By John Blake, CNN
(CNN) –True love doesn’t wait after all.
That’s the implication in the upcoming October issue of an evangelical magazine that claims that young, unmarried Christians are having premarital sex almost as much as their non-Christian peers.
The article in Relevant magazine, entitled “(Almost) Everyone’s Doing It,” cited several studies examining the sexual activity of single Christians. One of the biggest surprises was a December 2009 study, conducted by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, which included information on sexual activity.
While the study’s primary report did not explore religion, some additional analysis focusing on sexual activity and religious identification yielded this result: 80 percent of unmarried evangelical young adults (18 to 29) said that they have had sex - slightly less than 88 percent of unmarried adults, according to the teen pregnancy prevention organization.
The article highlights what challenges abstinence movements face. Movements such as “True Love Waits,” encourage teens to wear purity rings, sign virginity pledges and pledge chastity during public ceremonies.
Yet many of these Christian youths eventually abandon their purity pledges, Relevant’s Tyler Charles concludes in the article. Tyler talked to people like “Maria,” an evangelical woman who said she wanted to wait until marriage to have sex.
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But she said she started having sex with her college boyfriend when she turned 20 because nearly everyone, even most of her Christian friends, were having sex.
It seemed everyone in my life, older and younger, had “done it.” In fact, I waited longer than most people I knew and longer than both of my sisters, even though we were all Christians and came from a good home.
Relevant theorizes about why it’s so hard for so many young Christians to wait, including the saturation of sex in popular culture, the prevalence of pornography and a popular “do what feels good philosophy.”
Yet the article also asks a question that rarely comes up in discussions about abstinence movement. Relevant notes that in biblical times, people married earlier. The average age for marriage has been increasing in the U.S for the last 40 years.
Today, it’s not unusual to meet a Christian who is single at 30 - or 40 or 50, for that matter. So what do you tell them? Keep waiting?
Scot McKnight, author of “The Jesus Creed,” and "One.Faith: Jesus Calls, We Follow," acknowledges that young, single Christians face temptations that their counterparts in the biblical age didn’t face.
He tells Relevant:
Sociologically speaking, the one big difference – and it’s monstrous – between the biblical teaching and our culture is the arranged marriages of very young people. If you get married when you’re 13, you don’t have 15 years of temptation.
So what should a Christian parent or youth pastor do? How do they convince more young Christians to wait until marriage, or should they stop even trying?
One solution: People could start getting married younger again so that there is not such a long time of needless temptation.
Wow. That makes perfect sense. Lets get married as financially unstable college students and try to build healthy marriages while still growing out of adolescence and struggling to further our education. Or I guess we could start skipping that whole college thing and go straight to making a bunch of babies. Not to mention that then we wind up marrying the people we know at 18, 19 or 20 instead of having the extra years to meet NEW people outside of our immediate surroundings. Earlier marriages are a recipe for disaster and would only increase the divorce rate.
16 with consent with parents. its a choice. and btw, ppl have been saying tht crap for years. Its the modern drugs and can be scientifically explained.
Miso – It's called work. If you get married younger maybe college age, you will most definitely be financially unstable. You may actually have to work for a living AND go to school. Been there done the early marriage thing – best choice I ever made, and yes it was no gravy train. But the whole temptation thing – pretty much gone at 20 yrs old.
By the way – that means I do agree with you Amy
As a Christian teenager i can tell you that its very hard to believe in things that others say is not real. There are times when i want to throw in the towel and give in, but if i don't believe in anything, whats the point of doing anything on this earth? if you live for your own needs, and expectations. God is not evil, or petty. But he loves us, and the whole point of being Christian is to have faith, to believe in something you cant see. Can you see air? No, but u know its there. So is it hard to say no to making love to my boyfriend, whom i do love very much? yes. but life is hard, and full of challenges and your life is not measured on what challenges you face but how you deal with those challenges, because those challenges get harder and harder as life goes on, and how easy you give into things says a lot. And that's why we have God to lead us and help us in those times. and sometimes we don't see God until we think we need him the most.
