By Jessica Ravitz, CNN
Editor’s note: This is part of an occasional series of stories looking at the faith of the leading 2012 presidential candidates, including Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich. We also profiled the faith journey of Herman Cain before he suspended his campaign.
(CNN) – A cop arrived at the roadside wreckage of a June 1968 head-on collision in southern France, took one quick look at the Citroën’s unresponsive driver and, according to one of the driver’s friends, scrawled into the young man’s American passport, “Il est mort” - “He is dead.”
The man at the Citroën’s wheel was Mitt Romney, who may have appeared dead but was very much alive – as is his bid today for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.
Romney was serving as a missionary for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or the LDS Church, when tragedy struck. It was a time of turmoil both in France and in the United States. Protests against the Vietnam War raged on, as did French disdain for Americans. Robert Kennedy had recently been assassinated, as had Martin Luther King Jr. a couple months earlier. France was still reeling from a May marked by riots, student demonstrations and crippling worker strikes.
There were six people in the car Romney was driving when friends say an oncoming speeding Mercedes, driven by a Catholic priest, veered into his lane. Among the passengers was mission president Duane Anderson – Romney was serving as his assistant – and Anderson’s wife. Anderson was injured, and Leola Anderson, 57, was killed. Like her husband, she’d been a parent figure to the approximate 180 Mormon missionaries in the field - their surrogate mother away from home. Now, she was gone.
“I don’t think [Romney] went around blaming himself, but in talking about it he’d shed some tears,” remembered Dane McBride, a fellow missionary and Romney friend ever since. “It was a very heavy experience for a 21-year-old.”
The mission president left France for six weeks to bury his wife and heal. A gloom spread over the mission field. Conversions dropped along with Latter-day Saint spirits.
These young men and women, who were already deep in a trying spiritual rite of passage, had to grow up and prove themselves in new ways.
In spite of his grief and a broken arm, Romney and a missionary companion – they always work in pairs – took charge. They traveled around the country visiting the others. Romney lifted up deflated missionaries with silly made-up songs. He taught them to visualize all they could accomplish and challenged them to raise their expectations, McBride said.
Romney increased the conversion goal for the year by 40%, believing they could and would recharge. In the end they surpassed Romney’s goal of baptizing 200 new members into the church.
It wasn’t such a stretch, though, for Romney to distinguish himself. Throughout his life, he’s been rooted in a faith that – whether he talks about it or not – helped shape the man and GOP presidential frontrunner he is today.
‘An American running for president’
Romney hopes to get the nod that eluded him four years ago.
Back then, during his first bid for president, he faced opposition from candidates including Mike Huckabee, a former Baptist minister and favorite of evangelical voters who billed himself as the “Christian leader.”
Romney has faced questions about his faith since first getting into politics in 1994, when he ran for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts against Democratic stalwart Ted Kennedy, whose attack on Romney’s Mormonism failed to gain traction.
Since then Romney, who was later elected Massachusetts governor, has played down his faith on the campaign trail. But he addressed it in a December 2007 speech, hoping to stem voter concerns about his faith and how it might influence him as a president. It was a speech he likened to John F. Kennedy’s famous 1960 speech, when Kennedy was in the running to be America’s first Catholic president.
“Almost 50 years ago another candidate from Massachusetts explained that he was an American running for president, not a Catholic running for president,” Romney said. “Like him, I am an American running for president. I do not define my candidacy by my religion. A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith.”
He said, “No candidate should become the spokesman for his faith,” and that if he were to be elected president, he would “serve no one religion, no one group, no one cause, and no one interest.”
“A president must serve only the common cause of the people of the United States,” he said. “I believe in my Mormon faith, and I endeavor to live by it. My faith is the faith of my fathers. I will be true to them and to my beliefs. Some believe that such a confession of my faith will sink my candidacy. If they are right, so be it.”
Whether Romney’s confession of faith did sink him was a subject of debate. He hoped to deflect the focus on his religion while not speaking to doctrine or specific beliefs. In the whole speech, he only mentioned the word Mormon once.
Just days later, Huckabee would stir the pot.
“Don’t Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?” Huckabee said to a New York Times reporter. Huckabee later apologized for the remark.
This time around, Romney remains strong in the polls and counts among his backers New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who endorsed Romney shortly after saying he wouldn’t join the race.
But Romney also has been distracted by pesky background noise. After introducing Texas Gov. Rick Perry at the recent Values Voter Summit, Pastor Robert Jeffress said Republicans shouldn’t vote for Romney because Mormonism is a “cult.”
