Although she was joking, its the truth. God uses the weather/disaster among several other things to get man's attention.
HERE"S Proof of GOD's ROLE IN THE WEATHER found in Job 37:
Job 37 says.
God directs the noise of his voice and the sound of his mouthunder the whole heaven and his lightning unto the ends of the earth. 5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend . 6 For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain, and to the great rain of his strength. 7 He sealeth up the hand of every man; that all men may know his work. 8 Then the beasts go into dens, and remain in their places. 9 Out of the south cometh the whirlwind: and cold out of the north. 10 By the breath of God frost is given : and the breadth of the waters is straitened. 11 Also by watering he wearieth the thick cloud: he scattereth his bright cloud: 12 And it is turned round about by his counsels: that they may do whatsoever he commandeth them upon the face of the world in the earth. 13 He causeth it to come, whether for correction, or for his land, or for mercy. 14 Hearken unto this, O Job: stand still , and consider the wondrous works of God. 15 Dost thou know when God disposed them, and caused the light of his cloud to shine? 16 Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, the wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge? 17 How thy garments are warm, when he quieteth the earth by the south wind? 18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass? 19 Teach us what we shall say unto him; for we cannot order our speech by reason of darkness. 20 Shall it be told him that I speak ? if a man speak , surely he shall be swallowed up . 21 And now men see not the bright light which is in the clouds: but the wind passeth , and cleanseth them. 22 Fair weather cometh out of the north: with God is terrible majesty. 23 Touching the Almighty, we cannot find him out : he is excellent in power, and in judgment, and in plenty of justice:
Ecclesiastes 3 declares God's sovereign control over all events that takes place under
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Helmet head strikes again. Can her hair get any bigger?????
perhaps you have heard of this poem by Joyce Kilmer:
I THINK that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the sweet earth's flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.
True, only a few like people like Joyce Kilmer can with reasoning ability discern that only a Grand Designer could have created something so wonderful as a tree. You sir, are one of billions who choose to willfully remain in ignorance. So sad. (cue the violins)
"Grand Designer could have created something so wonderful as a tree"
Would this be the same grand designer who gave us an unnecessary organ that provides little to no benefit and can kill? Such a designer would either not be intelligent or would be sadistic.
I'm more in awe of the idea of evolution than the idea of a watchmaker.
I actually find no problem with her comments in the clip. I am pretty sure there is no god but I understand the point she was making with her humor. She did NOT make light of the loss some experienced due to this natural disaster.
What a dreadful person. We were following the story on the Weather Channel when they announced that a child had gone missing when a tree had fallen on an apartment complex. Later we found out that the child had died. Does Bachmann think that the death of a child is a joke? Does she think that the death of anyone is a joke? Or the devastation of homes all along the eastern seaboard (not just Washington DC) is something to laugh about? She is a sick individual, very much in need of some humility.
I think the more telling line from the clip was "the American people have done everything they possibly can. Now we need an act of God." She's seriously asking people to vote for her based on the position of "I've already given up on fixing our problems." Or does she expect us to believe that if we elect her, god will reward us by fixing our problems for us? Either way, it's a scary thought process.
I've long been of the opinion that people who think natural disasters are punishments from their god for some behavior or another have extremely low opinions of their gods. Ask any psychologist, or educator, or dog trainer, or reasonably competent parent, and they can tell you that punishment doesn't work to correct behavior unless there is an obvious link between the punishment and the behavior. Either it must happen immediately after the behavior, or there must be a clear explanation of exactly why the punishment is being meted out. Otherwise, you're just inflicting pain to no purpose (except perhaps to satisfy your own petty desire for retribution). But natural disasters never seem to come with an explanation. No letters of fire across the sky proclaiming the reason for punishment, or who the target is. So when you say "this is a punishment from my god," in essence you're conveying the message "my god doesn't understand how punishment works for changing behavior, or he just likes to take out his frustrations by killing folks to no purpose."
Bachmann is so simple minded. Why lame-stream media gives her air time is a mystery to me. Oh yeah, it sells news.
Well, she's also a serious contender forthe GOP nomination. That makes her newsworthy no matter how loony she appears.
