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Church posts names of Boston clergy accused of child sex abuse
Cardinal Sean O'Malley made public the names of 159 clerics accused of child abuse.
August 25th, 2011
09:10 PM ET

Church posts names of Boston clergy accused of child sex abuse

By Tom Cohen, CNN

(CNN) -
A total of 250 clerics in the Boston Archdiocese have been accused of child abuse in recent decades, according to information made public Thursday by Cardinal Sean O'Malley in an attempt to help resolve an issue tearing at the core of Catholicism.

O'Malley said the archdiocese posted online the names of 159 accused clergy members, while there were 91 others who also faced some level of accusation but were not named for various reasons.

An investigation that began after the crisis over sexual abuse of children in the Boston Archdiocese fully emerged in 2002 has pored over records dating back more than 60 years, with subsequent decisions on who to name based on the nature of the accusations and other factors, according to O'Malley.

The disclosure by the Boston Archdiocese represented a shift in policy in a further effort to reach out to victims and their families harmed by the sexual abuse scandal, O'Malley said in a seven-page letter accompanying the announcement.

"My deepest hope and prayer is that the efforts I am announcing today will provide some additional comfort and healing for those who have suffered from sexual abuse by clergy and will continue to strengthen our efforts to protect God's children," the letter concluded.

However, the director of an advocacy group for victims of sexual abuse by priests called the steps announced by O'Malley insufficient and irresponsible, saying only one of the named priests was new to public information.

"We're disappointed with this very belated and begrudging and incomplete list," said a statement by David Clohessy of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests.

Alleging that the names posted by O'Malley deliberately omitted "at least a third of predator priests," Clohessy's statement added that "some kids will be spared some abuse, because some predator priests are now more easily identified, and some victims will feel validation."

"But, many, many more would take comfort if O'Malley released new names instead of continuing the secrecy," the statement said.

O'Malley wrote that the policy change he was announcing "represents the first time that names of accused clerics have been compiled by the Archdiocese in a central location and a readily accessible format."

The letter noted that the searchable lists posted on the website http://www.bostoncatholic.org included what he called "pertinent information" about each member of the clergy listed, such as the individual's year of birth and year of ordination; whether the cleric is alive or deceased; their current status within their church; the date of any disciplinary action, dismissal or criminal conviction; and a link to their assignment history.

"I am acutely aware of the harm that the abuse of children by clergy has caused in the lives of so many," O'Malley wrote in the letter. "And while I know there will be some who believe our policy changes should go further, after careful consultation and consideration of views expressed by many people and groups, I believe that the changes we are making are appropriate."

According to the letter, one list posted includes the names of all Boston Archdiocese clergy who have been found guilty of sexually abusing a child by the Catholic Church or under criminal law, as well as any accused individuals who voluntarily requested removal from the clergy.

In addition, the list also names archdiocese clergy still facing public accusations of child sex abuse, as well as those who died before public accusations of sex abuse against them could be fully investigated or were leveled in the first place.

A separate list includes the names of clergy eventually cleared of public accusations of sexual abuse, O'Malley's letter said. Some of the priests on the second list have returned to active ministry, he noted.

"In the present environment, a priest who is accused of sexually abusing a minor may never be able to fully restore his reputation, even if cleared after civil or canonical proceedings," the letter added.

The 91 accused priests not named on the lists include 62 deceased clergy who were never publicly accused or fully investigated, O'Malley's letter said.

"I emphasize that our decision not to list the names of deceased priests who have not been publicly accused and as to whom there were no canonical proceedings conducted or completed (most were accused well after their death) does not in any way mean that the archdiocese did not find that the claims of particular survivors who accused those deceased priests to be credible or compelling," the letter said. "Indeed, in many of those cases, the archdiocese already has proceeded to compensate the survivor and provides counseling and pastoral care to those individuals."

Of the other accused clergy not named, 22 faced unsubstantiated accusations, four were not in active ministry and face preliminary investigation, and three were already out of the ministry by their own volition or dismissal and never were publicly accused, O'Malley's letter said.

The archbishop's letter pointed out that most of the sexual abuse cases and allegations involve misconduct, real or claimed, from decades earlier, "before the Church adopted its current child protection policies."

It noted that the "vast majority" of complaints to the archdiocese before 2004 involved alleged incidents from 1965 to 1982, and that more recent data showed that only 4% of the 198 accusations received from 2004 to 2010 were alleged to have occurred after 1990.

"I do not say this in any way to minimize the abuse of minors by Boston priests, which is heinous, or the serious mistakes made by the Church hierarchy in responding to it," O'Malley said in the letter. "Nor do I seek to ignore the harm caused to survivors by these historical incidents, harm which is both current and the subject of our ongoing pastoral response.

"Rather I simply seek to place the problem in context and to give the faithful some confidence that the policies adopted by the Church to protect its children starting in the early 1990s have been effective," O'Malley wrote.

