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August 13th, 2011
01:00 AM ET

U.S. Muslim comedy tour hits Deep South

By Summer Suleiman, CNN

(CNN) - The Muslims are Coming is a comedy tour that is traveling to small towns throughout the South in hopes of opening up a discussion about Muslim stereotypes.

The tour started in Gainesville, Florida, home of Terry Jones, the pastor who attracted international headlines by burning a Quran, and stopped in Lawrenceville, Georgia, outside Atlanta, on Tuesday night. It will continue to Alabama and conclude in Tennessee.

The shows feature comedians Dean Obeidallah, Negin Farsad, Maysoon Zayid and Omar Elba. They are targeting small, conservative towns in the South where controversies over Islam have erupted.

“We came to the South because it has this reputation of being intolerant. It has this stereotype of hating other groups, so we wanted to see,” Farsad said. “We have a feeling that they’re not actually uniformly sitting around hating Muslims.”

Obeidallah, who performed with the recent Axis of Evil comedy tour, and Farsad, producer of the 2008 movie Nerdcore Rising, are producing a documentary about The Muslims are Coming. The shows on the tour are free, they say, because they want to reach as many people as possible.

“We really wanted to make this tour a chance to reach out American to American, people of different faiths coming together, laughing together,” Obeidallah said.

He hopes the tour will start a candid dialogue about Muslim stereotypes - and that it will simply make people laugh.

And laugh they did, at least on Tuesday.

The Lawrenceville audience was receptive to the performance, even when it veered into sensitive territory. At one point, for instance, Zayid joked about meeting her husband in a Gaza refugee camp and telling him to “pack up his tent”.

The shows also feature a question and answer portion with the audience.

In Lawrenceville, many of the questions gave voice to stereotypes. “Is it true if a group of women get naked, that Muslim men must kill themselves?” one audience member inquired.

“We want to answer the tough questions, we encourage people to ask the tough questions, talk about the stereotypes that are lingering in your mind,” Obeidallah said.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Interfaith issues • Islam

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  1. vintage chanel

    Hello, all the time i used to check weblog posts here in the early hours in the morning, because i like to find out more and more.
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    October 24, 2012 at 9:45 am |
  2. szitod

    82UAN2 oinkadmepeax

    May 19, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
  3. Akiye

    There are dozens of links and web sites with viodes and articles about Obama and his Islamic ideologies. WHY he still insists on trying to avoid this truth, is beyond me. Obama OBVIOUSLY had to deny it at the start of his campaign, because a Muslim would have had NO chance of coming in anything but last.His defenders will still claim there is NOTHING to prove this, but I for one am tired of providing more proof he IS, than they can produce he's a christian of protestant or whatever he claims these days.

    May 19, 2012 at 2:31 am |
  4. thesouthwillblogagain

    I'm not sure if there have been a lot of replies here from Southerners, so I'll go.

    It's interesting that they began the tour in Gainesville, FL. I get that it was the town where the pastor that burned the Quran was from. Still it's home to the University of Florida, so I doubt a Muslim-American comedy tour would be the least bit controversial. Same as if they started in Athens, GA or Baton Rouge, LA.

    On the one hand the article and many people here are talking about Muslim stereotypes, but we have failed to mention the Southern stereotypes embedded in the article.

    A lot has changed down here in the last fifty years. For one thing the region is less poor (and in some states wealthier) than it had been. People are no longer as isolated, education and especially higher education levels are much higher, and so forth. There are large pockets of Indians/Pakistanis throughout the region too (including two elected governors). Many are Hindu, some Sikh, some Muslim, and some Christian converts. There are large numbers of Vietnamese southerners in Louisiana and Texas. There have been larger numbers of Jewish Southerners in places like Richmond, New Orleans, and Charleston for centuries. North Carolina is now over 10 % Mexican. Heck, even you "foreigners" from up North make up a large part of the population.

