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September 30th, 2011
10:18 AM ET

Military chaplains to perform same-sex marriages

By Charley Keyes, CNN Senior National Security Producer

Washington (CNN) - Ten days after the military dumped its "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays and lesbians, the Pentagon has issued new rules allowing military chaplains to perform same-sex marriages, but only if allowed by law and the chaplain's beliefs.

"A military chaplain may participate in or officiate any private ceremony, whether on or off a military installation, provided that the ceremony is not prohibited by applicable state and local law," a memo released Friday says.

"Further a chaplain is not required to participate in or officiate a private ceremony if doing so would be in variance with the tenets of his or her religion."

The new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military went into force September 20. In May, before the end of "don't ask, don't tell," the Navy was forced into an embarrassing about-face when if first OK'd and then changed its mind on marriages on military bases.

The new military rules on marriages must be in line with the Federal Defense of Marriage Act and local laws.

The latest two-paragraph memo, from Under Secretary of Defense Clifford Stanley, carefully stops short of fully embracing the idea of same-sex marriage, saying that "a military chaplain's participation in a private ceremony does not constitute an endorsement of the ceremony by DoD" (the Department of Defense).

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Culture wars • Gay marriage • Gay rights • Military • Same-sex marriage

soundoff (1,195 Responses)
  1. jmr

    humans are pretty much the only ones that have gay behavior, now does that sound natural, look around your world, its not a gift of God (there isnt one), but how odd to not like women yet want to be treated like one and receive the schtick

    September 30, 2011 at 12:06 pm |
    • Colin

      That would be irrelevant even if it were true, but it is not. Primates, dolphins and hundreds of non-mammals all exhibit ho.mo$exual behavior.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • jmr

      some do, because of their erections and lack of brain, sounds much like human gays, give into desire only and no capacity or discipline to think otherwise, but we dont need those things for military members do we?

      September 30, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
    • bob

      I'm pretty much against gay marriage, but you are wrong on this. A lot of species exhibit gay behavior. Your ignorance is astounding.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
    • jmr

      millions of species, a handful "exhibit" behavior Id say Im right – look at the ratio, and compare that too flaming humans who know better, claim born that way, and want to live that way

      September 30, 2011 at 12:13 pm |
    • kenny

      you are pretty much a moron... so there's no point in even explaining anything or arguing with you...

      September 30, 2011 at 12:13 pm |
    • Seriously

      "humans are pretty much the only ones that have gay behavior,"

      Keep proving your a moron about this subject. It's been docuumented in over 1500 species.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
    • Melissa

      Nooo, humans are NOT the only ones. Stop lying and get educated.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:22 pm |
    • jmr

      1500 brainless animals out of 15 billion types, wow thats a good reason to be gay

      September 30, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
    • Melissa

      jmr, once again, it is NOT a choice. And its 1500 because not every animal has yet been observed. Its only been studied for maybe 15 years. If that much. Grow up.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:41 pm |
    • Melissa

      Do you actually think anyone would CHOOSE to be treated like dirt? Are you really that dumb? Oh wait, yes you are.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
    • Ya No

      Humans are the only species that employs mathematics. Your point is? (obvious)

      September 30, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
  2. Loves Leviticus

    Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

    I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

    My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? – Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

    September 30, 2011 at 12:05 pm |
    • kimsland

      Only a crazy fool would follow the bible.
      christians are generally quite ignorant, they don't realize that this is exactly what they believe in.
      It's very shameful to say the least.

      Please christians read up the bible then say woops no way am I following that crazy stuff anymore, it's barbaric.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • Hmmm

      I loved that episode of West Wing

      September 30, 2011 at 12:28 pm |
    • Matt - Bethlehem, PA

      Don't forget to round up all those women who weren't virgins when they got married...we should stone them too! I hope there are enough stones to go around....

      September 30, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
  3. Qularkono

    incrementalism ...