–CNN's Samantha Stamler contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Belief • Bishops • Catholic Church • Church • Sex abuse • United States

soundoff (442 Responses)
  1. Colin

    Ten signs you are a Catholic.

    1. You believe that the pope has personal conversations with God (that nobody else ever hears) and is infallible when he elects to speak “from the chair” on matters of Church doctrine. You then wistfully ignore the fact that Church doctrine changes and that former popes therefore could not possibly have been “infallible”. Limbo, for example, was touted by pope after pope as a place where un-baptized babies who die go, until Pope Benedict XVI just eradicated it (or, more accurately, so watered it down as effectively eradicate it in a face saving way). Seems all those earlier “infallible” Popes were wrong – as they were on Adam and Eve v. evolution, heliocentricity v. geocentricity, and a host of other issues that required an amendment of official Church doctrine. You also ignore the innumerable murders, rampant corruption and other crimes committed over the centuries by your “infallible”, god-conversing popes.

    2. You reject the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. You are blissfully (or intentionally) blind to the fact, that had you been born in another part of the World, you would be defending the local god(s) and heralding the incorrectness of Catholic beliefs.

    3. You begrudgingly accept evolution (about a century after Darwin proved it and after accepting Genesis as literally true for about 2,000 years) and that Adam and Eve was totally made up, but then conveniently ignore that fact that your justification for Jesus dying on the cross (to save us from Original Sin) has therefore been eviscerated. Official Church literature still dictates a belief in this nonsense.

    4. You disdain native beliefs as “polytheist” and somehow “inferior” but cannot explain (i) why being polytheistic is any sillier than being monotheistic. Once you make the quantum leap into Wonderland by believing in sky-fairies, what difference does if make if you believe in one or many?; nor (ii) why Christians believe they are monotheistic, given that they believe in god, the devil, guardian angels, the holy spirit, Jesus, many demons in hell, the Virgin Mary, the angel Gabriel, thousands of saints, all of whom apparently make Earthly appearances periodically, and all of whom inhabit their life-after-death lands with magic-sacred powers of some kind.

    5. You bemoan the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don`t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees or the 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden calf (or the dozen or so other slaughters condoned by the bible). You also like to look to god to for guidance in raising your children, ignoring the fact that he drowned his own – according to your Bible.

    6. You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that God impregnated Mary with himself, to give birth to himself, so he could sacrifice himself to himself to “forgive” an ”Original Sin” that we now all know never happened.

    7. You criticize gays as sinners, but have no problem when Lot got drunk and committed father-daughter in.cest (twice) or offered his daughters to a mob to be gang ra.ped, or when Moses, time and again, offered his wife up for the “pleasures” of the Egyptians to save his own skin.

    8. You believe that your god will cause anyone who does not accept your Bronze Age stories to suffer a penalty an infinite times worse than the death penalty (burning forever in excruciating torture) simply because of their healthy skepticism, yet maintain that god “loves them”.

    9. You will totally reject any scientific breakthrough that is inconsistent with your established doctrine, unless and until it is so generally accepted as to back you into a corner. While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you of the deep inanity of your silly faith, some priest doing magic hand signals over bread and wine is enough to convince you it is thereby transformed into the flesh and blood of Jesus because of the priest’s magic powers (or “sacred powers” to the extent you see a difference).

    10. You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to Lourdes, Fátima and other magic places and prayers in general. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. The remaining 99.99% failure was simply “god moving in mysterious ways”. The fact that, if you ask for something repeatedly, over and over, year after year, sooner or later that thing is bound to happen anyway, has not even occurred to you. A stopped clock is right twice a day.

    11. You accept the stories in the Bible without question, despite not having the slightest idea of who actually wrote them, how credible these people were or how long the stories were written after the alleged events they record occurred. For example, it is impossible for Moses to have written the first five books of the Old Testament, as Catholics believe. For one, they record his death and events after his death. In fact, the chance of the Bible being historically accurate in any but the broadest terms is vanishingly small.

    Heavens, I could not fit them into ten.

    August 25, 2011 at 11:17 pm |
    • Ken

      I am a devout cradle Catholic and not one thing on that list applies to me.

      Is the Church infallible? Certainly not. Will the Church survive this? Yes we will. Why? Because even with the faults and failings of the Catholic Church, it has stood the test of time, times most people would not last a day in. The mistakes of the humans in the church are made by humans and organizations world wide and throughout the ages. The Catholic church as stripped herself bare, held herself open to the mockery of everyone and all other Religions, atoned and moved forward.
      The Church, is the People of Catholic faith. So long as one person with that faith lives, so lives the Church.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:28 pm |
    • Colin

      Ken, did you even read what I worte. I never even mentioned the kiddie-fiddling scandal. The thinking person's rejection of Catholicism runs much, much deeper than that.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:31 pm |
    • Les

      You forgot to mentioon that Mary was only 12 yrs. old when God f-–ked her and that 40+ yrs. old Joseph immediately married her for some sloppy seconds.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:33 pm |
    • .Tom A

      Les- what a sophisticated, classy, and nuanced argument. Thanks for your contribution to the discussion. If you are in some way trying to make atheism look more appealing, well done!

