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November 14th, 2011
04:29 PM ET
Faces of Faith: Changes to the Catholic MassBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN)–Big changes are coming to the Catholic Mass on Thanksgiving weekend as the church enters the liturgical season of advent. The changes are to English translations of the original Latin of the Roman Missal, which guides Catholic worship services. Congregants used to reciting the Mass from memory will have to utilize pew cards with updates to the Mass. In this week's installment of Faces of Faith, CNN's Athena Jones explores what the changes will mean for Catholic congregants and clergy. Over at Time Magazine Elizabeth Dias gives a breakdown of the changes as well and points out, "If anything, it'll be a new way to tell who hasn't been to church in a while." Watch CNN Newsroom weekdays 9am to 3pm ET and weekends. For the latest from the CNN Newsroom click here. |
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Nice going , Pope. Drive away more of your flock in a futile attempt to exert your control over the masses. The Catholic church makes changes in policy to keep church goers confused. If you've ever been in a Catholic church you'd recognize that everyone is running on autopilot. They've been conditioned to go and participate through guilt and the fear of going to Hell.
There is a mass awakening happening and it has nothing to do with Catholic doctrine. The Catholic church is doomed to failure by the actions of its leaders.
Yep, I know exactly what you're talking about!
It's time for RCC flock to come out slumber. They have the Bible, and know how to read! And once people are wiling to let go of what they've been taught, and let God show them, they will be able to understand without hindrances. Go IS CALLING His people out, of those who are His will hear His voice and follow Him and will follow no man! This is the fulfilment of what The Scriptures teach, especially for our days.
Meant to say: God IS CALLING His people out, and those who are His will hear...
I am not interested in the supernaturalism of Christianity, but am very interested in the study of the early history of the group. I am always happy to talk to others that are also interested in this topic. My interest specifically is up till perhaps a generation or two after Irenaeus. But I would say I am interested in anything from the Maccabean revolt up till about 384CE when Christianity became the official religion of the Roman empire.
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(1 Cor. 2:14). This is why we call all of mankind to repentance.
Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).
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I read it and its FULL OF LIES! You are a LIAR which means you are NOT a true christian!
Being that you are promoting this heresy against Jesus's one and only true church, you will be banished to hell fire for eternity.
Ok, even though I was raised Catholic, I don't actually believe that, I typed it to make a point. AvdBerg, seriously, can't you see how crazy people like you come off? Why can't you simply respect other's religious beliefs and move forward with your own life?
Christianity would be such a good religion if it weren't for all the idiot Christians who muck it up.
Thinly veiled idolatry? Check.
Polytheism disguised as trinitarianism? Check.
Ceremonial cannibalism? Check.
Doesn't sound like things have changed too much....
And we have ourselves our first bigot. That was quick.
bigotry? Those are all quite valid critiques. Sorry if you can't handle it.
@Neritter
"Veneration" when prostrating yourself before a statue and praying to it (or through it, according to dogma) is idolatry to me.
If The Son lacks the characteristics of omnipotence and omniscience and is born of a human mother, He would be a demi-god – not THE full fledged God. Hence the faith is polytheistic.
A priest intones "the body and the blood of Christ" when handing over the eucharist, which the supplicant accepts as being transubstantiated into literal flesh and blood.
Ceremonial cannibalism is an accurate description of the rite.
"Thinly veiled" ? Heh heh. Le's face it, their second commandment says : “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of ANYTHING that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth". However they rationalize it, they are breaking their own laws.
You worship Jesus right? Would he approve of your bigotry? No he wouldn't.
If your an Atheist or an Agnostic just leave the Deists alone. I too do not believe in a supernatural creator, but I also don't find it necessary to troll religious blogs to infuriate Catholics. They (well, technically we, but like I said, I don't believe, I just go because I'm Italian) have enough problems to deal with as is, leave them alone.
I have the original Latin mass just in case anyone wants it.. I will post it here on CNN.
In your ear with my entire foot gear. Up your nose with a rubber hose. Take the whole bottle of whatever it is you take to be so stupid maybe you can revert to be like your ancestry... but then you already are .. aren't you?
Let them make all the changes they want.
When they die they'll just die anyways like all of us. These changes that they want are all ceremonial anyways. People are always keen on protecting ceremony more than anything. Establishing a routine is what humankind is about anyways. It wouldn't matter what they do to try to preserve their little corner of unreason. Sooner or later as time passes religion will fall aside.
Knowledge will trump over ridiculous ceremony and idiotic quotes anyways.
I see knowledge is already getting the better of you too.
I am no Christian, and i am opposed to all churches. But there is a lot of intellegence here by the lucid and articulate athiests. I hope and know they will not receive the same judgement.