    I'm not ignorant of the situation. I'm aware that inclusion of others is still a hard sell in the more rural communities. So these guys coming to town and being willing to take any questions is a good idea. I'm thinking maybe some Southerners should go up to New York or Chicago or Los Angeles and do the same (and not those pseudo Southern Blue Collar Comedy guys). In any case if the tour is funny, and the folks participating genuine, I'm 100% certain they'll have a good time down here. And, maybe they'll learn something about us too.

    Southern Blogger

    September 22, 2011 at 11:32 am |
  5. Hesalive

    Satan loves a religion that denies the divinity of Christ.

    August 29, 2011 at 10:28 am |
  6. owen

    Reminds me of the Canadian hit TV program of several seasons running, Little Mosque on the Prarie. Great show, funny, funny, funny. Great show. A sitcom about a Mosque located in the rented parish hall of the town's Anglican church, rented under the pretense that it would be used for a business. A great show. Sure beats all the reality crap we have to put up with. The Canadians have a way with comedy.

    August 25, 2011 at 10:02 am |
  7. Muneef

    Sobhan-Allah.

    Wouldn't the investment in those African immigrated countries to create jobs and a better status of living for their people would have contributed to stopping such suicidal migration through deserts and rough seas ?
    Rather than holding them,returning them or drowning them if not allowing them to drown...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00n6x4f  

    August 19, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
  8. Muneef

    The Mercy of Allah in Regard to Forgiveness
    Quote;
    "O son of Adam, as long as you call upon Me and put your hope in Me, I have forgiven you for what you have done and I do not mind. O son of Adam, if your sins were to reach the clouds of the sky and then you would seek My forgiveness, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, if you were to come to Me with sins that are close to filling the earth and then you would meet Me without ascribing any partners with Me, I would certainly bring to you forgiveness close to filling it." 

    There was a sect called Khawaarij, who worshipped Allah only in fear and held the belief that anyone who commits major sins was a disbeliever and would be thrown into the Hellfire forever. This is a gross extremism and straying from the correct path. 

    Yet, another sect, which emerged within the first century of Islam, had no fear and believed that sins did not affect ones faith and that as long as one believed and testified in Islam, he would enter Paradise regardless of his actions. Both of these extremes lead to a dangerous consequence. 
    Unquote;
    Guess you have those same in your faiths "Christians"....

    http://quranicverse99.tripod.com/islamicways/id4.html

    August 19, 2011 at 2:13 pm |
  9. Muneef

    Sobhan-Allah.
    Some countries such as Somalia are not finding essential foods to eat and survive the Famine and Drought while others pouring Fruits and Vegetables  on the streets as if unwanted or unneeded Rubbish rather than thanking GOD for his Blessings of their Prosperity;

    Angry French farmers raid Spanish fruit trucks
    12/08 13:34 CET
    Furious French farmers have attacked Spanish fruit and vegetable deliveries as effects of the E.coli crisis continue to bite.

    http://www.euronews.net/2011/08/12/angry-french-farmers-raid-spanish-fruit-trucks/

    August 18, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
  10. Muneef

    Sobhan-Allah..

    They ask;
    What is the only animal that can't look up at the sky?
    Or ask; Why pigs can't look up in the sky?

    Wow no wonder it is d-i-sliked by all heavenly religions..! No wonder that upon Jesus resurrection it is told that the first thing he will do will be the killing of all Pigs...!

    Guess out of all Human's and Jinn's Beings who are of that kind not looking up to the skies of heavens will be facing a very heavy torment here and there...!
    But never they learn,taking it for a fairy tales and a joke, no recognition of the signs that are loud and clear...!
    Peace.

    August 18, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
  11. Ali

    to know more about islam :
    http://www.faithfreedom.org

    August 18, 2011 at 6:52 am |
  12. Muneef

    1-  What is the Wisdom of Islam?