Despite such efforts to instill doubt in voters, a recent CNN/ORC International poll showed that a candidate’s Mormon faith made no difference to 80% of Americans, and that 51% believed Mormonism was a Christian religion.
Beyond condemning Jeffress’s comments and Perry’s association with the pastor, Romney’s campaign has made it adamantly clear that it doesn’t want to discuss his faith. Repeated attempts to speak with the candidate, his wife, his children, his siblings - and, really, just anyone – about Romney’s faith journey were denied by campaign headquarters. Even the reins it has on those outside the inner circle appear tight. A local LDS Church leader in Michigan, contacted in hopes of finding childhood friends, forwarded CNN’s inquiry to campaign headquarters - prompting yet another slap down.
“What makes no sense to me is how you continue to push forward in writing about Gov. Romney’s faith journey when we’ve made it clear in every way possible that this is not a story we want to participate in,” campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul wrote in an email.
Mitt Romney -- with wife Ann to his left -- hopes to become the first Mormon U.S. president.
Without talking to him, it’s impossible to say exactly what Romney believes. But what Mormons generally believe is this:
They count themselves as Christian because they accept Jesus Christ as the son of God and believe people are saved through his atonement. They believe the Bible is the word of God, and that the Book of Mormon (subtitled “Another Testament of Jesus Christ”) is, too.
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They believe The Church of Jesus Christ, which existed long ago, was restored by a prophet named Joseph Smith, who founded the LDS Church in 1830. Central to their belief system is that God still reveals truth to modern-day LDS Church prophets, as well as to individuals – Mormon or otherwise.
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They attend weekly services in chapels, also referred to as “wards” or meetinghouses, while their large temples (accessible only to those deemed sufficiently faithful) are utilized for the most important and sacred ceremonies, including baptisms for the dead and celestial marriages - during which couples are “sealed” for eternity. Mormons with temple privileges wear special undergarments as a reminder of their faith, and those who are devoted abstain from alcohol, tea and coffee.
Through faith, prayer and service to others, they strive to be more like Jesus and get closer to God. Latter-day Saints place great emphasis on families, believing that through them – and not alone – people can find a place in the highest level of heavenly society.
Families, Mormons say, can be united forever.
Growing up while abroad
The 19-year-old Mitt Romney who showed up for missionary training was different than the rest.
“Mitt stood out from everyone else,” said Byron Hansen, who flew with Romney to France in July 1966. “He already spoke French pretty darn good, while the rest of us knew ‘bonjour’ and ‘au revoir.’ He immediately jumped out as a leader.”
Romney, like many of the other young men called by church leaders to serve, had finished a year of college before he got his missionary calling. But he’d gone to prestigious Stanford University and came from a privileged and powerful background.
He was worldly, not intimidated, and he was eager to interact with people of different backgrounds, said Hansen, now a car dealer in Brigham City, Utah. “All the rest of us from no-name Utah had never been more than 500 miles away from home.”
Despite the comforts he’d known growing up, Romney wasn’t spoiled. Some apartments that housed missionaries around France lacked heat and water, but had plenty of fleas. Those sorts of conditions likely made Romney appreciate all the more the luxuries of the mission home, located in the ritziest part of Paris, where he worked and lived during the latter part of his two-and-a-half year mission. He and the others there were fed by a Spanish cook and enjoyed the benefits of maids.
What’s more, said fellow missionary and friend Dane McBride, the young men learned what time of day to peer through windows to watch Brigitte Bardot walk her poodles.
The scenery aside, “it was the nicest office I ever worked in,” said McBride, now an allergist and immunologist in Roanoke, Virginia.
Throughout his mission, Romney was the first to get out of bed each morning, forever focused on his goals and the lessons he’d teach, and he stayed gung-ho even when others faltered, Hansen said.
Romney didn’t shy away from approaching anyone. On Saturdays, a free day for missionaries, he’d be done with his laundry by 9 a.m. and coaxing everyone else out the door for bike rides in the mountains, tours in new places or football games.
“He was never one to sit around,” Hansen said. “You had to run to keep up with Mitt.”
He was both pragmatic and creative when it came to sharing Mormon teachings, McBride said.
“Neither of us cared for knocking on doors much,” said McBride, referring to the typical tact for Mormon proselytizing. “But we did it. We did it a lot.”
However, Romney was a big proponent of what McBride called “creative contacting.” In lieu of going door-to-door, he preferred to encourage conversations by building sidewalk kiosks or inviting French locals to play baseball or attend evening parties with American themes – complete with Western wear and guitar strumming.