      August 25, 2011 at 11:57 pm |
    • RecoveringCatholic

      Wow, you have too much time on your hands, a little less talk and a little more action please. You have turned finding fault into an literary genre

      August 26, 2011 at 12:51 am |
    • Chainyanker

      @Colin - well written, sure makes those Catholics think twice, I hope...but brainwashing can be pretty permanent.

      August 26, 2011 at 1:32 am |
    • Chainyanker

      @RecoveringCatholic - the listed items are not fault finding, it's saying things the way it is. It should make people analyze their beliefs and question them...could be they have faulty thinking because of brainwashing.

      August 26, 2011 at 1:44 am |
    • cocopuf2

      The Catholic Church may will probably survive here. But, it is possible to believe in vain (according to Paul) – I can't help it but to think about the Seven Letters to the Churches that Our Lord Jesus wrote in the beginning of the Book of Revelation ... Not all Seven Churches were doing what God instructed them to do.
      The bottom line is however, it is not what Church you go to or how much you give, or your works that matters; but your personal relationship with Christ Our Lord that matters. Are you walking in His footsteps ... is what We need to ask ourselves. If NOT, then we may be believing in VAIN according to Paul. That is frightening ... Some people are interpreting the Bible to sort of fit their lifestyles on Earth ... 🙂

      August 26, 2011 at 2:33 am |
    • SCAtheist

      I though John wrote Revelation

      August 26, 2011 at 5:44 am |
    • Bill

      This list seems to apply to all fundamentalist christians except the pope part, and nowadays no-one thinks the pope is infallible or some kind of divine emissary. This list may apply to old ladies, but not to anyone I know.

      August 26, 2011 at 8:08 am |
    • geraldh

      "Some people are interpreting the Bible to sort of fit their lifestyles on Earth ... "

      The definition of protestant....

      August 26, 2011 at 11:58 am |
    • geraldh

      As a Catholic all I have to say is zzzzzzzzZZZZZzzz......

      August 26, 2011 at 12:07 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      geraldh

      As a Catholic all I have to say is zzzzzzzzZZZZZzzz......

      ------
      Not surprised, the church acted int he same way. You support and condone child r a p ist s....you are catholic

      August 26, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • geraldh

      Colin's post said nothing about child rapists. I guess since in your post you say nothing about the many atheist child rapists then you support them. You are an irrational buffoon.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
  2. 10Gauge

    Mao Tse Tung, and Joesph Stalin did not take one single life in the name of atheism.
    Their fight was not about religion at all.
    Atheists do not kill to defend atheism like religious zealots do to defend their fantasy creature in the sky.

    August 25, 2011 at 11:15 pm |
  3. Aaron

    So much for the Church giving any due process to the accused. They're accused, names posted, case closed.

    August 25, 2011 at 11:08 pm |
    • Angela Birch

      The Church does not give due process, that is what the legal authorities do for at least 30 years the church has fought tooth and nail to make sure that the legal authorities did not have access to information necessary to make sure that everyone had due process of law. So now they have published 250 names. This does not stop th people involved from getting due rocess. Accused criminals are identified every day. Don't you ever read the newspapers? IF the evidence is sufficient ( meaning that the church doesn't hide it or continue shipping the evidence off to the Vatican in diplomatic pouches) I am sure that they will receive their due process of law. Why should priestly child molesters slink into court under anonymity while any other child molester is all over the papers, complete with pictures. You have funny priorities.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:29 pm |
    • cocopuf2

      I am sure that the Church would not post names UNLESS there were sufficient evidence and witnesses to confirm it.

      August 26, 2011 at 2:37 am |
  4. IneffableOxymoron

    The argument of free will is illogical. It is a paradox, because Christianity teaches "God" knows everything, even before it happens. If this were true, then free will could not exist. Christianity is filled with contradictions like this.

    August 25, 2011 at 11:03 pm |
    • Michael

      Given it is just made up rubbish to control weak minded people and make money it's not surprising it's full of contradictions.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:09 pm |
    • TheTruth72

      I'm not sure you've thought about it enough. Since we are mere dust compared to God, how can you expect to know as much as God. That's just showing ignorance and disrespect. But to get to your point. We can't totally know how it works. Think of it this way though. God gives us free will. We can choose what we want to do, but even if we do, God knows the outcome. So we still have the choice to obey or disobey, love or hate, stand beside or walk away. He knows what we will do in advance, but let's us make that decision.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:10 pm |
    • George In Austerlitz

      Knowing what our full list of choices are and knowing what choice we will make from that list are not the same thing.
      Even knowing what the "RIGHT" choice is does not interfere, interact or determine an outcome.

