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My Take: Is Tim Tebow performing miracles?
Tim Tebow’s penchant for kneeling in prayer has birthed a new word: Tebowing.
November 29th, 2011
12:01 PM ET

My Take: Is Tim Tebow performing miracles?

Editor's Note: Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "God is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions that Run the World," is a regular CNN Belief Blog contributor.

By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN

(CNN)–In 1966, John Lennon famously claimed that The Beatles were "more popular than Jesus." Today that title may belong to Tim Tebow, the Denver Broncos quarterback more famous for praising Jesus than for throwing touchdowns.

As anyone who has visited Dallas or Atlanta on any recent weekend can attest, America’s two great religions are Christianity and football. In recent weeks, these two great faiths have come together in Tim Tebow, the new starting quarterback for the Denver Broncos and America’s latest merger of faith in Jesus and faith in the Almighty Touchdown.

When viewed from the perspective of “the world,” Tebow is, at best, a mediocre NFL quarterback. When viewed through the eyes of faith, however, he is something like the Second Coming of Joe Montana. And maybe Something More.

On this burning question of Tim Tebow, I must confess to being an agnostic. But I understand the fervor on both sides.

Skeptics generally concede that Tebow, an outspoken Christian, was an extraordinary high school and college football player. After all, he won the Heisman Trophy as a sophomore, and led his University of Florida team to two NCAA football titles.

But those who refuse to bow down before Tebow insist that NFL football is another game altogether, and when it comes to that game Tebow is a passing fancy. They attribute Denver’s near miraculous 5-1 run during his reign as a starter not to his offense but to the Broncos defense.

They point out that he throws about as well as Peppermint Patty, and that in one of his wins he completed only two passes more than Charlie Brown (which is to say two). His completion percentage (45.5%) is last in the league.

Skeptics are also turned off by Tebow’s public displays of religion. Tebow used to cite Bible verses on his eye black. And his tendency to be found praying while his teammates are strutting has added a new word—“Tebowing”—to the lexicon.

True believers say to hell with all that. What matters are the intangibles. Tebow is a winner. He may allow his team to fall behind, but in the end he leads the Broncos to victory, often in a fashion that can only be termed miraculous.

Which is to say, when it comes to the Almighty TT, you gotta have faith (or not).

In his book “Faith and Belief,” the Religious Studies scholar Wilfred Cantwell Smith describes how the notion of “faith” changed over the centuries from something like “trust” to its modern-day meaning of “belief in the unbelievable.”

And that, it seems to me, is what we are witnessing with Tebow.

It is simply not believable that a quarterback who cannot throw would turn a team from a 1-4 also-ran to a 6-5 playoff contender. But Tebow has done that, in part by running and in part, well, by faith.

There is, to be sure, Tebow's faith in Jesus. But perhaps more importantly, there is the faith of his teammates in him. Not to mention the adoration of legions of University of Florida alums, and of fans in Denver and beyond.

As a scholar of religion, I have little expertise in football, NFL or otherwise. But I cannot help weighing in on a few comparisons between TT and JC:

Jesus: turned a ragtag band of 12 apostles into the number one religion in the world

Tebow: turned a ragtag squad of 11 football players into an NFL juggernaut

Jesus: prayed a lot (to God)

Tebow: prays a lot (to Jesus)

Jesus: ran the money changers out of the temple

Tebow: runs the  spread option

Jesus: miraculously saved a wedding at Cana by turning water into wine

Tebow: miraculously led the Broncos to last-second victories against the Dolphins, the Jets and the Chargers.

Coincidence? You be the judge. As for me, I'm sitting back and waiting for Tebow to do something truly miraculous. Like winning a game without completing a single pass, or running back a punt for a touchdown, or kicking a 50-yard field goal to win a game.

Meanwhile, I am happy to report that Jesus is still more famous than Tebow. At least for now.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.