THANKYOU. VERY WELL WRITTEN AND IN LINE WITH THE WORD OF GOD. I HOPE MANY WILL READ AND MOST WILL AGREE. LET'S STOP FOLLOWING AND START LEADING BY EXAMPLE..................THE PERFECT EXAMPLE......JESUS CHRIST!
Air can be measured, viewed, heated, frozen, broken down into elementary particles. Equating faith to air sounds like the argument of the ignorant and the devout.
Take your Air-faith into outerspace. It will be interesting to see how well you breathe
Anonymous, you are awesome! I have two little boys– age 1 and 2. I often fear the world that I am raising them in. Thank you for the reminder that "through Him all things are possible." I pray that my boys will grow up to be like you. I will keep you in my prayers. I ask you to do the same for me and my family. God bless you.
@Anonymous – dude (gal), you are concentrating on a wrong thing. Being a teenager, what you said you are, pay more attention to your academics. It's the time you can lay foundation for your future studies and career. The fairy tales wont help you getting into college, nor they will finding your place in this society. Work hard and believe in yourself, not the sky-fairy.
Oh, and if along the way you have fun experiencing things beyond your studies there is no harm in that, it's only a part of growing up.
I married at 23 and waited until marriage (and I'm not much older than that now). So did my husband. And according to the research at least 1 of every 20 young adult christians do too. That's actually quite a few people sticking it out. Now that I'm married, I'm so glad I did!
You state "how easy you give into things says a lot". I agree. You must choose a life oriented towards faith and belief or a life where you accept truth. The closest thing to truth is science. The EVIDENCE points toward biological evolution and an evolving universe starting from the big bang. Some, if not most of the stories in the bible is obviously myth. if the bible is mythological, then that evidence indicates the biblical god does not exist.
It is hard to accept. Now there are hard questions. What is morality? How should I lead my life? Etc.
You have accepted the easy path of faith and rejected the much harder path towards a search for truth via evidence. The benefits of being part of the big in-group are yours; you are not an independent outsider.
It has been shown that people that fool themselves are happier. Good Luck.
Christians are screwed up in the head.
There's many reasons to do things on this Earth that have nothing to do with faith in god. Many humanists and the religious do things to help make life on earth easier and better for other people, and you don't need to believe in god to believe in doing what's right to make this world a better place.
Hold onto your faith if it helps you. Just don't accuse those of us who reject it of leading meaningless lives.
Given that this issue is a hotbed of hypocrisy within the church, some clear thinking is in order. I just read a book called Honestly, by Johnnie Moore that was a breath of fresh air. It asks the question, "what if we really lived what we say we believe?" Check it out: http://dld.bz/ansdr
My teenage nephew has played on various sports teams, some fundamentalist Christian, some not. His take? The "Christian" kids do all of the things the other kids do, they just feel guilty about it. His "Christian" teammates sleep with their girlfriends, but they're convinced they're going to the devil. How sad that these kids have to feel that their basic humanity will bring them to perdition. Time for anyone of faith to stop allowing a bunch of fundamentalist zealots hijack the term "Christian." Nothing Christ-like about scaring these kids half to death over what comes naturally.
When Jesus was resurrected back to life he began appearing to those who were close to him, first the women then some of the disciples and his earthly mother. There was a disciple by the name of Thomas who said he would not believe unless he saw Jesus for himself and saw the actual holes in his hands and the wound in his side. Jesus said to him "Thomas, you believe because you have seen me, but blessed are those who have not seen me and believe.
Jesus is Hope. He is Hope for something better beyond this earth and these frail human bodies of flesh and bone. Faith is hope for what is promised in that.