      Ergo, free will is neither illogical nor a paradox.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:11 pm |
    • TheTruth72

      Now you may realize the Bible says at certain times that God changed His mind or repented for doing something. I believe that even God knew He would do that. It's just all part of His plan and we should accept that. Know why we should accept that? Because He is bigger than us and deserves the glory. You may just brush this off as ignorance, but try actually reading the Bible before commenting on something. It makes for a better discussion. Or at least less arguments. 🙂

      August 25, 2011 at 11:15 pm |
    • Len@Seattle

      Well science is finding increasing evidence for parallel universes, so apparently we all have a doubles who may have made alternative choices. One could have chosen to be a priest, while in another perhaps a cop. In this case, God may see all outcomes, yet see far enough to the folding of time back to His plan. God did promise that His word would not return to Him void. This could be the way. Under this plan sins could be forgotten, forgiven, or punished. The bible claim that God knows everything is not dis-proven by sheer rejection of the theology (where we just choose not to believe) nor can it be rationally rejected just because we do not know (we'd be displacing rational approaches with our own theology). The existence of God can only be dis-proven by factual evidence, none of which has been produced against it. One thing we do find through science is that there is lots of order to the universe, and where there is order, purpose is behind it.

      Now, regarding the pervert priests: They should be punished and viewed as dangerous to the community. It is obvious that the Catholic Church like others is guilty of being more concerned worldly issues that God's work. Jesus Christ for example preached for informal communal gatherings in peoples homes and warned against religious organizations. Scripture plainly instructs us to write God's laws in our hearts, that we are the temple, and for Christians- that Jesus is the only Intercessor we need. There are many who use God's name for evil, including priests, judges, and politicians. But this is why God instructed us to test everything against His Word, not mans word, but His.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:52 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      Libet has proven there is no free will: ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI1624SwYnI )

      August 25, 2011 at 11:53 pm |
    • cocopuf2

      There are a lot of people that use their logic to justify their own willingness to not believe in a creator, and to find fault with everything else within it. That is also a choice that you have. Adam & Eve had the same choices to make. So, is there any reason for me to try to explain why you are wrong in the way you are looking at your creator? Yes, there are lots of obvious and not so obvious reasons ... but, you ill probably doubt those too.
      The only thing that I can tell you is that you and I and everyone else are living but in a small ... short dash between two dates. Don't waste it away. 🙂

      August 26, 2011 at 2:57 am |
    • Real Deal

      cocopuf,

      Think of the list of gods which you doubt.... Zeus, Thor, Ra, Quetzalcoatl, Allah, Ganesh - when you understand why you doubt them, maybe you will understand why we doubt yours. We doubt only one more god than you do.

      August 26, 2011 at 3:08 am |
    • cocopuf2

      To Michael
      What you have posted is about the dumbest reason(s) that people come up with to reject God Word. Not only are you showing your ignorance of your own creator, but what is even worse, is that you are willingly ignorant. Look around you for a while ... Only a fool will says in his heart that there is no creator. At the end, we are all without excuses (period)

      August 26, 2011 at 3:18 am |
    • claybigsby

      "Only a fool will says in his heart that there is no creator. At the end, we are all without excuses (period)"

      No only a fool will say in his heart that his creator is the one true god. Im gonna stick with my answer of "I dont know"

      August 26, 2011 at 10:08 am |
  5. IneffableOxymoron

    The argument of free will is illogical. It is a paradox, because Christianity teaches "God" knows everything, even before it happens. If this were true, then fee will could not exist. Christianity is filled with contradictions like this.

    August 25, 2011 at 11:03 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      cocopuf2 what part of evolution is incorrect? Evolution tells us how we evolved from the first cell It does not tell us what caused that first cell that is called abiogenesis The creation of the universe has many working hypotheses but no one is sure at this time which one is correct or even if they will lead to the answer. You are correct in claiming that we could come back as anything...as you decompose your atoms will be absorbed into anything and you may well be a cow horse, or part of a rain drop...in fact you may have been part of those even before you were born....your atoms are as old as the universe.. we part of the ultimate recycling program...neat eh

      August 26, 2011 at 12:47 am |
    • geraldh

      God knowing what is going to happen does not require him to make it happen or make something else happen so where is the contradiction?

      August 26, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • geraldh

      THere are no proven theories with regard to abiogenesis. THe miller experiment showed how amino acids might be formed, though there is no real world evidence that it ever happened in the way Miller did it. BUt an amino accid is a long way from a protien and even farther from a living cell. If abiogenetic events are occuring where are they in nature today? No one can show this. Where are the pools of amino acids, created from inorganic matter? Further they keep trying to show macro-evolution with the next new fossil and it always falls short.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
    • Stevie7

      God knowing that you're going to "choose" to go to hell before he creates, and creating you anyway knowing he's going to torment you forever is rather sadistic, don't you think?

      August 26, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
    • geraldh

      Well if I believed God tormented forever then yes it would be. What God does however is give you want you want. Separation from him because you do not love him. He is not a r a p i s t. The torture is being outside his prescence. It is not the fault of the furnace in the home that a man choses to go out in a blizard and freeze to death.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
    • Stevie7

      @geraldh – believers have always injected god to fill the gaps in scientific knowledge. Those gaps are continually closing. It didn't work when people said the earth was flat, and it doesn't work now.