    September 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm |
    • BillBeeRx

      Observer: You just checkmated this guy.. LOL good point!!

      September 30, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
  4. conservative

    you liberals are idiots, I have nothing against gays, but why the hell should gays and women be in the military?! they slow down the military, this isn't about rights, this about security and military, this is a WAR, equality isn't going to win us anything

    September 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm |
    • Zach Canada

      haha you're joking.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
    • Observer

      Speaking of idiots, do bombs dropped from a plane piloted by a woman kill fewer people than if the pilot was a man? Do bullets fired by a gay soldier not kill like those fired by a "straight" soldier? LOL!

      September 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • CJ-Jax

      When can we vote you your right to marry?

      September 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • Seriously

      "but why the hell should gays and women be in the military?! they slow down the military, this isn't about rights, this about security and military,"

      LMAO!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Hey moron – they've been in the military this whole time and it hasn't had that impact, because they are professionals idiot!

      September 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • mr butt plow

      I am from planet butt plow...

      September 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • Really....

      Really? Women and gays shouldn't be in the military. Why not just take us all back and say black people can't be in the military either...

      September 30, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
    • saw

      Gays slow down the Military? What are you talking about? I hope you realize history is against you on this one, as there have been gay soldiers throughout history, including some of the most dominant Armies in the world... Romans, Greeks, oh, and the USA!

      September 30, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • Joshua

      Are you an idiot, I know some woman marines that could kick your a$$. Ignorant people are Americas problem these days, you now fit into the category... and quote me.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:12 pm |
    • frmrNCO

      Obviously you've never served. Or maybe you have, let's hear the details of your heroic service there bud. After that, maybe your opinion on gays in the military and war would carry some weight. I remember when conservatism meant a belief in less restriction and government interference in peoples lives. Who someone might be sleeping with doesn't mean s**t in combat, this I can tell you with certainty. But then I'm pretty sure you wouldn't know jack about that now would you...

      September 30, 2011 at 12:13 pm |
    • Ya No

      "You liberals are idiots" Can you believe it got less relevant from there? I think that for a huge part of the US population, adrenal gland function has completely replaced brain function.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
    • BillBeeRx

      BillBeeRx

      Observer: You just checkmated this guy.. LOL good point!!

      September 30, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
    • LA310

      you don't get it...equality is exactly what every war fought in the name of the united states is for....to secure the blessing of liberty for ourselves and posterity, that's the foundation of this nation, our military is the front lines of that security and it's only fitting it would reflect such.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
    • Matt - Bethlehem, PA

      how exactly are gays slowing down the military??? Have you forgotten that they have always been in the military???

      September 30, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
  5. jmr

    I cant wait for two flaming chaplains to get married LOL

    September 30, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
    • Seriously

      "I want to marry my mom and grandma and join the military, dont supress my rights "

      Keep showing your stupidity CNN already did a news piece on it. DUH!

      September 30, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
    • Observer

      jmr,

      Go ahead and marry your mother and then get back to us.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:05 pm |
  6. Josh

    "... not prohibited by applicable state and local law,"

    I thought on a military base, only federal law and military law is applicable. If there is a problem, you call in the MP's, not the local police.

    September 30, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
    • Joshua

      Actually on a military base, you still have to follow local and state laws.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
  7. Here is a Thought

    @Brian Katcher my sister is human. Why cant I marry her...she is my half sister btw. We only live once....Thats who I love so very deeply. Dont take that away from me. Im going to Utah to start a rally

    September 30, 2011 at 11:59 am |
    • Dan, Tx

      I doubt anyone is going to stop you. Good luck.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm |
    • Seriously

      "Why cant I marry her...she is my half sister btw. "

      DUH – incest is illegal – gay sex isn't since being gay is part of normal human seexuality. DUH – you base your opinions on hatred and not facts. LMAO!