I dont think Bachmann was making a joke. She was using the flood and quake as an opportunity to point out Gods part in these disasters. Her back tracking saying it was a joke is nonsense. Glenn beck said the hurricane was a blessing. I feel certain Perry will slip something in about the hurricane and earthquake being some kind of sign from God. I have not found it written yet but I know I will. I think it is extremely dangerous if these religious extreemists take over the whitehouse. I dont like voting for a person and voting for their religious beliefs too, and thats what they leave us with. Yes, there are things about President Obama that he needs to take some time and more council on particular problems. But, Oh my goodness we dont have to worry that he does not depend on God or prayer to answer everything. We have lots of things to change, but turning our country into a religious state like the countries we are fighting in just cannot be allowed. Any nutcase should see that this way does not work.
CRBadley, I'm with you. As bad as things are, the last thing we need are a bunch of religious fanatics running this country. I'm not a fan of Obama but I'd prefer him for four more years over any of these presumed republican canidates to this point. I'm very disappointed really. What's happened to the republican party? We must maintain separation of church and state and not just pay lip service to the idea. We must not attempt to legislate morality.
From p. 1:
If there were a god, said spirit would not tolerate the stupidity of Beck or Bachmann thereby proving there is no god
"If there were a god, said spirit would not tolerate the stupidity of Beck or Bachmann thereby proving there is no god."
At this point in time, God tolerates "stupidity" not forever but just for a little while. God did not make us as clones, robots, or automatons. He gives everyone free will, free choice, free behavior (up to a point, within reason), and free thought. It is proof that there is a God.
@Junglefoot, there is no god. If there was a god and he tolerated idiots like Bachman and others who reportedly "speak" for him or interpret every incident in the world as god's plan or him "telling us something" and he did NOTHING to refute their nonsense, then he is a weak and useless god to begin with. So, therefore, there is either NO god or a god with NO use, either way, I and others, simply can not believe in him.
The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians during the past 200 years)
Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??
I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)
Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,
He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.
Of course Hurricane Irene was a message from God. It's His way of telling us that climate change is real.
I'm sure Michelle Bachmann would pretend to be terribly offended if someone suggested that a natural disaster in her area was a sign that she should shut her mouth and change her ways. She doesn't speak for God, and she has no business pretending that she does. Natural disasters hit believers and unbelievers, the wicked and the virtuous, with terrifying impartiality.
Are you personally prepared to stand face to face with people who are the innocent victims of freak accidents, or the good, decent parents of children born with terrible deformities, and tell them it's God's judgement on them? More even than that: are you prepared, on the worst day of your life - your loved ones killed, your home destroyed, all you've worked for lost and gone - to have some stranger wander up and tell you that it was all your fault?
If not, do as you would be done by.
The REAL issue is that Bachman DOES Speak for god, why? Because god does not exist and as has been the practice of fanatics over the centuries, using the imaginary god to push your agenda through is exactly what idiots like Bachman have been doing.
@What how stupid are you? But being a bachman supporter, well what else can you expect.
I find it revolting that a country that possesses nuclear weapons, has a chance of being lead by such lunatics.
I don't know that I would use the word that you chose..."revolting" I am more apt to use the words "Insane" "Crazy" etc... to give the kind of destructive power that you mention and put it in the hands of a wing-nut like a Perry or Bachmann.
Now, now... let's not jump to any hasty psychiatric diagnoses. After all, what really consti tutes "Crazy" in a world gone mad anyway?
How about just plain 'disconcerting?'
Hello, my friend !!
Well, I think that we can reasonably agree that when 'you' are calming 'me' down, you know that apparently I've blown a fuse ! LOL...!! 8O
Hope that you are well, buddy.
I'll be happy to share my meds with you... I got some good stuff last week. "Samples" I think my doc called them.
But I've heard that the drug reps call them "tester packs."
Are they SSRI's...? Benzo's...? A-Typicals...? Stimulants...i.e...Adderall, Ritalin...? The heavies...Thorazine, haldol...? 8O
Sure, let me use some of your..."Samples" LOL...! I could probably use whatever you got ! :D
Again, I'm still in amazement at 'you'... calming 'me' down. "Hey, Peace... now, now, now... ya' know, take it down a notch !" LOL... Man, your meds or therapy, yoga, house reno's, s-e-x, skydiving, etc... or whatever must be working for you.
I'm happy for ya' !
Well, I guess I'll now have to ask you to help keep me in check from now on, so I don't get too out of hand ! LOL...
Only Israel and USA should have kept nukes for security and peace, no other nation.
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