By Peter Taggart, for CNN
The Catholic Church in Ireland is going high-tech in a bid to reverse a dramatic decline in the number of priests.
An establishment viewed as a bastion of tradition is turning to a new app to encourage more "applications." The app, says the church, is "designed to promote vocations to the priesthood."
It is being hailed as a "world first" by the church in Ireland.
"The app is an original approach to assist current and future generations seeking to investigate and find information on vocations to the diocesan priesthood in Ireland," a statement issued ahead of the launch said.
The number of new recruits to the priesthood has fallen sharply in the recent decades - and as Ireland has become engulfed in a series of child sex abuse scandals over the past few years.
The situation led to a respected former Catholic bishop in Ireland to call for an end to clerical celibacy.
Edward Daly, the retired bishop of Derry, said allowing clergymen to marry would ease many of the church's problems.
Daly told CNN he was worried about the decreasing number of priests and the number of older priests.
The issue "needs to be addressed and addressed urgently," Daly said, adding he found it "heartbreaking" priests were forced to resign or prospective priests were unable to join the priesthood because of the celibacy rule.
The new 'Vocations' app was designed by Father Paddy Rushe and developed by the company Magic Time Apps, based in Dublin. It is available to download for free from the Apple iPhone App Store, said the church.
Some of the features of the app, according to the church, are: Connection to Twitter and Facebook; Social networking at the service of vocations; Contact details and statistics on the 26 dioceses of Ireland; Frequently asked questions to assist a person to discern his vocation; News feed running from the national vocations website; Novel and cursory 'tests' to enable the user to reflect on vocation potential.
"Future updates will include a "prayer counter" to allow people pledge a period of prayer for vocations and a picture gallery which will include some images from the life of a seminarian," the church statement said.
The launch of the new app marks the official handover from Rushe as the National Coordinator for Diocesan Vocations to Father Willie Purcell and his team, said the church.
The app is part of a campaign promoted on the church website - http://www.vocations.ie - and follows 'Priesthood Sunday,' which was on September 25. The website called it "an opportunity to highlight and promote particularly the vocation to the priesthood."
A statement on the website stressed more priests are needed: "The number of priests per Catholic has declined over the past 40 years. This makes it more difficult for individual parishioners to establish a close relationship with any one particular priest."
"Also, priests are no longer the only ones who offer pastoral care to our people," the statement continued. "Yet without a priest, no parish is able to be a Eucharistic community. It is important to reaffirm the importance of the priesthood of Jesus Christ and its central place in the life of our church."
I want to apply as a Priest, i have always wanted to b a Priest please how will i apply?
The Roman Catholic church (to which I once belonged) will not survive this century. It may survive as a remnant church but not as the pinnacle of Western Christendom. That said Christianity itself may not survive this century. It may be reduced to a small fragmented array of churches no two of which are similar. The various "leaders" no longer lead anyone spiritually or secularly. It's little more than commercial self gratification; corporate greed so to speak..
Let us scour the Earth for Jesus. When his body is found or isn't found, arguements will be rationalized and proved wrong.:) The end.
I've got a better design on a mp3 player for you religious folks. If you want some real tech!
This is just a direct correlative and 'Symbolic Representation' of the C-R-A-P that is religion! This is what your religion is like housed in the container of what 'Religion is' when it is built as a mock running MP3 Player.
[I will include all the listed main features and design at the bottom.]
If you were to build the mp3 player that would house the religion rhetoric, what would it look like?
What comparisons would you a-s-s-ociate or attach to that purchaser/buyer base?
Let us find out.
[Starting off with the 'brand' of music -which is not music- that it would play.
In the set lists would be a collage of all of the verses of the bible that they like and agree with. Only those, and no others!
Not the ones certainly – that directly compromise the said religion.]
You will not be surprised that it WILL look like the bible!
Before you can even power it on to press the play button, you'll notice – the amount of regret you are feeling.
It's so unlike the regret of buying any other electronic device you've ever owned. This feeling is heavier.
It couldn't be MORE of a c-r-a-p-p-y mp3 player like your friends have told you it was... nah it couldn't be?!
You are firstly and lastly always -responding to the doubts- about it from others.