How could any of you live your life without hope for something better ? Jesus brings love, healing, compassion, mercy, righteousness and righteous judgement (those of you who have been through our earthly judicial systems should appreciate that). He is Prince of Peace, Lord of Lord, and King of Kings.
Many people fall head over heals for rappers, rock stars, country music stars, actor/actresses, attractive people, and charismatic politicians. Yet they are all frail humans like us, and all go to the dust like the rest of us.
I would rather follow someone who knew how to create this whole fascinating Universe, from the stars and galaxies in the sky, the beautiful plants and animals, the smallest molecule, "thinking human beings", a beautiful sky, an awesome ocean, beautiful beaches and mountains....God is awesome. And how about Jesus. He died and raised himself back to life again.
Can you do that ? The antichrist is going to use deceptive signs and wonders to make you think that he can do things.
Those of you who fall for "cheap idol worship" may very well be deceived by the antichrist, who will turn around and create the greatest destruction that has ever been on this earth since it's creation. Mankind will suffer greatly. The only way to be delivered from that evil one and all the evil that will prevail on this earth is through our Heavenly father.
He just wants to protect you and love you, the same as a hen nestles her chicks under her wings. Don't run away from him. Run to him. For if you seek him with all of your heart, soul, and mind and remain faithful to him, he will come and make his home with you and you will have your home with him. That is wonderful.
America tires of the whining, prone to lashing-out in self-righteous-collapse, loquscious mutterings of these disturbed psychos. We, however, apparently practice what they preach and abstain from licentenious judgement and subsequent condemnation. Till now.
"How could any of you live your life without hope for something better?"
I enjoy my life without any hope of something better. Why do you need it?
Sounds like you are the one falling for cheap idols. Why do you feel that a creator in and of itself means a particular deity?
To seriously quote anything from the Old Testament is absurd. How can we take any of it seriously when we see abundant evidence of how vindictive and petty God was. Several passages talk about how a man shames God for being so nasty, so God changes "his" mind. Or the numerous passages where God tells the chosen to kill all the men, women and children they see in a captured town, except for the women who appeal to you – those you can keep.
God is never vindictive or petty. He does punish sin. However, his ways are above our ways, and his thoughts above out thoughts. You can't pick up the bible, read through a couple of passages and fully understand what you are reading. You need to study the whole bible. You misquoted the Old Testament by the way. God never said kill all the women except those that appeal to you. To get a better handle on God, study the New Testament on Jesus Christ and his teachings, as Jesus was the same as the father and the father the same as Jesus Christ, they are "one' in agreement, and spiritually integrated.
You will never understand God if you keep barking at him. So start studying but most importantly start praying sincerely from the heart.
The Old Testament and the god-approved atrocities:
•Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden calf.
•Numbers 31: After killing all men, boys and married women among the Midianites, 32,000 virgins remain as booty for the Israelites. (If unmarried girls are a quarter of the population, then 96,000 people were killed.)
•Joshua: ◦Joshua 8: 12,000 men and women, all the people of Ai, killed.
◦Joshua 10: Joshua completely destroys Gibeon ("larger than Ai"), Makeddah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir. "He left no survivors."
◦Joshua 11: Hazor destroyed. [Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews (1987), estimates the population of Hazor at ?> 50,000]
◦TOTAL: if Ai is average, 12,000 x 9 = 108,000 killed.
•Judges 1: 10,000 Canaanites k. at Battle of Bezek. Jerusalem and Zephath destroyed.
•Judges 3: ca. 10,000 Moabites k. at Jordan River.
•Judges 8: 120,000 Midianite soldiers k. by Gideon
•Judges 20: Benjamin attacked by other tribes. 25,000 killed.
•1 Samuel 4: 4,000 Isrealites killed at 1st Battle of Ebenezer/Aphek. 30,000 Isr. k. at 2nd battle.
•David: ◦2 Samuel 8: 22,000 Arameans of Damascus and 18,000 Edomites killed in 2 battles.
