By Jim Roope, CNN Radio National Correspondent
(CNN)–If you’re Catholic, mass this Sunday will sound different for the first time in nearly half a century.
You’ll hear it in the prayers of both the people and the priests.
“We have come back to a more accurate translation of the Latin from the Roman Missal,” said Fr. Rick Hilgartner, executive director of the Divine Office of Worship for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. “The language of prayer should be evocative, speaking in terms of imagery and metaphor.”
The changes are enormous, said Fr. Richard Albarano, of St. Francis Xavier Church in Burbank, California, and should help the 280 million English-speaking Catholics grow in their love for the mass. “The mass is the center of our lives,” said Albarano.
Not since the Second Vatican Council in 1965 have such sweeping changes been made.
The Vatican II changes were radical – the priest spoke in English instead of Latin and he faced the people instead of having his back to them. An Old Testament reading was also added to the mass, a surprise to many who thought of the Catholic Church as a New Testament only church.
Other changes, large and small, were designed by Pope John XXIII to get the people (and not just the priest) involved in the mass. But the changes were not communicated in advance. People showed up one Sunday morning, and it was all changed.
“They wondered if they were even in a Catholic church,” said Albarano.
This time, the Catholic Church has been talking about the changes, and communicating them to parishes, since 2000. For the past three months, many parishes have been working to ready their followers for the changes in the wording of the prayers.
That doesn’t mean some won’t be caught by surprise. “It’s going to be like Vatican II all over again,” Albarano said. “I haven’t heard much about catechizing across the Los Angeles Archdiocese at all. We said we were going to do it. I hope we did.”
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Why all the bashing???
As far as this new translation of the phony 1969 mass, its only been done because everyone is waking up to the fact that we have had a fake mass for the last 40 years or so. Changing a few words is just their way of dealing with the catholic counter-revolution. If they were serious they would just bring back Old Roman Rite that worked just fine for the better part of the last 2000 years. Why would the pope change a mass that had been used for for nearly 2000 years? Because Pope Paul VI was an infiltrator, an impostor, as was his predecessor John XXIII. Who was the lawful (though unrecognized) pope during this time? Why it was Cardinal Siri of Genoa who was elected on October 26th, 1958 when the white smoke billowed out of the Sistine Chapel for 5 minutes but was forced aside before he could appear on the balcony in St. Peter's square. Historic footage of his election here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtMbe6odh4
Trads believe Christ lied when he said the gates of hell shall not prevail.
There have been scandals and attempted cover ups in many many organizations for as long as there have been organizations. Watergate and Nixon are prime examples- the President of the United States and the Republican Party. Yet, the Republican Party still stands and people do not still ruminate about that awful Republican Party because there were illegal and unethical acts committed. Instead, government moved on and no one that I know of believes all Republicans and their entire political party should be tied to that scandal.
I am glad you are outraged and I am glad you want justice. I would hope we all want to eradicte any form of abuse and any attempt to cover it up. What I disagree with are these broad generalizations that because of the actions of some, an entire religion is disparaged. Perhaps that is not the tone nor implication of your posts, but it certainly comes across loud and clear in others.
There are going to be corrupt individuals as long as we have humankind and these corrupt individuals are somehow going to be affiliated with some group- political, religious, ethnic etc. What is erroneous and unfair is using such a group as an example of how the entire ideology is incorrect or somehow going to be brought down.
What I have read on these posts are such arguements, a lack of knowledge of the history of the Church, all/none thinking, shallow attempts at twisting statementsand/ or derailing discussions.
sorry-I meant this to go under DNA's post
OK, Fine they changed the words...I was at Mass on Sunday...what makes me angry at the church was that how much money was spent on these changes...how much time? There are not parishoners that would like to send thier children to Catholic school? There are not needy famlies in the parishes that need food or a bill paid? there are not parishes that are closing due to lack of funds? Was this the most important issue in the Roman Catholic Church? Were the weekly offerings spent with God in mind? Pamphlets with the changes (at least 20 in each pew for a church that holds 1000) New Missles with the new words. New Alter books for the services...how much did that cost? God was not in this work...I said the prayers as i was brought up to say them and I wont change to the new.
Your use of "there are not" starting a sentence multiple times made my eyes twitch painfully.
Yes it was meant to, kinda irritates doesn't it!!
Gee. I don't know that it was a big buget buster at any of the parishes I attend or am familiar with. What is all this money spent on this that you are talking about? A new lectionary maybe. Not a huge expense.
The Church is not here to feed the poor and raise money. The Church was given to us, by Jesus, to help us get to Heaven. These are NOT new changes, this wording existed in the Mass long before Vatican II. These changes begin to return the Church to the Traditional Tridentine Mass of 50 years ago. A Mass that was said for hundreds of years.
yea! they made changes! so what, it's still archaic nonsense.
All the changes will not change the following:
Recognizing the flaws, follies and frauds in the foundations of Islam, Judaism and Christianity, the "bowers", kneelers" and "pew peasants" are converging these religions into some simple rules of life. No koran, bible, clerics, nuns, monks, imams, evangelicals, ayatollahs, rabbis, professors of religion or priests needed or desired.
Ditto for houses of "worthless worship" aka mosques, churches, basilicas, cathedrals, temples and synagogues.