    Islam is a very simple Religion.  Islam simply means submitting yourself in peace to the Absolute One and Living GOD:

    "Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.  (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"

    "Then Praise be to Allah, Lord of the heavens and Lord of the earth- Lord and Cherisher of all the worlds!  To Him be Glory throughout the heavens and the earth: and He is Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom!.  (The Noble Quran, 45:36-37)" 

    "Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)!   Come to common terms as between us and you:  That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.'  If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).'  (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"

    The GOD of Islam is the GOD of everything He created.  There is no middle man between the Creation and the Creator; "It was We Who Created man, and We know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him:  for We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein.  (The Noble Quran, 50:16)"

    "When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way.   (The Noble Quran, 2:186)"

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
    -----

    Everything from good and bad that happens to us is determined by Allah Almighty:

    Sometimes a Muslim wonders and says to him/herself:  "How come I am a devoted Servant to Allah Almighty, I do everything that pleased Him, I do all of the things that He commands me, and I still suffer in life?"

    These are fair questions.  It is important for every Muslim to know that Allah Almighty determines everything for us for a Wisdom and reasons only Him the Almighty knows:

    "Say: 'Nothing will happen to us except what God has decreed for us: He is our protector': and on God let the Believers put their trust.  (The Noble Quran, 9:51)"

    "Say: 'I have no power Over any harm or profit To myself except as Allah Willeth.  To every People Is a term appointed: When their term is reached, Not an hour can they cause Delay, nor (an hour) can they Advance (it in anticipation).'  (The Noble Quran, 10:49)"

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/everything_from_allah.htm

    ---

    Scientific facts about day of resurrection
     
    In this research we are going to make a scientific analysis for many events in day of resurrection to prove that the Qur'an doesn’t contradict with science and the scientific realities …
    http://www.kaheel7.com/eng/index.php/unseen-miracles/405-scientific-facts-about-day-of-resurrection

    August 18, 2011 at 12:48 am |
  13. Muneef

    Found very interesting...
    I recommend Muslims and Non Muslims to read;
    The first words of the Quran to Mankind was is to Read,
    Read It Please – It will not even take 2 mins.. it is your life.. it is you;

    A clever person is the one who will question his existence, for we are not here to just enjoy.  He searches for answers and  then finally  he does what is better for him in the future. This world is the testing for the  hereafter. Where we have to permanently stay.  Our deeds & sins will come before us. 
    Kindly open link;
    http://islamworld.webs.com/islamthestoryoflife.htm

    August 17, 2011 at 11:48 pm |
  14. elizabeth frey

    all we need is love...jon,why did u leave us...

    August 17, 2011 at 3:12 am |
  15. Mr Ali

    I know that these adjectives I use hurt Muslims and many have told me to tone down and not use words that may turn Muslims away. I wish I could do it but I can’t. If one wants to tell the truth one must not be politically correct. That is the reality that everyone, Muslims and non-Muslims must deal with it.

    I agree that the Islam Muslims believe and practice is not the same Islam of Muhammad. Muslims all over the world, not just in the west project their own idealistic views in Islam. The truth is that Muhammad was not that holy man Muslims think he was.

    That is the difference between Islam and other faiths. You may find all faiths are logically wrong, but there is also some good in their teachings. There is nothing good in Islam. The only good you find in Islam is in the aspiration and thinking of the believers. That goodness is part of the human nature shared by all the people. But when these good people become influenced by Islam they are transformed into terrorists and murderers.

    Now that you found the truth, tell others. Truth will set the world free. Muslims’ faith is strong. But that is zealotry. No one wants to live in a lie. Once the truth is known Islam will be demolished and Muslims will be set free.

    Truth is out. Now all is left to do is spread it. If each Muslim who learns the truth spreads it to others, in no time Islam will become history.

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/apostates-of-islam/islam-was-nothing-like-what-i-thought/

    August 17, 2011 at 12:13 am |
  16. Damien

    @Reality

    I should have been more specific. I said "Christianity has been responsible for more death and destruction in the name of their belief than any other group in history". What I should have said, to be extremely precise was "Christianity has been responsible for more death and destruction in the name of their (religious) belief than any other (religious) group in history. Maybe not in one single war, but in total.
    Because I'm lazy:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll

    August 16, 2011 at 10:34 am |
    • Ted Ward

      Don't forget to include the christian eradication of the black african islamic slave trade and how many millions of lives that has saved, oh yes, and then there's the entire practice of modern medicine and the billions of people alive today as a result, oh and yes, electricity, computers, powered flight, refrigeration, the free press, the very ideas of personal rights and freedom...do I need to continue? Oh, yes and the practice of actually recording history, the good and the bad so that the bad will hopefully not be repeated, and the bad and shameful can be identified as such...all from christian nations....shall I contijue...?

