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Bombs, songs and soccer: Glasgow confronts a religious divide
Celtic versus Rangers is one of the fiercest rivalries in world football.
September 16th, 2011
04:38 PM ET

Bombs, songs and soccer: Glasgow confronts a religious divide

By Ben Wyatt, CNN

Glasgow, Scotland (CNN) - Robert Marshall is the burly, landlord of The Louden Tavern, a pub located in the west end of the Scottish city of Glasgow, on the south bank of the same Clyde River that was once used to ferry coal and steel to the great shipbuilding companies that in the past made this area an industrial powerhouse.

There is no doubt as to which soccer team Marshall and his clientele give their loyalties. Decorated in the team colors of red, white and blue throughout its interior and situated only a stone's throw from the famous Ibrox Stadium, the bar is overt in its homage to Rangers Football Club.

Its position around the corner from the Glasgow Orange Order - a Protestant fraternity who still march once a year to celebrate the victory of King William III over the Catholic King James II in 1690 at the Battle of the Boyne - may be a mere coincidence, the allegiance of its regulars to Rangers is not.

Across town, on the Gallowgate road, Tommy Carberry pulls pints in Bairds Bar, a building daubed in the green hue synonymous with Celtic Football Club. The pub sits a mile-or-so from Celtic Park - the 60,000-seater home ground of the 42-time Scottish title winners - and is a much-loved stopping point for fans attending the match.

Celtic wears its Irish and Catholic heritage very much on its sleeve - or chest to be more exact, as the club's four-leafed clover badge sits on the left breast of its players - which is maybe not surprising for a team founded by a member of a Catholic religious order in 1888.

The two landlords - who remarkably, are childhood friends - represent two of Glasgow's communities in a microcosm, one passionately British and Protestant, the other proud of their Catholic and Irish heritage, a division which mirrors the sectarian lines of Northern Ireland, loyalties forged over centuries of war and strife.

Like their fathers before them, Robert and Tommy's cultural background almost dictated which of the city's two giant clubs they would support. Allegiance to Rangers or Celtic carries a cultural significance above a mere love of the beautiful game for many nestled around the banks of the Clyde.

It is one of the ingredients that makes the meeting of these two teams, over 90 minutes of football, so special. Celtic versus Rangers is one of the fiercest rivalries in world football.

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Filed under: Catholic Church • Protestant • Sports • United Kingdom

soundoff (85 Responses)
  1. Captain America

    Celtic is one of the greatest clubs I've heard of in world sport. Tremendous history.

    September 18, 2011 at 11:40 pm |
  2. Mathilda

    Europe without Christian values = toxic nations that can help no one

    September 18, 2011 at 4:56 am |
    • AGuest9

      Or, places that are better off.

      September 18, 2011 at 9:46 am |
  3. Reality on Europe

    Both Ireland and Scotland, like other European countries, are plagued from the fast growing atheism and immorality. Europe is dying. Europe needs transfusion of healthy blood.

    September 18, 2011 at 3:56 am |
    • AGuest9

      So, Mathilda, you are now Colored Mountains AND Reality on Europe, too? What are there, actually 7 people on this site, and you and herbie use a revolving list of names?

      September 18, 2011 at 8:20 pm |
    • John Richardson

      She goes through several name changes per week

      September 18, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
    • Mathilda

      I have a main user name one at a time until it gets hijacked by atheists. I started using also ap-pro-pri-ate t-i-t-les to catch readers' at-ten-tions. Why don't you decry against your fellow atheists' evil cowardly bullying actions against a lone Christian? You atheists have no morality whatsoever.

      September 19, 2011 at 12:47 am |
    • tallulah13

      Oh those darned evil atheists! When will they learn to leave poor Matilda/et al and her lies alone?

      September 19, 2011 at 12:53 am |
  4. AGuest9

    Bombs? Another peaceful religious experience.

    September 17, 2011 at 7:24 pm |
  5. when

    I have to go so this will be short but I can answer more in depth at a later time. Catholocism is a blend of "some" Christian doctrine and Paganism. You can't have it both ways and claim it's Christian. Briefly, "Mary worship," praying to Mary, praying to Saints, the massive idols...you get the picture, they are tabu in the Bible. Constantine blended the two beliefs. Sorry, folks. I'm late. "Truth" I wasn't trying to offend you. It's hard to discuss things like this on a blog without sounding offensive, but I assure you that was not my intention. Have a good day.