BTW- I want to thank and recognize all of those who have provided thoughtful responses to the preponderance of negative, hateful and erroneous comments that have been made. Thank you for standing up for what we believe in.Thank you for not being afraid to take them on and out them for what they truly are (or are not as the case may be). Over the past few days I have seen time and time again some sort of malicious rhetoric and then someone will step in and defend not just the Faith, but fairness and civility. You are to be commended (gerald, NAI, Catholicengineer et. al.)
Thank you as well. May God soften their hearts.
You're all criticizing something you DON'T understand. The fact is, yes, SOME Catholic Priests are Pedophiles. But some teachers are pedophiles, some construction workers are pedophiles, some business people, some truck drivers, some CEOs. In any profession, there will be pedophiles, just as there will be murderers, rapists, and thiefs. It happens. I don't like it, and I certainly don't condone it, but it happens.
The fact of the matter is, there seems to be this misconception that people become Priests to molest children. This is completely untrue. People become Priests because they feel that God is calling them to do so.
People are NOT the stereotypes they are made out to be. Not all Muslims are terrorists, most are, not all Priests are pedophiles. Most aren't. Not all black people are stupid, and not all Jews are stingy and have big angular noses.
But can't we ignore our opinions on the Catholic Church and discuss the changes to the Mass? You know, that thing this article was written about.
Well said. Actually the percentages of priests who molest is lower than the general population of men.
Criticizing something that they don't understand is a national pastime on this board.
Well said NAI and gerald.
Gerald and Ghera.. you seen to misunderstand that it is the fact that there was no outrage with in the CC regarding cover ups that causes folks to dislike the church. Your efforts on here have been as with the public relations exercise more to protect the brand and the leader rather than the look for justice. What do not people not understand that you do? Religions have always felt they have a special immunity from criticism ..any of them and its not the way anymore.
Evolved – It never ceases to amaze me how these conversations go. For days and days snips are made at priests. ALL PRIESTS and the Catholic Church as if it is worse than society as a whole. A haven for peds. Then when someone questions that misconception and presents facts, they are somehow condoning pedophiles or denying that priests committ these hienous crimes. Lastly if this does not work, the issue becomes "the coverup", ignorning that for days the snips have been about priests And some how when we post corrections to misconceptions we are not doing something about pedophiles. The implication is that you are doing something about the problem. WHAT may I ask? Have you given money? Joined an organization? What? Also the claim is that the CC has done nothing about the problem. This shows only ignorance as many changes have been made and there is evidence that the problem is being corrected and strides have been made. But of course it will take years until that is proven out.
"the Church" is not the people who abused and covered up. These are distractors from what the Church is really about. It is like hating the united states because someone blew up a building in Oklahoma City or because of scandals in our government of which there have been many. The Church is about Jesus Christ and he is the founder. No matter how many wolves in sheeps clothering there may be there is no need to turn our back on "the Church".
But the number of priests who are pedophiles should be zero. And if it is found that some are they should be fired and turned in to the authorities.
Gerald..thanks for the reply. As a matter of fact I do not support any Catholic Charities as I am disgusted with the way the whole problem has been handled. I completely understand that the ped problem exists in the general population, and also in other areas..schools etc. The difference is that in those cases there are persecutions and people held to account. If any corporation had hidden the truth the way the CC had done the company would no longer be in business. The fact to, that you claim this is Jesus Church, is even worse as if things like this could happen within it, and Jesus allowed it to go on, what does it say about his management style? This problem is of the churches making, and the way it handle the problem was terrible, and the brand has been tainted worse that it had been. We have not even touched on the residential school abuse, Rwanda and condoms.
There are 38 million cases of abuse. 7% of the population is estimated to have committed these crimes. That is around 21 million people. And you say everyone outside the CC is going to jail? Sorry your way off. There aren't even a million in jail. Lots of people are getting away with this. You just don't have the facts you think you do.
So, gerry, does that make it oky dokey? Sorry, but you're backing the wrong horse. A priest of the church should be above all others, not equal to them. It is abominable that those entrusted to do good, to do the work of God, to lead others, to care for the helpless, are guilty of such horrible crimes. And yes, it IS worse than when those in other walks of life commit such crimes.
The fact that you don't see this is proof that you're blind to the faults of your church's leaders and intent on excusing them.
According to the American Academy of Pediatrics 2005 and msn, children living in nonbiological homes (aka cohabitating with the live in boyfriend) are 50 times more likely to die of inflicted injuries.
I find it abominal that the mother who is entrusted to care for the child, love the child above all else would be so selfish and self absorbed that that she would prioritize some low life live in over her child. I find it abominal that a little child would look into the eyes of his/her mother in whom there should be total trust and love, and this person would betray her own child.
I am outraged too. Where is your outrage over this? Why do you choose to ignore the ever increasing numbers of abuse and neglect cases that are huge and perpetrated by the persons that above all else a child should trust and instead focus only upon the Catholic Church? Could it be that you simply hate Catholicism and/or religion in general and use the topic as an excuse to direct your bigotry? Are you really so outraged at pedophilia or are you just anti-Catholic/religion?
Ghera. What makes you think we are not outraged by what we see in society at large...but we do see prosecutions and justice. What do you think would happen if hospitals were discovered to be not reporting the abuse they see to the authorities ? To claim that the CC is the victim in this is wrong, or those who do not accept the CC line are bigots...how many women priests do you have? and gay folks? Religions, all of them, are in it for themselves and self preservation is first and foremost. Have you read about the residential schools? I most certainly hope you are right and that the CC has made the required changes, but it should have been forced to do so years ago.
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