      August 16, 2011 at 12:36 pm |
    • Reality

      One more time because I am not lazy:

      The Twenty (or so) Worst Things People Have Done to Each Other:----–

      http://necrometrics.com/warstatz.htm#u (required reading)

      The Muslim Conquest of India

      "The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      Rank <<<Death Toll <Cause <<Centuries<<<Religions/Groups involved*

      1. 63 million Second World War 20C (Christians et al and Communists/atheists vs. Christians et al, Nazi-Pagan and "Shintoists")

      2. 40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine) 20C (Communism)

      3. 40 million Genghis Khan 13C (Shamanism or Tengriism)

      4. 27 million British India (mostly famine) 19C (Anglican)

      5. 25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C (Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Chinese folk religion)

      6. 20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C ( Confucianism, Buddhism and Chinese folk religion vs. a form of Christianity)

      7. 20 million Joseph Stalin 20C (Communism)

      8. 19 million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C (Islam)

      9. 17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C

      10. 16 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C (Christianity)

      11. 15 million First World War 20C (Christians vs. Christians)

      12. 15 million Conquest of the Americas 15C-19C (Christians vs. Pagans)

      13. 13 million Muslim Conquest of India 11C-18C

      14. 10 million An Lushan Revolt 8C

      15. 10 million Xin Dynasty 1C

      16. 9 million Russian Civil War 20C (Christians vs Communists)

      17. 8 million Fall of Rome 5C (Pagans vs. Pagans)

      18. 8 million Congo Free State 19C-20C (Christians)

      19. 7½ million Thirty Years War 17C (Christians vs Christians)

      20. 7½ million Fall of the Yuan Dynasty 14C

      *:" Is religion responsible for more violent deaths than any other cause?

      A: No, of course not – unless you define religion so broadly as to be meaningless. Just take the four deadliest events of the 20th Century – Two World Wars, Red China and the Soviet Union – no religious motivation there, unless you consider every belief system to be a religion."

      Q: So, what you're saying is that religion has never killed anyone.

      A: Arrgh... You all-or-nothing people drive me crazy. There are many doc-umented examples where members of one religion try to exterminate the members of another religion. Causation is always complex, but if the only difference between two warring groups is religion, then that certainly sounds like a religious conflict to me. Is it the number one cause of mass homicide in human history? No. Of the 22 worst episodes of mass killing, maybe four were primarily religious. Is that a lot? Well, it's more than the number of wars fought over soccer, or s-ex (The Trojan and Sabine Wars don't even make the list.), but less than the number fought over land, money, glory or prestige.

      In my Index, I list 41 religious conflicts compared with 27 oppressions under "Communism", 24 under Colonialism, 2 under "Railroads" and 2 under "Scapegoats". Make of that what you will."

      August 16, 2011 at 6:29 pm |
    • Abdullah Bakar

      Simply answer: The bibles never lead someone to kill. Bibles reject killing infidels and convert by force.
      Koran lead mujahedeen terrorist to kill. Koran permit muslim to kill infidels must force converting into islam.

      August 16, 2011 at 10:27 pm |
    • Muneef

      Evidence from the English translation of Luke 6:40 that further prove that the word 'Muslim' was used by Jesus:

      Let us look at Luke 6:40 from my N.I.V. Bible "A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher."

      Luke 6:40 (KJV)
      40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

      Luke 6:40 (Darby)
      40 The disciple is not above his teacher, but every one that is perfected shall be as his teacher.

      Luke 6:40 (Young's Literal Translation)
      40 A disciple is not above his teacher, but every one perfected shall be as his teacher.

      Luke 6:40 (21st Century King James Version)
      40 The disciple is not above his master, but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

      Luke 6:40 (American Standard Version)
      40 The disciple is not above his teacher: but every one when he is perfected shall be as his teacher.

