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Obama delivers very Christian message at Christmas tree lighting
President Obama and his family at the Thursday night tree lighting.
December 1st, 2011
10:12 PM ET

Obama delivers very Christian message at Christmas tree lighting

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - President Barack Obama delivered an unusually stark Christian message at the White House Christmas tree lighting Thursday night, saying Christ's message "lies at the heart of my Christian faith and that of millions of Americans."

"More than 2,000 years ago, a child was born to two faithful travelers who could find rest only in a stable, among the cattle and the sheep," Obama said at the tree lighting ceremony, a longstanding White House tradition.


"But this was not just any child," Obama continued. "Christ’s birth made the angels rejoice and attracted shepherds and kings from afar. He was a manifestation of God’s love for us."

Obama has been more public and specific about his religious beliefs since polls last year showed that only a minority of Americans know he is Christian. Last Easter, Obama got unusually specific about his beliefs on Christ's resurrection at a White House prayer breakfast.

Some conservative Christian leaders have questioned Obama's Christian faith, even though Obama got his start in politics through church-based political organizing and has written about accepting Jesus in his 20s.

Last month, South Carolina Christian conservative leader Bob Jones III told a reporter “I’ve no reason to think (Obama is) Christian."

“Some people will say whatever they think the politically helpful thing would be,” Jones said. “I say, ‘Where is the evidence that he is a Christian?’ ”

In his remarks at Thursday's tree lighting, Obama said that Jesus "grew up to become a leader with a servant’s heart who taught us a message as simple as it is powerful: that we should love God, and love our neighbor as ourselves."

"So long as the gifts and the parties are happening, it’s important for us to keep in mind the central message of this season," he said, "and keep Christ’s words not only in our thoughts, but also in our deeds."

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Barack Obama • Christianity • Christmas

soundoff (2,184 Responses)
  1. Scott

    I would turn this argument around and ask Bob Jones III, where is the evidence that YOU or your followers are Christians?

    December 2, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
    • jo an

      If Bob Jones is a Christian...count me out....he is 'the worst of the worst'....Newt will go hang with him...watch..

      December 2, 2011 at 3:16 pm |
  2. Drowlord

    Kinda disappoints me to see people debating this. On the one hand, he clearly has an attendance record and allegiance to Christian church. On the other hand, the Reverand Jeremiah Wright controversy brought up Obama's "I never paid attention in 20 years of church" defense.

    Church is clearly another weekly meeting where he wants to be counted as present. Which pretty much makes him a normal Christian in this country, deserving of all the respect you're willing to give normal Christians.

    December 2, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      As stated earlier (by Gumby I believe) much of the hate thrown at Obama is thinly veiled racism disguised as more politically correct forms of discrimination.

      Safer by far to call him a "socialist marxist muslim communist liberal gaylover" than a n!gger.

      Just my two cents.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:06 pm |
    • Southerner01

      He has an attendance record at Jeremiah Wright's Church. From the video taped sermons I have seen of Wright, there is good reason to question whether that is Christianity at all. Prior to becoming President, what christian church had he ever attended that had a minister other than Jeremiah Wright or Father Phleger, neither of whom seem remotely Christian to me?

      December 2, 2011 at 3:24 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Southerner01 – fact is I don't give a damn what religion he is. He's the President of our country, he's doing the best he can given the utter lack of bipartisan support he's receiving, and frankly the Republicans have fielded a bunch of morally corrupt, bigoted, ignorant clowns in the hopes America is dumb enough to repeat the tragedy that was Bush.

      He's not the best president we've ever had and he's not the president he campaigned to be, but in my eyes he is by far the lesser of two evils.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
  3. JC

    Anyone who believes that every word of a 2000 year old book is true and the literal word of God is simply a fool. That is not to say that the universe isn't a mysterious, even magical place and that there might be a higher power behind it. But intelligent people of all faiths understand that if the old stories have meaning at all it is metaphorical not literal. For example the resurrection of Jesus, like that of Osiris, is an analogy to the rebirth of crops in the spring.