Anyways you get over the initial doubt and hit play. Let's see or listen to that short list on the contents shall we... oh yes the bible!
– That is all there is! No complaints! why would you complain about the bible? –
You like THIS embedded unchangeable content. It only has the contents you desire to hear! It came especially tuned to your taste! The whole glorious bible singing to you! You bring it to school/work and the internet everyday and then begin to show it off. You encounter negative comments from people.
That was a real surprise! That people did not respond positively to your religion mp3 player. You want to smack them, just like the contents of the player wanted you to do!
You just HAVE to DEFEND your choice in this particular 'flavor' of religion mp3 player. It houses christian content here from the good ole AMERICAS! Not that terrible Islamic content that is said to be sold over across in the Middle East!
You REALIZE the regret for what it was – it is the EXACT SAME COMPANY that designed this religion mp3 player! They've sold out and put other content into your christian player's set list. Those b-a-s-t-a-r-d-s want money! They even said it was unchangeable content! (You are not versed in technology to even attempt to change it. Don't bother you will sin and besides it is embedded on ROM.)
You were so proud of yourself in the store of life to NOT choose that scientific gibberish mp3 player.
You could not understand why that scientific one is so liberating in design! It doesn't even resemble a bible!
And all those other features. It needed a manual to operate also! Have to read it first to understand!? What nonsense!
You can not believe that they the science player included A DISCLAIMER that you were RESPONSIBLE for the contents of the player! You took a look at yours and it didn't have any disclaimers – you felt elated! That science player had features to install and erase and also to modify the music collection too! You thought 'why would I bother to do that!?"
The absolute selling point of your player was the 'magic'! No need for real life batteries! You thought that being real was too much!
You understood that there are no warranties in life. Yet you thought that when the guy selling this said you were guaranteed to be in heaven was the warranty!
You'll disagree at this point in your journey of the view about your mp3 player. It is okay that you feel this way.
You've been converted to react positively to any religious product, so you are just feeling that negative criticism I presented. You do not like it, tough s-h-i-t! You can not accept the fact that other people do and have a better understanding of other mp3 players. Your player is c-r-a-p!
It's exactly like buying an 'I-Device'. You will spend any amount to purchase the next newer model even if it is junk. Look at the New Testament model revision mp3 player. Oh it's already here!
By the way I am not saying Apple is bad, just religion. Get a clue.
You may note the past history of mankind for giving good advice! Yet you on the other hand have already made the exception to listening. Hence this purchase of the s-h-i-t box that is the "religion mp3 player". It is natural that you have surrendered to the lure of magic of the religion mp3 player.
As a product you are aware of the let down syndrome! A big let down of which you already have felt for not having your prayers answered by this product! You didn't read that OUTDATED manual that the company had printed! They could not get anything on that God menu that they have implemented to work. They said that even they could not get God to cooperate! What a big let down! The other engineers at the scientific player told them that they couldn't!
You so wanted an instant lightning bolt to drop from the sky from using the religion mp3 player. Better yet was the one for "send that person to hell" feature with the confirmation message you can hear on it's success! Another big let down!
So after a tiring week or so of negative remarks on your player you decided to buy a huge set of amplified speakers to connect to your player! Instead of using the accompanying earphones for private listening pleasure -as it was intended- you blast your brand of 'music' to everyone to REALLY show them!
To SPITE them all! Those people who find it annoying – you want them to hear- nay! torture them gladly! How can they not recognize that this music is "sweet glory!" They DARE call it bollocks!
From day one you could not find the STOP button. In the manual you notice that no such button was ever implemented. You realized it was great also! Not having to push a button on the sabbath was what they thought out like you did.
There are two buttons you never thought you would use – the B.O.R.E and the S.H.I.T buttons! You thought that your love for this religion player was enough to win someone over. You were wrong, your words seem to fall on deaf ears! So you switch to using those two modes. For those who came from over the Middle East and other parts that had different religion players you use the "Bash Other Religion and Everyone" button. The S.H.I.T (Spread Hate and Intolerance To Everyone) you reserved for the gays and everyone you wanted to send to hell! These are so righteous buttons and properly named! You thought that they were the boring and s-h-i-t heads. You couldn't possibly be the bore and s-h-i-t-h-e-a-d yourself from another perspective. You have god you thought and there is all I will ever need.