◦2 Samuel 10: 40,000 Aramean footsoldiers and 7,000 charioteers killed at Helam.
◦2 Samuel 18: 20,000 Israelites under Absalom killed at Ephraim.
•1 Kings 20: 100,000 Arameans killed by Israelites at Battle of Aphek. Another 27,000 killed by collapsing wall.
•2 Chron 13: Judah beat Israel and inflicted 500,000 casualties.
•2 Chron 25: Amaziah, king of Judah, k. 10,000 from Seir in battle and executed 10,000 POWs. Discharged Judean soldiers pillaged and killed 3,000.
•2 Chron 28: Pekah, king of Israel, slew 120,000 Judeans
•TOTAL: That comes to about 1,283,000 mass killings specifically enumerated in the Old Testament/Torah.
The New Testament has only one major atrocity, that of god committing filicide assuming you believe in this Christian mumbo jumbo. Said atrocity should be enough to vitiate all of Christianity.
- Exekiel 25:17 “I will carry out great vengeance on them and punish them in my wrath. Then they will know that I am the Lord, when I take vengeance on them.”
@sheila: Here’s the quote. Your right, Moses (god’s man representative on earth) said it. And he didn’t say keep the attractive ones. He said keep the little girls (which is of course even nastier)
And Moses said unto them “Have ye saved all the women alive?... Now therefore Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known a man by lying with him, but all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves” Num 31:1-2, 9-11, 14-18
YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE !!! (from p. 26)
From the Guttmacher Insti-tute:
FIRST-YEAR CON-TRACEPTIVE FAILURE RATES
Percentage of women experiencing an unplanned pregnancy
Pill (combined) 8.7
Tubal sterilization 0.7
Male condom 17.4
Periodic abstinence 25.3
Ovulation Method 3.0
No method 85.0"
The failure of the Pill as noted above results in one million unplanned pregnancies every year because women basically fail to take it once a day as prescribed on the box in big letters. Added se-x ed in schools would be great but the larger issue is stupidity and/or basic literacy.
The failure of the male condom results in another one million unplanned pregnancies every year basically because many men, as per Guttmacher, fail to use them even though they have them in their pockets or billfolds. The issue then is stupidity and/or being in a drunk/drugged state before and during inte-rcourse.
And the annual abortion rate in the USA is?? ~1,000,000 as per the CDC.
I know a 27 year old Christian woman who won't take a man into her bedroom. Also I know a 30 year old Christian woman who is a virgin. Neither of these girls are happy because they can't find a man.
Well of course. If you can test drive 90% of the cars your interested in buying, why would you buy a car they won’t let you try out? I would suspect something is wrong with it
At the end of this article, the writer asks "So what should a Christian parent or youth pastor do? How do they convince more young Christians to wait until marriage, or should they stop even trying?"
My answer: "These words, which I am ordering you today, are to be on your heart; and you are to teach them carefully to your children. You are to talk about them when you sit at home, when you are traveling on the road, when you lie down and when you get up." (Deuteronomy 6:6-7)
Christians should understand that the law of God is for their benefit, and they should stop teaching that the law has been "done away with." Is it no wonder that there is as much sin inside the church as there is in the world at large?
Just turn them over to the local priest. By the time he gets through with them they will be to traumatized to want to fool around
Parents ought to encourage their children to marry sooner, then, rather than later, if they wish to raise their kids along the religous lines. Most people go through serious relationships between the ages of 18-25 anyway; I don't see any reason why marriage shouldn't be something sought after from a younger age.
The problem with marrying earlier is that we may not be fully mature to make that decision at an earlier age. Rushing into marriage too soon often leads to marrying the wrong person which leads to either divorce or misery or both. How many times does the average person break up with someone from the age of, say 15 and the time they marry? How many of those were they sure were "The One" only to find out they weren't.