      I love the fossil record argument. The crazy part about the argument is that there will ALWAYS be holes in the fossil record since the record is, by nature, discrete. For example, let's say you have a line and you have two points, A and E on either side of that line. You could point to A and E and say "hey, there's a hole!". Now lets say someone comes by and discovers C to further connect A and E. Now someone could say, hey, there's TWO holes! If you want to be blind to reality, I'm fine with that, as long as you don't try to put those blinders on public school kids (my Catholic school taught that evolution was a scientific fact, btw).

      August 26, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
    • Stevie7

      gerald – you miss the point. god knows what you're going to do before you do it. So god knows that you're not going to "choose" to go to heaven. So he creates you knowing that you're going to suffer for ETERNITY. You can try to spin it anyway you want. god can give you the choice, but he already knows what that choice is. In creating a person, he does so knowing that the person will suffer eternally. That's sadistic.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
    • geraldh

      No I understand your point. You don't understand Catholic theology. It says that God gives each and every soul sufficient grace to gain eternal life. Therefore the fault is not his if you reject the grace.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
    • geraldh

      If I give my child sufficient education to choose not to take drugs or break the law and he does anyway, am I responsible?

      August 26, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • Stevie7

      "It says that God gives each and every soul sufficient grace to gain eternal life. "
      --
      I understand Catholic theology just fine – but it just means that god is sadistic. So god gives a soul grace to gain eternal life – great. But in creating that soul, he already knows what that soul is going to choose. I realize that god doesn't make the choices for that soul, but he does make the choice to create that soul knowing what the outcome is. That's sadistic. Whether god does the actual torturing or not isn't relevant. The fact that he creates the soul knowing whether or not it will be eternally tortured is very relevant.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:39 pm |
    • Stevie7

      "If I give my child sufficient education to choose not to take drugs or break the law and he does anyway, am I responsible?"
      --
      Awful analogy – you didn't know what your child was going to do ahead of time.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • Stevie7

      Better analogy – if you gave your child a toy knowing that he would choose to break it and hurt himself, would you be responsible? I mean, you didn't choose to break the toy – it was the child's choice.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:41 pm |
    • gerald

      Stevie, who is wiser than God and more just than anyone, if a manager gives an employee all the tools to succeed and that employee fails, while having the ability to succeed, who's fault is it if the employee gets fired. By your "justice" sound like noone should get fired. It does not matter if the employer knows that the employee would fail or not really with regard to responsibility. Evidently you have a problem with personal responsibility, accountabiliity. Typical American.

      August 26, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
  6. My View

    There is no god, and there is no satan.
    This is no heaven and there is no hell.
    No fire and no sleeping on the clouds.
    We are born without a choice to be.
    We die as a result of being conceived.
    Nothing complex or simple about it.
    And that is that.

    We can help each other or harm each other.
    We all go back to dirt.
    Our earth will be gone in time, as will our sun.
    New "things" will happen as "old" fade away.
    Hate is distructive and hope will carry ahead.

    August 25, 2011 at 11:00 pm |
    • logikflux

      I'd give you a hug if Bill Gates could figure it out.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:02 pm |
    • TheTruth72

      If you can be proved wrong in one instance, what then? If a person is healed from blindness, what you just said becomes drivle. If a person comes back to life after a couple days, they wake up in the morgue and have a death certificate, what do you have to say of that? Clearly there are things in this world that are supernatural. Anyone that denies that isn't searching hard enough or chooses to ignore it. Now once you come to that conclusion that supernatural exists. Look into the topics of demons and the use of the name Jesus Christ on them. Yep, you guessed it, God exists and so does satan and demons. Oh and Jesus does too and He loves you very much and wants a relationship with you.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:21 pm |
    • cocopuf2

      That is what evolution teachers essentially have been teaching kids since elementary school (indoctrination of a big lie). You came from nothing or random chance, for no particular reason, and when you die, well, it 's the end for you ... if you're lucky or by random chance you may return as a cow, buffalo, of a tree. So, if it feels good. Do it. LOL !!!

      August 25, 2011 at 11:26 pm |
    • Wes Scott

      This is to The Truth72:

      There has NEVER been a person two days dead in a morgue that arose from the dead! No EVER! Once you are embalmed, meaning your blood has been drained, rigor mortis has set in, and your brain and other organs have been deprived of oxygen for 48 hours you ain't getting back up off that table!

      It is one thing to believe in the delusional tenets of religion, but to to believe that anybody can survive death is to reject reality for a belief system that should land one in a funny farm where that person can pose no harm to himself or any other person.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:30 am |
    • EvolvedDNA

      the truth72..well actually no..it is possible that a doctor could restore sight to a blind person..and as far as the death scenario why would that have to supernatural..it could have been a mistake on the part of the doctor or examiner to issue a certificate. Now the amputee scenario would be interesting.. could god grow a limb back in a minute or two..or even a year?..has that ever been recorded? thats omething that would almost be outside of the realm of the possible, at least until our human minds find a terrestrial way to do it....... ..