    December 2, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
  4. David

    Why would you use the word "stark" to describe a Christmas message?

    December 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
  5. Lies

    Most of Christian Mythology is stolen from earlier religions
    Many early Christians celebrated Jesus' birthday on JAN-6. Armenian Christians still do. In Alexandria, in what is now Egypt, the birthday of their god-man, Aion, was also celebrated on JAN-6.
    Christians and most Pagans eventually celebrated the birthday of their god-man on DEC-25.
    According to an ancient Christian tradition, Christ died on MAR-23 and resurrected on MAR-25. These dates agree precisely with the death and resurrection of Attis.
    Baptism was a principal ritual; it washed away a person's sins. In some rituals, Baptism was performed by sprinkling holy water on the believer; in others, the person was totally immersed.
    The most important sacrament was a ritual meal of bread and wine which symbolize the god-man's body and blood. His followers were accused of engaging in cannibalism.
    Early Christians initiated converts in March and April by baptism. Mithraism initiated their new members at this time as well.
    Early Christians were naked when they were baptized. After immersion, they then put on white clothing and a crown. They carried a candle and walked in a procession to a basilica. Followers of Mithra were also baptized naked, put on white clothing and a crown, and walked in a procession to the temple. However, they carried torches.
    At Pentecost, the followers of Jesus were recorded as speaking in tongues. At Trophonius and Delos, the Pagan priestesses also spoke in tongues: They appeared to speak in such a way that each person present heard her words in the observer's own language.
    An inscription to Mithras reads: "He who will not eat of my body and drink of my blood, so that he will be made on with me and I with him, the same shall not know salvation." 1 In John 6:53-54, Jesus is said to have repeated this theme: "...Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day." (KJV)
    The Bible records that Jesus was crucified between two thieves. One went to heaven and the other to hell. In the Mithras mysteries, a common image showed Mithras flanked by two torchbearers, one on either side. One held a torch pointed upwards, the other downwards. This symbolized ascent to heaven or descent to hell.
    In Attis, a bull was slaughtered while on a perforated platform. The animal's blood flowed down over an initiate who stood in a pit under the platform. The believer was then considered to have been "born again." Poor people could only afford a sheep, and so were literally washed in the blood of the lamb. This practice was interpreted symbolically by Christians.
    There were many additional points of similarity between Mithraism and Christianity. 2 St. Augustine even declared that the priests of Mithraism worshiped the same God as he did: Followers of both religions celebrated a ritual meal involving bread. It was called a missa in Latin or mass in English.
    Both the Catholic church and Mithraism had a total of seven sacraments.
    Epiphany, JAN-6, was originally the festival in which the followers of Mithra celebrated the visit of the Magi to their newborn god-man. The Christian Church took it over in the 9th century.

    December 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm |
    • Dana West

      You really like to hear yourself expound this crap! You are so full of it you have no clue to the historic and factual events of the Judeo-Christian revelation....

      December 2, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @Lies

      You make a mistake.

      As far as I know the Christian Church replaced pagan feast days by Christian feast days, in order to manifest the victory of Christianity over paganism. Christian feast days are not the continuation of pagan feast days. You really err.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
    • shoozey

      GEEZ, lies–go get a drink or something! You are really wound up, aren't you?

      December 2, 2011 at 3:11 pm |
    • Get Real

      Sorry guys, @Lies is giving you the real deal.

      I do sympathize that it is tough to give up your fantasy - keep it for comfort, if you must, but do not proclaim that it is fact.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:18 pm |
    • Yo!

      "n order to manifest the victory of Christianity over paganism"

      Total crap it was so they could steal that religion, no victory, just stealing.