    September 17, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
    • JohnR

      Pretty much all Christian sects have pagan elements.

      September 17, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      When, you can tell them that the Catholic church got polluted 400 years prior to Jesus Christ coming into the world in the flesh. I was raised Catholic. Loved attending church hearing the priest give sermons. However, they never taught Jesus' truth book by book, scripture by scripture like they are suppose to do. At 13, I told my dad that I didn't want to attend church any longer. He then asked that I attend until I was 16. For which I did. We then had the conversation again and my dad asked that if I wasn't going to attend church to read the Bible on my own. For which I did.

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
    • *frank*

      Cool story, bro.

      September 17, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
  6. when

    Genuine Christians=those that put their faith and trust in Jesus.

    September 17, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • AtheistSteve

      Genuinely deluded.

      September 17, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      Genuine Christians=Genuinely brainwashed + genuinely indoctrinated + genuinely insecure + genuinely ignorant + generally uneducated + genuinely close-minded + genuinely judgmental

      Genuine Atheist=Genuinely intelligent + Genuinely open-minded + Genuinely non-judgmental + Genuinely secure + Genuinely educated + genuinely realists

      September 17, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      When, this last generation was brainwashed not to believe in Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. They don't know about the following scriptures written how many years ago to prove what we are saying.

      THE 4 HIDDEN DYNASTIES ushering in satan as the antichrist:

      Educational- [Daniel 1:3-5] (Includes the media)
      Economic- [Daniel 8:23-26]
      Religious- [Revelation 13:11-18]
      Political- [Revelation 17:12-17]

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 3:23 pm |
    • AGuest9

      If your Old Testament reference [Daniel 1:3-5] was true, then why was Jesus as a child, found educating the scribes in the temple, if education is such an issue? Also, wasn't the purpose of Jesus' sermons meant to educate?

      September 17, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
  7. when

    I was once a member of a Buddhist cult but not a true believer in such. Otherwise I would still be there. Your understanding of Christianity shows with the words, "We both did the Christian thing as children." If you truly understood the Bible and Christianity, you would know Catholocism does not equal Christianity.

    September 17, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • AtheistSteve

      "If you truly understood the Bible and Christianity, you would know Catholocism does not equal Christianity."

      Well let's test that shall we? As a catholic I believed that the bible was the word of god and that jesus was sacrificed to save us from sin. Sound familiar? The point is whatever sect of christianity you follow it pretty much amounts to the same old bag of lies. The god of the old testament is fiction and the stories purportedly given about jesus likewise are made up baloney. Miracles don't occur, prayers don't accomplish anything and mankind doesn't possess an immortal soul. It's all just wishful thinking for the feeble minded and the cure is education.

      September 17, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      "If you truly understood the Bible and Christianity, you would know Catholocism does not equal Christianity."

      Okay, so what are they?

      They follow the same bible you do; believe that jesus is the son of the virgin mary-as you do; accept that god created this earth-as you do.

      Catholicism is just another sect....kind of like Presbyterian; Pentecostal are different sects...either way you look at it you all worship the same god.

      Your statement proves how little you know about the bible.

      September 17, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      The Books of Ezra and Nehemiah explain how the priesthood got polluted 400 years before Jesus Christ walked among us. Those 2 books also explains how we can gather back to Jesus Christ and stop being brainwashed by the four dynasties of satan.

      The four Hidden Dynasties that will precede and usher in satan as the antichrist.

      The four hidden dynasties are global tools used by satan in the end times to usher him in as the antichrist imitating the true Christ. They are the coming one world system of the Political, educational, financial, and religious unity. You can see them being put in place now, if you look. They are also referred to as the 'four horns', and they are integral parts of the 1st beast of [Rev 13:1-10] that is ultimately controlled by the second beast of [Revelation 13:11-18]. This second beast is satan as the antichrist. See: Daniel 7:3 & Zechariah 1:18-21.

