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Why young Christians aren't waiting anymore
A young Christian at an purity rally spreads the word.
September 27th, 2011
08:39 AM ET

Why young Christians aren't waiting anymore

By John Blake,  CNN

(CNN) –True love doesn’t wait after all.

That’s the implication in the upcoming October issue of an evangelical magazine that claims that young, unmarried Christians are having premarital sex almost as much as their non-Christian peers.

The article in Relevant magazine, entitled “(Almost) Everyone’s Doing It,” cited several studies examining the sexual activity of single Christians. One of the biggest surprises was a December 2009 study, conducted by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, which included information on sexual activity.

While the study’s primary report did not explore religion, some additional analysis focusing on sexual activity and religious identification yielded this result: 80 percent of unmarried evangelical young adults (18 to 29) said that they have had sex - slightly less than 88 percent of unmarried adults, according to the teen pregnancy prevention organization.

The article highlights what challenges abstinence movements face. Movements such as “True Love Waits,” encourage teens to wear purity rings, sign virginity pledges and pledge chastity during public ceremonies.

Yet many of these Christian youths eventually abandon their purity pledges, Relevant’s Tyler Charles concludes in the article. Tyler talked to people like “Maria,” an evangelical woman who said she wanted to wait until marriage to have sex.

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But she said she started having sex with her college boyfriend when she turned 20 because nearly everyone, even most of  her Christian friends, were having sex.

Maria:

It seemed everyone in my life, older and younger, had “done it.” In fact, I waited longer than most people I knew and longer than both of my sisters, even though we were all Christians and came from a good home.

Relevant theorizes about why it’s so hard for so many young Christians to wait, including the saturation of sex in popular culture, the prevalence of pornography and a popular “do what feels good philosophy.”

Yet the article also asks a question that rarely comes up in discussions about abstinence movement. Relevant notes that in biblical times, people married earlier. The average age for marriage has been increasing in the U.S for the last 40 years.

Today, it’s not unusual to meet a Christian who is single at 30 - or 40 or 50, for that matter. So what do you tell them? Keep waiting?

Scot McKnight, author of “The Jesus Creed,” and "One.Faith: Jesus Calls, We Follow," acknowledges that young, single Christians face temptations that their counterparts in the biblical age didn’t face.

He  tells Relevant:

Sociologically speaking, the one big difference – and it’s monstrous – between the biblical teaching and our culture is the arranged marriages of very young people. If you get married when you’re 13, you don’t have 15 years of temptation.

So what should a Christian parent or youth pastor do? How do they convince more young Christians to wait until marriage, or should they stop even trying?

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Church • Culture & Science • Culture wars

soundoff (5,770 Responses)
  1. ME

    Who cares, you all suck, and I dont care about graMMER.

    November 27, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
  2. AnDrade

    @ nonbeliever. For someone who is so "rational", I find it odd that you lump all Christians into the same category. Not all Christians are fundamentalists who believe everything in the Bible happened exactly as stated and aren't metaphors for something else or taken out of context over the centuries by error-prone or malicious people. Also, I am a Christian who is not in a bubble and believes in both science and religion. They compliment and are not mutually exclusive. It takes a person who thinks outside of the confines of either believing or not believing to do this. You are just as irrational as the same type of Christians you detest. Someone can also point out the irrationality of atheism in this manner: "The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. makes perfect sense." You have to accept that both science and religion have their limitations because of one thing: the finite human mind. Be open to the possibility that some being is smarter than yourself.