Well congratulations! On that s-h-i-t box! Here is the full run down on the list of features and stuff.
Notable Buttons and features (versus the mainstream and better marketed mp3 players):
NO FAST FORWARD
No STOP Button
New S.H.I.T Button – Spread Hate and Intolerance To Everyone
New B.O.R.E Button – Bash Other Religions and Everything (that you do not agree with)
Repeat/Preach Forever feature
Changeable Favorite Condemn List
Runs on Magic
God menu item *
(*Features herein the list are disabled, can't get it to work.)
(*We are sorry that we could not get God to help us make these features work.)
[You will note the color scheme to this mp3 player is 'bland'.
Bland is the accepted color of religious life.]
Tracks and verses read out and choreographed in (rap)E-sharp, flat F(ilth), ghastly G(od) – minor, and C(ondemn) -major.
Background acoustics with banjos, a one-string harp, twined toothpicks, garbage can lids, and a rat swimming in sewer sauce.
-–Trademarked and Copyrighted! Today. This lifetime. By me, giving you the ...
A child pr0n app? Since Steve Jobs' death, Apple has been on a downward spiral. Sickening.
Apple has a good future because Microsoft ruiins everything it does. Microsoft is assuring the future of LINUX and Apple and some others that have not even emerged yet.
A recommended addition the topic Application:
For an added thought, here is what Professor JD Crossan has to say about atonement theology: (from his book, "Who is Jesus" co-authored with Richard Watts)
"Moreover, an atonement theology that says God sacrifices his own son in place of humans who needed to be punished for their sins might make some Christians love Jesus, but it is an obscene picture of God. It is almost heavenly child abuse, and may infect our imagination at more earthly levels as well. I do not want to express my faith through a theology that pictures God demanding blood sacrifices in order to be reconciled to us."
"Traditionally, Christians have said, 'See how Christ's passion was foretold by the prophets." Actually, it was the other way around. The Hebrew prophets did not predict the events of Jesus' last week; rather, many of those Christian stories were created to fit the ancient prophecies in order to show that Jesus, despite his execution, was still and always held in the hands of God."
"In terms of divine consistency, I do not think that anyone, anywhere, at any time, including Jesus, brings dead people back to life."
Bottom line: Yes, Jesus lived and was crucified. He did not however raise physically from the dead, nor did he die to erase our sins, nor was/is he God.
Then why was His Tomb empty the next morning? Why did hundreds of people see him walking around and talking after the crucifixion – oh, wait, is suppose you think the Romans were incompetent at killing? Is it just that you don't believe in 2000 year old eye witness testimony? Try reading some Christian Theology to balance out the Atheist authors you have been reading.
"eye witness testamony"?!?!?!?
The gospels are, at best, second hand accounts written decades after the alleged events took place. Just because someone who wasn't there said that several hundred people were doesn't make it true.
Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection/Easter Con/Disease:
From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."
Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.
From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:
"Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.
Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.
Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.
The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.
Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "
"In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.
With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:
An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,
"Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."
p.168. by Ted Peters:
Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "
So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.
I knew this sort of thing would happen when those demon-possessed people started messing around with that “science” stuff. They should have left well enough alone. That damned Columbus trying to convince people that the world wasn’t flat. And that Copernicus guy, saying that the earth isn’t really the center of the universe. How ridiculous!!! And da Vinci, he’s burning in hell with the rest of those blasphemers and heretics. That Ben Franklin character, messing around with electricity that started all this modern technology nonsense, he has a special place in hell along with his new neighbor, Steve Jobs. Ah, for the good old days when people were uneducated and supersti-tious and would believe anything the infallible pope told them. We weren’t really molesting young boys, like those namby-pamby budinskis think. We were educating them in the ways of the world. Yeah, that’s it, it was for their own good. Why won’t people believe us?
You must be Amish.
Chester, take a guess where these men got the concept to conduct their searches????
Isaiah 40:22: "It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE OF THE EARTH." How did Isaiah know in 700 B.C.
Job 26:7: ". . . and hangeth the earth upon NOTHING."
