 |
|
|
|
|
November 19th, 2011
11:21 AM ET
In video, White House shooting suspect calls himself 'modern-day Jesus'By Mariano Castillo and Greg Botelho, CNN (CNN) - Weeks before his arrest on a charge of attempting to assassinate President Barack Obama, an Idaho man taped a video pitch for Oprah Winfrey - expressing his contempt for government, offering secrets to solving global problems and proclaiming himself to be "the modern-day Jesus Christ." The video, released Friday to CNN by Idaho State University, features a man dressed in all black, with brown hair, a beard and a crucifix hanging around his neck. "My name is Oscar Ortega from Idaho Falls, Idaho, and I feel like I am the perfect candidate to get cast on your show because not only do I have a solution to make a huge impact on this world with small changes to our daily lives, I also have with me the answer to worldwide peace," he states. The previous Friday, a witness in Washington described to investigators hearing about "eight sounds of popping noise" and seeing "puffs of air" from a car that was registered to Ortega. One bullet hit a window on the White House but was stopped by bulletproof glass, the Secret Service said, while another was found on the White House exterior. Read the full story here.
Next entry »The gospel according to Herman Cain
« Previous entryCrystal Cathedral to be sold to Roman Catholic Church
|
  About this blog
The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke and Eric Marrapodi with daily contributions from CNN's worldwide newsgathering team and frequent posts from religion scholar and author Stephen Prothero.  |
|
|
|
© 2012 Cable News Network. Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
| Advertise with us | About us | Help | Advertising Practices
Chad wins again! Kudos!
Chad, it is incredibly sad and pathetic that you are your only cheerleader. You don't win by making up fake handles to pat yourself on the back with the same, tired arguments you continually post without listening to or regarding all the rebuttles. This might work on a predominatly christian forum, but here your lack of understanding and need to "win" a debate that you clearly lost is astounding and sad.
Hey-I am NOT Chad.
Tsk, Tsk what else can I say- you are soooooo wrong O 'bout not wanting to believe in God.
Chad-You reminded me so much of what David must have felt facing those roaring philistines, but David knew that he knew who was with him. Kudos!
Saying you're not chad is pretty much announcing you ARE chad. Considering the only time your handle pops up is to congraulate chad on a non-existant win. The only other alternative is you know chad personally and at his behest you give him a cheer now and then. Either way its truely pathetic. If you have an opinion notChad lets hear it. Why not actually articulate what you want to say instead of just being chads little bi.tchboy.
II'm sure Jesus would be on this blog arguing for himself if he were alive again. Unless he was captured for breaking the law...you know that happened to him once already – you'd think he would have remembered that and not been so reckless.
Jesus was clearly smarter than most of the folks around him back in the day, and his following was very small and weak – but if they were not he would not have been crucified right?
How would you know if he is here now? Would you believe him if he told you? Would you be certain that he was a liar or a nutcase?
Jesus
Chad, this is so pathetic it almost makes me feel sorry for you. What a lame-o.
So lets nail him up!
I'll get my sword.
Bu this time, lets use a fourth nail between his eyes. It's the ONLY way to stop the Jesus Zombie cycle.
Let's run him through a giant meat grinder first, then bath the sausage in napalm and roast marshmallows to it.
This makes perfect sense. Every christian I've known is rude, self-righteous, judgmental and sickening. But then, everyone other religious person I've known is the same. Today for example, whilst I was imputing coins into the machine to be able to enter the parking ramp, a vile christian woman flew into the structure and stopped inches from my bumper. She had her window down in her $50k car, yelling at me to hurry up and cursing like a sailor in her starched hair and business suit. Luckily for her, she can just ask the great Jeebus (Oscar Ortega) to forgive her and it's all good. I vomit and defecate on all religion.
Fap?
What do you expect from herbie the t urd burglar?
Funny that Chad is too dishonest to answer the question I asked him.
theres a name for folks like you on blogs who demand answers from random strangers and who will follow them for days....and never quite figure out that the person they are chasing (chad in this case) is a slimy person who cannot face a hard question but can only squirm around and run away.
u r wasting your time. go fap or something. its good for u.