      September 30, 2011 at 12:06 pm |
    • Loves Leviticus

      Please, move to Utah.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:13 pm |
  8. kimsland

    Um, I'd say most gays wouldn't want to go to some religious chaplain to get married.
    christians generally hate gays, pretty sure they know that only too well.

    September 30, 2011 at 11:59 am |
    • jake

      wow kim, i though real christians don't have hate in their hearts?

      September 30, 2011 at 12:04 pm |
  9. REB

    The word marriage is not in the bible..... huh go figure.

    September 30, 2011 at 11:58 am |
  10. jmr

    I want to marry my mom and grandma and join the military, dont supress my rights I was born this way not made

    September 30, 2011 at 11:58 am |
    • Observer

      That's it. Change the subject when you have nothing else.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm |
    • Seriously

      "I want to marry my mom and grandma and join the military, dont supress my rights "

      Keep showing your stupidity – incest is illegal – gay sex isn't. Your prejudice and hatred are not founded in real facts you're pathetic.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
    • Dan, Tx

      As a Libertarian, I wish you all the best. Enjoy! I can't see it affects me. It's not like you are setting an example that people are going to follow, YUK!!!

      September 30, 2011 at 12:05 pm |
  11. Colin

    2 Step Guide to Knowing Where to Stand on Social Issues.

    Step One: Ask, what do consservative Christians think.
    Step Two: Adopt the opposite approach.

    Works on:

    (i) a woman's right to choose;
    (ii) teaching evolution in school;
    (iii) medical immunization of teen girls against HPV;
    (iv) assisted suicide;
    (v) gay marriage;
    (vi) my right to view art and theatre deemed “offensive,” “blasphemous” or “obscene” by theists
    (vii) basic $ex education for older school children;
    (viii) treating drug abuse as principally a medical issue;
    (xi) population control;
    (x) buying alcohol on a Sunday;
    (xi) use of condoms and other contraceptives
    (xii) stem cell research.
    (xiii) the prohibition on little 10 year-old boys joining organizations such as the Boy Scouts of America, based on the religious views of their parents; and, of course
    (xiv) gays being allowed to serve their country in the military

    It also historically applies to women’s suffrage, civil rights, the abolition of slavery and prohibition.

    I guess, to be a conservative Christian, you have to accept that your god made you a blithering, ranting simpleton on ALL social issues.

    September 30, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • jmr

      WOW so you like assisted suicide, girls being more able to spread disease or receive it and put burden on health care, etc etc

      September 30, 2011 at 11:59 am |
    • Observer

      jmr,

      So usng condoms spreads social diseases? Wow!

      September 30, 2011 at 12:04 pm |
    • BRC

      @jmr,
      there are times when people can make a convincing case for assisted suicide. ANd contraception decreases the spread of disease. having condoms doesn't make someone have s3x (if it did the high school boys who are just waiting to use theirs would get lucky way more often), they jsut help make things safer if they do.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
  12. The Pope

    All the world over it's easy to see
    People everywhere just want to be free............................................
    Listen, please listen, that's the way it should be
    Peace in the valley, people got to be free...........................................................Young Rascals

    September 30, 2011 at 11:57 am |
  13. Cinman

    In the USMC in the 70's our Navy corpsman was gay. He wore 2 Bronze Stars, Purple Heart among others. GAY! We didn't give a damn as he continually risked his life to save others.

    September 30, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • vtskivt

      Yea, but he probably was in the closet for the most part.... not trying to shove this down out throats.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm |
    • BRC

      @vtskivit,
      Honestly, what is being shoved down your throat?

      The post was about a corpseman who risked his life to save others, but if he was having trouble at home he couldn't talk about it with his shipmates and get support, because it could get him fired. HOW I is that a good thing?