Job is the oldest book in the Bible! Written over 3500 years ago! How did Job know something that was IMPOSSIBLE to know during his day?
Genesis 2:7: "And the Lord God formed man of the DUST OF THE GROUND, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul."
Psalm 8:8: ". . . whatsoever passeth through the PATHS OF THE SEAS."
How did David (the writer of Psalms) know, over 2,000 years ago, there were "paths in the seas"? David probably never even saw an ocean! HOW DID HE KNOW?
Ecclesiastes 1:7: "All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again." How did the writer of Ecclesiastes know the water cycle of condensation and evaporation? The sun evaporates water from the ocean, water vapor rises and becomes clouds. This water in the clouds falls back to the earth as rain, collects in rivers, and makes its way back to the ocean.
How did the writer of Ecclesiastes know this in 1000 B.C.? 2500 YEARS AHEAD!
Leviticus 15:13: "And when he that hath an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself seven days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in RUNNING WATER." God said to wash the infected flesh in RUNNING WATER.
Job 38:19: "Where is THE WAY where light dwelleth?" How come Job didn't say where is THE PLACE where light dwelleth? Because light is always moving. How did Job know something in 1500 B.C. ?
Ecclesiastes 1:6: "The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again ACCORDING TO HIS CIRCUITS." How did the writer of Ecclesiastes know the wind traveled within circuits? How did he know with their so-called limited knowledge thousands of years ago?
Proverbs 6:6-8: "Go to the ant. . . gathereth her food in the harvest." Solomon had been right after all. . ." How did Solomon know that in 1000 B.C.?
Proverbs 17:22: "A merry heart doeth good like a MEDICINE." How did the writer of Proverbs know that – 3000 years ahead?
Leviticus 17:11: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood." That's the most accurate statement ever written about the blood! It is the blood that carries on all the life processes of the body. It is the blood that causes growth, builds new cells, grows bone and flesh, stores fat, makes hair and nails. It is the blood that feeds and supports all the organs of the body. If the blood supply be cut off from an arm, that arm will immediately begin to die and rot. It is the blood that repairs the body. It is the blood that clots wounds, that grows new flesh, new skin and even new nerves. It is the blood that fights disease. Exactly what the Bible said in 1490 BC.
“How did the writer of Ecclesiastes know the water cycle of condensation and evaporation?”
For one, this is not a complete understanding of the water cycle. The Bible pretty clearly reflects the understanding of the water cycle at the time it was written.
You'll note that the bible also has another most amazing insight – once trees fall, they stay there. Wow! There is no way people could have known that.
“Proverbs 17:22: "A merry heart doeth good like a MEDICINE." How did the writer of Proverbs know that – 3000 years ahead?”
How about some of the other great medical foreknowledge in the Bible?
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick. (James 5:14-15)
As they were going away, a man who could not talk and was demon-possessed was brought to him. After the demon was cast out, the man who had been mute spoke. The crowds were amazed and said, “Never has anything like this been seen in Israel!" (Matthew 9:32-33)
If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee. (Exodus 15:26)
And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians. (2 Chronicles 16:12)
So according to the Bible, prayer and faith will heal the sick, mental illnesses are caused by demon-posession, and if you see a doctor, if you're sick, it's your own damn fault for not loving god enough, and if you see a doctor instead of god for your diseases, your diseases will never heal.
What amazing knowledge of medicine we find in the Bible! The only logical conclusion we can come to is that god handed this knowledge down on high – or, a bunch of desert-dwellers wrote this book with the limited knowledge of medicine they had at the time.
The world is a sphere, not a circle. That the authors of the bible chose the specific term for circle when sphere was part of their lexicon shows ignorance, not wisdom.
"DUST OF THE GROUND" ?? Sorry, but no pass on that nonsense. Man does not come from dust.
"PATHS OF THE SEAS" – nothing profound there. Even 2,000 years ago, boats were sailing.
Ecclesiastes 1:7 – You are inferring a reference to the water cycle where non exists.
"RUNNING WATER" – this is common sense, not divine revelation. Much of Leviticus seems to be about common sense that wasn't so common back then – like basic personal hygiene!