The greatest single contributing factor to family poverty is the age of the parents when they have kids. Younger = poorer ( kids being a primary symptom of marriage)
"The problem with marrying earlier is that we may not be fully mature to make that decision at an earlier age. Rushing into marriage too soon often leads to marrying the wrong person which leads to either divorce or misery or both."
Fair point, but the fact is that the modern idea of self-discovery is overrated. The fact is that people have married young for millennia and be able to handle the responsibility of being an adult; it seems to me that we are not mature enough because we choose not to as a society, not because we can't.
"The greatest single contributing factor to family poverty is the age of the parents when they have kids."
Fair point. However, we don't have to go as far as to marrying in the early teens like people used to do centuries ago. For a compromise, why not shift the average from the late 20s to the early 20s, which can reduce the risk of divorce and poverty significantly while also avoiding many of the negative side effects of marrying later?
Besides, this is only a problem because of the fragmented structure of the American family anyway. In all societies traditionally, the concept of "family" is much broader, in the sense that there is a larger support network that consists of relatives and other members of the community who might not even be related by blood or marriage. In such a system, poverty would be much less of an issue because a safety net actually exists.
Found nice to share with you;
ONE. Give people more than they expect and do it cheerfully.
TWO. Marry a man/woman you love to talk to. As you get older, their
conversational skills will be as important as any other.
THREE. Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you
FOUR. When you say, 'I love you,' mean it.
FIVE.. When you say, 'I'm sorry,' look the person in the eye..
SIX. Be engaged at least six months before you get married.
SEVEN. Believe in love at first sight.
EIGHT. Never laugh at anyone's dreams. People who don't have dreams don't
NINE.... Love deeply and passionately. You might get hurt but it's the
only way to live life completely.
TEN.. In disagreements, fight fairly. No name calling.
ELEVEN. Don't judge people by their relatives.
TWELVE. Talk slowly but think quickly.
THIRTEEN. When someone asks you a question you don't want to answer, smile and ask, 'Why do you want to know?'
FOURTEEN. Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk.
FIFTEEN. Say 'bless you' when you hear someone sneeze.
SIXTEEN. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
SEVENTEEN. Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others;
and Responsibility for all your actions.
EIGHTEEN. Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship.
NINETEEN. When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct it.
TWENTY. Smile when picking up the phone. The caller will hear it in your
TWENTY- ONE. Spend some time alone.
That's a good list, Muneef.
Another good list:
The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
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Are you ready?
Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.
The First Five of the 77 Branches:
"1. Belief in Allah"
aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your cleansing neurons.
"2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."
Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".
"3. To believe in the existence of angels."
A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.
"4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."
Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.
Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.
Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.
"5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)
Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.
Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!
Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.
Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..
@ Reality: “Today we call them for-tune tellers.” NO, NO, NO! Today we call them televangelists
Congratulations on joining the rest of the human race. Duh.
No true Christian wants anything bad to happen to the non-Christians...not at the present anyhow.
Mom of Three can you tell me what kind of nut writes stuff like that???!!! Relgion is scary stuff. lol
Seems obvious to me. People used to wait until they got married.. at 14.
Hey, it's like rolling dice in the dark. No one knows and no one can find out. moral to this story dont roll in the dark.
No true Christian wants anything bad to happen to the non-Christians...not at the present anyhow. See Christians must be in agreement with God and his teachings. God does not desire he harm, destruction, or death of anyone. HOWEVER, there is the LARGE PRINT...Continue sinning and you will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Does that mean you get to stay on earth and play video games ? No. There is a point where God draws a line. He didn't make "rules" to make "rules".
See, he created everything, so he knows how everything works and what makes for a successful existence and what makes for a suffering existence. Every sin has it's price, both now and when God returns. Even the Christians are judged by God. Even the Jewish people will have to walk under his rod, and either they will make it, or they won't.
God rains on the just and the unjust. He provides for all. He desires all to have salvation from this life and the evils of this world. He teaches you how to stay on a good path so you have better results in your life and for those around you, society and the world. But some people live in selfish sin and could care less how it affects anyone or anything else.
