    The vulgarity of the name you chose supports and confirms the comments I made in my previous post.

    What you said about my death, however, is true. My end is coming, as is my reward. I do not fear this.

    And your end is coming, as is your reward.

    Because of Christ’s death, I need not fear death and the grave. You, on the other hand…

    Apparently your understanding of the rapture is infantile and uninformed. I would be glad to explain to you the meaning of the rapture, but your mind is closed.

    Perhaps the words of Koheleth are fitting here:

    “Meaningless! Meaningless!”
    says the Teacher.
    “Utterly meaningless!
    Everything is meaningless.”
    What do people gain from all their labors
    at which they toil under the sun?
    Generations come and generations go,
    but the earth remains forever.
    The sun rises and the sun sets,
    and hurries back to where it rises.
    The wind blows to the south
    and turns to the north;
    round and round it goes,
    ever returning on its course.
    All streams flow into the sea,
    yet the sea is never full.
    To the place the streams come from,
    there they return again.
    All things are wearisome,
    more than one can say.
    The eye never has enough of seeing,
    nor the ear its fill of hearing.
    What has been will be again,
    what has been done will be done again;
    there is nothing new under the sun.
    Is there anything of which one can say,
    “Look! This is something new”?
    It was here already, long ago;
    it was here before our time.
    No one remembers the former generations,
    and even those yet to come
    will not be remembered
    by those who follow them.
    What is crooked cannot be straightened;
    what is lacking cannot be counted.
    I said to myself, “Look, I have increased in wisdom
    more than anyone before me;
    I have experienced much of wisdom and knowledge.”
    Then I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom,
    and also of madness and folly, but I learned that this, too, is a chasing after the wind.
    For with much wisdom comes much sorrow;
    the more knowledge, the more grief.
    ……
    Yet when I surveyed all that my hands had done
    and what I had toiled to achieve,
    everything was meaningless, a chasing after the wind;
    …For a person may labor with wisdom, knowledge and skill,
    and then they must leave all they own to another who has not toiled for it.
    This too is meaningless and a great misfortune.
    What do people get for all the toil and anxious striving with which they labor under the sun?
    All their days their work is grief and pain;
    even at night their minds do not rest. This too is meaningless.

    July 29, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
    • Up Your Rear Admiral

      Barry, "Your end is coming":

      I'll see you in the rapture capsule with the unicorns. Remember to wear your nose ring -the big steel one that I padlocked the chain onto when we were practicing for the uplifting.

      Prepare yourself for the big yank. May 21 is coming. Remember, Readiness, Steadiness, Deadiness.

      ....Flushhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      July 29, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
    • OneOfTheSheep

      I truly wonder why you bother to rise each morning.

      July 29, 2011 at 8:17 pm |
  16. Bonnie

    No one respects me cuz I'm so saggy and my tatoos are fakes.

    July 29, 2011 at 12:44 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      Bonnie take the cross from between your legs out and take your meds.

      July 29, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      Lin said, "Politicians who promote teaching of creationism, who hamper scientific progress, who promote hate and inequality, who promote denial of basic health care and self determination, are at the root of this problem. Unfortunately, these politicians are elected by the same people that have shown to be irrational."
      --------------
      What Bonnie/Adelina's and HeavenbSent's of the world fail to see is the decline can be tracked to when the evangelicals started the grab for power and influence. When we as a country didn't have this obsession with putting jesus as the head of our government, we actually were a strong and respected country. People back then respected other people and kept their religion to themselves. Evangelicals have cause strife and conflict and will continue. They are fear driven and desperate for power. Evangelical types are the real enemy. They make a mockery of freedom and act no different than their ME brothers. They are like a pack of wild pigs frothing at the mouth devouring our rights and freedoms.

      July 29, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
  17. Bonnie

    Americans were respected a lot until decades ago. Today no one approves Americans. This stupid article proves why.

    July 29, 2011 at 12:37 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      Adelina? So Bonnie, tell me do you use your wooden jesus for other burning needs?

      July 29, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Anti-Christian, you already proved you are of a rebrobate mind. Too soddish to know to refrain from gloating?

      Amen

      July 29, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • LinCA

      @Bonnie

      You said "Americans were respected a lot until decades ago. Today no one approves Americans. This stupid article proves why."