      The perfection here means a spiritual one.  What the verse is saying is that knowledge is not what matters!  The teacher or master is higher in knowledge than his student.  But the student can be as high as his teacher, or even higher, by being a true 'MUSHLAM' or Muslim, a spiritually perfect and well-disciplined person!
      http://www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm

      August 17, 2011 at 11:47 pm |
  17. Jen

    David Koresh was not a Muslim. Timothy McVeigh was not a Muslim. Eric Robert Rudolph was not a Muslim. The Unabomber was not a Muslim. David McMenemy was not a Muslim. Paul Ross Evans was not a Muslim. If we want to see the face of terror in America, we can look at a mirror, not at a Muslim. That said, I'm glad to see this tour is in progress. The sheer number of hateful comments on this site shows how desperately it is needed.

    August 16, 2011 at 7:56 am |
    • Abdullah Bakar

      Ayatollah is not atheist. Osamah is not atheist. Al fikri is not communist. Achmad is not Christian, and so on. But they blew up them self in some church in Mideast. Some blew up the tourist in Bali bombing.

      August 16, 2011 at 10:24 pm |
  18. Doggy Little Dog

    "He hopes the tour will start a candid dialogue about Muslim stereotypes – and that it will simply make people laugh."

    This makes me laugh a lot enough.

    August 16, 2011 at 6:54 am |
  19. Reality

    From p. 18, in case you missed it:

    Why the topic group should not be invited to your town====================

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror? The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed.

    Then we can talk about "peaceful Islam" and the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

    August 16, 2011 at 12:26 am |
    • Muneef

      Well dream as like but until you find that what you dream of done in all religions or to those non religious then only can come to Islam to find who you should trust or not to trust....! Or are those only in Islam ?? While everybody else can be trusted.

      August 16, 2011 at 1:40 am |
    • Reality

      Only for the those interested in a religious update:

      1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

      “New Torah For Modern Minds

      Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “

      2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

      The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

      earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

      For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

      Current RCC problems:

      Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

      3., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

      Current problems:
      Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

      3. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      5. Hinduism (from an online Hindu site) – "Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centered and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’."

      The caste/laborer system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence are problems when saying a fair and rational God founded Hinduism."

      Current crises:

      The caste system and cow worship/reverence.

      6. Buddhism- "Buddhism began in India about 500 years before the birth of Christ. The people living at that time had become disillusioned with certain beliefs of Hinduism including the caste system, which had grown extremely complex. The number of outcasts (those who did not belong to any particular caste) was continuing to grow."

      "However, in Buddhism, like so many other religions, fanciful stories arose concerning events in the life of the founder, Siddhartha Gautama (fifth century B.C.):"

      Archaeological discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart from the legends we know very little about the circu-mstances of his life. e.g. Buddha by one legend was supposedly talking when he came out of his mother's womb.

      Bottom line: There are many good ways of living but be aware of the hallucinations, embellishments, lies, and myths surrounding the founders and foundations of said rules of life.

      Then, apply the Five F rule: "First Find the Flaws, then Fix the Foundations". And finally there will be religious peace and religious awareness in the world!!!!!

      August 16, 2011 at 7:51 am |
    • Damien

      God damn you talk too much. Actions speak louder than words. Christianity has been responsible for more death and destruction in the name of their belief than any other group in history. If you put the same effort into looking into your own belief as you do into hating others, you might find you're not so different in the end.

      However, seeing as you managed to post without using all caps and actually spelled things right, you're clearly trolling. 😉

      August 16, 2011 at 9:54 am |
    • Reality

      The Twenty (or so) Worst Things People Have Done to Each Other:--------------

      http://necrometrics.com/warstatz.htm#u (required reading)

      The Muslim Conquest of India

      "The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      Rank <<<Death Toll <Cause <<Centuries<<<Religions/Groups involved*

      1. 63 million Second World War 20C (Christians et al and Communists/atheists vs. Christians et al, Nazi-Pagan and "Shintoists")

      2. 40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine) 20C (Communism)

      3. 40 million Genghis Khan 13C (Shamanism or Tengriism)