But there is a price. Jesus Christ paid a price, his own life, so that you can be free from sin and death and live a life in eternity in a beautiful peace that transcends all understanding. No one disagrees with anyone else in God's Kingdom.
The Holy Father (God not the human Pope), Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit are all in agreement. That is what it means when the bible teaches they are "one". The father is in the son, the son in the father, they will make their home with us if we put away our sins, and remain faithful. All will live in agreement. Can you imagine that ? No war, no strife, no arguments, no he said she said, no human contentions, or spiritual contentions of any kind.
Oh mankind talks about Utopia, and world "peace"...all a lie. It will not happen under the rule of mankind. Funny, you scoff at the teachings of God, but you have no problem living under the rules of Satan who could care less about your life and your eternity.
Why do you like Satan's rules ? Do you think it gets you what you want ? God knows what is best for you. Trust him, and your life will be blessed.
"Why do you like Satan's rules ?'
Nonsensical question. Christians obviously don't like Satan's rule and non-believers don't believe in Satan anyway.
And you can have all the free ice cream you want! And the streets are gold! And there are unicorns! That fart glitter!
Oh You again. Sheila it's bible thumpers like you that really just turn my stomach to religion. If some dude walked around in this day and age in a dress preaching we'd call him nuts. Oh wait there are lots of them out there. How do you know they are NOT the real son of god?? **gasp**
Sheila, there would no be no atheists if there were proof of god. There is no proof of any god, much less yours. You have no proof heaven, and no proof of hell. You have no proof of any afterlife. Some may say that there is proof of Christ's existence (I haven't heard of anything that stands up to scrutiny) however, there is absolutely no proof he was crucified, that he rose again, or that he was the son of god. Therefore, all you are doing is judging others using bronze age mythology.
One of the many nice things about being an atheist is that not only do I not believe in your god, I don’t believe in your Satan either. I don’t need rules from any supernatural source. I have my own set of ethics that help me live a positive life. For example they would never allow me to do the kind of lying, cheating and stealing so common among televangelists and mega church pastors.
tallulah13, I have to disagree with you on that. There is proof of global warming, there are still people who don't believe it exists. People will believe what they want, regardless of proof, or evidence to the contrary. I think it's too bad that so many peoples notion of Christianity is people being judgmental bible thumpers. That's not what TRUE Christianity is about. Christianity is based on love. Love of God, love of others regardless of what they believe.. 1 John 4 says love one another, and if you don't, you don't know God, because God is love. So the so-called Christians you see on TV, or online spewing hatred and judging others, truely don't understand what Christianity is about. If they did, they wouldn't rush to spew hatred at every turn.
I agree with you. I am a born again Christian. I just wanted to support my sister in Christ.
As for these negative replies, the Bible says that any who don't believe in God are fools and not one of them does good. Not one. Some people say with their lips that they are Christians but their heart is far away from God. And Jesus will say, "I never knew you!"
As for those that don't believe in the devil, well, he's sure fooled you. That's what he wants you to believe so you'll keep on doing wrong. There'll be a rude awakening when you die!
I see Christians all around me that judge and do wrong, but I can't let that shape my ideas about God. Man is the one how fails and makes mistakes, not God. When you have a relationship with God, you understand Him better and He gives you wisdom and knowledge about Himself that gives peace of mind and heart.
You guys can believe anything you want but me and my family will worship our Almighty God, the creator of Heaven and Earth. And we'll believe in His Holy Word and His precious Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.
We might suffer and be condemned for a little while on this planet. Go ahead and mock and laugh while you still can, but that day is coming when the earth will be burned away and everything in it and all will be judged.
Yes, no body has come back to tell of an afterlife but nobody has comeback either to say that there wasn't one.
I believe in Jesus even though the message of the cross might seem foolish to others, I still believe in Jesus and what he did for me. I still believe in the Bible and it's message of truth.