- CNN Belief Blog contributor

Filed under: Christianity • Opinion • Sports

soundoff (1,398 Responses)
  1. Wow

    Look at him, poor guy can't even remember how to tie his shoe.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
    • lolling around

      lol

      November 30, 2011 at 5:20 am |
  2. mouse

    You're a dipstick, dipstick, libs DO NOT HATE GOD, for the umpteenth time.....geez, how someone can paint with such a broad picture only smacks of bigotry.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
    • Jesus

      How can you hate soimething that does not exist? You can dislike a myth, but hating it makes no sense. Revulsion or disgust may come inmto play as an emotion when myth belivers try to inject 2000 year old Bronze Age dogma into our legislative debate.

      November 30, 2011 at 8:18 am |
  3. Jim

    No.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
  4. mouse

    So, someone practices almost their entire life to be placed in a position that he is in only to now have people say it's divine intervention........IF this young man had never played football growing up or in College and was performing as he is then maybe you can say it's divine but when someone spends their life practicing this is not so odd. I suppose Brady kneels and prays before every game too since he's a much better quarterback than Tebow, either that or Tebow's god loves Brady more.....

    November 29, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
    • Alfonzo Muchanzo

      Your understanding of Christianity is elementary at best.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
    • Alan

      Herbie/Alfonzo your understanding of anything resembling reality is sub-elementary.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
    • Alfonzo Muchanzo

      @Alan – not sure why you keep calling me herbie, but anyways, yes you are sooo correct, quite possibly the smartest man alive. The way that you know everything about me and predict my innermost thoughts is absolutely astonishing. Please do tell me, how did you get so smart? I surely hope you're running for POTUS because you would win by a landslide with that grandiose knowledge of yours. Please do solve all our world probelms.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
    • Jesus

      God has a season ticket to the Bronco's games. I saw Him sipping a Martini with some great looking babes and rooting for Tebow. Oh wait, that wasn't God...it was Joel Osteen.

      November 30, 2011 at 8:21 am |
  5. magnum

    Yes, He is a winner, period. And it is sweet to see a good guy be successful... Go Tebow!!!

    November 29, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
    • So Jersey Girl

      I agree with you. I'm tired of the football prima donnas (Suh, Detroit; Johnson, Philadelphia) who are so stuck on themselves that the rest of the team doesn't matter - it's all about them and their whining and carping. I say go Tebow, too!

      November 29, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
    • Jesus

      Tebow is a RB in the QB position who can throw the ball. It's a unique offensive tool in the NFL. Opposing teams will either adjust to him and shut him down OR Tebow will grow in his ability to read defenses and throw the ball. The rap against Tebow was that he was dumber than a rock, has a poor throwing motion, and can't read defenses. He has improved and shown NFL skills. That said, he still is a work in progress. The God myth thing is irrelevant to his success or failure.

      November 30, 2011 at 8:28 am |
    • Jesus #2

      Don't listen to Jesus! He's a zombie! He's only pretending to have an opinion so he can get your brains for breakfast!

      November 30, 2011 at 8:35 am |
  6. itwouldbemorebelievable

    Why is it that Christian athletes only point to the heavens after they make a good play? If it's God's will that Tim Tebow scored a touchdown, then it's also God's will that Tim Tebow fumbled the snap or threw an incomplete pass on third down.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
    • Alfonzo Muchanzo

      They are pointing to the heavens to thank God for everything in their life, and point out that He is what their life is about. They are not saying that God decided to let them score, fumble, or throw an incomplete pass, but giving praise to their Almighty. You might notice that players pray after the game regardless of win/loss.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
    • Alan

      you tell 'm, Herbie Jaurezie

      November 29, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
    • Jesus

      I've flown Delta and saw cloud after cloud. No God lives up there. No pearly gates, No angels. No harps. No zombies. It's just devoid of afterlife. So why do these bozos look up and point to the sky?

      November 30, 2011 at 8:32 am |
  7. mikes1979

    Tim Tebow has had the luxury of playing lousy teams except his one defeat vs the Lions. The rest of the teams he has faced are either horrible, or not so great and played horrible against the Broncos good defense.