    November 27, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      @Andrade-

      Obviously you read very little of anything I've posted in this thread, so I'll catch you up. I'm not an atheist, I'm very much agnostic. I cannot and will not deny the idea or belief of a greater being than ourselves being involved in natural flow of the universe. However, I do not believe a single shred of it flows from christianity. I do lump all christians into the same category, because they deserve to be there. Unfortunately, based on your self defining ideology of being a christian, you simply aren't. I hate to be the one to break that to you, but if you pick and choose what to believe in the bible and you follow the majority of it as a metaphorical reference then you most certainly are not a follower of christ. I believe the majority of self proclaimed christians on here would agree with me, as well as some google articles I'm sure you could take a few minutes to locate. And I most definitely do not detest christians, my bestman in my wedding was a christian I went to seminary with. I do not hate the people, just the uneducated followers who refuse to take five minutes to study for themself. The one thing I do agree with in your comment is the 'finite human mind.' Could not agree more. Which is why christianity to me is even more laughable. That man professes the ability to size god up in less than a million words or that they can have it all figured out based on a easily fallible book is disheartening.

      November 28, 2011 at 8:02 am |
    • RamboMan

      @AnDrade – Very well said! You are right on! That is the most intelligent reply I have read – thank you!
      @nonbeliever – It is not a sin to drink alcohol and it does not go against Christianity. Jesus made the finest Wine out of water for wedding guests to enjoy. Beer and wine are gifts from God to enjoy responsibly and in moderation. Drinking becomes a sin when you drink too much and abuse yourself or others.
      @Rick – It is not based on what I say God has done for us, it is based on what God says and did for us. I am not the voice of God, I am just one of his many messengers. I did not make the Good News, I can only spread it.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      @RamboMan

      What in the world does alcohol have to do with anything that I said? Please, if you are going to respond, at least have a well thought out and formulated response. I don't see the need to respond to you if you don't.

      December 1, 2011 at 9:55 am |
  3. Peikovianii

    Persistent references by agitprop hustlers to blame Jews for all evils suffered by blacks is a game to keep black voters where others want them. Jews haven't sought converts, haven't had worldwide empires, haven't taken the abusive stance in history regarding black people that major religions, armies and trading monopolies have done. Jews are merely 1%-2% of the American population today, even though Jews have been in America since before the British were in New York. Jews were active in the civil rights era on behalf of black self-determination. Jews are multi-ethnic and multi-racial. Israel brought-in thousands of black Jews from Ethiopia. Get your history straight.

    November 27, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
    • AnDrade

      I would like to kindly suggest that you consider the discrimination against non-white Jews in Israel-even against the Ethiopian Jews that you speak of. They are often not allowed into Israel like white Jews. While there are many articles and resources out there that discuss this, I'll leave you with one: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/bookreviews/4838496/Israels-humiliating-discrimination-against-Arab-Jews.html

      November 27, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
    • Nance

      AnDrade – okay, took you up on your suggestion to reference that link. Your family came to Israel, like many other Arab, European, Asian, etc. families as ALL Jews were urged to return to their homeland (still are). However, your point becomes rather mute when Rachael Shabi's whole point of view is that of incorporating the upbringing she had as an Iraqi jew, who no doubt the practice of Judiasm had been influenced by the country in which she (and others as mentioned) lived. There is no difference when discussing Christianity and the influence Constantine had on it in incorporating the traditions of the Romans into it to appease everyone. So, to the point, Israel is attempting to go by the rule of law as laid out to them. They are dedicating ALOT into researching the old ways and returning to that, as well they should just as Christianity should today. Perhaps, if Rachael were more interested in learning what God actually said and intended and less about what pleasant thoughts of her childhood she had within the washed down and thereby Muslim acceptable religion she grew up with, she would know that it's not where one comes from, or the color of ones' skin but rather the degree of dedication to the knowledge of Judiasm as originally preserved and recovering that which was lost as opposed to a one size fits all Judiasm! Think when you read something and know what's going on regarding the subject for crying out loud!

      November 27, 2011 at 7:18 pm |
    • AnDrade

      @ Nance. Actually, my point does not become irrelevant all. I didn't realize that the assumption (without knowing) that someone's Jewish status is compromised because of nationality or skin color could, in your view, excuse the harsh and humiliating treatment of said nonwhite Jews. IIt sounds like you are assuming that some Jews are correctly assumed to have the "wrong" type of Judaism based on the way that they look or where they come from. . They must wear stickers on their heads that denote this (sarcasm). Besides, if you were to know anything about the subject, you would know that the Arab Jews were there long before the European Jews came in there and wanted to return to your so-called original practice of Judaism. Whose land was it anyway and who is invading in this case? Surely, you know the state of Israel was established for the European Jews. And why are you referencing my family? Nowhere in my comment did I say I was Jewish or had family in Israel! Maybe you are the one who doesn't know what they are talking about. Your comment is unfounded.