      September 30, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • Ya No

      cinman: the haters 'don't give a damn' what this person has done for his country, his buddies, or anyone/anything else. They hate out of fear – nothing rational about it. They are simply uncomfortable with differences in personal preferences, gender, skin color, religion, place of birth, name – anything that makes someone else different in some way from them.
      Thanks for posting something good and meaningful about someone that has done something good for his fellow man – as have you.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • Matt - Bethlehem, PA

      @ vtskivt

      HONESTLY....How is the repeal of DADT or gay marriage going to affect you? your marrige? your masculine 'straightness'????

      The only thing it will change is by making your hate stronger.

      September 30, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
  14. BillBeeRx

    Call it a union... that's ok.. but don't call it a marriage.. out of marriages are born children... change the term and more will accept.. America is getting SOFT

    September 30, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • Seriously

      "out of marriages are born children"

      Gays and Lesbians have children moron.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:58 am |
    • ThinkForYourself

      So by that reasoning we shouldn't call unions by infertile couples marriage.

      Bigot.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
    • BillBeeRx

      not true.. they adopt..

      September 30, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
    • The Pope

      As I recall, children are also born outside of marriages............unless they're not children because the parents aren't married.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm |
    • LivinginVA

      So my brother and sister-in-law who were wed in a Catholic church and adopted because of fertility issues shouldn't be considered married?

      September 30, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
    • BillBeeRx

      infertile couples.. that is a result of a physical impairment not a principle.. we as americans waver with principles to attempt to achieve equality for all.. which is impossible because we can not please all walks of life.. stick to your fundamental principles .. make exceptions but don't waver the fundamentals.. that is going soft

      September 30, 2011 at 12:04 pm |
    • AL

      I know a lot of infertile straight married couples ....

      September 30, 2011 at 12:04 pm |
    • jake

      actually historically out of marriage comes money and land.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:06 pm |
    • Dan, Tx

      I'm actually confused about union vs. marriage. I think the name wouldn't matter but somehow I thought some legal issues in some states depend on what term is used. Maybe I'm wrong, but as long as legal rights between "married" and "union" are the same, feel free to call a married gay couple a union of two gay people instead. It is just a word for goodness sake.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • CJ-Jax

      what about older couples who marry but have no children? guess by your definition they aren't married either?

      September 30, 2011 at 12:12 pm |
    • Ya No

      Well, bill, looks like your example of logic simply........isn't. I, for one, have no interest whatever in helping you carry your burdens of bigotry – you want them, you pack'em.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
    • Loves Leviticus

      My brother is Gay and has 2 children.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
  15. jmr

    another fiber of america gone, yet money still says in God we trust...hmmm not so much

    September 30, 2011 at 11:54 am |
    • kimsland

      That will go, don't worry.
      Kids are wising up these days.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:55 am |
    • jmr

      Yet, I just love being gay myself.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • Seriously

      "another fiber of america gone"

      No, it's called freedom and civil rights moron. It shows we support what this country was founded on. DUH!

      September 30, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • BRC

      "In God we trust" was added largely in response to teh communist scare. Today we upheld a value that all citizens of this nation are equal and should have the same rights. We strengthened our adherence to one of our core beliefs, we weakened nothing. granted, it may ignore a tenuous strand of your personal faith, but since that has no affect on this nation, and since it doesn't directly affect you, I think we'll all be okay.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:58 am |
    • AmericanBorn

      "another fiber of america gone, yet money still says in God we trust...hmmm not so much"

      Another example of religious bigotry. There are more than just *your* gods.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
    • The Pope

      God quit. She was pi**ed off at all the bigotry and hate people attached to her name.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:04 pm |
    • Dan, Tx

      In God We Trust was added to coins for the first time at the end of the Civil and was put on paper money for the first time in 1957. Things change in America, we do something the founding fathers probably would have objected to – put "in God We Trust" on our currency. Gays in the military is sort of the same thing, things change as society changes. All societies change over time. We don't always like the changes, but as culture changes we have to rely on our principles and reinterpret our principles as our understanding of the world and humanity change. God allows us to gain this new understanding, so we should not go against God's will once it has been revealed to enough people to allow us to exercise our new understanding of the world through our laws.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
    • Hmmm

      jmr...the money has only said that since around 1954...(thanks Ike)...eventually that will get fixed too

      September 30, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
  16. jmr

    support gays, but dont support consenting adults that want to marry more than one person or have mulitple spouses? why not – consenting adults right?