    He's not working 'miracles' he's simply doing enough to win. He will fall to any team with real offensive ability every time.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:44 pm |
    • Howie Phelterbush

      He's beaten the Chargers who had beaten the Broncos in game 5 and he's beaten Oakland who beat the broncos in game 1. After starting game 6 he's 2-0 in the division. Oakland btw is the division leader.....for now.

      He's also put up 15 TDs in 8 starts and a combined 1791 yards winning 5 of 8 games with just 2 turn overs. John Elway won 3 of his 1st 8 games had 4 tds and 10 turn overs with just under 1100 yards. FACT.

      November 29, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  8. Chingus

    There is no other explanation other than divine providence working in Tim and spreading around, especially to the defense which has allowed him to work his miracles. The Broncos defense is truly sublime and divine.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
  9. JB

    The defense is more responsible for those wins than Tebow. Maybe "god" is shining on the city of Denver, fundie haven. Being a Colts fan, I'm wondering what we've done to so displease the mighty and powerful Oz that he would send a plague to our QB.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @JB

      Whoa whoa whoa, Talk shi.t about Tebow all you want, but careful what you say about The Mile High City. That place is where dreams go to come true and most certainly not a "Fundie Haven".... that's C-springs. Dtown is pretty much the reason why Colorado turned blue, get your facts straight bucko.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
  10. Colin

    There is a very simple test of the supposed influence of the Christian god on his playing ability.

    Keep training and stop praying and see if anything changes. Then stop training and start praying and see how long he lasts in the NFL. We all know the answer, and that's just the point. Praying is harmless foolery when it is coupled with doing whatever common sense tells you you should do, but nobody would be so foolish as to actually trust in prayer.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
    • Chingus

      I love it. Another religious know it all who probably dropped out of Sunday School.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
    • steelerguin

      Why do so many unbelievers frequent the "belief blog" on CNN? Maybe, Chingy, you should start an "unbelief blog" where people might care what you think.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • AML

      The Bible tells us to pray and He will answer. Not always the answer we want.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      @steelerguin: We come here to laugh at fools like you and to hopefully get through to one closed minded individual that it is okay to grow up and stop believing in fairy tales. So where is your validated evidence for your god delusion? We've been waiting 2000 years for one of you to present it but yet you continuously fail miserably at attempting it.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • ofpeculiartreasures

      Colin, I believe in prayer. It is one of the ways we can actually talk with God, and rest assured (or be afraid) that there is indeed a God. Although you may not believe me now, you, and every single person who ever lived on this Earth at any time, will bow down to Jesus and tell Him that He is Lord over all. Your choice now is to be saved and live for Him, or continue a life devoid of Him and suffer after this dead forever. The choice is yours, my friend. And I pray that you will serve Him, and find the joy that I have found.

      November 29, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
  11. Defense, not miracles

    This is ridiculous. The guy can't throw the ball and the team can't move it down the field other than in the last 5 minutes. Denver's defense (especially Von Miller) is performing the miracles. Tebow is running time off of the clock and Willis McGahee is running wild. Please give credit where credit is due. Tebow is not due much, if any, of this credit.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
  12. E Hill

    I'm sure that if Jesus was 6'3" 245lb, he would have reached more people as well.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:37 pm |
    • Kathleen

      I'm pretty sure Jesus would have completed more passes!

      November 29, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • Jesus

      Actually the real Jesus, if there ever was one, would have been about 5' 3" tall and thin (perhaps 110 lbs). He would have had a semitic hooked nose, swarthy complexion, and may have been missing some of his teeth. That was average for a male in that era in the middle east. Today, he would be the waterboy on a H.S. team.

      November 30, 2011 at 8:38 am |
  13. jj

    The gods were ETs who came to earth and were seen by ancient mankind. Many ancient societies wrote down this history, which was later interpeted as myth and legend, although it is history. Read Sitchin.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:36 pm |
  14. dipstick

    Is this really so important for it to be in the news...oh wait! of course it is...libs hate GOD.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
    • Kathleen

      Don't be silly. Liberals don't hate God. But we do like to see a decent passing game in a NFL team.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
    • Jesus

      Nah, you can't hate something that does not exist. What I do dislike is YOU – a 21st century person who tries to inject Bronze Age dogma into our legislative process.