      August 26, 2011 at 12:33 am |
    • Chainyanker

      Man may indeed someday be able to grow limbs back, there is research going on to find out how salamanders do it.

      August 26, 2011 at 1:30 am |
    • angry candy

      cnn keeps deleting my comments, however, give my view a hug for me too. That is a poem. Dismantle all religions.

      August 26, 2011 at 10:47 am |
    • Sporkify

      "That is what evolution teachers essentially have been teaching kids since elementary school (indoctrination of a big lie)."

      LOL the irony is hilarious. Thank god (lol) my parents never brainwashed me as a child. Religion truly is the opiate of the masses. The arrogance and presumption of religious folks is downright absurd. A slight twist on what you folks are so fond of quoting, "you don't have to believe in reality, reality believes in you."

      August 26, 2011 at 10:54 am |
    • gerald

      Ok, if you like then you will just have an eternal bad dream.

      August 26, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
  7. carl

    Conscious and accountability will find truth...men are weak,the devil does not sleep.Believers have never denied they are perfect far from it that's why we have the law and that's God and thru Jesus (praise God) we have grace...don't take this for granted.

    August 25, 2011 at 10:58 pm |
  8. Les

    250 clerics accused? Get a life folks. This is nothing more than a bunch hysterical spoiled children that didn't want to go to church and a bunch of hysterical grown up brats that need a reason to not go back to church. Read the accounts of the Salem witch trials and you will clearly see the same pattern emerges.

    BTW, you Bible freaks out there should spend more time reading your bibles. N o one was considered to be a child over the age of 12 yrs. which conveniently is the age that humans actually become adult breeding members of society. Just because modern society defines 13-18 yr old breeders as "adult", it does not in any way invalidate the biblical (and correct) age of 12. While anyone is liable under the laws of the land, you have no right to view artificial laws as being linked to God and sin.

    While a paltry few of the hysterically accused may have committed crimes against man, what they did is most certainly NOT a sin in either in the Bible or in God's eyes. Stick to your bible and practice righteous indignation when appropriate.

    August 25, 2011 at 10:53 pm |
    • rowan whitty

      freedom of speech is obviously something still not allowed in the church.

      August 25, 2011 at 10:57 pm |
    • Dan

      Les;
      You're an idiot.
      Kind Regards,
      Dan

      August 25, 2011 at 10:58 pm |
    • Les

      @Dan

      How so what I posted is the absolute truth. I would suggest if you are going to use juvenile name slinging you at least address the areas that you think are "idiocy". Until you do then I can only assume that you are completely uneducated and haven't got a clue as to the facts. Get a life, ignorance and stupidity are not well received in most social circles. You clearly fit both criteria. And it is clearly apparent thjat you are not well versed in actual scripture.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:11 pm |
    • cocopuf2

      It is my opinion, there are a lot of pedophiles, and other sick people who are in the Catholic church knowing that they will get away with it or interpreting the Bible to fit their needs so to speak. So, that number of evil in Boston alone doesn't surprise me.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:34 am |
    • cocopuf2

      Your earlier comment to another poster was: "T^he crimes they are accused of were not crimes 30 yrs ago." Well, it seems to me that you're interpreting the Bible for your own reasons rather than in terms of God's will. In the eyes of our creator, a crime committed today is the same as a crime committed 30 years ago or in earlier times. ... fornication IS fornication no matter when or why you did it.
      Which Bible are you reading anyway? There are quite a few, you know, and some also deny the Deity of Jesus. 🙂

      August 26, 2011 at 12:56 am |
  9. saddenedbutnotsurprised

    two hundred-and-fifity in one archdiocese!?!?! I am not catholic, and therefore make no claims to specific knowledge of the religion nor those in positions of authority. It is sad however, to hear yet more of such truly criminal acts; and perpetrated by those in authority of the Church, for Heaven's sakes!!!... Please prosecute these folks! We are all sinners; but we're not talking about parking tickets, here. Good Lord! How sad.

    August 25, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
    • Michael

      I bet that is vastly understated too.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:11 pm |
  10. carl

    Atheists have committed the most henious atrocious acts in all recorded history...can anyone say millions!!!...

    August 25, 2011 at 10:46 pm |
    • Only one

      your saying atheists are responsible for the deaths of millions?? lets see.....crusades?? Spanish inquisition?? other religions are responsible for deaths of millions as well just to name a few....

      August 25, 2011 at 10:55 pm |
    • JT

      Your attempt to distract and obsolve your child r@ping priests is disgusting. So, you're really saying that your church is no different than any secular organization? The RCC isn't divine afterall? Thanks for the admission. So why take your children into this den of pedophiles?