Being a missionary in largely secular France deepened Romney’s faith because it forced him to wrestle with challenges, steep himself in study and prayer and face plenty of rejection, McBride said. Like others, Romney was no stranger to doors being slammed in his face or getting his behind kicked while heading down apartment stairwells. These sorts of encounters, his friend said, help a person mature and grow.
Establishing a connection with others in the face of adversity is central to the missionary experience, and it’s a skill Romney carries with him today, McBride said.
“Mitt knows how to find common ground with people,” he said. “You learn that being a missionary. … And it’s how you get things done in politics.”
Religious roots that run deep and strong
The groundwork for Romney’s faith journey was laid long before he put on a suit and, armed with his Book of Mormon, boarded a flight for France.
He comes from a long line of Latter-day Saints. Those who like to highlight what makes him different might point to how one of his great-grandfathers fled to Mexico, about 125 years ago, amid U.S. government crackdowns on what Mormons refer to as “plural marriage.” But many multigenerational Mormon families have polygamists in their family tree.
Plural marriage was introduced by church founder Joseph Smith but was officially banned by the church in 1890. Some 38,000 people aligned with fundamentalist offshoots of the LDS Church still practice polygamy, but they are a far cry and completely separate from the 14 million worldwide members in Romney’s church.
Romney’s late father, George Romney, was from modest means. He was born in Mexico to monogamous U.S.-born parents and left during the Mexican Revolution when he was 5. He went on to be CEO and chairman of the now-defunct American Motors Corporation, governor of Michigan and a presidential candidate himself in 1968.
Mitt Romney with his father, George Romney, who made his own mark as a leader in business, the LDS Church and politics.
Growing up Mormon in Michigan made Mitt Romney a member of a distinct minority. There were fewer than 8,000 Mormons in the state in 1945, two years before he was born, according to the LDS Church. It’s been reported that he was the only Mormon in his high school. While Mormon students in Utah could simply stroll across the street from school to attend early morning seminary before the first bell, longtime friend McBride said Romney didn’t have that easy, built-in outlet to strengthen his faith amid peers.
“Neither of us had benefited from that,” said McBride, who also grew up as a Mormon minority in Iowa and North Carolina. “We had been called on in school to defend our faith many times. … I remember from fifth grade on needing to defend my religion.”
Romney’s family, though, was active in the church. In 1952, his father was named Michigan’s first stake president. A stake is comparable to a diocese and has under its umbrella multiple “wards” or congregations, much as a diocese consists of parishes.
The LDS Church does not rely on professional clergy. Instead, church members are called to serve as volunteer leaders while holding down paid jobs. Church leaders rely on other volunteers as advisers. For instance, a ward bishop has two counselors, while a stake president confers with a high council of 12.
Being Michigan’s sole stake president meant Romney’s father – in addition to his full-time corporate work – oversaw ward operations, was the spiritual guide for the Latter-day Saint community and relayed messages from church headquarters in Salt Lake City.
Like many practicing Mormons, the Romneys enjoyed “family home evening” every Monday, a time reserved to pray, study and sing together, McBride said.
Romney has spoken publicly about how his parents took him and his three siblings on mobile American history lessons, McBride said, loading up the family Rambler for cross-country tours to national parks, with stops at places like Mount Rushmore, Valley Forge and Williamsburg.
But McBride said the family also likely visited LDS historical sites, including points along the path westward traveled by Mormon pioneers who followed the call of Joseph Smith’s successor, Brigham Young, and trekked through treacherous conditions to arrive in 1847 in what is now Utah.
While Romney’s parents made sure their children were deeply connected to their country and their faith, Romney didn’t reside in a Mormon bubble. He was part of a bigger and more diverse world.
Ann Davies, the woman he fell for and now calls his wife, was Episcopalian when he met her during high school, and he knew she was the one for him.
After he left for college and then his mission, she began studying Mormonism, attended church with Romney’s parents and converted. He returned from France and proposed to her immediately. After a civil ceremony in Michigan, the two were married and “sealed” for eternity in 1969 during a sacred ceremony in the Salt Lake Temple.
The couple returned to college and began a family at church-owned Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, before moving to Boston, where Romney earned law and business degrees at Harvard.
Serving his LDS community
Romney rose in local church leadership while making his corporate mark. Along the way he applied many of the skills he’d displayed earlier, including his knack as a young missionary for turning challenges into possibilities.
In the 1980s and early 1990s, he served as a ward bishop – or part-time pastor – and stake president for the Boston area.
Romney delivered sermons, counseled couples, and made middle-of-the-night hospital runs. He monitored budgets, weighed welfare needs of immigrants and others, and drove outreach to different faith communities. He showed up at the homes of Latter-day Saints in need of help, taking on tasks such as removing bees’ nests.