    September 30, 2011 at 11:54 am |
    • Seriously

      ~~~YAWN~~~~ Same crap different day. ~~~YAWN~~~~

      Keep showing why your ignorance is appalling on this subject.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • Dan, Tx

      Don't many of the men in the Bible have multiple wives? There is nothing in the Bible against having multiple wives – Mormonism used to allow it. But they've moved away from it – because their neighbors were against it. But I am pretty sure, some orthodox Mormons wouldn't mind acceptance of having multiple wives. I don't see anything wrong with having mulitple wives, but my heaven's, most men can barely survive one!

      September 30, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
  17. Terri

    I am so thankful the US is finally becoming a country of real equality for all and not the white washed christian fundy version of pretend equality we have been historically.

    September 30, 2011 at 11:53 am |
    • vtskivt

      We are not, we can't have multui wives, and I am sure you would be the first to howl about having 5 – 12 year old wives as this is child abuse. You are also blind. This is only good for you.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:55 am |
    • BillBeeRx

      This has nothing to do with equality.. as you will never achieve consensus of equality for all people. This has to do with the wavering of principles .. ( I have nothing against gays).. Call it a union... that's ok.. but don't call it a marriage.. out of marriages are born children... change the term and more will accept.. America is getting SOFT

      September 30, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
    • BRC

      @vtskivit,
      I child could never intelligently enter into a marriage arrangement, so it is not a parallel; noone who is not deluded would attest that child marriage is a good thing. I don't have a good off hand answer as to why polygamy should remain illegal, so maybe it shouldn't, but it should swing both ways (multiple women to one man, or multiple men to one woman), but the tax/benefit laws are going to be a bear to figure out, and we would need to mandate the formation of contracts to avoid endleess corurt battles between multiple spouces in case of death or divorce.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
    • Dan, Tx

      BRC has it right. I don't think most people have a problem with polygamy, but how do you sort out a family insurance policy? It's really a practical legal issue. First wife is covered but additonal wives have to pay an additional premium I would say. But what if they refuse to buy insurance. Of course in 2014, everyone will have to buy insurance, so maybe that will make it easier to consider polygamy.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
    • Matt - Bethlehem, PA

      @ BILLBEERX,

      There is civil marriage which is what is offered by the state and then there is the religious ceremony that people call marriage. The word marriage was never in the original text of the bible, that word was added centuries later. By allowing gays to marry does nothing to your marriage, my parents' marriage or anyone elses....why the hangup if you have nothing against gays?

      September 30, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
    • DUH

      "Call it a union... that's ok.. but don't call it a marriage.. out of marriages are born children... change the term and more will accept.. America is getting SOFT"

      Wow Duh – gays and lesbians have children. In the 2000 U.S. Census, 33% of female same-sex couple households and 22% of male same-sex couple households reported at least one child under the age of 18 living in the home.

      September 30, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
  18. BriSoFla

    Hey Jesus Freaks, ITS NOT ALL ABOUT YOU! STFU! The Christian Taliban dont like this because they just want SPECIAL RIGHTS from straight people only. NO SPECIAL RIGHTS! Equality for all! If you dont like it, MOVE TO IRAN!

    September 30, 2011 at 11:51 am |
    • vtskivt

      Yup, following your logic, whay can't a mormon marry 5 ladies, or marry a 12 year old..... how about if you can afford it 12 – 13 year olds. You can probably buy them in Mexico..... heck it is only religion really. Gees... how about sheep and cows... nothing wrong with a barnyard ceremony.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:54 am |
    • john

      I like that...equal rights for all. I support Civil unions. Now we need to roll back affirmative action policies that are outdated. Treat everyone equally as an adult (I support grants based on economic hardships and extra help for disadvantaged kids and schools...but as an adult and in the workplace, time to treat everyone the same...merit based).