      August 25, 2011 at 11:03 pm |
    • Robin

      Hitler was a Christian, that's 11 million right there. Then there were the Crusades – another 9 million. Christians are the ones that kill non-believers, just like their offshoot, the Muslims. Although the Christians have a MUCH higher death toll.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:06 pm |
    • bananaspy

      Oh here we go again with the Stalin, Mao, etc. speech. They were terrible men, period. You can't kill millions in the name of atheism though because atheism doesn't stand for anything, it is nothing more than the lack of theism. Get that through your head right now. Evil men will do evil for their ideologies, but if you want to get a good man to do evil, introduce the concept of god.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:09 pm |
    • Michael

      Atheists are not a group to which you can attribute anything you dim wit. Any more than people that don't
      play tennis are a group. Simply not belonging or believing in something, doesn't make a group of like minded people..

      August 25, 2011 at 11:15 pm |
  11. Angel

    In Islam, you can do it with 6-old girls. One Two Three it doesn't matter.

    August 25, 2011 at 10:44 pm |
  12. HappyMeal

    The Church of England should kick out all those liberal theologians. They are no Christian, teaching immorality to be endorsed which the Bible condemns.

    August 25, 2011 at 10:29 pm |
    • Jose

      Kick people out because they have a different opinion??

      August 25, 2011 at 10:56 pm |
    • cocopuf2

      It is either men' laws or it is God's laws. You chose based on you being wise ... or, you being a fool (period)

      August 25, 2011 at 11:14 pm |
    • Michael

      Men made up what is in the bible you moron.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:16 pm |
    • HappyMeal

      No, the single Authorship of God is evident throught the Bible. If one wants such outright disobedience to the plain teachings of the Bible, he should leave the Church instead of staying and polluting it.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:33 pm |
    • Robert Johnson

      "evident throughout the bible"? The only things evident throughout the bible are: 1) Its astounding contradictions of itself, 2) Its illustration of the capricious nature of a god who blames humanity for the very things that god supposedly created, 3) the utter immorality of the god who supposedly established morals, and 4) The profound ignorance of the men who wrote it.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:10 am |
    • cocopuf2

      To Robert Johnson:
      .. then, there are the confused, and willingly blind ignorant people ... 🙂

      August 26, 2011 at 1:17 am |
    • Sporkify

      ...but, but, but...the bible is true because the bible says it's true!

      YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT

      August 26, 2011 at 10:58 am |
    • gerald

      Sprokey,

      Putting simplistic arguments in the mouths of Christians makes you a simpleton. If you want to post straw men and bowl them over that is your perogative. It just makes you intellecutally dishonest.

      August 26, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
  13. Dennis Q Miller

    O'Malley deliberately omitted "at least a third of predator priests. Of course, that way he can transfer them to another diocese to continue the great tradition of the catlholic church pedophiles

    August 25, 2011 at 10:24 pm |
    • Michael

      So there are upwards of 750 to maybe 1,000 in the Boston are, not counting dead ones. Mind you, given this has been going on nearly 2,000 years counting dead bent priests would take a while.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:18 pm |
    • Les

      @Michael

      T^he crimes they are accused of were not crimes 30 yrs ago. So earlier examples cannot be considered. Today they are secular crimes not sinful disobedience except in the minds of the deluded since the Bible is ABSOLUTELY SILENT on the matter.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:48 pm |
  14. rick

    santa claus, satan, god, ghosts, tooth fairies etc.........Honestly ask yourself, how many Atheists commit these types of crimes.....how many? I'll give you a hint......it's very close to zero. Carry on folks.

    August 25, 2011 at 10:24 pm |
    • darkhorserunner

      Mao Tse Tung, and Joesph Staline were atheist and they killed millions. Carry on yourself!

      August 25, 2011 at 10:47 pm |
    • Jose

      all religions have committed crimes atheists are just one of the groups that get blamed the most in my opinion

      August 25, 2011 at 10:57 pm |
    • Michael

      Jose ... Atheists are not a group! They have nothing in common. Do people that don't play tennis form a group? Simply not being a member of a religion does not create any bond other they are not wasting their time hating other religions or keeping popes in wealth.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:21 pm |
    • Sporkify

      Mao and Stalin killed for power, religious folks kill for God.

      And religion is still way, WAY ahead of Stalin and Mao put together.

      Next please.

      August 26, 2011 at 10:59 am |
  15. George Washington Carver

    These wicked men should be thrown in a giant griddle and fried to a crisp, to the pleasing and wholesome sound of sizzling peanut oil!

    August 25, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
    • sisterrosa

      Yes, they will be. It's called "HELL".

      August 25, 2011 at 10:54 pm |
    • Jose

      sounds like the Spanish Inquisition

      August 25, 2011 at 10:58 pm |
    • logikflux

      STOP, you're making me hungry.

      August 25, 2011 at 11:04 pm |
    • Michael

      Way too fast! I'm sure there are way better punishment. Let's check out some of the things Catholics did to those they didn't like, say in the Spanish Inquisition?