      December 2, 2011 at 4:30 pm |
    • Sunflower

      I grew up VERY Catholic.... But studied history at University... Once you study it...... Religion no longer holds the water or authority it did before you learned the truth of things.... I lamented over it for a while, and am now very peaceful and content. But I grieve for the ignorance of Christianity.... But they say ignorance is bliss.... Just not in my case.

      December 2, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
  6. serdich

    "More than 2,000 years ago, a child was born to two faithful travelers who could find rest only in a stable, among the cattle and the sheep,"

    ...at the same time the Red Riding Hood was walking to her gradma's house...

    December 2, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • God

      And an entire worldwide religion sprung up like wildfire after the story of little red riding hood was told. That alone was proof she existed.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
  7. Bruce Robertson

    So, Obama doesn't exhibit Christian values? Let's see...humility, honesty, a desire to help those who are less fortunate, being unsympathetic to the ultra wealthy, these may not seem "christian" but they certainly seem Christlike to me.

    December 2, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • serdich

      ..he also likes pasta...thus he is more Flying Spaghetti monster fan than JC fan...sorry..besides FSM heaven is better since you get pasta and Noodles..rAmen

      December 2, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
  8. Swami Brahmananda

    No one is born Christian, like prince Jesus who was not son of God.
    And there is no god the way church or any other religion portrays god. Whoever they were, have stopped visiting earth so dont expect any help from them.
    #### BE A GOD AND DO THE RIGHT THING! ####
    However no matter what you do if you are a Muslim and you stay muslim I guess thats what Muslims of third world countries believe.

    December 2, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • Curious

      Thanks, I'd wondered about that.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm |
  9. JD

    That's not a very Christian message. It's mostly a PC message. CNN wouldn't know real Christianity, though, would they?

    December 2, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
  10. jimdaman

    @warmesTghosT i love you.

    December 2, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Thank you sir, I try =D

      I truly do.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
    • serdich

      R U gays coming out or on... 😉

      December 2, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Thank God I'm an atheist and therefore don't have some silly superst-itious reason to hate, demean, judge and subjugate people who are different from me.

      Although I am a bit prejudiced against religious people, I freely admit...

      December 2, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
  11. catholic engineer

    Maybe we should elect an avowed atheist/materialist for president. It would be a good test. We'd want a genuine one, though. The world's full of atheists who borrow Judeo-Christian morals and say "See? I can be good without God." No. We'd want an atheist president who places his hand on Origin of Species, and declares that all the weakest Americans must be eliminated.

    December 2, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      That's not how evolution works. I would explain it, but I can tell you're not interested in learning anything, you're just here to troll and provoke. Have at it.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
    • serdich

      ..that is Nature's job...our job is to prevent it. This is where the atheists differ..we actually do something while they pray and say that god did it true us...who is the hypocrite..

      December 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
    • MarcAA

      If you don't mind my asking, exactly what kind of engineer are you?

      December 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
    • Regis990

      Well, you were on to something until that last part... But, as usual, Churchy McChurcherson gets things wrong when it comes to talking about atheism and evolution.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
    • Brad

      Well, that's not fair. I'm a Christian but I'll step up in defense of non-theist moralists. They may have no underpinnings, but they are sometimes true-believers in a familiar sort of morality – morality that may protect the weak. For that matter, Darwinism is compatible with altruism.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • I'm The Best!

      What you're looking for is a sociopath. Not an atheist. And no, they don't go hand in hand.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • catholic engineer

      @warmesTghosT Considering the quality of your previous posts, you have given up the right of accusing someone of trolling and provoking.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
    • Jonathan

      So do you design Nails and crucify as a professional Catholic Engineer?

      December 2, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      I supply reasoned and thought out replies to anyone with a legitimate query. Sometimes I troll, though rarely with the hypocrisy and vitriol you Christians apply.

      If you have any serious questions for me on any subject ranging from evolution to the history of your religion, I'd be glad to answer them honestly and comprehensively. I have the feeling, however, that you do not.