      September 30, 2011 at 11:58 am |
    • ladykaka

      @vtskivit You have the right to do what you want, until it infringes upon someone else's rights. That's why "you" are not allowed to marry a 13 year old.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
  19. Clay

    @Dave
    "Yeah and what about the part about stoning your children when they disobey? We need to bring that back so we can thin the population of you religious nuts!"
    You atheists would get so much further if you didn't come at us with hatred. Your just proving our point that a violent sinner like you needs God.

    September 30, 2011 at 11:49 am |
    • kimsland

      BURN IN HELL billions of people worldwide, you didn't go to church on Sunday.

      Now that's hatred, and also sadism.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:52 am |
    • Dan, Tx

      People who receive hateful treatment – Christian or atheist – tend to get angry and say hateful thing. Atheists and Christians are pretty much the same, there's plenty of hatred spewed by Christian's towards atheists. We do expect atheists to be more gentle and kind than Christians, but it isn't always the case.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:55 am |
    • Clay

      Again, your only proving my point. You meet an open and honest statement by scoffing at it and mocking it.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • Larry69

      Clay, if you religious nuts would leave us alone we wouldn't bother you. At least Atheists haven't gone around slaughtering people because they did believe in god.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • Melissa

      Yeah well, you promote hatred. You won't get love back. When you stop being closed minded childish uneducated fools, then we can talk and you will get treated better.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • kimsland

      I understand and agree Dan, Tx
      But we need to get louder and inform christians that they are pathetic, that's all I ask.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • Melissa

      Clay, your point is that you want us to kiss your butt while you think its ok to treat everyone else like crap due to two lines in the bible. Grow up.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:58 am |
    • Non Belieber

      So why does everyone who disagree with Christianity have to be an atheist? The problem is that a vast number of Christians are to ethnocentric in terms of their religion, they do not have the decency or courtesy to show respect to others. The phrase you commonly use called, "Spreading God's word" does not require you to be obnoxious, repulsive, and discriminatory. You should be able to to do it with dignity and poise (at a minimum). Some respect for others (even those with differing views) would be nice to! Without that, I don't know how effective you really are at "Spreading God's word."

      September 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
    • Stayxsie Johnson

      Its called sarcasm clay....but that is the roots of your belief....stone your children....WOW....talk about a violent religion.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
    • Clay

      @Larry69
      "Clay, if you religious nuts would leave us alone we wouldn't bother you. At least Atheists haven't gone around slaughtering people because they did believe in god."
      You have to remember, Christianity is broken into many denominations. The 'Holy Slaughter' was an action of the Catholics and protestants. You can't blame all of Christianity for a few extremists.
      @Melissa
      "Yeah well, you promote hatred. You won't get love back. When you stop being closed minded childish uneducated fools, then we can talk and you will get treated better."
      Can you please be more specific? A mere accusation of hatred without example means nothing. As for uneducated, I tried and gave up on Atheism. My faith is educated.
      @Melissa
      No, it's not. I'm saying come in here and be reasonable, not just throwing insults. I've written whole posts against peoples beliefs without actually insulting them, and you act like I ask you to do something unreasonable.
      @Non Belieber
      I thank you for posting a lengthy response. It's not about everyone that's against Christianity, it's about Atheists who come in and try to combat it with hatred. Then they tell us off for being hateful. I'm not saying all are, but I want to help the ones who are.
      I'd like to thank Dan & Non Belieber for actually reading my post and giving an adequate response.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
    • Ya No

      I'm agnostic. I can neither prove nor disprove the existence of a 'supreme being'. Critical thinking.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:27 pm |
  20. Common Sense

    Yay for less bigotry!!!!!

    September 30, 2011 at 11:49 am |
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