"ACCORDING TO HIS CIRCUITS" – ancient phoenician sailors were aware of prevailing winds before the Bible was ever written.
Soloman knowing that ants gather food is not prophetic.
Leviticus 17:11: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood." – again, common sense. People have always known that you can bleed to death. Many ancient cultures, like the Aztecs, revered blood as the most precious thing. That's why they cut people's hearts out and offered them to their gods.
Your assumption seems to be that before the Bible, people didn't pay attention to anything. Nobody observed insects, or prevailing winds, or disease patterns, or knew what medicine was, or watched the stars, etc etc.
Your faith is playing tricks on you, inferring prophecy and wisdom where none is to be found.
"The world is a sphere, not a circle. That the authors of the bible chose the specific term for circle when sphere was part of their lexicon shows ignorance, not wisdom."
I love when the bible dimwits trot out Isaiah as an example of how the faithful were on to science.
I'll make this easier for for you religiots to understand.
CIRCLE = Pizza
SPHERE = Volleyball (and the earth)
FLAT = Pancakes (and HeavenSent's head)
ROUND = Basketball (and the earth)
Heaven Sent has been given valid refutations for this nonsense time and time and time again on these blogs.
I am finished with her, but thanks, guys, for stepping up - perhaps there are others who will benefit from your input.
Isaiah 40:22: "It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE OF THE EARTH." – The sun moves around the Earth. By studying the movement of the stars, one might have been able to gather the Earth was rotation. If you want to get nitpicky, the bible also references the four corners or quadrants of the Earth as well. One could just as easily say they believed the earth was a flat circle (note they didn't say sphere) that rotated, and the quadrants of the Earth were the North, South, East and West.
Job 26:7: ". . . and hangeth the earth upon NOTHING." – Look up into the sky, day or night. Tell me, do you see any rope? Neither did they. Rocket science, I know.
Genesis 2:7: "And the Lord God formed man of the DUST OF THE GROUND, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul." – Which time? The bible has two creation myths, and this god you speak of created everything in two accounts in Genesis. These two accounts conflict with each other. I'm sure the ancient Sumerians were VERY confused by this, since it happened when they already had a somewhat advanced civilization in place.
Psalm 8:8: ". . . whatsoever passeth through the PATHS OF THE SEAS." – Many ancient people knew about the currents of the oceans. You should watch the History Channel, or perhaps Discovery. They explain a lot of these things. I'm not sure why you think this is a miracle.
Ecclesiastes 1:7: "All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again." – Evaporation. Magical! I don't see the word evaporation in this verse. I've looked for it twice. Nice try though!
Leviticus 15:13: "And when he that hath an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself seven days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in RUNNING WATER." – You're telling me that these people were so stupid that they were unable to figure out what mankind had already known long before.... wash the dirt and grime out of your wounds or else it'll get infected. It's a good thing the tribes in South America had a copy of the bible.... oh, wait.
Job 38:19: "Where is THE WAY where light dwelleth?" – Sounds to me like he's asking a question. I'm entirely too lazy to look up the rest of the scriptures surrounding this one, more than likely taken out of context. Perhaps he was entirely too stupid to know that the sun is a star and since it (the sun is a light source) moves, it could have been nighttime and he was asking for directions to the sun. Green Lantern might be able to assist him on that one.
Ecclesiastes 1:6: "The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again ACCORDING TO HIS CIRCUITS." – By paying attention. The same way ancient people mapped the stars and the path of the sun. Time and patience. It's the only thing you have in the middle east when you're not too busy touching livestock inappropriately.
Proverbs 6:6-8: "Go to the ant. . . gathereth her food in the harvest." – The same way we learn about anything else. Studying it.
Proverbs 17:22: "A merry heart doeth good like a MEDICINE." – What? You think this means something? Oh joy skippy, you'll feel food if you're positive! Wow, thanks for this miraculous revelation.
Leviticus 17:11: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood." – I'm sure everyone knew by this point that when you bleed profusely, you die. This isn't a mindblowing breakthrough by any stretch.
Look. If you're going to use scripture to try to prove the bible is real, each and every single time, you are going to end up flat on your face. EVERY TIME. The bible is just a bad joke.
derp – your funny. Is the earth not a sphere? Roughly speaking. Isn't a circle round? I do think it is. Maybe you will have geometry class in fourth grade. My son is going through it right now.