      Good day, sir or madam.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
    • Get Real

      catholic engineer,

      You seem to think that Jews and their offshoot, Christians, *invented* morals and ethics... that they are the *only* ones to have *ever* thought up beneficial human behaviors... and that *every* behavior that they ever espoused was moral and ethical.

      You would be wrong.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Atheists don't hold anyone, like Darwin, sacred. That would be silly.

      December 2, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @catholic engineer,
      "The world's full of atheists who borrow Judeo-Christian morals"
      The 'love thy neighbor' ethic is a variation on the Golden Rule which has been around a lot longer than Christianity and, I think, longer than Judaism.
      So, "remove the plank from thine eye, before..."

      December 2, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
  12. Just some guy who's "good, without god"

    Big surprise in the country that hates atheists more than anyone else (including Muslims)... that the President, supposedly a representative of ALL Americans, states the existence of God as a historical fact – rather than a cherished belief of millions, but still a belief. That said, I like Jesus, even if he's imaginary, a lot more than many of his followers, who would call him a filthy hippy if he showed up today in the flesh, telling them to be kinder to people. Merry Christmas and be good to each other!

    December 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
    • Felix The Navidad

      You liar. You are not good without God, your soul oozes maggots into your brain and life, without God ,there is no good, but you can not see that because your spiritual eyes are already eaten away.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Wooo Felix that's some good ole Christian love right there!

      Judge not, right?

      Love your fellow man, no?

      Or am I thinking of some totally different book?

      ...

      December 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
    • Regis990

      Guess Felix missed that part his playbook about not judging others.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
    • Felix The Navidad

      I can judge anyone i want. God told me so you silly athiest with your rotting rain corpse head. Just keep denying the obvious and you soul will join your rotten brain shortly.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"Big surprise in the country that hates atheists more than anyone else (including Muslims)... "

      I think that you are not correct on that one. Almost minority has someone making the claim that the country hates them and their group. The Gays and Lesbians, different ethnic minorities and Faiths.

      It is tiring. Try this, someone out there hates you, hates me, hates all of us for some reason. Pick up and go on with your life.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
    • serdich

      Felix is about to launch a jihad...or crucify ..or barbq someone..at the end just a closeted gay who hates himself and everything else..

      December 2, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      I think Felix is actually an atheist trolling with Poe's Law.

      That or the perfect argument for why I'm not a Christian.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
    • Just some guy who's "good, without god"

      @ Mark: Well, it was "least trusted", but you get the idea: http://blog.lib.umn.edu/edgell/home/Strib%20Atheist%20Faith%20and%20Values.html. Not a lotta love there 😛

      December 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
    • Jonathan

      Send Felix to Afganistan to preach Christianity and have him stoned to death.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:33 pm |
    • Felix The Navidad

      Statements of fact are not judgement. Do you not know we are to judge angels? The Word protects His own, not those who are soul dead and rotting in the compost of their own lies.

      December 3, 2011 at 8:28 am |
  13. NYC REPUB

    God Blessyou Mr. President! Obama 2012!!

    December 2, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
    • serdich

      You got it wrong it should be: "Electorate bless you Mr. President. Happy 2012 new 4years term"

      December 2, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
  14. HollyRae

    Anyone who does the damage that Obama has done to the US, has to be Godless.

    December 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Bush hurt us a hell of a lot worse, lady.

      Try reading something other than the Bible sometime, you might actually learn something.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
    • JohnQuest

      How did the President damage us? Many of you are making this statement without giving One example to support it. Name One thing that he has done worse (or even as bad) as any other President, just one thing?

      December 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
    • Regis990

      Well, I have health insurance now...my elderly parents can afford all of their meds now, not just some...so, bring on the paganism, HollyRae.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
    • shoozey

      JohnQuest: don't you read the &^%&^%$%^ news??? Obama has damaged this country in so many way it's impossible to list. But since you feel the need to prove the obvious:

      Obamacare-impossible to pay for, and who in their righ tmind would want to hand more control to the government?