I've never met an inteligent believer.
Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son: "I've never met an inteligent believer."
Too bad you didn't have the chance to meet the cosmologist who came up w/the big bang theory. He was a Catholic priest.
@b4bigbang
I don't understand your reply to Tom Tom. She said SHE has never met an intelligent believer. That does not mean that there are not now nor have every been intelligent believers.
Not my post. Just herb the impotent trying to appear better than he is.
Furthermore, it isn't true-I know a number of Christians who are quite intelligent. They're much too busy doing something constructive to post on some anonymous board about how good they are and how everyone who isn't just like them is going to hell.
"John Richardson"- give it time, they come up with much worse, and we havent even gotten into the thick of it yet
Alex do you have a personal relationship with Christ?
Th thick of what?
Blasphemy is ONLY in the mind of the person who thinks it exists and nowhere else.
Alex, why such venom and anger? Love your brothers and sisters.
Alex, do you enjoy delicious crab meet dipped in warm melted butter?
*meat*
Alex, why are you prejudiced against crabs?
"smelly socks"- your comments affect me not, but yourself only. Have fun in the afterlife
Final phrase of post by Alex is a form of Pascal's Wager, a common fallacy.
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/
Can't be an afterlife if there is no God dum sh-it.
There can be a god and no afterlife, an afterlife and no god, both an afterlife and a god or neither an afterlife nor a god.
But there can't be crabs with no melted butter.
I am no catholic, and i am opposed to the catholic church. But there is a lot of blasphemy here by the horrid and profane atheists. I hope and know they will receive the same judgement
Post by Alex is a form of Pascal's Wager, a common fallacy.
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/
There is no God, and I have it on good authority that Jesus was a child molester and murderer.
Well, Alex, I only saw one person calling for the use of weapons of mass destruction against a sect in this thread, and that wasn't by an atheist.
heres a new one
destroy all religions with wmds
there u go
A nice change would be nuking that scarlet harlot on seven hills to dust after all the suffering it caused over the course of centuries to protestants they tried to convert. End the mystery babylon.
this is a pointless article. faces of faith as a headline – great – but wheres the cream filling!
A NICE CHANGE WOULD BE TO GET RID OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ALTOGETHER.
Why?
Why, to show you how stupid you are, Uncouth. Do we need a better reason?
Elisabeth Dias, "If anything, it'll be a new way to tell who hasn't been to church in a while."
How useful for a judgmental pointy nose!
For the next change to finally bring Christianity into the 21st century:
The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)
Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????
I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)
Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,
He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
Jerusalem.
Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.
Amen
More cut and paste from you? At least copy some new quotes that you saw someone else write if you're not original enough to do your own, which is always appears to be the case.
The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)
A few of the studies of said NT historians and theologians:
o 1. Historical Jesus Theories, earlychristianwritings.com/theories.htm – the names of many of the contemporary historical Jesus scholars and the ti-tles of their over 100 books on the subject.
2. Early Christian Writings, earlychristianwritings.com/
– a list of early Christian doc-uments to include the year of publication–
3. Historical Jesus Studies, faithfutures.org/HJstudies.html,
– "an extensive and constantly expanding literature on historical research into the person and cultural context of Jesus of Nazareth"
4. Jesus Database, faithfutures.org/JDB/intro.html–"The JESUS DATABASE is an online annotated inventory of the traditions concerning the life and teachings of Jesus that have survived from the first three centuries of the Common Era. It includes both canonical and extra-canonical materials, and is not limited to the traditions found within the Christian New Testament."
5. Josephus on Jesus mtio.com/articles/bissar24.htm
6. The Jesus Seminar, mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/seminar.html#Criteria
7. Writing the New Testament- mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/testament.html
8. Health and Healing in the Land of Israel By Joe Zias
joezias.com/HealthHealingLandIsrael.htm
9. Economics in First Century Palestine, K.C. Hanson and D. E. Oakman, Palestine in the Time of Jesus, Fortress Press, 1998.
So if they change the font in their weekly newsletter, we can expect CNN to cover the massive change in doctrine? Great.
Sorry, this is HUGE news. It means people who don't go to church (albeit Catholics) will be lost when they DO go. Which will make them NOT go, because it's unfamiliar and uncomfortable. And the changes seem frivolous, and random, like change for the sake of change. The Church has enough problems, why would they do something stupid like this? I've read the changes and they are ridiculous.
Exactly. It's because the Pope is a very conservative guy, who would make them do it in Latin, if he could. The Romans pulled the cultural rug out from under their people in the 60's, and now they are doing it again. They are so stupid, they don't even understand their cultural heritage is all they have left.
Meh
I'll second that.
third
meh cubed and squared
cnn sux