Philip Barlow, now the chair of Mormon History and Culture at Utah State University, served as a one of two counselors to Bishop Romney in the early 1980s.
Each Saturday, the counselors would meet with Romney in his home in Belmont, a suburb northwest of Boston. And while the work was serious, it didn’t mean Romney always was. Barlow recalled the time Romney busted out with a rendition of Michael Jackson’s “Billie Jean” and did a formidable moonwalk across the floor.
“The media is always reporting that he can come across as too polished,” Barlow said. “But there’s a real person there.”
Romney also was the kind of leader who built bridges with those suspicious of Mormons. When a chapel under construction in Belmont burned to the ground amid ongoing anti-Mormon sentiment, he turned the perceived arson attack into opportunity.
Non-Mormon churches offered their buildings to accommodate the needs of the displaced Latter-day Saints during the chapel’s reconstruction. While it would have been easier to pick one place to call a temporary home for services, classes and meetings, Romney accepted every viable offer he received – thereby forcing a rotation of interaction with different faith communities.
“It was an inspired move,” said Grant Bennett, who at one time served as a counselor to Romney when he was a bishop and later served on the Boston stake’s high council under Romney when he was president.
Experiencing the kindness of strangers offered relief to Mormons who had been feeling “a little under siege,” said Bennett, who first got to know Romney through church in 1978 and worked with him for five years at Bain & Company, a global consulting firm that Romney eventually led as CEO.
“In a religious context, Mormons are very good at serving each other and are often hesitant to accept help,” he said. “I think Mitt had the fundamental insight … that we’d be better off and [the other churches would] be blessed by helping us.”
It was the sort of decision perhaps born of being in the minority in Michigan and learning early to honor religious pluralism, said Bennett, now president of CPS Technologies, a high-tech manufacturing firm in the Boston area.
On the campaign trail and with media, Romney hopes to focus on matters other than faith.
In his religious roles, Romney had to delegate and call others to serve. Sometimes he believed in people more than they believed in themselves.
Andy Anderson, a retired researcher and writer in Kaysville, Utah, first got to know Romney amid tragedy. It was Anderson’s mother who was killed in the 1968 car wreck in France, and when his father returned to Paris, Anderson, his wife and children went along.
When Romney later moved to Anderson’s neighborhood in Massachusetts, Anderson said he helped Romney and his family settle in.
In 1989, Anderson said he was minding his own research business when Romney, then the Boston stake president, called him for a meeting. A group of new converts Anderson described as “Cambodian boat people” – united formally as a “branch,” which is smaller and less developed than a ward - had suddenly lost its president without warning.
In shock, he listened as Romney said, “Guess who’s the next branch president?”
Anderson said he’d been raised to accept church callings. But between the language barrier, the cultural differences, the poverty and the responsibility, this one seemed too much. He begged and pleaded with Romney. He told him he was unqualified, that he’d “never been president of anything.” He said, “It sounds like a really bad fit, Mitt.” But Romney wasn’t swayed.
“Andy, you know where this comes from,” Romney answered, referring to the Mormon belief that God can reveal truths to individuals. “It’s not me. You go talk to Him and tell me when you’re ready.”
For the next three years Anderson said he oversaw the poorest people in the Boston stake. The overwhelming task “nearly killed me,” he said. But along the way he not only fell in love with the community, he learned to believe in himself and see that he could be a leader.
“I count Mitt as a friend, and it has been a real pleasure to work under him,” he said. “If he was a real pain to work for, I’d know it. I’ve worked for people in the church I couldn’t stand.”
Women’s view of Romney
The Romney reviews from Latter-day Saint women in the Boston area were more mixed.
In the early 1970s, as the feminist movement gained steam, a group of Mormon women began gathering in Cambridge to explore the history of women in their church. They were looking for role models, stories that would inspire them.
With the help of LDS Church historians, they learned about their female ancestors and wrote a book, “Mormon Sisters: Women in Early Utah.” They discovered that a women’s newspaper, Women’s Exponent, was published in the late-19th and early-20th centuries and featured women’s writings that Judy Dushku described as “very feminist in their views.”
“We were reading about women we’d never heard of before,” said Dushku, a Suffolk University professor of government with an interest in gender. She and other “founding mothers” were moved to start a new publication, now a quarterly magazine: Exponent II.
That decision, however, was not received well by the LDS Church, Dushku said. She said the fact that it was independent and had no stamp of approval from church higher-ups, all of them men, rubbed some - including Romney - the wrong way.