      Botching foreign policy every time he steps out of the White house

      Bankrupting the country in three short years. Yes, Bush had a hand in this as well, with his LIBERAL spending, but Obama is Bush on Steroids

      Taking no action on immigration

      OK, I have to stop before I vomit...

      December 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
  15. mikaz

    I have seen no evidence that Bob Jones is a Christian.

    December 2, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
  16. Rainer Braendlein

    Obama forgot to mention the most important point of the Christmas message:

    God became man.

    It is actually incredible that the maker of heaven and earth visited his own creation. God, which is boundless beyond time and space entered our small limited world. God had sent many prophets to his people Israel, before he himself came, but most of them rejected the divine prophets (one of the greatest prophets was Moses, who led Israel through the Red Sea, but most of them died in the dessert after that and did not reach the promised Land, because of their disobedience). Finally God decided to visit the earth in the person of his Son or he sent his Son, in order to cause faith in the people of Israel.

    But Israel rejected even God himself, whom they could see, hear and touch now in the person of Jesus, and they didn't recognize their Messiah Jesus.

    The Eastern Roman Empire, was the only state, which has ever accepted Christianity to a larger extent (from 300 to 600 a. D.). Yet after 600 a. D. large areas of the world (Roman Empire and new Europe) got spiritually divastated by Catholicism and Islam, which still prevail in many regions of the world.

    After a very long period of darkness Dr. Martin Luther emerged and re-established the doctrine of the Early Church or of the Church of the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Church) or simply the biblical doctrine. The successor of the Byzantine Church are the Protestant Churches (of course today many Protestant Churches have entered a state of crisis and ordain gays pastors, which is anti-Christian).

    We need a reform of the Protestant Churches. We need to recognize that God doesn't want to forgive solely, but he also wants to deliver us. Forgiveness and deliverance belong together. They are one unit and cannot seperated from each other. If someone claims to be a Christian, he has to live the Christian life. The real faith causes good fruits. But it is important to mention that faith comes first. By simple faith in Jesus Christ we will experience deliverance and will become able to follow Jesus. After we got sacramentally baptized, we simply follow Jesus and thus our obedience is the expression of our inner faith.

    Moreover the greatest enemy of mankind beside Catholicism and Islam is our Western secularism or profanity. We have become that godless that every day of sunshine or rain, which God gives, is a miracle of grace. Nobody knows how long God's patience will still last.

    Let us pray that God the Father gives us faith or the Holy Ghost.

    December 2, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      It's truly scary that there are people like you all over this once great country of mine and that you vote based on these delusions.

      To be honest, Fundamentalist Christianity is the greatest threat our country faces. A voting bloc of 200+ million who base their political leanings on what their preacher tells them to. Generations born under the lie that human beings are basically evil and guilty of some ancient "sin". Children never properly educated or trained to think critically and to question the universe around them.

      I weep for America.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @warmesTghosT

      I actually belong to the "master race", but God had mercy on me and caused faith in me. I belong now to the worldwide Christian Church, in which the nationality is of little interest.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      So you were a Nazi? Or just an aryan?

      Either way, religious fundamentalism like yours is NOT good for society and is most DEFINITELY not good for governance. There's a reason why Europe slowly became more and more atheistic over the centuries. They saw the incredible destruction that religion causes.

      Secularism is the future. Religion is the past.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
    • Joe

      Now Obama delivers a christian message to the American people. The only reason we are hearing this now is because of the upcoming election. Obama the iiar could care less about the American people in genera. Time to elect someone that is qualified for the job. Obama is a complete failure.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @warmesTghosT

      Their is much historical evidence that Europe was harmed by Catholicism for a long time, but not by Christianity (I hope you are aware that Catholicism and Christianity are not the same).