Gerald, a circle is two dimensional. A sphere has three. Perhaps your kid can help you with the concept.
gerald, "...fourth grade. My son is going through it right now."
Have him teach you the difference between "your" and "you're" then... I think he probably learned it last year or the year before.
"derp – your funny. Is the earth not a sphere? Roughly speaking. Isn't a circle round? I do think it is. Maybe you will have geometry class in fourth grade. My son is going through it right now."
Wow Gerry, quite frankly, you are dumber than a bag of cement. I thought I made the whole "circle vs sphere" pretty clear. I guess you christians are dumber than I thought. Sorry, I'll try this dumbing this down for you again.
Take a half dollar coin and toss it in the air. While it is in the air pick heads or tails. When it lands on the ground it will have one of the two sides facing up, and one facing down. That's because it is FLAT. It is a circle.
Now, take a basketball and toss it up in the air. While it is in the air, pick heads or tails. You will notice that when it sopd bouncing, it does not have one side up and one side down. The reason it does not have one side up or down is because it is not flat. It is a sphere.
Pizza, coins, eggo waffles, they are all circles.
Baseballs, volleyballs, cantaloupes AND THE EARTH are all spheres.
Is this clear enough for you, or do I need to dumb it down even further?
Well how about that? You say there is a difference between your and you're? What about maybe and may be? There and their and they're? Is "yer" (such as in "ya want yer oil checked?") the same as your? But what if they ask "is them yer chickens?" What about "simultaneously together" or "I myself" or "well the pope he..." ("my ma she done tol' me not ta git in no trub...ah.. don' mess up")
There really is not much biblical as far as them not being able to marry. I have heard it said that they do that because Jesus told his disciples they would have to leave everything to follow him. But in the new testament Paul says that priests should be allowed to marry. I think that people can be married and have families and follow Jesus at the same time. Almost every clergy member that is not Catholic does it.
Nowhere does Paul say priests should be married. He does indicate that if they are they should only have married once "husband of one wife", i.e.not polygamist or divorced. He also says it is a higher calling not to marry in 1 Cor 7. Also Jesus himself makes this point in Matt 19 when Peter asks "then it is better not to marry". He says "to some this has been given for the sake of the kingdom". No you are wrong. Celibacy is the preferred state for those doing the work of Christ in scripture.
I said should be allowed to marry not should marry.
Gerald gets confused a lot (reference the circle/sphere debate). They weren't/aren't allowed to marry because women are expensive, and turns out, the Catholic church likes money. Go figure.
Well actually if you look at demographics marriage has not done as well as churches. I would even say marriage did not survive the 20th century (especially womens lib). So today we see single parent families with four or five children not two of which have the same father and the mother has never been married. It's kind of like musical bedrooms ..whatever bedroom you are in at midnight.
ah the age of instant gradification...how priestly. :) very humble indeed!
God have mercy, Christ have mercy, God have mercy.
Mercy on what? The fact that Catholics have become so desperate to recruit pedophiles that they needed an app to help them?
I see the priest haters can't pass an opportunity to slander priests as if all of them are child molesters.
TruthPrevails, I've always met decent, honorable, intelligent, compassionate priests in the Catholic churches that care about their congregation. Therefore, stop lumping all priests together with the few that are blinded by the sins of pride and lust of
Want to find little boys to diddle? There's an app for that.
Want to fleece people out of thier life savings? There's an app for that.
Want to be completely delusional? There's an app for that too.
There's probably an app for bigots like you too.
Whats with calling everyone who disagrees with your point of veiw a biggot? Maybe you should learn the meaning of words before you go spouting them. Or are you OK with people diddling little boys?
What's with ridiculing everyone you disagree with with sick jokes about diddling little boys. That's not just disagreement. Its sick insulting. Thus I stand by my claim that you are a bigot.
Oh and by the way jimbot, why on earth would I be in favor of diddling little boys? Because I am a Catholic? You simply reinforce the fact that you are a bigot.
"There's probably an app for bigots like you too."