Dushku said Romney encouraged friends to tell their wives not to participate. He made it clear he didn’t want the women behind the publication holding meetings on church property. Dushku and the others suspected it was under his direction that copies of the magazine displayed in congregations got dumped in wastebaskets.
The LDS Church is patriarchal in nature. Only men can serve as bishops, stake presidents and in higher leadership roles, including the combined post of church president and prophet. Only men are welcome in the priesthood, which in Mormon circles means having the authority, for example, to perform baptisms and offer sacramental blessings.
Dushku decided she could live with this and remains a faithful Mormon. She said she and the others simply wanted an outlet for women to discuss issues unique to them. And while what they created may have seemed “radical” back then, she says there are Mormon women bloggers today who push boundaries much more than Exponent II ever did.
What got to Dushku about Romney was less his reaction to the magazine and more how she saw him treat women he was in a position to comfort and support as a local church leader.
Dushku has told the story of a woman, a mother of four, who was pressured by then-Bishop Romney to go forward with a pregnancy despite advice from doctors that a medical complication made it too dangerous.
She also recalled the story of a meeting between Romney and a woman whose ex-husband had been excommunicated from the church because of numerous affairs he’d had while serving as a bishop.
The woman asked Dushku to accompany her to the meeting, where Romney encouraged the woman to forgive her philandering ex so he could be re-baptized into the church and marry another woman.
The problem, Dushku said, is that the husband had never bothered to apologize to the wife he’d hurt, a fact she said Romney didn’t seem to care much about.
Since speaking out to media recently, Dushku said she’s been flooded with responses from Facebook friends. Most of the reactions are positive, thanking her for her courage.
But some friends have suggested she back off.
“How can you blame someone who has so many responsibilities?” one friend wrote. “He was young,” said another. “People change.”
Dushku said she affords Romney the possibility he may have changed, that he might handle such situations differently today.
“But compassion is a character quality,” she said. “I doubt he’s much different now.”
Her take on Romney, though, doesn’t jibe with that of Helen Claire Sievers, executive director of Harvard’s WorldTeach program, which brings volunteer teachers to developing countries.
Sievers, who’s been involved with Exponent II on and off since its inception, was the Boston stake activity director when Romney was stake president. She recalled being at a meeting in Dushku’s house in Watertown, outside of Boston, when women began wondering aloud about how their local church might better empower women.
“Often leadership in the Mormon church tends to pull far to the right, to out-orthodox the orthodox,” said Sievers, who later proposed to Romney that he should meet with the Boston LDS women to hear their frustrations and suggestions. Romney was willing to have such a meeting, even though it bucked the comfort level of church headquarters.
“I was really impressed that Mitt felt strongly that even if he could get in trouble with the hierarchy, he really wanted to hear what the women that were under his stewardship had to say so that they would feel as comfortable as possible in church,” Sievers said.
As a result of the meeting, which drew more than 150 participants, Sievers said adjustments were made, including allowing women to say opening prayers at church meetings. Romney didn’t have the power to change church doctrine, but Sievers said he could and did bend the norm to make women feel heard and more respected.
“Many Mormon men wouldn’t make that choice,” she said.
Serving outside the stake and ward
In his fulltime work life, Romney showed that his commitment to serving others extended beyond those in his ward or stake. His religious values came through in business decisions – sometimes trumping opportunities for financial gain.
Robert Gay, who was once a managing partner at Bain Capital, the venture capital firm Romney founded, recalled how Romney refused to put investment dollars into a deal with Artisan Entertainment because he didn’t want to profit from R-rated films.
But of greater note to Gay - who once served on the Boston stake’s high council with Romney - was something Romney did for him in 1996.
After Gay’s 14-year-old daughter went missing for three days in New York, Romney shut down Bain Capital in Boston and flew about 50 employees to New York to help find her.
The girl, who lived with her family in Connecticut, disappeared after going to a concert in Manhattan. Romney and the other Bain Capital executives put their “$1 billion investment firm” on hold, created a “war room” at a hotel, paid to print 200,000 fliers, set up a toll free hotline number and enlisted the help of a private investigator, the Boston Globe reported at the time.
They canvassed streets and talked to runaways. The girl was found in a New Jersey home, “dazed from a disorienting dose of a drug,” the Globe reported.
It’s not a story Gay likes to retell, though he did record a video testimonial about it during Romney’s 2008 presidential bid. Today, Gay would rather offer other insights, including the time another Bain Capital partner suddenly fell very ill and was hospitalized. Romney was the first person to show up for a visit at Massachusetts General Hospital.