      November 30, 2011 at 8:40 am |
  15. caw

    Denver is a juggernaut? Really?

    November 29, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
    • Jesus

      Lots of Juggies on that cherrleading squad. Maybe that's what they mean.

      November 30, 2011 at 8:41 am |
  16. Colin

    He honestly believes that a being powerful enough to create the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies about 13,70,000,000 years ago, has a personal interest in his football games.

    It's not really his fault that he is haunted by this and the other superst.itions of Christianity. He was no doubt brought up in a household where his parents were infested with the same nonsense. Still, despite myself, I find myself hoping for his failure in the NFL so that the simpleton Christians are proven wrong (yet again) about their hokey sky-fairy.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:34 pm |
    • Alfonzo Muchanzo

      Lol, I feel sorry for you with your deductive reasoning skills, a 5 year old can grasp more concepts. Please don't drop out of school.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      @Alfonzo: You Ass!! Colin's better educated than you...he stopped believing in fairy tales years ago and developed a normal brain. You should respect him...he's busy keeping your ass free!!

      November 29, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • Matt

      Weak. Go read a book and try again later.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • Colin

      To guage Alfonzo's "deductive abilities", here is a post he made (under his other name Herbert Juarez). It is about Noah's flood, with he believes is actual planetary history!! The punctuation errors are his.

      "One suggestion is that angelic beings kept not their first estate.Angels ,the sons of God looked on the daughters of men and cohabited with them creating a race of mutants or giants that would have destroyed the human race as we know it.These creatures were evil incarnate, and left to continue, none of us would exist.Another possibility is that God seeing and knowing all things was grieved at the direction mankind had chosen to go,and that as things stood there would be no future at all unless corrective measures were taken.I favor the Enoch explanation,even though the young were destroyed as well, they were already mutant.If it wasn't for the flood you and I would probably have never existed."

      I suspect an element of shame in the sheer ranting lunacy of this and other posts is why he changed his name. After he loses all credibility under "Alfonzo" he will no doubt move on to a new name.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • Matt

      Given the illogical nature of your post I find that last comment ironic. After all, if he believes in a being that is all knowing and all powerful, logically that being would have, at minimum, the ability to be interested in all things...even football. Of course, comprehension of the "interests" of all knowing beings is far from a realistic pursuit.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:24 pm |
    • Colin

      Yes Matt, the christian sky-fairy is super-duper smart, knows everything, never dies, was never born, is everything and anything, the alpha and the omega, the bla, bla, bla...... In other words, obviously made up.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • Matt

      If you are going to absolve yourself of using any form of intelligence and logic then your arguments will continue to be weak with little to no value. Seriously, try harder if this means that much to you.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
  17. Chuckles

    I guess they're really stretching the word "miracle" a lot these days. It's a miracle that I got out of bed this morning because I was super duper tired, does that mean I'm eligible for sainthood?

    November 29, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
    • just sayin

      one can never say never, one day on the road to damascus Saul was......

      November 29, 2011 at 12:25 pm |
    • J.W

      I think you have to be Catholic to be a saint, unless you play for the New Orleans Saints.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      There's nothing miraculous about football...well I take that back. There is one thing. How many people watch it. I just don't understand what is so fascinating about this sport. To me, it's an exercise in starting and stopping a clock. Four quarters of 15 minutes + 30 minute half time show = 1 1/2 hours. How is it then that this game lasts 3 hours then? I don't get it.

      Maybe it's just because I'm a hockey fan. Fast-paced and there's actual fighting where they take OFF their helmets and pads! Go Sharks.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Damian

      Agreed! Though I would go as far as all sports, though hockey is the best just because it takes a lot of skill to skate that quickly and accuratly, handling a small puck with an odd stick and score a goal, all the while hoping not to get smashed into the boards and if you get into a scrap the refs are gonna watch so you gotta have some fighting skills too. Generally though I can enjoy the occasional game, but the amount of fanaticism surrounding sports in general makes no sense to me. I mean, regardless of winning or losing these people get to come back each year and make more millions. Now, if the worst players got cut after a season, it may make it more interesting....