      THE 4 HIDDEN DYNASTIES ushering in satan as the antichrist:

      Educational- [Daniel 1:3-5] (Includes the media)
      Economic- [Daniel 8:23-26]
      Religious- [Revelation 13:11-18]
      Political- [Revelation 17:12-17]

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
  8. A Letter to Secular Whites

    Have we give you such heavy, unthinkable trauma by demanding you and making you treat us equally now that you revenge on us by forcing g-a-y marriage in our countries? Stop the dirty business in UN and elsewhere! Go down as low as you want but don't involve us. You still think you have to dominate us, don't you? Listen to the white Christians(genuine ones) in your land and stop spreading your diseases. We want everyone's safety but not the damnation from your filth. We pity your children but we are coming to their rescue. – from a colored Christian woman

    September 17, 2011 at 7:27 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      I gather english isn't your native tongue but I'll let that go for the moment to address your idiotic comment instead. Last time I checked you were free to practice your religion without interference. I don't see anyone forcing you to marry same-s3x partners. No it is you dimwits who feel the need to impose your outdated ideals on others who have nothing to do with you. Why do you think you can dictate who should love who and who should marry who. What possible business is it of yours to decide what other people want for themselves. Get a clue and STFU.

      September 17, 2011 at 9:01 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      Kudos AtheistSteve, however I must add it is the 'pity your children' part that gets me...this moron is too oblivious to realize that unlike most christians we raise our children to think for themselves and do not threaten to disown them should be fall from what we believe in. Our children are not the ones who require saving...it is the other way around.

      September 17, 2011 at 9:04 am |
    • JohnR

      Your rights do not include a "right" to deny minorities you don't like THEIR rights.

      September 17, 2011 at 9:49 am |
    • Maybe you could buy a clue, but I doubt it ...

      "Genuine Christians" = only the ones who agree with ME.

      September 17, 2011 at 11:55 am |
    • Magic

      "A Letter to Secular Whites"

      Guess who...?

      September 17, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      A Letter to SW, those brainwashed on this site have never read M a t t h e w 13:36-43.

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      @HS: if you're going to try to defend the brainwashing thing, please defend it using something other than scripture...remember moron, we think your book of lies is trash!

      September 17, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
  9. Mathilda

    Ireland and Scotland – the countries that provided rich cultures to USA though Americans may not remember.

    September 17, 2011 at 6:18 am |
    • Maybe you could buy a clue, but I doubt it ...

      + England + Norway + Sweden + France + Poland + etc., + etc., + etc.

      September 17, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • AGuest9

      So rich that the mules were brought up out of the mines during a disaster before they were.

      September 17, 2011 at 10:23 pm |
    • Magic

      Yes, Mathilda (that was my Irish paternal grandmother's name, btw), some rich culture from Ireland and Scotland all right, including Leprechauns and Banshees, the Loch Ness Monster and a boat-load of other superst.itions - no wonder they were so easily duped by Christianity!

      September 17, 2011 at 10:42 pm |
  10. when

    Will and Dave are doing the d evils work. The d evil has control of their minds and they're blinded to the truth. Hate comes out of their mouths so you know it's in their hearts. I understand your point, Heaven Sent and Herbert, but they do not have the slightest idea that they have been duped. They only know they hate God, which is in and of itself an admission of believing God does exist. Otherwise, why would they feel the need to say horrible things about Him. Why should they even care what their fellow humans believe? We need to remember who's leading them in their spiritual war and pray for the lost to find the truth.

    September 17, 2011 at 1:33 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      considering they don't believe in the devil, this is a complete fail on your behalf

      September 17, 2011 at 8:11 am |
    • herbert juarez

      Unless" truth" is both will and dave,there is no way he can know what they do or do not believe in.

      September 17, 2011 at 8:39 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      considering from their previous posts, it is safe to assume that they don't believe in god (I apologize to both if I have this wrong)...not believing in god would also mean they don't believe in the devil.

      September 17, 2011 at 9:06 am |
    • herbert juarez

      Once again we find truth to be in error.

      September 17, 2011 at 9:10 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      William and David are both stout defenders of reason and everyone would benefit from heeding their wisdom. I find it truly comical when you say they were "duped" when it is clear that it is you and your ilk that have had the proverbial wool pulled over your eyes. Arguing with you over this is nonetheless pointless because your indoctrination is so complete that you will likely go to your grave without ever seeing the light of truth. Your antiquated myths and fantasies are your failing, so keep believing in your gods, devils and desperate wishes for a happy ever-after while we continue to laugh at your foolishness.