      4. 27 million British India (mostly famine) 19C (Anglican)

      5. 25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C (Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Chinese folk religion)

      6. 20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C ( Confucianism, Buddhism and Chinese folk religion vs. a form of Christianity)

      7. 20 million Joseph Stalin 20C (Communism)

      8. 19 million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C (Islam)

      9. 17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C

      10. 16 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C (Christianity)

      11. 15 million First World War 20C (Christians vs. Christians)

      12. 15 million Conquest of the Americas 15C-19C (Christians vs. Pagans)

      13. 13 million Muslim Conquest of India 11C-18C

      14. 10 million An Lushan Revolt 8C

      15. 10 million Xin Dynasty 1C

      16. 9 million Russian Civil War 20C (Christians vs Communists)

      17. 8 million Fall of Rome 5C (Pagans vs. Pagans)

      18. 8 million Congo Free State 19C-20C (Christians)

      19. 7½ million Thirty Years War 17C (Christians vs Christians)

      20. 7½ million Fall of the Yuan Dynasty 14C

      *:" Is religion responsible for more violent deaths than any other cause?

      A: No, of course not – unless you define religion so broadly as to be meaningless. Just take the four deadliest events of the 20th Century – Two World Wars, Red China and the Soviet Union – no religious motivation there, unless you consider every belief system to be a religion."

      Q: So, what you're saying is that religion has never killed anyone.

      A: Arrgh... You all-or-nothing people drive me crazy. There are many doc-umented examples where members of one religion try to exterminate the members of another religion. Causation is always complex, but if the only difference between two warring groups is religion, then that certainly sounds like a religious conflict to me. Is it the number one cause of mass homicide in human history? No. Of the 22 worst episodes of mass killing, maybe four were primarily religious. Is that a lot? Well, it's more than the number of wars fought over soccer, or s-ex (The Trojan and Sabine Wars don't even make the list.), but less than the number fought over land, money, glory or prestige.

      In my Index, I list 41 religious conflicts compared with 27 oppressions under "Communism", 24 under Colonialism, 2 under "Railroads" and 2 under "Scapegoats". Make of that what you will."

      August 16, 2011 at 10:20 am |
  20. Muneef

    Rob
    If Muslims are so miserable here then they can all go back to where they came from. Problem solved. Then they can kill animals however they please as well as each other like they are so fond of doing. And to you "American" Muslims who will be so quick to point out that you are American. You can also join them In'Shallah
    August 14, 2011 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse | Reply

    Rob
    Muneef, keep deluding yourself into believing that. I and 99.99% of the US population would never, ever want to be a dirty, smelly Muslim that cant even wear deoderant. So keep trying to destroy Israel its a much smaller target because you will NEVER rule this country
    August 15, 2011 at 12:00 am | Report abuse |

    Wow isn't those comments by Rob similar to the one's below;

    ""Jayalalitha, who goes by one name, demanded an apology from Chao in a letter to the US Consulate's Consul General Jennifer McIntyre.

    "This remark which smacks of racism is highly condemnable. You will agree that this remark of the vice-consul is an affront to all Tamils," Jayalalitha said.

    The Communist Party of India demanded the withdrawal of Chao for her "racist" comments and asked the government to lodge a "strong protest" with the United States.

    "The remarks show the racist nature of the official even during Barack Obama's presidency. This cannot be tolerated," party national secretary D. Raja said.""
    http://www.emirates247.com/news/world/us-diplomat-s-dirty-like-tamilians-comment-sparks-indian-racism-row-2011-08-14-1.413002

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    August 16, 2011 at 12:11 am |
    • Muneef

      My comments;

      Muneef
      @Rob.

      Haha...my GOD what are you saying....? Can't wear deodorant ? Who said that? Smelly? Strange really since our religion Islam informs about being pleasant smelling and dressing....
      We have Muslims who you will smell what we call "Odahh" some sort of sandal wood from which perfume oils are extracted used as perfume or be used as perfume smoke to smoke rooms and house.... Can't imagine whom do you call Muslims smelly Muslims...? Those must be poor Muslims who can not afford to live in that way while living in crowded groups...!
      Another thing about smelly is that depending on the foods the consume....say some would smell of Herbs&Sp-i-ces that they consume within their foods in addition to garlics,onions...some do smell like a sp-I-ce shops but that is not conditionally Muslims but rather say Asians whom foods is of the richest in such "Herbs&Hotsp-I-ces".
      August 15, 2011 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |

      Muneef
      @Rob.