      November 29, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • J.W

      Well I am a big sports fan, but I agree that they make too much money. I guess though you have to take into account that they are in demand. People pay alot of money to watch the good players play. It does bother me that they benchwarmers are still making millions though.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @JW

      That's what I'm talking about, I think the players should have commission based salaries and the benchwarmers or just the players with the worst averages at the end of the season get cut and go back to the minors. That would make things A LOT mroe interesting and give these guys a little fire to play really well. It's why I love tv shows and partcularly stuff like Lost, No one was safe and just because they're a main character didn't mean they were going to make it to season 2! Maybe we should take a page from the Romans book and turn our football games a little....meaner, make them play to the death.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      @Chuckles,

      I like your idea about people being cut each season. It could be like Survivor: NFL. "The team has spoken." That might make it slightly more interesting.

      The fanaticism surrounding sports boggles my mind too. I'm like, "It's a game." At the end of the season, someone wins the Superbowl, gets a big, gawdy ring and then...everyone forgets about it until next August. I actually love Superbowl Sunday. It's the day when I can get anywhere and do what I want because everybody is watching "The Big Game." By many accounts, it's actually one of the best days to go to Disneyland...I need to test this theory out. The other great thing about Superbowl Sunday? At the end of it, I don't have to hear about football for another six months!

      November 29, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Damian

      OOO, what a great idea! Instead of just stats, maybe the entire team would have to vote out 3 teammates or something, make a big deal out of it, like "Big Cut Monday"
      Also, your superbowl sunday sounds a lot like what my christmas every year. I mean, every Dec. 25th the world is my oyster, the ski mountains are barren and the snow is divine, movie theaters (at least in the mountains) are also pretty deserted so its like I get an entire theater to myself and friends and family. The only place thats packed is of course....chinese food places, but hey it's worth it to keep the tradition alive. Super bowl sunday definitly has its moments, but there are a lot more people absent on christmas than super bowl sunday.

      And that, my friend, is why Christmas is probably the best holiday out of the year.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      @Chuckles,

      See, at least here, NOTHING is open on Christmas. A lot of our movie theaters are even closed. That's why if you're buying toys that require batteries for your kids, you gotta buy them before Christmas, because if you forget...well, it's no fun for your child.

      When I was in Canada for Christmas with my wife one year, they still celebrate Boxing Day. It's the day after Christmas and it's like our Black Friday. The deals are AWESOME.

      I have two criteria for something to be a holiday, and any day has to have at least one of the two criteria. 1) I have a day off work. 2) The day intrinsically requires me to drink large quant.ities of alcohol.

      So, like, St. Patrick's Day includes drinking large quant.ities of alcohol. Therefore, it's a holiday. Halloween neither gives me a day off work nor does it intrinsically encourage me to drink, therefore, it is not really a holiday.

      That's why New Years Day is the best. 1) I get a day off work. 2) You are actually supposed to drink the night BEFORE New Years so you have all New Years Day to recover. And 3) Well, it's my anniversary and that's just icing on the cake.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
    • TheTruthFairy

      @DK
      Hockey: 3 periods @ 20 minutes each + 2 intermissions @ 17 minutes each = 1 hour 34 minutes
      how is it that a game last 3 hours, I just don't get it?

      I used to think the same way about football until my son started playing, but now i find it much more entertaining than hockey.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Damian

      MINUS 1 FOR THE BAY AREA! What do your jews do on christmas if nothing is open?! That's crazy talk! Not to mention, anyone who is not christian, what do they do? Even here in DC the smithsonians are open (I went to see the declaration of independence last year..... no line, no crowds, just quiet. It was glorious).

      I agree though that holidays have to have those 2 things in order to be counted as such. Halloween I think does encourage people to consume lots of alochol, but it's always a bummer, its never as good as you hope it will be, in my opion this also includes New Years, but that may be because New Years is so close to christmas so I'm usually still recovering from christmas by the time new years rolls around.