Gay now lives in West Palm Beach, Florida, and manages an equity fund with Jon Huntsman Sr., father of another GOP Mormon presidential hopeful. Gay called Romney “a devout Christian,” someone who has always been committed to “leading a good and purposeful life.”
What faith means for future
Romney, like the other prospective candidates for president, will remain under the microscope in the months ahead.
His past will be combed, his policies scrutinized, his record examined.
How much his Mormon faith plays into his political journey remains to be seen. But whether he likes it, whether his campaign can control it, the fact that he may be on track to become the first Mormon president in U.S. history will garner attention.
It’s a reality that Romney friends like McBride acknowledge, even if it disappoints them.
“The issues of his church are not the issues of this country. Those are personal issues,” he said. “I hate to see further articles [about his faith], but, on the other hand, what do you do?”
A mormon president??? Next thing ya know we'll have a muslim president bwahbwah
Mormons do not believe in the same fundamentals as Christians and I'm surprised how supposely experienced investigative reporters miss the obvious. They do not believe Jesus Christ is the son of God but "a" son of God. They do not believe that Jesus is God which is absolutely fundamental to the Christian faith.
Wrong, Bclear. We believe that Jesus is the only begotten son of God and we also believe that Jesus was the God of the Old Testament. Can't be more clear than that!
I thought all Christians believed to be sons and doughters of God. Don't they call each other "brother" and "sister"? if so, then Jesus is not the only son of God...what am I missing?
Sorry, but you should do your own research. Have you ever been to an LDS meeting or talked to a Mormon and listened? We believe Christ is the Son of God, The Firstborn and the Savior of the World. We are all sons and daughters of God, but only Christ is the "only begotten of the Father in the flesh." He was perfect, and he atoned for our sins. No other could have done what He did.
I'm a Mormon, and that means i'm a Christian, and no matter how many times people tell me i'm not, i still am.
BClear – your claim is inaccurate. Mormons believe that Jesus is the Only Begotten of the Father and is God. God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost make up the Godhead. For correct information on Mormon beliefs, go to the source.
Bclear, perhaps you should look a little deeper rather than just buying into the rhetoric taught to you about Mormonism in your own church. Are you suggesting that we are not all children of God? That Jesus is the ONLY son of God? And wait, don't you believe that in fact Jesus is not the Son of God, but is God–as you just stated? So do you believe he is the Son of God or that he is not? Does he have a father or is he his Father? I'm confused. Do you even know where that concept of the trinity was developed? Do you know how little support there is for it in the bible? A couple of passages that speaks to the Father and the Son being one. Yet in the same chapter speaking that we all be one with them. Can you explain this? Can you explain the trinity? Can you explain how Jesus and his father are the same?
Let's be clear. Mormons believe that Jesus is the Son of God. That Jesus is God. That God the Father is the father of Jesus. That they are distinct separate beings. Jesus came to this earth and suffered and died for our sins. This happened in the garden as well as on the cross. He died. He was resurrected. He made salvation possible.
That is not correct.
There is no god... So stop worrying and enjoy life :)
Sircuts, We just believe what Paul wrote to the Phillipians and Romans that, "As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God." I believe that every knee means every knee. Paul believed that eventually every person will repent of his wrong doing and confess that Jesus is the Christ – even a man like Hitler will eventually realize the error of his ways and repent.
Mormon neighbor has done more to help me and my family than the entire block of Christians combined. LDS are good people.
Ok! cnn you can't block me just last week Two Mormons came to my house (What PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT ME IS I HATE LIAR LIARS ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CONFUSE People AN DILUTE REALITY Which Is Why Haven't watched FOX NEWS IN 8 YEARS) .They Insulted Me For My belief in atheism.I Explained that originally man believed in many gods(Egyptian Greek,and Roman) then just one (First Jews Then Came Christians And Muslims). the natural cycle would be for man to grow up Stop Believing In Gods All Together.They said that it's stupid for any one to say theres no god They have no proof.Ok After Going Crazy i called them PHONY For never getting mad or angry OR CURSING.Then I Insulted Joseph Smith for being a HABITUAL LIAR.After Telling them That evolution is right.And Their Religion Is RIGHT NEXT TO SCIENTOLOGY In Made Up Horse Crap Then kicking them out.I Started To Think (NO Not about god He doesn't exist)But of science He said no one can proof there's no god. But Science is Can be Proof in If You Have The Time,Equipement and knowledge you can try to disprove every scientific Conclusion ever made if you have the time and resources.The Fact that the God Is A Unknown Fills Me With skepticism.No Hard Proof He exist Makes I Flawed science
As you say, they may be "phony" for not getting mad or cursing.... or it may be that their hearts have genuinely been changed as a result of their system of beliefs.