      Muslims throughout the world have extremely high standards of personal hygiene, because Islam places great emphasis on both physical and spiritual, cleanliness and purification.  While humankind in general usually considers cleanliness to be a pleasing attribute, Islam insists on it.  Muslims are required to take care of their personal hygiene by assuring that they are well groomed, and that their bodies, clothing, and surroundings are clean.  Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, informed his companions and thus all of us, about the importance of cleanliness when he said, “cleanliness is half of faith.”[1]  The Quran is more specific and says,

      “Truly, God loves those who turn unto Him in repentance and loves those who purify themselves.” (Quran 2:222)
      http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2149/
      August 15, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |

      August 16, 2011 at 12:20 am |
    • Reality

      o Even farting is "controlled" in Islam:

      To wit:

      (function() { var scribd = document.createElement("script"); scribd.type = "text/javascript"; scribd.async = true; scribd.src = "#{root_url}javascripts/embed_code/inject.js"; var s = document.getElementsByTagName("script")[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(scribd, s); })()

      "Farting is problematic in Islam. During prayer, a worshipper must not fart. Sahih Bukhari (1.4.137) writes that Allah will not accept a Muslim's prayer if he/she passes wind during the ritual.

      The exception occurs if the worshipper farts silently, or the fart does not smell. In such a case, he/she may continue with the prayer (ibid, 1.4.139).Sunaan Nasai (1.162) writes that if you fart during a prayer you must redo ablution. Sahih Bukhari (9.86.86) says that for a "farter" Allah will not accept his/her prayer until he/she performs another ablution."

      August 16, 2011 at 10:23 am |
    • Reality

      From Sir Salman Rushdie's book "Satanic Verses", p. 376, paperback issue – for those 1 billion Muslims to read as they are forbidden to purchase or read said book:

      One of the passages that prompted the crazy Ayatollah Khomeini to issue a fatwa against Sir Rushdie:

      Mahound = Mohammed
      Gibreel = Gabriel

      "The faithful lived by lawlessness, but in those years Mahound – or should one say the Archangel Gibreel? – should one say Al-Lah? – became obsessed by law.

      Amid the palm-trees of the oasis Gibreel appeared to the Prophet and found himself spouting rules, rules, rules, until the faithful could scarcely bear the prospect of any more revelation, Salman said, rules about every da-mn thing, if a man farts let him turn his face to the wind, a rule about which hand to use for the purpose of cleaning one's behind.

      It was as if no aspect of human existence was to be left unregulated, free. The revelation – the recitation- told the faithful how much to eat, how deeply they should sleep, and which se-xual positions had received divine sanction, so that they leamed that so-domy and the missionary position were approved of by the archangel, whereas the forbidden postures included all those in which the female was on top.

      Gibreel further listed the permitted and forbidden subjects of conversation, and earmarked the parts of the body which could not be scratched no matter how unbearably they might itch.

      He vetoed the consumption of prawns, those bizarre other-worldly creatures which no member of the faithful had ever seen, and required animals to be killed slowly, by bleeding, so that by experiencing their deaths to the full they might arrive at an understanding of the meaning of their lives, for it is only at the moment of death that living creatures understand that life has been real, and not a sort of dream.

      And Gibreel the archangel specified the manner in which a man should be buried, and how his property should be divided, so that Salman the Persian got to wondering what manner of God this was that sounded so much like a businessman.

      This was when he had the idea that destroyed his faith, because he recalled that of course Mahound himself had been a businessman, and a damned successful one at that, a person to whom organization and rules came naturally, so how excessively convenient it was that he should have come up with such a very businesslike archangel, who handed down the management decisions of this highly corporate, if noncorporeal, God."

      August 16, 2011 at 10:25 am |
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