God is like the wind, you can't see Him but those that have been called can feel Him in their hearts. And those that harden their hearts and push the truth away will feel His wrath like a storm that will destroy them. Why? Because they love sin over righteousness. They choose to do what's wrong over what's right. We're all guilty but God offers repentance. You choose life or death. God doesn't make that choice for you. Jesus = Life, another chance and hope
Thank you, Lord, for loving me and saving me!
Yet, Ray: There is still no proof of god. Any god.
Alexandrine: As I said to Ray, there is no proof. Until you provide evidence that your god exists, you are simply barking at the moon.
"The Holy Father (God not the human Pope), Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit are all in agreement"
If all three in agreement, why do you need three?
tallulah, you're absolutely right, there is no proof. But that wasn't my point. I'm not going to argue with you about whether there is a god or not, you have you're beliefs, I have mine. I was simply pointing out that people often believe what they want in spite of proof. I take comfort from my faith. I have a support group in my church friends that I can count on no matter what. I take solace in prayer. If it turns out that I'm wrong, and I die and there is no God, so be it. At least I got to spend my life surrounded by people who loved me and would back me up no matter what. If that's barking at the moon, I'll take it any day of the week.
@Sheila: “ God does not desire he harm, destruction, or death of anyone”
However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them
–Deuteronomy 20:13, 16
Hey, Ray (better late than never), I have friends and family who love me and support me and back me up as well. And I would do the same for them. You don't need a church for that.
However, I do respect that you take comfort from your church. I was probably a bit harsh in my response to you, but I have been called all sorts of things by christians and sometimes I get defensive. Anyway, I'm sorry, and I'm also sorry that you probably will never read this.
I appreciate the apology, and I did in fact read it. I apologize on behalf of all Christians that you've been called horrible things. The bible says that we are supposed to love one another. It also says that we're all sinners, and that when it comes down to it nobody is in a position to judge anyone, because we all make mistakes. Most Christians agree with that, but they aren't the ones you hear about.. Squeaky wheel getting the grease and all that. But again, I'm sorry your experience has been negative. That is not what Christianity is about. Thanks again for the apology. I appreciate it.
“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
"There is no God. There's no heaven. There's no hell. There are no angels. When you die, you go in the ground, the worms eat you."
- Madalyn Murray O’Hair
I wonder if David Roland Waters (a fellow atheist) was comforted by the fact that "There is no God... there is no hell" when he was murdering Ms. O'Hair and dismembering her body.
You are going to be so sad when you find all us pagans in Heaven with you.
Didn't you hear Ms. O'Hair? There is no heaven – just the cold ground and lots of worms.
On a side note, did you know that "Pagan" originally was a word for "Hick" or "Redneck"? Interesting
See ya in the dirt buddy.
". . . man dies and is laid away; indeed he breathes his last and where is he? As water disappears from the sea, and a river becomes parched and dries up, so man lies down and does not rise. Till the heavens are no more, they will not awake nor be roused from their sleep" Job:14:10-12.
"Gabba Gabba, we accept you. We accept you. One of us." – Joey Ramone.
80% if those interviewed told the truth, the remaining 20% lied. Same goes for drugs too.
no surprise, humans are being humans by doing it
What defines "being human"? Doing what humans do? If that's the case, murdering people or molesting children is just "being human." After all, its what humans do.
I suspect Ken's no fun in the sack. Too busy being sanctimonious.
In this generation, where rock and roll and Hollywood have made their way into the church and sound biblical teaching is tossed out and replace with a feel good gospel; is it no wonder that kids and adults are confused with how they should live and what actions are to practiced while professing Jesus as their Lord? When they are taught that there is nothing wrong with how the world lives, why should they feel the need to act and think different? The soft preaching in the 70s and 80s were ruining our churches back then and our kids today are feeling the effects of it. It's hard for kids and young adults to separate themselves from the worldly influences especially when their parents never had enough conviction about what they believed to separate from it themselves. The church needs to wake up.