      The best holiday however is Thanskgiving. There's no gift giving, there's no god or prayer (no matter how many random people as.sert there is), it's just a day where you get a day (usually 2 days) off work to eat and drink a shi.tload and say how awesome everything is (or on some occasions that life could be shi.ttier).

      November 29, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      @Chuckles,

      We don't like Jews here. Very anti-Semetic. 😛 Nah, I'm sure there's some stuff open, but I have no idea what they do.

      See, Thanksgiving to me is not that exciting. I see a few family members whose lives make waiting for grass to grow seem like a thrill a minute. Is it bad I'm not thankful for Thanksgiving? Although, my Thanksgiving generally does include God (could you have guessed that?) It's a great four day weekend though, one of the few we actually get.

      I think the biggest scam though are companies that give you New Years and the next holiday you get is Memorial Day. Really? Almost SIX MONTHS without a three day weekend? That's pure torture. And then they cram all of the other holidays into the remaining six months.

      Why is it I always think you're in Colorado, when you have specifically said you were in DC a number of times?

      November 29, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Damian

      If you want to liven up Tgiving, just get rip-roaring drunk and start stuff. That's what I do every tgiving (except sadly, this one) where I get to antogonize my family and air out any grievances I have. It's great.

      Also, pray tell, how do you incorporate god into tgiving, I've never really understood it other than maybe saying I'm grateful....to god...for etc... instead of just being grateful for something. Do you do anything else?

      I usually save up my time off specifically because of the barren wasteland of holidays in between new years and memorial day, it's depressing.

      Lastly, although I am based in DC, my heart will always be in CO. I talk about it often and of course referenced the ski mountains being completely empty on christmas, last year was the first time I have ever spent christmas outside of CO and let me tell you, no skiing on christmas was a knife to the gut, I'll never allow it again.

      November 29, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      @Chuckles,

      Hahahahaha, I don't think I'm allowed to get rip-roaring drunk at Thanksgiving. My parents would end me right there, even though I am in my 30s. I still have a healthy respect/fear of my father.

      There's a lot of prayers and some Bible reading. Also, generally there's a Wednesday service and the service on Sunday is usually about being thankful and grateful. At my in-law's house, on Christmas, before opening gifts, we read...I think it's Luke 2? Can't remember off the top of my head. Our big "religious holidays" are Easter, Thanksgiving and Christmas.

      Luckily, at the company I'm at now, we get MLK Day in Mid-January and President's Day Mid-February, so that lessens the blow of the lack of holidays for the first six months.

      That explains why I always think you're in CO. The left coast is better...at least in my opinion. I've only been to DC once and that was when I was like 12? My parents thought "summer vacation" meant "go see all of the historical crap you'll be hearing about in school next year." While I think it'd be awesome to see it all again NOW, to a 12 year old, it was like a total killjoy to summer break.

      November 29, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Damian

      Hmm, at least in this guys family, drinking is encouraged. In fact, after I got to college and got a year+ of heavy drinking under my belt, my parents felt it was time to challenge my sister and I to a drinking contest because we were "finally ready". Extended family events just means we get to watch grandma also get drunk off a glass of wine.

      I'm a little surprised you do so much religion on thanksgiving, I mean, at least how I've always learned it, this isn't exactly a christianity sanctioned holiday, but american christian (sort of). I mean, easter, christmas, those make sense. It involves jesus, god, it's in the bible, all that jazz, but thanksgiving?

      My company doesn't allow time off for those holidays, so I have to wait till memorial day, which is a shame.

      I agree, the left coast is way better, I'm blowing this joint in the near future because the people are better out west. It's like a theory I heard called the "covered wagon" theory. Back in the good old homestead act days, and even before then I guess, people went west with small groups and set up cities out west, because of all the travel and hardship they became closer and nicer to each other, so the cities founded out west were founded by cohesive units of people who all had to get along just to sruvive. This is vs. the east coast that was founded by a bunch of pilgrims who had gripes with england or their country of origin and so were unitied against the common enemy until that common enemy sort of vanished. I would highly reccomend taking another visit to DC, it does have a lot to offer (you can't get better than free smithsonian exhibits) and the monuments are actually very nice, esepcially at night after a couple of drinks.