      November 28, 2011 at 2:55 am |
  4. rtbd

    Mirosal – if you are not a believer, why are you all over these faith posts on CNN? Why do you care?

    November 27, 2011 at 9:53 am |
    • nonbeliever

      @rtdb

      This sums up, for me, why christians get stuck in their bubble. They don't ever read or study anything that might challenge or bring up actual evidence against their faith. I would hope that nonbelievers would take the time to engage in thoughts and ideas that go against their belief, or lack of.

      Also, it's a new article, why does it matter why they chose to read it?

      November 27, 2011 at 10:20 am |
    • AnDrade

      @ nonbeliever. For someone who is so "rational", I find it odd that you lump all Christians into the same category. Not all Christians are fundamentalists who believe everything in the Bible happened exactly as stated and aren't metaphors for something else or taken out of context over the centuries by error-prone or malicious people. Also, I am a Christian who is not in a bubble and believes in both science and religion. They compliment and are not mutually exclusive. It takes a person who thinks outside of the confines of either believing or not believing to do this. You are just as irrational as the same type of Christians you detest. Someone can also point out the irrationality of atheism in this manner: "The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. makes perfect sense." You have to accept that both science and religion have their limitations because of one thing: the finite human mind. Be open to the possibility that some being is smarter than yourself.

      November 27, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      @AnDrade-

      I wont bother repeating myself, you can see my response under your above comment.

      November 28, 2011 at 8:08 am |
  5. JimBeam

    Christianity is dying because it refuses to adapt to the modern world.

    Yes, I know, "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever." But the world has changed, and the modern world is not the same as the world of the Bible. Yet most Christians refuse to acknowledge this, taking scriptures intended for a specific audience in a specific place and time and applying them out of context in the modern world.

    Waiting till marriage was a great idea in societies where people got married in their early teens. Now it is disastrously bad advice. Most of the people I know who "waited" married way too young so that they could have s-e-x. Others avoided relationships all together. Many others didn't wait and were unprepared to deal with a s-e-x-ual relationship.

    Many of these people could have used some practical s-e-x-ual ethics and morality. It would have saved them a lot of problems. Yet the churches are absent from this discussion, clinging to a past that no longer exists.

    November 27, 2011 at 12:04 am |
    • nonbeliever

      This is by far the most intelligent response I've read on here. Comes across far better than other christians telling us we are going to hell because we didn't wait.

      November 27, 2011 at 7:14 am |
    • Kyle

      JimBeam,

      You ought to be imprisoned for naiivety, dege-neracy and stupidity. You are a totally clueless mo-ron and I'll leave it at that.

      November 27, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
    • Kyle

      @nonbeliever,

      I don't think hell is bad enough for f-ilth of your sort; I wouldn't even classify you as an animal.

      November 27, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Wow, kyle. I'm curious about the basis of your judgement. JimBeam presented a thoughtful argument. Nonbeliever had the audacity to agree. Your pointless spew of hatred and malice was completely out of proportion to what was said.

      If you are a christian, you need only to look in the mirror to see why people turn away from your church.

      November 27, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
    • Nance

      WOW! Was everyone aware that God just went away and His words no longer apply to the "modern world" and that JimBeam is now the ultimate authority on what's right and acceptable in the "modern world"?

      Oh, I can't wait to see the expression on Gods' face when you stand before him dear! I'm guessing He's gonna have a few words for you!

      Simple fact is He is God and He changes not - you either believe that, or you don't! He left a set of rules and rules for life wherein lie His blessings for all mankind from one generation to the next. He didn't say, when man has ignored my rules and corrupted themselves, then I'll adjust the rules to such and such. NOPE, He didn't do that! And, since He's still God, I'll go by His standards, thank you very much, as opposed to your misguided suggestions.