      Americans started to lose the respect of the rest of the world with the spread of information. Once people see what Americans were really about, it's hard not to lose respect for them.

      And this article does show, in part, why. A country that is as advanced as the US, yet can't seem to get past prehistoric delusions, is mind-boggling.

      It's not just that a majority of it's people believe that nonsense, but that it is actively promoted as a reasonable basis for government.

      You really can't blame the people as, by the very definition of the IQ scale, half of them have an IQ of less than 100. And an IQ of 100 or less isn't anything to brag about.

      Politicians who promote teaching of creationism, who hamper scientific progress, who promote hate and inequality, who promote denial of basic health care and self determination, are at the root of this problem. Unfortunately, these politicians are elected by the same people that have shown to be irrational.

      July 29, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      HeavenSent

      Anti-Christian, you already proved you are of a rebrobate mind. Too soddish to know to refrain from gloating?

      Amen

      ----
      Hey Adelina's sister from another mother, haven't seen you post in a while. Was wondering if you were raptured?

      July 29, 2011 at 6:12 pm |
  18. Up Your Rear Admiral

    Barry, "Your end is coming":

    I'll see you in the rapture capsule with the unicorns. Remember to wear your nose ring -the big steel one that I padlocked the chain onto when we were practicing for the uplifting.

    Prepare yourself for the big yank. May 21 is coming. Remember, Readiness, Steadiness, Deadiness.

    ....Flushhhhhhhhhhh

    July 29, 2011 at 11:52 am |
  19. Barry

    For people who don’t believe in God, some of you spend an extraordinary amount of time and effort, trying to convince others to accept your belief that there is no God.

    I’m convinced that you’re very religious people, and your religion is the religion of non-belief. And it’s as if you’re missionaries, who are dedicated to the service of stomping out faith, as you spread your gospel of nihilism and hopelessness.

    We who believe in the God of Abraham (Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims) have peace, joy and hope; whereas, your words and cruel comments betray what your religion offers: cynicism, bitterness, cruelty, hatred, pride, arrogance and despair.

    We who believe strive to heal, serve and help; whereas, your goal is clearly to destroy and the precious faith of the believers and to crush the hopes of the righteous. (If I remember correctly, Mark Twain did this very thing to do this to wife, who was a believer. And if I remember correctly, he ultimately regretted his senseless and evil deed.)

    No doubt you atheists have your apostles– Voltaire, Bertrand Russell, Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain), Ernest Hemingway; and, no doubt, your lives will follow the tragic courses of these tragic figures.

    On the other hand, we who believe in and fear the living God (the God of Abraham) will have peace and joy and life.
    Surely you will learn what your great apostles leaned: That the day of stubbornness and arrogance will quickly come to an end. As Hemingway realized, as prepared to take his own life with his hunting rifle (shotgun), the life he chose wasn’t worth living.

    Life is short, it will pass very quickly, and the grave awaits each of us. You can try to ignore this, but that’s not going to change. Even your apostles learned this. Remember Voltaire’s last hours on his death bed. Consider the words he spoke in the last hours of his life.

    After all, he is your apostle.

    Your end is coming, and it is coming rapidly. For some of you, the end may be coming more

    July 29, 2011 at 11:45 am |
    • Up Your Rear Admiral

      Barry, "Your end is coming":

      I'll see you in the rapture capsule with the unicorns. Remember to wear your nose ring -the big steel one that I padlocked the chain onto when we were practicing for the uplifting.

      Prepare yourself for the big yank. May 21 is coming. Remember, Readiness, Steadiness, Deadiness.

      ....Flushhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      July 29, 2011 at 11:52 am |
    • The Bobinator

      For people who don’t believe in Shiva, some of you spend an extraordinary amount of time and effort, trying to convince others to accept your belief that there is no Shiva.

      I’m convinced that you’re very religious people, and your religion is the religion of non-belief. And it’s as if you’re missionaries, who are dedicated to the service of stomping out faith, as you spread your gospel of disbelief and hopelessness.

      We who believe in Shiva (Hindus) have peace, joy and hope; whereas, your words and cruel comments betray what your religion offers: cynicism, bitterness, cruelty, hatred, pride, arrogance and despair.