      November 29, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      @Chuckles

      See, my father grew up in a household where people used to get drunk and start arguing, so he has VERY little tolerance for drunks. So the behavior is not tolerated at all. Plus my aunt and uncle make me look like satan worshipper with how devout they are. So they're not gonna get involved. That's not to say there isn't liquor, it's just expected you will HEAVILY moderate yourself.

      As far as history goes, I think you're right. It's not a Christian holiday. But I suppose we interpret the "Thanks" given in Thanksgiving, is thanks unto God for all that He has blessed us with. Just our personal interpretation.

      That's so weak regarding your company's holidays. It's almost painful.

      California has become pretty self-absorbed, to be honest. There are so many people here (something like 36 million in this state, which for the record, is greater than the entire country of Canada which is like 33 million) that people are fairly rude, but nothing in comparison to New York. Nevada's pretty awesome, especially if you live near Vegas. And housing there is pretty inexpensive, as long as you don't mind the heat in the summer.

      My wife and I have planned to do DC in the future. First we're going to do DC, see Gettysburg, Colonial Williamsburg, etc. Maybe take a week there and see it all. Then we intend to go to Ottawa, which is the capital city of Canada, and tour all the sites there. Should be really interesting!

      November 29, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Damian

      I see the problem.... maybe it's because jews are encouraged to drink so part of piousness is getting drunk (which is the reason my grandma still drinks her wine). Or maybe since our fighting is done in good fun it never gets really seriously disorderly.

      I guess my only beef with christianing up Tgiving is that it's starting to be seen as a rallying point for some as one mroe reason why christians are being "persecuted" within the US because god has been taken out of tgiving (me not realize god was ever IN thanksgiving)....

      That saddens me that Cali became self-absorbed, but I bet they're still waaaaay better than the east coast (maybe exlude LA). I mean, Covered Wagon theory! It's gotta be right!. Though I'll probably stick to CO or the coast before moving into Nevada, too...deserty. Maybe i'm going against my heritage here but I am no fan of the desert, could be that my ancestors appartently moped around the desert for 40 years or that we went back now and made it green again, but I'll stick with mountains over desert.

      Your trip sounds a little dense, lots of stuff to see. I haven't been to colonial williamsburg or gettysberg, but I've heard good things, if you're into that sort of stuff. DC has so much to do though it'l be hard to cram all that into just a week.

      November 29, 2011 at 2:54 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      @Chuckles

      The ever-encroaching Christians, huh? 🙂 I guess for us, when one is thankful, one has to be thankful TO someone right? So who is it that those non-believers are thankful to? Regardless though, Thanksgiving is just a time for food and seeing family and remembering the blessings we have been given.

      The Jew who is afraid of the desert? LOL! I'm sorry, that just cracks me up, because like you said, the history. There are mountains in CA too...you could move to Lake Tahoe, which is like twenty or thirty minutes from Reno. It's way up in the mountains. Truckee I hear is nice too.

      Yeah it would be pretty dense, but I don't think we'd see the entire Smithsonian. Maybe just hit key points. I like though that you can see the Captiol, the Washington Monument, part of the Smithsonian and the Lincoln Monument pretty easily by foot.

      November 29, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
  18. Faithful

    Tebow-We Love you!
    We LOVE the FAITH you profess!!!

    Rock on!!!

    November 29, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
    • Apple

      That is a lovely picture of Tebow praying!!!

      November 29, 2011 at 12:23 pm |
    • Bob

      He's just bending over for his assistant coach again.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
    • ANGELEYES

      AMEN SISTER

      November 29, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
    • John the Hippo

      You love Tebow because he facilitates your dishonesty in what you know to be fantasy. Keep the lie alive.

      November 29, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
  19. Bob

    In response to the headline: No.

    November 29, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
  20. hippypoet

    ready, and puke!

    November 29, 2011 at 12:04 pm |
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