      September 17, 2011 at 9:20 am |
    • JohnR

      @HJ The posters in question have been open about their disbelief in any supernatural enti-ties. Instead of disagreeing and criticizing for the sake of disagreeing and criticizing, try thinking before writing.

      September 17, 2011 at 9:52 am |
    • HeavenSent

      When, these non-believers had all 4 of the hidden dynasties of satan working on them as they hovered over them all their young lives.

      THE 4 HIDDEN DYNASTIES ushering in satan as the antichrist:

      Educational- [Daniel 1:3-5] (Includes the media)
      Economic- [Daniel 8:23-26]
      Religious- [Revelation 13:11-18]
      Political- [Revelation 17:12-17]

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Herbert, I rejected your god first and foremost on ethical grounds. Every thuggish dictator has their circle of sycophants who can't imagine why others don't join in the collective butt kissing. But some people of integrity always refuse.

      September 17, 2011 at 4:50 pm |
    • FYI

      @herbert, @HeavenSent, @when, etc. would have been seen often at the Greek & Roman marketplaces a couple of thousand years ago, ranting, raving, threatening, scratching and clawing against the loss of credibility of their ancient gods.

      September 17, 2011 at 5:03 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Oh, humm, written how many years ago?

      2 Timothy 4:1-5

      1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
      2 Preach the word [as contained in God's Bible "revelations"]; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
      3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
      4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
      5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
    • FYI

      HeavenSent
      "Oh, humm, written how many years ago?"

      Long before yours, dear. Long before. And even older, there are the Egyptian gods. And even older, there are the Hindu gods - who *still* "rule" according to whole bunches of folks.

      September 17, 2011 at 7:32 pm |
    • Sid

      herbert juarez is a spineless coward.

      September 17, 2011 at 7:35 pm |
    • herbert juarez

      @sid
      in the game of life it is always good to have someone in left field.Now, siddy you stand there ,and if a ball ever comes your way,toss it back o.k., can you do that?God bless

      September 18, 2011 at 8:11 am |
  11. Ituri

    Maybe the two groups can find unity now that the NFL is requiring hand-done pat-downs of everyone attending games.

    Nothing like a little s e xual mole station to make your weekend out with the family complete, right?

    September 16, 2011 at 10:29 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Unlike you Ituri, Christians don't stay carnal.

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 1:14 am |
  12. David Johnson

    A wise man once said, "Religion poisons everything." – C. Hitchens

    Cheers!

    September 16, 2011 at 6:10 pm |
    • captain america

      A wiser man said david johnson is full of crap.
      Herbert juarez

      September 16, 2011 at 9:10 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Amen Herbert,

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 1:13 am |
    • tallulah13

      Yeah, but David, soccer is evil, anyway. Adding religion only showcases how evil.

      September 17, 2011 at 2:47 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      C Hitchens-an amazing man with a brilliant mind...too soon he will lose his battle but we are a better world because of him. Thank you David for quoting him...he is an inspiration.

      September 17, 2011 at 8:13 am |
    • herbert juarez

      Based on limited contact,truth prevails would be better described as lies abound.Hopefully the unknown atheist guru mentioned will come to a knowledge of God before it is too late.God bless

      September 17, 2011 at 8:37 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      @Herbert: been there, done that and woke up to reality...too bad you can't say the same

      September 17, 2011 at 9:07 am |
    • herbert juarez

      Truth you have never "been there". You are not there now and unless you repent and change your ways you will never be there.God bless

      September 17, 2011 at 9:13 am |
    • JohnR

      Herbert, now you are arguing with someone about their own belief history?

      September 17, 2011 at 9:53 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Herbert fails to recognize that the majority of atheists on this board were once believers including Truth and myself. Perhaps in the near future more children will be raised in secular households and be spared the anguish of having to acquiesce their false beliefs. Only the most stubborn and willfully ignorant will cling to supersti.tion in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

      September 17, 2011 at 10:16 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      In case it has not been noted in the past...AtheistSteve would know better than Herbert what I believe in and what my history with belief is. Our home is just as normal as most without the need for religion involved.

      We both did the christian thing as children...I was protestant; AtheistSteve was catholic.