      For 666 years the pope was higher than the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (today the Holy Roman Empir is called Europe; it was established around 800 a. D. by a criminal covenant between the wicked pope and Charles the Great). I guess, that this 666 years were the darkest age of mankind or the dark age of the dark age.

      True Christianity will cause prosperity for every nation.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Turn off Fox News and educate yourself, Joe. Obama is not the best president we've ever had and is certainly not the president he campaigned as, but he has done some good things for this country. Much more than the Congressional Republicans at any rate.

      Out of curiosity, who amongst the Republican candidates do you think will do a better job?

      December 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Rainer – as a student of history, I can tell you that ANY nation governed through religion has eventually toppled or shed the religion as far too damaging to society. The reason is that religion promotes divisiveness and groupthink and creates an "us against them" mentality.

      For example, look at yourself. You denigrate atheists for our lack of faith, and, in a truly Christian nation, would probably outlaw our beliefs (or lack thereof.) Atheists do not denigrate you for your beliefs, but rather your actions. The hypocrisy of Christianity is truly mind boggling and outright insane. You cherry-pick the Bible to justify your atrocious behavior, pay lip service to Jesus and then expect to get into Heaven.

      If Christians acted like Christ, atheists wouldn't have any problems with you. Problem is, damn near none of you do.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
    • shoozey

      warmestghost: YOU are the scariest person in America. You believe you are the only one who's opinion is valid. Like so many libs. As a Christian, I have harmed no one, and I do not mock others' beliefs. But look at the posts from atheists–that's all they do. And you are leading the charge; therefore you are the problem.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
    • Regis990

      You have a point, Shoozy...but not all Christians are like you. Look at some of the other posts here, like Felix. There ARE Christians who do the same thing you accuse ALL atheists of doing.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @warmesTghosT

      You said: "If Christians acted like Christ, atheists wouldn't have any problems with you. Problem is, damn near none of you do."

      A Christian strongly depends on a lively Church (a good Christian life is not possible without membership in a good Christian Church). Our problem today is that the Christian Church has nearly ceased. The most so-called Christian Churches in the USA re-baptize, which is a spiritual crime. The German Protestant Church (EKD) ordains gays priest, which is also a spiritual crime. Papacy is a spiritual crime. Rowan Williams is a Neo-Arian (Arian was the worst heretic besides Muhammad).

      Today a single Christian will not easily find a Church, were he can join. But the church membership is actually essential for the Christian life. Today Christians face an apocalyptic dilemma.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      @shoozey

      When I vote for atheists solely for their atheism, legislate my morality into our nations' laws, actively and passionately demean, subjugate and occasionally murder those who disagree with me, and tell everyone who doesn't think as I do that they deserve eternity in fiery torment, I'll be as bad as a Christian. Till then, sorry brother, your comparison does not hold up.

      I don't care what you believe – I care how you act. And you and your fellow Christians act NOTHING like Christ. The hypocrisy is sickening and the world is slowly waking up to the BS of your mythology.

      Jesus will someday go the way of Zeus, Ra, Odin and Cthulhu. Pity, the man had a beautiful message. You Christians have just spent the last 2,000 years failing SPECTACULARLY at living up to it.

      Good day, sir.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
    • Regis990

      Rainer, the religion that is currently "winning" has said the same thing throughout history. Egyptians thought their way was the only way, same with the Romans, Greeks, Norse, on and on and on...

      Religion was created by man for the purpose of controlling others. That's why you guys are called "followers".

      I'm not saying there isn't a god. I'm not saying we weren't put here by aliens, bigfoot, or Santa Claus. I'm human, I can't know all the answers...and neither you, nor your sacred book that was written by man, know all the answers either.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @Regis990

      I only can tell you that Christianity and Jesus are historical. That makes Christianity the "royal faith".

      Jesus himself was very humble and was not ashamed to wash the feet of his disciples.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Rainer – there is no historical or archaeological evidence for the existence of Jesus. He is not mentioned contemporaneously anywhere except in the Bible, and even then he was only written of DECADES after his purported death.