CNN, what is WRONG with you! Where was the article, "Shaping of a candidate: Obama and 20 years with Reverend Wright." or Gingrich and Catholicism (include how it shaped his marriages and adultery), or Perry and evangelicalism, or Ron Paul and his religion whatever it is. How about we just stop mentioning religion all and everyone vote for the best candidate. Please stop making a big deal about Romney's religion. I actually think you are doing it to make the evangelicals look silly because they are such religion bigots.
Most of the people need to really look at what they are writing. Are you kidding me. If you want to find out about the mormon church go to either http://www.lds.org or mormon.org. I am so sick of people spreading lies and hatred about the mormon church either those people are ignorant or bigots. Dont talk about something you dont understand. First off yes there are literally 1000 of mormons who serve in the military. Mormons love God and country and have from the beginning even when they were persecuted by their own government. And for the person that says go to Exmormon and calls the mormon religion a cult you need to get your facts strait. Mormonism is not a cult it is the 4th largest church in the US and one of the fastest growing religions in the world. The way you find out about a religion is not listening to a bunch of bigots but by asking memebers of the church what they believe. Do you ask a ford dealer about a chevy? Give me a break people. Also those who claim to be christian what does the savior say about how you should treat other people. Also the LDS church if you look at it closely believes that it is Christ church restored to the earth. IT is the only church that follows the same organization that Christ established when he was on the earth. There is a scripture in the new testament that says "God is the same yesterday, today, and forever" Mormons dont spread lies about other churchs they say is you want to know if the church is true the only person you should ask is God himself and he will answer that question for you...
I'm sorry but you protesteth too much. Much of what has been posted are inconvenient truths about the Mormon religion that you all simply choose to ignore, overlook or claim we "don't understand." I put the challenge to Jennifer and I'll put it to you. There are essentially two issues here. First is the origin of your religion. It was created by one man, who had a reputation for telling lies and who was desperate to make a name for himself. He deciphered supposed golden tablets that he showed to no one, written in a language that does not exist, and made factual claims that have been proven to be patently false. Second,the LDS differs from all other religions in the degree to which the church controls its members. Nearly all Christians believe that one gets eternal life by belief in God, Jesus and Baptism for the forgiveness of sins. Some also believe that one will be judged by one's actions. None, other than the LDS, believe that one (male only, and until recent time, white only) can only get a pass into the celestial realm if given by the LDS church, after the believer proves that he abides by church doctrine in all aspects of his life. This gives the LDS an unprecedented amount of control over its members. Mitt Romney cannot credibly claim that he could separate church and state in his mind. That would be impossible for him to do. In the dark hours when critical decisions need to be made, Romney will turn to the LDS leadership for guidance. Honestly, nothing could scare me more.
@Pam. If you want to be consistent with yourself, answer this: why do you believe in a religion that was started by a convicted fellon who was thrown in jail for proven crimes, who mislead other people into belive they could become fishers if joined him (when he was a trained carpenter) and who was sentenced to death for all those crimes? How could people believe such con-man?
I don't. Your point about the credibility of the Bible is valid. There is, however, lots of evidence that certain historical facts in the Bible are true. Virtually everything about the natural world in the Bible has been proven not true. But that doesn't explain why one would choose to believe someone with a reputation for lying.
Name one natural fact in the Bible that is proven not true
Mormon .org for those who prefer fact over fiction.
Nicest people I know are Mormon's, but I think they prefer to be called Latter-Day Saints or members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Mormon's is a nickname.
Would you object to a Mosque being built on your child's school campus? :)
If you grow up in Idaho, Utah, or Mesa, Arizona you will be subjected to Mormon influence right at public school:
1) The Mormon seminary is on or adjacent to the public school campus (in my case it was on, and I mean ON, campus).
2) Taxpayers pay for parking lots, cross walks, crossing lights, etc for the Mormon seminaries.
3) Mormon students are given credit for seminary courses. In the old days they were allowed to skip American History (So they wouldn't learn the truth about Mormon militia insurrections?)
It creates an atmosphere of intimidation and religious pressure for non-Mormon students (Mormons called us Gentiles).
Mitt Romney supports this kind of blurring of church and state – at least for his own religion.
Ask Mitt if he will support Mosques on those public campuses too. ;)
That's because the Mormons were persecuted and walked across the U.S. with all of their belongings and carved a wonderful civilization out of harsh desert territories. People often move to those places because of the safe, family environment and then complain about living among the Mormon's. Give me a break!
Mormon seminaries are purchased with green money and are private property. At our school there is a Catholic seminary right across the street.