      September 17, 2011 at 10:25 am |
    • JohnR

      Atheist Steve writes: >>Herbert fails to recognize that the majority of atheists on this board were once believers including Truth and myself.<< Me too!

      September 17, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Though never a regular church goer, I came from a family with deep christian roots on one side, and I grew up believing in the christian mythology.

      September 17, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
    • Magic

      I spent over 40 years as a devout Catholic, from a heavily Catholic family, including a brother who was in the seminary (he left it), a sister who was in the convent (she left it), and 5 cousins by marriage who entered the priesthood (3 left, 2 are still in a cultish, breakaway sect in Spain). I know the delusions and the recovery all too well.

      September 17, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • Thornbill

      I, too, was raised Catholic. I attended Catholic schools all the way through college. It wasn't until my own children were making their confirmations that I took the effort to find out more about religion(s). After years of study, I slowly lost my faith, and now I'm an atheist. But you'll find me in the pew, pretending to be a good Catholic. Hypocrite? Yes, but I prefer the term pacifist. Neither my friends nor family would take kindly to my new status.

      September 17, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
    • tallulah13

      How sad for you, Thornbill, that you must hide your beliefs in order to keep the peace in your own family. It's a classic cult maneuver: Separate believers from those who do not believe the same.

      I keep my beliefs to myself when I am around the more religious members of the family, not because I fear them, but because I really, really don't want them preaching to me.

      September 17, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
    • Thornbill

      Thanks Tallulah13, I appreciate your kind words. LOL at getting preached at. I once hinted at the fact I was questioning my faith, and was deluged by books on apologetics. What I don't understand is why Christians think atheists come to this conclusion lightly. I wish I still believed. I just don't. There was no big event, no rebellion, no loss of morals. Just a lot of reading and weighing the evidence, and even praying.

      September 17, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      I’ll post this again since these atheists never read back to where they post, unless they go in for the juggler to insult a Christian or convert another shaky in their faith. Speaking of shaky in their faith, isn’t that why they left Christianity in the first place (Frown).

      The four Hidden Dynasties that will precede and usher in satan as the antichrist.

      The four hidden dynasties are global tools used by satan in the end times to usher him in as the antichrist imitating the true Christ. They are the coming one world system of the Political, educational, financial, and religious unity. You can see them being put in place now, if you look. They are also referred to as the 'four horns', and they are integral parts of the 1st beast of [Rev 13:1-10] that is ultimately controlled by the second beast of [Revelation 13:11-18]. This second beast is satan as the antichrist. See: Daniel 7:3 & Zechariah 1:18-21.

      THE 4 HIDDEN DYNASTIES ushering in satan as the antichrist:

      Educational- [Daniel 1:3-5] (Includes the media)
      Economic- [Daniel 8:23-26]
      Religious- [Revelation 13:11-18]
      Political- [Revelation 17:12-17]

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 3:41 pm |
    • herbert juarez

      @To the pitiful few "atheists "that claim to have come from "faith".Had you continued your lives in the belief system you claim to have left,you would have arrived before God and been rejected, because you never knew Him.Had you truly met God there is nothing in heaven or earth or beneath the earth that could take you from Him.You are deceiving yourselves.You had to lie to yourself to deny God,but you never met the God you are denying.While you draw breath(His gift of life to you)there is still hope .Try to find God.God bless

      September 17, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
    • Magic

      Thornbill: "But you'll find me in the pew, pretending to be a good Catholic."

      You have my sympathy too. I did the same thing for many years, and perhaps some of the more distant family members and friends still think I'm in. Debate is not my forte, and arguing with irrational, delusional people gets nowhere.

      It's great that you can come here as an outlet, however. Perhaps there are those who are not so far gone and hidebound who will benefit from your wisdom and experience.

      September 17, 2011 at 4:25 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      AtheistSteve, you wrote "Herbert fails to recognize that the majority of atheists on this board were once believers including Truth and myself.

      Answer: You complain about man teaching man's logic at the churches you attended while sprinkling in Jesus' scriptures here and there. Still too lazy to study Jesus' truth on your own.

      Perhaps in the near future more children will be raised in secular households and be spared the anguish of having to acquiesce their false beliefs.