      Sorry, but it's very likely that Jesus Christ (Yeshua) never even existed.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
  17. Jesus H. Christ

    Stop with the nonsense of supernatural stories about me. I'm not some superman, nor do I perform wizardry and magic. I can't cheat the physical laws of the Universe and my dad is not a god. Just be good to each other and STOP with the supernatural crap that never happened.

    The stories in the Bible about me are just adaptations from earlier religions. Morals and ethics existed long before religion.

    December 2, 2011 at 2:21 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Jesus had admirable ideals. Too bad American Christians fail so spectacularly at living up to them.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • Dana West

      spoken like someone totally ignorant of the subject matter.....

      December 2, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
    • Chad

      What an idiot you are. It's always the idiots that like to chime in about how Christianity is a myth, etc. If you have nothing good to say about it, don't say it and let people believe what they want. You can go worship or believe what it is you want to. But why tear other people down for their beliefs? I know why, because your a pathetic person with nothing better to do with an empty soul and nothing to stand for. May God Bless you.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
    • MarcAA

      @Chad
      Just because you can't handle the truth doesn't mean everyone else can't either.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
    • ObamaDIDit

      Thats Blasphemy! just putting yourself AS Jesus, you are soooo wrong! you are taking his great name in vain and will probably regret this when the one TRUE Jesus comes back, this time he won't be nice and friendly he'll be here for revenge!

      Back to the story at hand – Obama was born a muslim and theres no allowance for conversion to any other faith within the muslim faith! so based on that I highly doubt he is a Christian! Rev. Wright is an Apostate (false christian)! If Obama was a real christian he'd try harder to help Israel, not lie to them! Another aspect that helps me to see he is a fake christian is the fact his name is still an arab name. In the bible when people become christian their name changes, they are renewed within christ.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:05 pm |
    • ObamaDIDit

      By the way, do any of you know the name of Muhammad's horse? it's Barack!

      He's Muslim, don't be fooled!

      December 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      Does that H stand for Herbert or Henry?

      If it's Henry, would you accept Hank?

      How about Herbie for Herbert? I'm really hoping that's what it is. When I swear from now on, I'm going to use "Jesus Herbie Christ!"

      December 2, 2011 at 3:16 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      @ObamaDIDit: You said, "By the way, do any of you know the name of Muhammad's horse? it's Barack!"

      Jesus Herbie Christ, we don't care!

      December 2, 2011 at 3:18 pm |
    • Colin

      Hello Chad. Do you still think the planet Earth formed in six days about 6,000 years ago with a man, a woman and a talking snake?

      No, christianity is not mythology.....

      December 2, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
    • Felix The Navidad

      The dead soul of Colin rots through his writing again.One can almost sense the smell and demeanor of a mortuary as Colin spreads his bile and putrid opinions on an innocent passer by like Chad.Truth will out Chad, Colin is twice dead and unable to help himself, the rot of who he really is is taking him over.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:43 pm |
    • Scrubbing Bubbles

      Felix plays with his feces, and makes fetid little poop pies to entertain himself.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:56 pm |
    • Felix The Navidad

      To scrubbing bubbles : Why do you bring up your own mind?

      December 3, 2011 at 8:30 am |
  18. bts

    God Bless You Mr. President! I'm SOOOO glad God allowed Obama to become President. NOW people can SEE the TRUE condition of their hearts! The SAME way God sees them. You can FOOL people... But you CAN'T FOOL God!!! All this hatred, and uncivilized behavior, and don't even mention the DESIRE for people to financially SUFFER, just to score political points. It has been a very eye opening past three years. I imagine God shaking his head and wondering why we can't get along and just love one another!

    December 2, 2011 at 2:18 pm |
  19. linda keeble

    abama is trying everything he thinks americans want to hear. all we want to hear from him is (I RESIGN) HE HAS DESTROYED SMALL BUSINESS IN AMERICA. HIM AND HIS CHICAGO THUGS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA ALONG WITH UOU LIBERAL NEWS PEOPLE. WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK, OUR FREE COUNTRY BACK..