      You act as though those rules (commandments) and ALL the lessons His Word teaches us, is some kind of punishment that is unacceptable. Funny thing is, His blessings lie withing those boundaries and He sees who loves HIM enough in return to abide by His Word and since ALL the riches of the world belong to Him anyway, He chooses to bless whom He will and since He tells us that we cannot imagine the blessings He has in store for those that love Him, and you do not hold that same power, where do you even come from on such an opinion to begin with?

      November 27, 2011 at 7:30 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      @Kyle-

      Ha ha! Love it! You just prove my point even more, thank you!

      November 28, 2011 at 8:14 am |
  6. Elijah34

    It is funny when people who have never read or understand the Word of God try and comment on it. The Word of God says that a fool will never understand His Word. In the book of second Timothy it tells you my brothers and sisters in Christ, Foolish and unlearned questions avoid. Proverbs tells you, do not answer a fool acording to his folly. All haters of God will go to that place that was originally created for the devil and his angels. You do not want anything to do with God, fine He is going to grant you your wish with eternity in Hell. It may be a joke now, but one day it will not be. There is a place where you can go that has no attributes of God. That place is Hell. If you do not believe in demons, please watch the Bio channels show called hauntings. Just like those people are being tormented, so will you. Those same spirits Hate Jesus just like you. I can promise you one thing, die and do not know Jesus Christ as your savior. You are going to pay for it the rest of your life. All those that confess with their mouth, that this Jesus is Lord, And believe in their heart that God raised Him from the dead will be saved. From the book of Romans the 10 chapter and the 9 verse. Jesus Christ is Lord!

    November 26, 2011 at 8:50 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      Actually you can't promise us anything. You've never died, been to heaven, hung out with your jesus and then come back to tell the world about it. No one knows what happens when we die, its pure speculation and ideas. I have read your bible, studied greek and hebrew in seminary, church history, and so on. People who just read the bible find it far easier to swallow than those of us who have actually taken time to study the history of the church, the bible itself, where the books came from through the Council of Nicea and so on. Study the history of christianity, the crusades, the millions of people who have been carelessly slaughtered in the name of christ. And lastly, the lack of any true evidence that jesus or god even exist. Don't sit here and preach, most nonbelievers who are adamant about their lack of belief know these things far better than christians, because they studied so much they came to a point where they couldn't believe anymore.

      November 27, 2011 at 7:28 am |
    • Rick

      "Nonbeliever":
      Its interesting how irrational you sound, as you attempt to make rational and intelligent arguments. In fact, there is one who has lived on earth, died, and come back – that is Jesus Christ. Doubting the validity of Jesus' words, or the historicity of the Scriptures regarding the teaching of death and the resurrection is a completely different argument.
      In addition, statistically, far more people who read the Bible, study Hebrew and Greek, and go to seminary maintain and evolve their belief in God and their faith, rather than devolve it, like you state.
      On the other hand, you, as an individual, have somehow concluded, irrationally, that
      "most nonbelievers who are adamant about their lack of belief know these things far better than christians, because they studied so much they came to a point where they couldn't believe anymore." ?
      I think I would agree with one thing you say: most thoughtful non-believers study a lot. Unfortunately, they just don't think critically, and intelligently about what they read – otherwise they certainly come to far different conclusions.

      November 27, 2011 at 7:57 am |
    • agnosticator

      @Rick
      Please provide some verifiable evidence that this man known as Jesus actually existed; died, came back to life and transfigured into some godly being. Your beliefs are faith-based, PERIOD. You can believe all you want. It is the fool who tries to convince others that their ideas have merit. When Christians go into their usual diatribes, it is clear you are trying to convince yourself when all evidence shows that the Bible is a mere fabrication, used as a means of social control.