      We who believe strive to heal, serve and help; whereas, your goal is clearly to destroy and the precious faith of the believers and to crush the hopes of the righteous. (If I remember correctly, Mark Twain did this very thing to do this to wife, who was a believer. And if I remember correctly, he ultimately regretted his senseless and evil deed.)

      No doubt you atheists have your apostles– Voltaire, Bertrand Russell, Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain), Ernest Hemingway; and, no doubt, your lives will follow the tragic courses of these tragic figures.

      On the other hand, we who believe in and fear the living Shiva will have peace and joy and life.
      Surely you will learn what your great apostles leaned: That the day of stubbornness and arrogance will quickly come to an end. As Hemingway realized, as prepared to take his own life with his hunting rifle (shotgun), the life he chose wasn’t worth living.

      Life is short, it will pass very quickly, and the grave awaits each of us. You can try to ignore this, but that’s not going to change. Even your apostles learned this. Remember Voltaire’s last hours on his death bed. Consider the words he spoke in the last hours of his life.

      After all, he is your apostle.

      Your end is coming, and it is coming rapidly. For some of you, the end may be coming more

      July 29, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      Given that I've shown you that your position is easily swappable with a different faith, I'll go ahead and dismantle your moronic post.

      > For people who don’t believe in God, some of you spend an extraordinary amount of time and effort, trying to convince others to accept your belief that there is no God.

      Yes we do. Because we're tired of having to live in a world where people make stupid decisions based on the writings of illiterate sheep herders and primitive men. We're tired of having to listen to people tell us what we have to do or not to do based on what they believe instead of well reasoned and intelligent points.

      > I’m convinced that you’re very religious people, and your religion is the religion of non-belief.

      You're also convinced there is a invisible sky daddy who watches you and loves you and will save you from death. I question your reasoning capabilities.

      > And it’s as if you’re missionaries, who are dedicated to the service of stomping out faith, as you spread your gospel of nihilism and hopelessness.

      In a way yes. My goal is to stomp out your nonsense. Because it's people like you who deny rights to people, it's people like you who seek to prevent the progression of science and it's people like you who seek to destroy already established and proven knowledge. All because of what you believe.

      > We who believe in the God of Abraham (Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims) have peace, joy and hope; whereas, your words and cruel comments betray what your religion offers: cynicism, bitterness, cruelty, hatred, pride, arrogance and despair.

      You live your life accepting something that hasn't been shown to be true. You're no better then a child believeing in Santa Claus. When you become an intellectual adult you can then comment on the overall emotional state of other adults.

      > We who believe strive to heal, serve and help; whereas, your goal is clearly to destroy and the precious faith of the believers and to crush the hopes of the righteous. (If I remember correctly, Mark Twain did this very thing to do this to wife, who was a believer. And if I remember correctly, he ultimately regretted his senseless and evil deed.)\

      My goal is to have you think. My goal is to have you wake the hell up from the nonsense you've been indoctrinated with.

      > No doubt you atheists have your apostles– Voltaire, Bertrand Russell, Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain), Ernest Hemingway; and, no doubt, your lives will follow the tragic courses of these tragic figures.

      This is where you try to rationalize that we're the same as you. We're not. We accept good ideas regardless of the source and we do not accept everything "our apostles" say. Whereas you do. The difference between us and you is that you accept anything you're fed from the bible. We question everything, regardless of source. The reason for this is because we have the goal of "Holding as many true concepts as possible." You on the ohter hand "Want to believe what ever feels good."

      > On the other hand, we who believe in and fear the living God (the God of Abraham) will have peace and joy and life.

      By deluding yourselves. Joy and peace isn't worth anything if it's not real. Only children take to concepts that make them feel good.

      > Surely you will learn what your great apostles leaned: That the day of stubbornness and arrogance will quickly come to an end. As Hemingway realized, as prepared to take his own life with his hunting rifle (shotgun), the life he chose wasn’t worth living.

      And? So what if hemingway took his own life. I doubt you can intelligently comment on the reasons behind this. I doubt anyone can. And even if it was because of his "lack substance because of God", why isn't this the case for other atheists. See, that's what we call rational thinking. I can take your arguments and show how they're moronic.

      > Life is short, it will pass very quickly, and the grave awaits each of us.

      Yes, yes it does.

      > You can try to ignore this, but that’s not going to change.