Mormons are raised believing they are the one and only correct religion (just like most religions) and they go to great lengths to convert as many people as possilble. It seems that this is thier number one goal. I know from personal experience, my ex-girlfriend's family tried all the tricks in the books to try to get me to set a baptism date...never happened but they sure new how to brainwash and trick a 16 year old boy. I'm 30 years old now and have paid very close attention to this group since I almost slipped into the chruch. They are very nice people, but will try to convert you any chance they get. Why should we believe that Romney won't try to do the same? Please explain, I would like to hear from a mormon.
I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ. We do place a significant emphasis on sharing our beliefs with others – we beleive we have something very beneficial to offer. However, I apologize if you had an experience where you felt taken advantage of or unduly pressured – that isn't something that we preach in our church. One of our core tenants is, "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."
The way you know a Mormon president wouldn't attempt to preach to you or convert you is to look at those members of the Church of Jesus Christ currently serving in Washington. Harry Reid, Orrin Hatch, and many others haven't been accused of proselytizing their religion through politics – it isn't something that we support.
Jimbo, Our way of life brings us happiness and success and we want to share this happiness with you. What, you hate happiness?
Eukal, I think the gays and lesbians in California would beg to differ. The LDS is legendary for influence peddling and has it's hands in all manner of politics. The faithful vote almost unanimously as a single block, and they give a tremendous amount of money to their pet politicians. I am not merely talking about the members. I mean the church itself. But the real issue is not that the LDS will seek to influence Romney. It's that Romney, as a true believer, will seek guidance from the LDs in making the crucial decision the President must make. I have serious doubts about how religious Harry Reid is. And he really can't do anything on his own. Nor could Orrin Hatch. The same cannot be said for the President of the United States.
Some patriot...He worships 2 known Traitors who were charged with taking arms against our country, has 5 sons none have served in the Military and was born to Nazi sympathizers...Adolf Hitler was baptized in 1993 by the LDS Church while Romney was a Bishop....I guess a Mormon heaven wouldn't be complete without good old Adolf. what about the thousands who were killed by Mormons for simply "Passing Through" Utah? Did you Baptize them?
"Martial law is hereby declared to exist in this Territory...and no person shall be allowed to pass or repass into, through or from this territory without a permit from the proper officer." -Bringham Young ... Governor Of Utah before being forced to step down or be convicted of Treason.
From p. 21:
Obama is a Christian in name only therefore he does not believe in all of its mumbo jumbo. Romney, unfortunately, does believe in the Joe Smith hype which is disturbing in the 21st century.
Part 1 – the Infamous Angelic Cons (all involved religions noted)
Joe Smith had his Moroni. (a huge Romney mental minus in that he somehow believes Moroni actually exists- not good for someone who wants to be president)
Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;
Mohammed had his Gabriel (this "tin-kerbell" got around).
Jesus and his family had Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day dem-on of the de-mented.
The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.
Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these "pretty wingie thingies" to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.
Then there is this:
"Latter-day Saints also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam (the first man) when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah." (More problems for the mental status of Romney.)
I'm glad you didn't help write the Bill of Rights, or it sounds like we would all be stuck following your particular system of beliefs.
Dear M. Romney,
An updated prayer just for you:
The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)
Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????
I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)
Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,
He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.
Love how Mitt rolls up his sleeves and gets the job done. Willing to listen to all sides of an issue... and not a mean spirited person. Not perfect, but certainly presidential material. He has my vote.
What you believe goes directly to your judgement and decision making abilities. If one buys into the mormon fantasy, including Smith's description of acquiring the "golden plates" and their translation by him, then that person is extremely gullible and very poor presidential material. It is one of the silliest things I've ever read.
The same could be objectively said of one who "buys into" the story of ten commandments written on tablets of stone by the finger of God (I haven't seen those tablets... have you). Yet all of our founding fathers and all of our former presidents have "bought into" this story at least to some degree.
This guy does circles around the other GOP candidates. Wow! Amazing life. I can see him being a good president and would like to know more about his businesses and outreach efforts.
In his magic Mormon undies
Vegas.... religious articles of clothing are irrelevant to the presidency. Jews wear kippah's. Muslims wear veils.
I'm not Mormon, but that is the most moronic statement I've ever heard. You're an idiot.
Romney is a specialist at turning things around and that is exactly what we need right now. The country is going the wrong way.
Very well written. Mr. Romney has lived a life of service... and his "Life" experiences have been significant to help shape his character. I, for one, think he will make a great president.
GOD IS MERCIFUL!
Too bad most "people of faith" don't practice what they preach.
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