      November 27, 2011 at 8:09 am |
    • nonbeliever

      @Rick

      To claim historical proof through census that a man Jesus did exist during the time claimed he was, is one thing. To have historical evidence that he rose from the dead and is the savior of the world is quite another. My point, and I'm sorry I didn't make it more clear, was the idea that Jesus being god, did not exist in the biblical concept, not the historical.

      You also claim that the majority of seminary scholars "maintain and evolve their belief in God and their faith, rather than devolve it", which I have to somewhat disagree with. While I've not conducted nor read any surveys that further my idea, I go on personal experience. Professors and fellow scholars coming to a cross roads where they made the decision to accept what history and evidence has shown them (that jesus was not the son of god and that christianity was incorrect) or to just have faith that it really was true. I have spoken to many professors and scholars alike who quit following the religion, like me, or couldn't give a rational explanation, they just had faith. This can be equated to many different psycholigical studies of the human need for a belief in something greather than themselves or the lack of desire to give up on what they had devoted most of their natural lives to.

      Also, do not get me wrong, I'm no atheist. I may not believe in any man made god, but I am not an atheist by any means.

      This leads perfectly into your last, uneducated conclusion. That "Unfortunately, they just don't think critically, and intelligently about what they read – otherwise they certainly come to far different conclusions." I've spent twenty plus years now reading and learning and the rise of atheism and agnostic beliefs stems from the fact that information is so much more readily available, we don't have to live in a world where the church is the authority and no one else is allowed to read because they aren't 'good enough to understand', and that once you get past the buttery, feel good pastors in your church and develop the desire to learn and understand for yourself, you discover that christianity is truly nothing more than a fictional story.

      November 27, 2011 at 9:45 am |
    • Rick

      Elijah: You do recognize the logical absurdity of expecting the people can fear retaliation from beings in which they do not believe, don't you?

      November 27, 2011 at 9:49 am |
    • Mir

      @Rick

      Changing your belief requires thinking differently than you're used to – abandoning your beliefs requires thinking completely outside the belief box you grew up in. If you don't consider that intelligent or critical thinking, I'm not sure what would be such?

      November 27, 2011 at 9:51 am |
    • Brendan

      Crazy fanatical belief system to think god is going to punish the majority of people on this earth for not believing in him even though the majority of people on this earth weren't born into a family that raised them christian. I don't believe in a punishing god that would see people suffer for eternity just because we little humans didn't worship him. That sounds like a pretty insecure personality to me, especially one that is apparently the all knowing and omnipotent creator of everything. If he truly exists why the heck does he remain so mysterious? Ohhh, I forgot, this is all one big TEST! Oh, yea, one big test for us wee humans to pass and to interpret cryptic signs as evidence of the all powerful but mysteriously elusive GOD in order for us to be accepted into the paradise of heaven after we die. Do you think that you are one of the privileged few that will be 'saved' simple because you were raised christian and not jewish, or buddist, or hindu, or muslim. Do you realize that other religions share the same conviction in their beliefs and that they are ABSOLUTLEY POSITIVE that they have it right and in fact YOU have it wrong! But no, you are sure of yourself because you have FAITH! Oh Please... It's people like you that are going to get us all killed, it's people like you that would welcome a nuclear holocaust 'in the name of GOD' because you are convinced you would be saved and Jesus would ride down on his golden ray of light to save all the believers. It's people like you that have no sense of personal responsibility to make this world a better place because you believe god has a master plan and it's all laid out before us already. People like you scare me.

      November 27, 2011 at 10:07 am |
    • tallulah13

      So the bible has verses that say the people who do not believe the bible are fools? And you fell for that?

      November 27, 2011 at 3:43 pm |
    • Nance

      Okay non-believer, I'll take you on! You say you've studied significantly and while I would tend to agree that most Christians do not study significantly and rely solely on the Word of God, I'll be one to tell you having researched myself that they don't NEED to study anything else as long as they have accepted the Son of God as their Saviour and follow Him with their lives, they will live eternity with God the Father.
      Now, let's get to your self-professed intelligence on the subject of having studied so extensively that you have proof that there is no God, and those who believe the Bible are just ignorant, mindless morons, as you seem to imply.
      What exactly did you supposedly uncover in your extensive studies that proved your position that God doesn't exist and is just a figment of the imaginations of believers?
      C'mon, let's go at it, shall we?