      We face the concept of death sir. You choose to ignore it by placing a God that will protect you and give you life afterwards. What you accuse us of, you're actually doing. Hilarious.

      > Even your apostles learned this. Remember Voltaire’s last hours on his death bed. Consider the words he spoke in the last hours of his life.

      Yes, we should consider the words of someone who's in fear of his life and quite possibly delerious. You're hilarious sir.

      See, this is the problem with apologists like yourself. You try to appeal to emotion, which is the absolute worst way to make reasonable decisions. Logic wins out as I've shown you in my dissection and trouncing of your nonsense.

      The reality is that with 100,000+ religions that exist or have existed in this world, even if a God did exist, it clearly doesn't care to give us guidelines or instruction. If God did, it would have given us undenyable proof. Not discussions to peasants via burning bush.

      The bible is a joke. You are simply blinded by your own bias to see it.

      After all, he is your apostle.

      Your end is coming, and it is coming rapidly. For some of you, the end may be coming more

      July 29, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • frank

      Total pwnage.

      July 29, 2011 at 6:20 pm |
    • OneOfTheSheep

      Barry said: "we who believe in and fear the living God (the God of Abraham) will have peace and joy and life."

      Can you further explain the "joy" left to one whose "peace" is that of a serf living in life-long fear of a historically short-tempered and violent deity that is forever aware of one's every move and thought? Even if you get through this life in his good graces, who's to say that will eternally be so? A toy has no rights, ever. I just don't see anything here of the slightest interest.

      Look around you. Open your eyes. Man has sequenced the human genome. If we don't blow ourselves up or otherwise make our planet too toxic for life (before we advance into the solar system and then to the stars), the first humans to live to be 1000 have already been born.

      Our ability to question and discover, share and build upon that knowledge even today is on a curve ever ascending.
      According to the Bible, the story of the Tower of Bable relates what happened the last time man was making great progress. Our ladder was kicked out from under us. That'll teach em ;<)

      When a child learns faster than expected, any parent that punishes that child is abusive. But that's an enlightened, modern concept. The society and capability of man has clearly progressed over the last two thousand years. The Bible is a hopelessly archaic "one size fits all" tome.

      When the Allies executed convicted Nazi war criminals after rejecting their "we were just following orders" defense, man demonstrated a new maturity. We are now and forever more culpable when we act contrary to the accepted morals of today. If this requires questioning and even refusing the orders of our "superiors", so be it. Two thousand years ago, such thinking was heresy or treason.

      Today we dare not follow a "superior", be they called Hitler, Satan or God, blindly. Conscience needs no name and right has become "self evident". In this light we are remiss if we are Muslim and do not question Muhammad as described in the Koran or Christian and do not question the God of Abraham as described in the Bible where action or inaction thus set forth would today be deemed unjust.

      A deity that truly loved man and wanted the best for him would see maturity in this and not undue pride. If man is not more than the ever tail-wagging finger licking dog that would eat the meat of a child if his owner killed one and offered it, his existence is without meaning.

      If you would make God laugh, tell him your dreams ;<)

      July 29, 2011 at 10:19 pm |
  20. Richard S Kaiser

    Firstly, There are ONLY 3 God-heads.

    1=GOD
    2=Gods
    3=gods

    Firstly, GOD is the embodiment of all things creatively established as being ALL CREATION, Secondly, the Gods and yes, even the Goddesses are the First Fruitioning Partakers of Creating things relevent and gave to GOD a Body with which to these very moments is in a constant state of flux, Thirdly, We Human Omnivores are AS gods and goddesses where upon our deathbed we enter into the Kingdom of our embodied depths and stand before unknown to us God where we are adjudicated to take on a Life within our deadened body until such a Time when GOD will take apart our Bodily Kingdom be it by Cremation or in the Graves by slowed consumption. Christ Jesus' Kingdom was moved into Plant Life and His constantly nourishing us via our baking of all forms of Bread; (all things of Plant Based ergo Breadliness) and His Blood the alcohol in the "Spirited" volumes of druggeries is what makes the world go round about SPiritually Speaking Of Course!

    July 29, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • SeanNJ

      Did you read this before you posted it? And it still made sense to you?

      July 29, 2011 at 11:11 am |
    • NOo..oON

      "Kingdom of our embodied depths"

      Spiritual proctology?

      July 29, 2011 at 11:36 am |
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