Go fap something yourself, you gormless f*ctart.
The answer is this: 42
Did you figure out the difference between the morning-after pill and RU486, Chard? Or are you going to pretend you don't see these posts?
Because you look like an idiot when you argue your case with erroneous information.
too bad as far as some dedicated spiritual Muslims the second coming of Jesus has already occurred, now to gather the sheep under done banner, and lead the world out of the chaos it's found it self in where no one has any certainty of God , or they would not do such acts as this self proclaimed coco has done.
Developing signs of a Christian AlQaida !!
One sure hopes not.
How you doing, man?
Hardly: I would posit that Ortega is a deeply disturbed, perhaps delusional, young man. His actions no more reflect Christianity than the actions of Al Qaeda reflect Islam.
And by the way, I am neither Christian nor Muslim–I respectfully disagree with both faiths, but I reject the "Religion is teh evil!" argument that so many non-believers apply to them.
you should see a doctor about that. sounds like a bad rash.
I suspect that Chad does not see the illogic / inconsistency of saying the god exists but allah doesn't...
That's just one in a very, very long list of things Chad doesn't see....
Chad, YOU are claiming that Hitler's body was destroyed. Hans assures me that Hitler poisoned himself, was buried, but was resurrected after the Red Army passed through and ascended to Asgard. Prove that this is false.
Where was Hitler buried?
In Grant's Tomb.
You're doing a HORRIBLE job of dissuading the faithful believers in Hitler's resurrection, Chad. His tomb had to remain a secret till the Red Army passed by. THEN he rose from the dead and a little later ascended to Asgard. Hans assures me that this is the literal truth. I of course think it's total nonsense. But how can I PROVE to Hans that it didn't happen?
@John Richardson "You're doing a HORRIBLE job of dissuading the faithful believers in Hitler's resurrection, Chad. His tomb had to remain a secret till the Red Army passed by. THEN he rose from the dead and a little later ascended to Asgard. Hans assures me that this is the literal truth. I of course think it's total nonsense. But how can I PROVE to Hans that it didn't happen?"
=>Who helped Hans bury hitler in this secret tomb? Was it just Hans alone? Is Hans revealing the location of this tomb, or is he keeping it secret?
No! No! No! Chad, listen! Hans read about it in a book that was written just a few decades after the event. The book said that it was the absolute truth on the matter. So there ya have it!
John Richardson "No! No! No! Chad, listen! Hans read about it in a book that was written just a few decades after the event. The book said that it was the absolute truth on the matter. So there ya have it!"
=>what was the assertion in the book? You keep dodging the question
what exactly is the claim?
was he buried, if so where?
was he not buried, if not, what happened to the body?
it's simple, and you know your dodging the question.. details and examples are your kryptonite John
And apostrophes are yours, Chad. Why don't you answer the question I asked you?
All atheists here that hold a Advanced degree please raise your hand and specifiy your line of specialization.
All Christians with only a high school degree or lower raise your hands.
Nobody raise their hands. It only proves 2 undisputable facts facts that: 1.) There is NO "atheists here that hold a Advanced degree" nor has a "line of specialization" and...2.)There is NO "Christians with only a high school degree or lower".
I have an MBA
I have a PDA.
Too late boozos!
Chad, that we don't yet know what caused the universe is not proof that "God did it."
So this guy thinks he's Jesus. I'm surprised he isn't a Republican primary candidate. He's no nuttier than they are.
He TOLD Rick Perry to run for President........and Herman Cain..........and Michelle Bachmann.......and Rick Santorum.
He told Huckabee to go home and shut up.
I don't understand any of this either, because He told ME not to vote for ANY of them.
@ Frank Bund, 12:41, Point? If we read the scripures carefuly: we know this could not be Jesus.
Bo,
"If we read the scripures carefuly: we know this could not be Jesus."
How many Christians read the scriptures carefully? Most of them even think the Bible says it condemns abortion.