Ahhh poor little christian passing judgments. LOL!
catholics have the mental capacity of bricks. Each and every one of them.
Not my post.
This ought to be a great day for atheists. I doubt there will be very many believers to counter their sarcasim and hate.
oh come on Bo, even you would laugh at this.
I'm gon'a let the Catolicts defend themselves on this one, they have brought it upon themselves. They deserve critisium, and in my opinion they won't get enough. They seem to have enough money to pay off victums, but not enough to screen their prospective preists and get rid of the bad apples.
This seems a bit like playing music on a sinking Ti.tanic. Really – the best PR move you could come up with was a smartphone app? lame.
The fact of the matter is that the church is doing a much better job of screening candidates for the priesthood and many new rules have been put in place to this affect. But speaking in ignorance you would not know about any of this.
This from gerald, who thinks a circle and sphere are the same thing.
You click on the app and it immediately downloads kiddie p.orn. If you reject the p.orn, you are not fit to be a priest.
Someone should hack that priests phone for nudy pics
Can't miss an opportunity to make a sick joke can you Colin. Your as much of a perv as any priest who has molested a child.
"Can't miss an opportunity to make a sick joke can you Colin. Your as much of a perv as any priest who has molested a child."
Don't you just love the judgments being made, LOL!
"Your as much of a perv as any priest who has molested a child."
Typical catholic. Minimizing the horrific abuse that their faith has laid on children. You do realize that you have just equated rap ing a child with making a joke. In another 30 seconds or so, we are sure to hear the obligatory blaming of the victim.
derp, what have you done to help abused children? And not just the thousands abused by priests. Definitely horrible. But also the 38 million or so abused in society in general by doctors/lawyers/police officers/teachers/fathers/brothers. No you won't speak about them. You will only speak about the ones abused by priests. Just as Colin does because it is really religion that you hate. Not abuse.
"You will only speak about the ones abused by priests. Just as Colin does because it is really religion that you hate. Not abuse"
Huh....I thought this was a belief blog...talking about religion..... ;-)
Oh NOW science and technology is welcomed by the church.
And here I was thinking that the church felt that 'god' will be their communication.
This is a matter of "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em". They see their number's dwindling and so they attempt to attract more pedophiles via an app. Complete morons.
Don't worry. I had the software designer burned at the stake. Gotta keep consistent with the infallibility of the earlier Popes and doctrine.
kimsland, your jokes aren't funny. It's shows poor character kick innocent priests down due to the actions of a few.
NO SUCH THING AS AN INNOCENT PRIEST.
This is another one of my little admirer's posts, not mine.
Looks like herbie is trying to cover his tracks.
Why would he? He thinks he's providing a service. Then again, so do hit men.
It's a great app. There are some good games on it like "Hide The Pedophile Priest" where you move a deviant priest from place to place to keep him one step above the law. There are instructional segments like "How To Stonewall" and "Blame The Victim."
And for those lucky 5% of the priesthood, there is information on what to say to boys so that they say nothing before the statute of limitations runs out.
It's a great app!
And your a great bigot.
If you don't like it, then demand the Church stop doing it and get right with the victims, Gerald!
I bet you personally have said and done NOTHING to improve the situation or even recognize that the church has behaved not only abominably but criminally.
I'll bet you would be wrong.
Recognizing the flaws, follies and frauds in the foundations of Islam, Judaism and Christianity, the "bowers", kneelers" and "pew peasants" are converging these religions into some simple rules of life. No koran, bible, clerics, nuns, monks, imams, evangelicals, ayatollahs, rabbis, professors of religion or priests needed or desired.
Ditto for houses of "worthless worship" aka mosques, churches, basilicas, cathedrals, temples and synagogues.
Reality, Jesus spoke of theses priests falling from the path of His truth in the Books of Ezra and Nehemiah. 400 years before He walked the earth in the flesh. Those books also show how people will come back to His truth ... so your bashing of religion is futile since it's Jesus' word that we seek.
For added thought, here is what Professor Crossan has to say about atonement theology: (from his book, "Who is Jesus" co-authored with Richard Watts)
GARBAGE ALERT – click the report abuse link this garbage isn't worth viewing. TROLL ALERT AGAIN!
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