      August 25, 2011 at 11:23 pm |
    • Chainyanker

      @sisterrosa You mean Hell is sizzling peanut oil? Yikes, I'd better go back to church and repent.

      August 26, 2011 at 1:57 am |
  16. RusTnuts

    Now just post current address for the one's still alive (and probably still molesting children) and you might have something.

    August 25, 2011 at 10:12 pm |
  17. us1776

    The cults of the "Invisible Being" have provided the perfect cover for the most sick and vile among us to hide and commit heinous acts against children.

    .

    August 25, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
    • Facts

      There are more registered offenders in my city. Doubt they are all clergy. People can be moral either because of a belief in a higher being, or because of sound philosophy. Either way, its lack of moral standards that these people lack.

      August 25, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
  18. RC

    No...it's actually proof that God allows people to exercise their free will, as well as govern themselves. It's a good thing that these men are being outed, and that it reveals a very big problem in the Catholic church, namely that it maintains an environment where predators can hide and feed. As more deviants are revealed, the Catholic church culture will have to change.

    Unfortunately, this is the kind of thing Satan loves, obviously from Martin's comments because it gives haters and ignorant people ammunition to argue against God and church. Creating lies and confusion about God and his church (not "the Catholic church", but "the church" which was founded 2000 years ago on the day of Pentecost). Confusion about who God is and what true religion is. Confusion about morality in general. Case in point, it is not logical to suggest there is "good" vs "bad" if there is no ultimate moral authority, no higher power that created everything, including free will and the ability to choose whether to heed that drive to do what is "good" vs doing what you want to do at the expense of "good" and of other people.

    August 25, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
    • merecat

      Very Good Points..

      August 25, 2011 at 10:08 pm |
    • Salty Bob

      According to Hawking, something can indeed be created from nothing.
      Hawking, arguably the greatest scientific mind of our time, said he believes the laws of physics and not the hand of a god explain why we are here. He said that physics can explain why the Big Bang happened. He writes: "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing." Many other scientists have, in the past, suggested God is used merely to explain away gaps in human knowledge.
      why so many people need a god he replied: "People want to think there is something they can relate to and which can make them feel they are not isolated but are part of a larger whole. They seek it as the authority for an ethical system and a lifestyle they can aspire to but not necessarily achieve."

      August 25, 2011 at 10:12 pm |
    • JT

      Ah yes...the ol "free will" scam..."the lord works in mysterious way"...yadda, yadda. You deluded child r@pe supporters are so disgusting.

      August 25, 2011 at 10:40 pm |
    • steven harnack

      To call non-believers ignorant is probably the stupidest thing that you said, among many stupid things. Most atheists have, like myself, studied all religions and know more about the bible than 99% of so-called christians, and realized that with all of the similarities and common myths that they are either all true or all false, and from there it's an easy choice. It burns my butt to be called ignorant by someone who believes that myths are true when they don't even know the origins of those myths.

      August 26, 2011 at 1:10 am |
    • Chainyanker

      What's even more scary is that something like 46% of the US population (or was it Christians) believe in angels.

      August 26, 2011 at 2:01 am |
    • Sporkify

      "Case in point, it is not logical to suggest there is "good" vs "bad" if there is no ultimate moral authority, no higher power that created everything"

      Actually, (and you're going to hate this) altruism has been observed in many species other than man, most notably canines and primates (our best friends and our cousins) and evolved over time as a societal trait that helps the propagation of the species. After all, if everyone goes crazy and does all the vile things we all occasionally think of, no one would survive for long and our species would fail. Morality evolved as a survival trait. No god necessary.

      Next please.

      August 26, 2011 at 11:03 am |
  19. Habib

    If they like child abuse, they can go to Islam, its legal in Islam to have child sed*ction.

    August 25, 2011 at 9:41 pm |
    • ummm

      Logic Fail

      August 25, 2011 at 10:14 pm |
    • cocopuf2

      Heuh .... Hello .... are you senselessly mumbling to yourself or what? You need some rest. Now !!!

      August 26, 2011 at 3:25 am |
  20. Truth Tellerz

    Sure , they got all these so called priest child molestors cause this is the anti christ system.
    I can't wait till Jesus come back and obliveates this system. God does have people in this church though. I hope that they come out of her and be not partakers in anymore of her SINS.

    August 25, 2011 at 9:23 pm |
    • Martin T

      @ Truth – have you been keeping up there my friend at the number of "other" Christian child molesters out there, not just the Catholic Church.

      I'm appalled at the number of priest who have been outed for sure, there simply isn't an excuse for this EVER. This is, again, a testament to the fact that there is no Jesus or god and that religion tends to bring out the good and a LOT of the bad in people.

      August 25, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
    • merecat

      Actually it proves there is a Satan.. he is the one that is evil with his Dupes.. 1 John 5:19.. There is a God.. and a Jesus.. people will be soon facing proof.. though they will refuse to admit it... till they are "swept away" as in the Days Of Noah..

      August 25, 2011 at 10:11 pm |
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