@Observer, what has this to to do with abortion? This has to do with someone who looks like he is high on something that has nothing to do with Jesus of the Bible or God.
Bo,
I pointed out that Christians don't read the Bible closely.
IIf Jesus did walk the Earth today no one would believe him any more than you believe this man is Jesus. He would be locked away in a nuthouse doing some Thorazine Shuffle...so tell us all, how do you know that this man is not your god? Are you smarter and better than your god?
How do we know this wasn't the Lord Jesus? When Jesus comes the second time, He will not return to a particular place on earth. In fact, He will not actually touch the earth. "For the Lord Himself will desend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together whith them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall be always be with the Lord" (1Thes 4:16, 17).
Right. It would have been more plausible if he had parachuted out of the sky with a megaphone.
Bo, and your point is............................?
Shall I quote something from Twilight? Both it and the bible are fiction and equally useless.
I knew he wasn't Jesus when I noticed that he's alive and Jesus is dead. I would have known he wasn't any sort of savior or even religious leader of note from his video had I seen it before the event, but by the time I heard of the guy, the talk was all about him shooting at the White House, That's a pretty big hint that the guy ain't exactly prince of peace material, eh?
@Bo
Back in the early eighties, a fella named Benjamin Creme said that the "Day of Declaration" was nigh.
Christ was to come on television and, using the world's satellite networks, establish a telepathic rapport with humanity.
This was supposed to create a psychic tsunami of love that would trigger thousands of miracle cures.
Sounds a bit like what you're talking about...
This is the biggest lie and set up in a long time folks. This guy is an operative of the New World Order. How crazy can we make him look right. NOT. Its always the crazy religious guy right. Sorry not gonna believe it.
No, sometimes it's the crazy guy who believes in the existence of a "new world order" conspiracy.
Wasn't New World Order a boy band from the 90s? Didn't Justin Timberlake get his start with them?
I thought Justin Timberlake started with The Illuminati.
Makes you wonder about those people who wander around, lost. You know, the one's that most people say "Oh, he's harmless." about.
Like you?
I know a lot of guys named Jesus. Some of them do my neighbor's lawn.
I did not have se.xual relations with his mother!!!!
But your bird did.
The only thing it "proves" Is that in a nation of 300,000,000 there will be crazies (like the Tucson shooter) and some with think they are God or Jesus (like this fellow). 1% = 3,000,000 .01% = 3.000,000 .001% = 300,000 1/10th or .001% = 30,000 (.0001%) ... In other words it's unavoidable. That's why we have a Secret Service and bullet proof glass. That .0001% is a "needle in a haystack."
Trying to put a percentage on how many people think they are God is a waste of mathematics. You have no idea how many think they are God without announcing it.
I have no doubt that the FBI has a file on "RightTurnClyde." A thick one with lots of entries showing how crazy he acts in public.
"I don't Trust in God"- Loughner
So, numbers are your best friend when you use them but they can be completely ignored when mathematical arguments against the bible are presented? Interesting.
If only our constitution had bullet proof glass to protect us from the millions of crazies trying to insert their religious ideologies into the government.
Sun Myung Moon, Emanuel Swedenborg, Baha u llah, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, David Koresh, Hailie Selassie, John Thom, Arnold Potter, William Davies, George roux, Ernest Norman, Krishna Venta, Ahn Sahng-Hong, Jim Jones, Mashall Applewhite, Hulon Mitchell, Wayne Bent, Ariffin Mohammed, Mitsuo Matayoshi, Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda, Inri Cristo, Thomas Provenzano, David Icke, Shoko Asahara, Hogan Fukinaga, Marina Tsvigun Sergei Troop are just some of the people who have recently claimed to be Jesus Christ reincarnate.
That's a lotta Easter Zombies!
Well, I guess the proof he's a wacko is that the rosary around his neck has the incorrect number of beads. Surely his mom would have told him a thing or two about that.
http://www.aquinasandmore.com/catholic-articles/what-are-the-different-types-of-rosaries/article/131