Yes. It needs to wake up and stop attempting to instill guilt and shame in people for having desires and needs. It needs to wake up and help people to accept themselves as God made them and stop trying to force them to be something they were never meant to be. It needs to quite placing blame and stop judging others and start helping those who are in need of shelter, food, and comfort.
Why don't you get on that?
Always thought Christian meant "Christ Like" and don't think the behavior described fits that description. Just saying u r a Christian doesn't make u one.
I blame rock and roll.
Hey, why not blame Hollywood, too? After all, doing so means we can pin the blame on SOMETHING or SOMEONE not like us! That's all the zealots need to do! As long as people just like themselves are not at fault, they can feel superior and self-righteous! All to the good!
Hypocrites, every one of them.
What a nice report. I’m delighted to hear that churches are becoming kinder, gentler and more compassionate and less domineering and dogmatic. If they keep this up long enough they might get back some of the people who left the church in revulsion
Actually, Robert, believers need to wake up and understand that there is not a single shred of proof that god exists.
Hats off to people of faith, however lets make a modern edit to the Bible...it should say "be safe, here's how this works, and always protect you and your partner".
You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. (Deut 4:2)
So how should people handle the contradictions and mistakes?
There aren't any , the problems arise when idiots try to one up God.Pretending to be wise they take poor translations, paraphrases, verses out of context or misunderstandings and attempt to create an alternate meaning.If you know God you will know His Word if you Don't you won't.God bless
Which is the TRUE Bible? With more than 20 English versions that don't agree with each other, which one is CORRECT?
Neither Hebrew or Greek translate easily into English.Most Bibles are relatively accurate in English ,but the original languages are available for more intense study.Paraphrases are not meant to be accurate translations.God bless
I keep several versions on hand as sometimes it takes a few to get the picture. Once you have the picture there really is not that much difference in translations. Then on occassion I call a few people yet they all seem to fit together after the dust settles
None of them are likely to be true 'cause they all talk about a being that most likely does not exist.
A good part of today's problems can be attributted to the fact there no longer is a right and wrong in any area of life.
Prove your assertion, Vermont. Go ahead. I'll wait.
Aww. You're so cute when you're p7ssed, herbie the juarez.
Who are you to change God's word ? Do you think you know more than he who created everything, including your body ?
Everyone "changes God's words" since everyone spins the Bible the way they want. It's full of inconsistencies and errors in addition to the basic morals.
Sheila: “Quit sinning and GET MARRIED “ that’s right. No one deserves to be happy all of their life
If you want to be taken seriously, Sheila, provide proof.
The reason they are "not waiting" is because Christianity has NEVER stopped people from having intimate relations. See that? NEVER. It is natural, biologically speaking, to have relations in the teens and learn how to act intimately. To pretend someones religion can trump biology is pure propoganda, and has never been true.
You can go to a religious nation with the dea th penalty as punishment, and still find most of them having relations.
It's a matter of faith and obedience for what is good and best for yourself. God knows better than we what is best. Saying you can't "Control your Biology" is a bunch of bunk. You can control what you choose to do with your biology.
You don't have to "use your biology" with someone out of wedlock. Quit sinning and GET MARRIED !
A bunch of religious nonsense. Show me WHERE exactly I said we should be "ruled by our biology?" Nowhere, thats where.
But the reality is that our biology is an intrical part of ourselves as people, as a society, and it WILL impact our behavior. Young people WILL have intimate relations. This is a fact. Telling young people they have to resist everything they are physically and marry the first person they happen to be intimate with, its utter bunk. Its a near guarantee of failed relationships on top of being almost impossible to adhere to.
In 2000 years you have NEVER stopped people from being intimate. Screeching about marriage now and thinking it means squat is inherently trying the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different response. The definition of insanity.
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