      November 27, 2011 at 7:44 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      @Nance-

      I'm not dodging you, I promise. I just spent at least an hour typing out a response since I hadn't been on here in a few days, and apparently cnn did not approve it. I will do my best to get it typed up again, just give me some time.

      December 1, 2011 at 9:58 am |
  7. Pete

    "Why wait? Have a dickers."

    November 26, 2011 at 8:03 pm |
  8. wvchristian

    Christianity is salvation through Jesus Christ. Christianity is not a 'wolf' in sheeps clothing, it is not a proclamation of perfectness. You can pick apart any Christian and his/or contradictions. We are all wretched souls, Christians do not hold a monopoly on evilness. We are ALL flawed. No man can glorify himself enough to become worthy of heaven. It is only through Christ and His forgiveness that we become "worthy". Humbleness is the beginning of acceptance. If any Christian proclaims his own righteousness, that is a soul that still has a ways to go in accepting Christ.

    November 26, 2011 at 6:22 pm |
  9. Asiread

    As I read the commentary, I believe their is more atheist writing comments than religion believers. There is a bunch of IDIOTS commenting here because they forgot why people actually fight. People fight for primitive things just like we are doing right now and don't say you aren't because if you weren't you wouldn't be complaining. People use religion as an excuse to fight. Religion isn't broken it never was and never will. It is something that tries to give peace of mind not terrorize. If you don't believe me ask anyone that gives you crap why they do what they do.. Do they tell you god told them to do it or was it because I feel like it. People, Atheist or God Believers are all pathetic piece of thrash! Fight!

    November 26, 2011 at 2:45 am |
    • Mirosal

      Before you post again, please review grade school spelling, grammar, and punctuation. Your little diatribe is replete with errors, and no one will take you seriously until you can correct them.
      ALL religion is flawed, from the beginning of time. No god, EVER, has been shown to be real in any sense of the word. All the gods of the ancient world have been relegated to the realm of mythology. It's only a matter of time until this current "god" joins them.

      November 26, 2011 at 2:55 am |
    • grammarite

      Mirasol – you complained about his grammars and yet you committed the same egregious error:

      "Your little diatribe is REPLETE with errors" – IS REPLETED

      MORON – please comment on his views and ideas...not his grammars!

      November 26, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
    • Nice!

      Score: grammarite 1, Mirosal 0.

      November 26, 2011 at 7:36 pm |
    • dsavio

      grammarite you are not correct...replete with errors is correct usage

      November 26, 2011 at 11:27 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      @grammarite- Not that I don't agree with your actual point that you made at the end of the comment, because I do, but you are wrong about the grammatical use of the word. He has used it correctly. It is replete in this context, not repleted.

      November 27, 2011 at 7:36 am |
    • Mirosal

      My use of the word "replete" was grammatically correct. However, your use of the word "grammars" is sure to raise an eyebrow or two. "Grammars"? There is NO "s" at the end of that word, especially in the context that you have used it.
      Mirosal-2 Grammarite-0

      November 27, 2011 at 8:07 am |
    • Asiread

      Mirosal I don't care about my grammar. English is my third language moron. ROFLMAO!!! However, I will take your criticism about my grammar in to consideration. Still ROFLMAO. You guys make me laugh.

      December 3, 2011 at 11:19 pm |
  10. Jared

    You are not Christian, if you don't follow the teachings of Christ. Regardless of what they want to call themselves, these people are not Christian.

    November 25, 2011 at 8:51 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      Calling themselves Christian allows them to feel superior to others. A wolf in sheep's clothing is still a wolf.

      November 26, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      I guess by your logic there are no christians then, because it is my understanding that your bible speaks clearly that 'all have falled short' and that 'no man has not sinned, not one.' I love when christians can't even agree on their own belief principals.