      Answer: You are the end generation. Playing advocate, if the world raised secular households, you'd all kill each other since there would be no breaks among the heathens. (e.g., I want the remote to watch the show I want to watch. Bang, spouse shot dead. Case closed." "Hey, you stole my girlfriend. Bang again. Case Closed". "You didn't pay me the money I lent you for gas. Bang. Case closed".

      Only the most stubborn and willfully ignorant will cling to supersti.tion in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

      Answer: Christians are courageous who follow Jesus Christ's truth. The heathens that reject Jesus' truth are the cowards accepting man's logic as being truth (kissing but towards those in the ways of the world). All lies from satan who you love and follow.

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      @Herbert and HS...you're both absolute fools!!! You think you have the answers in reality you have no clue. How hard is it for you to understand that the book you live by is 2000 years old and has never been updated in accordance with what scientific facts exist??? How you two can live that life being so blind is very sad. You're both best suited for a psych ward where they can help with those delusions.

      September 17, 2011 at 7:25 pm |
    • AGuest9

      I attended catholic schools for 11 years. During the last two years of high school, I began having serious doubts and the more I studied the bible and science, the incompatibility of the two (as well as the bible and church teachings) became apparent. I became agnostic in college, and went back to the church after getting married and having children, but still had serious doubts (I was doing the "good father" thing of raising my children catholic.) 9/11 solved that. After experiencing the death and destruction just miles from where I was working, it pointed out that THIS is what organized religion causes. My earlier agnostic views came rushing back, and the more I began studying the Tao, the Qur'an (because of 9/11), the I,Ching and the Torah (to better understand a close friend, who is Jewish), as well as philosophy of Descartes, Plato, Socrates, Pythagoras, John Locke, Leibniz, Machiavelli, Pascal, Kant, John Stuart Mill, Kurt Gödel and Søren Kierkegaard, as well as First Century world history), the fallacy and inherent danger of all religion became apparent. The recent attacks against the educational system and the scientific community in this country by the anti-science movement and its perpetration of lies is sad and pathetic, and is destroying the economy as well as our way of life.

      September 17, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
  13. John Richardson

    More Christian love!

    Also, I love how some American soccer fans love to pretend that being a soccer fan is some sort of sign of refinement when soccer has attracted some of the most barbaric of all sports fans in many, many parts of the globe.

    September 16, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
    • *frank*

      True. The militant often religious affiliation-infused hooliganism we often see with these rapscallions recalls the church's glory days of schismatic bloodbaths and mini holocausts over such crosseyed balderdash as whether baby jesus was actually god, not really god but kind of, actually god but also not, not god at all, sort of god but sort of different, etc etc.

      September 16, 2011 at 6:10 pm |
    • tallulah13

      I commend you for your use of "rapscallions."

      September 17, 2011 at 2:48 am |
  14. *frank*

    Rangers suck a$$.

    September 16, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  15. William Demuth

    Plus being Irish and an Athiest, I find it quaint to speak of this drivel and ignore the countless numbers of people slaughtered in the battle between the two Christian cults that has raged there for decades.

    Irishman killing Irishman all in the name of Christ.

    Raise a Guiness if you reject the killing of babies for ANY reason.

    September 16, 2011 at 4:51 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      Hey Willy,
      "raged there for decades"
      If only that were true. It's centuries.

      September 16, 2011 at 6:26 pm |
    • herbert juarez

      God put the Irish on an island and gave them round boats ,so it would take a long time for them to get off and annoy the rest of creation.will demouth is a perfect example of why.

      September 16, 2011 at 9:13 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Well, William, those that you follow were thrown out of 108 countries throughout the ages. Mmmhh, my guess you're on the wrong team.

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 1:17 am |
    • William Demuth

      herbert juarez

      Dipstick.

      Any IDEA how many wetbacks died in Juarz just yesterday?

      September 19, 2011 at 8:44 am |
  16. William Demuth

    I am gonna love hearing the Irish and the Scotts trying to figure out how to blame the muslims on this one!

    September 16, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Oh, come now William, when you find the truth you lie about it anyway.

      Amen.

      September 17, 2011 at 1:18 am |
    • William Demuth

      Lokk at the Israeli trying to show how to have peace with its neighbors!

      Laugable

      September 19, 2011 at 8:42 am |
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