    December 2, 2011 at 2:07 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Eloquently stated. Caps lock is truly the key to a compelling and rational argument.

      Also – Congressional Republicans are far more responsible for the deterioration of our country than Obama is. Turn off Faux Noise for a bit and do your own research.

      Oh wait, that's against you sheeple's religion, isn't it? Silly little me.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
    • svscnn

      Ah, just another in the long line of the Faux "informed."

      December 2, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
    • STLDan

      Linda you need your meds back because you obviously have stopped taking them.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
    • Teri

      It's all Obama (not abama) and the house majority republicans have nothing to do with what's going on in our country???

      December 2, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
    • steph

      You want to go back to Oct. 2008 when we were lost 100,000+ jobs in that month alone? Go ahead, but don't take me with you! I'll take positive jobs numbers for the past 11 months. That, to me, is a sign we are actually moving in the RIGHT direction, continuing to repair our country from a horrible recession.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:13 pm |
    • steph

      when we lost (sorry for the typo)

      December 2, 2011 at 2:15 pm |
    • Andy

      Actually what really destroyed our economy is the war in Iraq which had nothing to do with 9-11. Technically a good idea IF it would work, but all W's advisors told him it wouldn't...as his own father told him as well. Borrowing billions to pay for a war while at the same time giving huge tax cuts to the rich, and little cuts to the rest of us is what tanked our economy...which is what killed small business.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • Tami

      Apparently, the President is playing people. A person who truly is a Christian and believes in God does not abolish National Prayer Day, does not support Islam and does not declare that the United States is now a muslim nation instead of a Christian nation – all of which President Obama has done. His real motives and true agenda will be revealed all in good time. One thing is for certain, his values clearly do not align with the values the great country of the United States were founded upon: The Bible.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • JohnQuest

      Please provide an example "The President did this ???? and it cause that ????? and that is the reason for the decline in America.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
    • BRC

      @Tami,
      I really hope you are saying that just to draw a reaction, because there is very little if anything in your post that is actually true, and I would be very concerned if someone actually believe those things.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
    • kayray

      Turn off Fox and educate yourself.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
    • ProudToBe

      Did you just say Chicago thugs....really...how low of you say such a thing....Be proud to be American and support your country but by no means degrade a man by attempting to associate him with an image you have of a place. Mind you there are thugs everywhere of different races and nationalities..be careful not to sound like a racist...after all whatever happened to the melting pot that this country is supposed to be. GOD BLES AMERICA AND PRESIDENT OBAMA!!! and I actually pray that God bless you too so that you may stop having such racist ideas...!!

      December 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
    • Regis990

      Tami, you are 100% wrong about everything you wrote...When did the President declare this country to be a Muslim nation? When did the President "abolish" National Prayer Day? And just where did you get the idea that this country was founded upon the bible? You do know that most of the founding fathers were Deists, right? You do know that Thomas Jefferson wrote his own bible where he took out all the parts of miracles, resurrection, etc... Pick up a history book and read it...instead of throwing it on the fire.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
    • Regis990

      When in doubt about the basis of your argument, SHOUT IT OUT! Right, Linda?

      December 2, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
    • Get Real

      Tami,

      You seem to be educated enough to put together decent, grammatical sentences. Therefore it would follow that you can read fairly well... but WHAT in the heck have you been reading? Your "facts" are nonsense. Please get real.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
  20. warmesTghosT

    The fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter if he's Christian, Muslim, Jewish, atheist, Hindu, or what have you.

    The man is President, not preacher.

    I'd have thought we'd be a bit wary of letting any more Christians into the White House after that little 8 year stint we had with the Texas cowboy, but the Republicans seem to disagree.

    December 2, 2011 at 2:06 pm |
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