      November 27, 2011 at 7:39 am |
    • Nance

      Jared, you are correct and as you can see that truth infuriates the demons! Sqeptig – you are correct, a wolf in sheeps clothing is still a wolf! However, being a Christian in no way makes anyone superior to anyone else, just perhaps wiser, more knowledgeable (providing they increase in knowledge). Quite the contrary, one should become more humble but that doesn't mean become a door mat either! It always amazes me that when it comes to Christian topics, the aethiest are all over the comments sections when one would think that since they don't believe in Christian values to begin with, you all would be off "educating" yourselves with the vast array of knowledge you all profess to have and living the good life not concerned with those of us you consider "uneducated". So, please tell, why exactly do you all spend so much of your lives on Christian topics?

      November 27, 2011 at 7:58 pm |
  11. Aroses999

    This is no surprise. Most christians tend to change their habits or laws within their own faith though generations. They were once on favor of slavery... they tend to cherry pick bible's scriptures for their own morality and convenience. Shame on Religion. I am Atheist and I don't have to waste my time in any imaginary being. Enjoy life. Life is too short.

    November 25, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    • nonbeliever

      And don't forget the oppression of women and ho.mo.se.xuals. They always seem to need someone to hold their foot over.

      November 27, 2011 at 7:42 am |
  12. Douglas

    Today we give thanks to a merciful God who has provided us with the power of celib@cy and abstinence to keep us
    pure until we exchange wedding vows. I give thanks to all of you who are making an earnest effort to respect the
    dignity of those practicing celib@cy and abstinence. Our young people need encouragement and uplift to see beyond
    the filth that can drag them down into the abyss of despair, STDs and broken hearts. Thank you for all of your efforts.
    Happy Thanksgiving!
    Douglas

    November 24, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      Today I thank whatever brought in the existence of man, for embedding in me a human desire to be a se.x.ual being and to express that with the women I have dated and loved. I was tempted at one point to wait, to stop mast.er.bat.ing, to even make a promise to my parents I would stay 'pure' till I got married, and then later realized that we were created to have those desires and feelings, they were not something to be affraid of or to try and repress. Once I learned to be safe, to express that part of me with the girls I dated and truly cared for and loved, and that it wasn't something to be feared, but to cherish, life became so much richer.

      November 27, 2011 at 7:53 am |
  13. RamboMan

    "Before God we are all equally wise – and equally foolish." – Albert Einstein.
    “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” – John 3:16.

    November 23, 2011 at 3:11 am |
    • Rick

      Eternal life? Would you serioiusly desire ETERNAL LIFE?

      November 23, 2011 at 7:19 am |
  14. RamboMan

    This is a test.

    November 23, 2011 at 2:57 am |
  15. Maggie

    It's waiting longer to get married that is the problem. Hormones are powerful and are extremely difficult to ignore forever. You can't blame it all on the culture when it's natural.

    November 23, 2011 at 2:31 am |
  16. Leigh Ann

    Yes, keep waiting. I am a 36 year old Christian virgin who is proud to honor my God and future husband.

    November 23, 2011 at 1:02 am |
    • RamboMan

      I hope that you got my post – I did not see it posted for some reason.

      November 23, 2011 at 6:45 am |
    • Rick

      I hope (for your sake) that it is worth the wait.

      November 23, 2011 at 7:24 am |
  17. ArnoldK

    The fact is, your church is broken and no one wants to listen to your lies and hypocrisy any more. Hopefully, it's banned altogether (sorry to the 20%).

    November 22, 2011 at 11:06 pm |
    • RamboMan

      Christianity in it's true form is not broken. Humans (including Christians) are sinners so we are ALL broken (including you). Christianity can be broken in various "Christian" churches, especially those who follow their own agenda. Jesus is pure – he was broken on the cross by God's design and will never again be broken. The only way we all can be healed and saved is through our faith in Jesus.

      November 23, 2011 at 6:58 am |
    • Rick

      Rambo: We are sinners because a collection of edited, translated bronze age hearsay says so? Free people do not need to be "saved".

      November 23, 2011 at 7:27 am |
    • jonathan

      @Ramboman ..those born of God do not commit sin.. :( :)

      we have a christian society but few Christians :)
      This country is 78% Christian and drinks annually 57 billion in Alcohol ... 57 billion...

      November 24, 2011 at 10:23 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Do Christians have a problem with alcohol?
      I thought God's blood is wine!

      November 25, 2011 at 4:05 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      It's ironic, and very commical, that I have read about 20 different variations from 'christians' on what their actual belief is not just on this, but on sin and now drinking and so forth. How do christians expect to turn 'nonbelievers' when the majority cannot even agree on what actual christianity is?

      November 27, 2011 at 7:56 am |
    • AnDrade

      @nonbeliever. It's ironic that you are being irrational again. People disagree no matter how they might categorize themselves. As an example, I hope you have the same criticism for the different schools of science. Using your logic someone could make the same argument in regards to science (this would be irrational): How can proponents of science expect to educate people if they can't agree on the same hypotheses, theories,methods, and meaning of the results? Why should we believe them?

      November 27, 2011 at 3:06 pm |
  18. ArnoldK

    Also, I think you just justified pre-marital s-ex (which comes as no surprise to me).

    Perhaps funnier still (I'm watching and laughing as your religion implodes) is the fact that pre-marital s-ex has been so rampant in America for well over a century (and that's just what's gone recorded); and statistically speaking, the US of the 1900s and prior was probably more Christian than the Vatican City is today. In fact, before this last poll that showed Christians as 76% of the population, the one conducted by the same organisation in the 1990s had Christians nearer to 95%.

    November 22, 2011 at 11:02 pm |
    • RamboMan

      Christianity will never implode. Unlike other religions It is based on what God has done for us in sending his son Jesus to save us, not based on works to be saved. You can laugh all you want, it does not matter. What matters is your faith in Jesus. Got Jesus? I hope so if you want to be guaranteed everlasting life.

      November 23, 2011 at 6:42 am |
    • Rick

      It is based on what (you say) God has done for us

      November 23, 2011 at 7:30 am |
    • nonbeliever

      @RamboMan- Your religion already has. You have at least thirty different denominations who all have differing ideas of what christianity really is while following fifty different variations of that bible all suited to meet their 'ideas'. Christians have murdered millions of people, taken over countries, oppressed women, oppressed african americans, are now oppressiong ho.mo.se.xuals, they protest american soldiers funerals, they bomb abo.rtion clinics, ect. Why in the world would we want to follow this religion? On top of that, if you actually studdied the history of your religion and its bible, you would understand why so many rational people struggle to understand it. Don't spout to me or us some verese and ask if I've 'Got jesus?' Show me so factual evidence that your god exists and we can go from there.

      November 27, 2011 at 8:04 am |
  19. ArnoldK

    Laken, you missed the point.

    Christians know what they're doing is wrong and yet they continue to do it with ever-increasing numbers. Then they show up to church as if nothing ever happened, or in many cases, while still in such relationships (US weekly church attendance according to the most recent Gallup poll as of 2010 is >40%).

    November 22, 2011 at 11:01 pm |
    • RamboMan

      Christians are not perfect, they are sinners too. What matters is that Christians believe in Jesus as their savior who died on the cross to wipe away their sins and that is what saves Christians.

      November 23, 2011 at 6:18 am |
    • Rick

      What matters is that Christians believe that they need a savior. It is sort of a cultural self flagellation.

      November 23, 2011 at 7:57 am |
    • jonathan

      well Arnold they are on their way to becoming Christians..
      a transformation will occur in their lives; my hope is that they will become Baptized in the Spirit to know God on a more direct level, so that they may grow in knowledge of the Son of God , Jesus who is known also as the messiah.. :) :)

      November 24, 2011 at 10:33 am |
  20. TheJanitor1

    John Blake loves the devil.

    November 22, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    • RamboMan

      I feel sorry for John Blake.

      November 23, 2011 at 6:21 am |
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