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My Take: Is ‘All-American Muslim’ begetting all-American bigotry?
One of the families on TLC's "All-American Muslim."
December 12th, 2011
10:29 PM ET

My Take: Is ‘All-American Muslim’ begetting all-American bigotry?

Editor's note: Arsalan Iftikhar is an international human rights lawyer, global media commentator and author of the book "Islamic Pacifism: Global Muslims in the Post-Osama Era."

By Arsalan Iftikhar, Special to CNN

Imagine for a moment that a major American corporation decided to remove its commercials from a reality television show highlighting the everyday lives of Latinos, African-Americans, members of the LGBT community or Jewish Americans because of coordinated letter-writing campaigns from right-wing organizations.

If you think this kind of bigotry could not happen in modern-day America, you would be absolutely wrong.

The hardware and building supply chain Lowe’s has pulled its TV commercials from future episodes of TLC’s new reality show “All-American Muslim” after a letter-writing campaign by the Florida Family Association, a Christian group.

The Tampa-based organization has urged companies to pull ads because it alleges the show is “propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law.”

This argument is lunacy and is a pretext for bigotry against Muslims, plain and simple. Using this sophomoric logic, the TLC reality show "Sister Wives" is a covert campaign to promote fundamentalist Mormon polygamy across America.

Nonetheless, in response to the growing controversy, Lowe's issued a terribly weak statement (and non-apology) on its Facebook page which states, in part:

“Lowe’s has received a significant amount of communication on this program, from every perspective possible. Individuals and groups have strong political and societal views on this topic, and this program became a lightning rod for many of those views. As a result, we did pull our advertising on this program.”

Wait a minute, Lowe’s. Exactly what "topic" are you talking about? Are we 7 million American Muslims merely a "topic" to discuss in today’s America? In 2011, do we live in a country in which an entire minority group can be dehumanized as a “topic?”

Plus, it is cowardly for Lowe’s not to  even mention this "topic" (aka Muslims) by name in its public statements.

What if right-wing groups were mobilizing against a television show highlighting the everyday lives of Latinos, African-Americans, Jewish people or gay people? Would Lowe’s have buckled?

Of course not.

What makes this national controversy all the more troubling is that many of the more than 12,000 comments responding to Lowe’s Facebook statement endorse the chain store’s decision, and in jingoistic language that is a lot less oblique than Lowe’s. Here are some of the comments that were showcased by BuzzFeed:

- “Thank you Lowes, for pulling your advertising from “All American Muslims” show (there is no such thing as “All American Muslims”).”

- “[The women on the TLC show] were almost pretty, till they put rags on their heads.”

- “How dare these people come into our country and try to take over and push their religion onto us!”

- “Thank you for pulling your support for American Muslim, now I will come back and shop in your stores.”

I wonder whether these people would ever have the guts to say these same things about other religious and ethnic groups in America today.

Do these people know that the cast members for "All-American Muslim" include a federal agent and a deputy chief of the Wayne County Sheriff’s Office, both of whom are proud American Muslims?

Do they know that some of America’s foremost heroes and celebrities, from boxer Muhammad Ali to comedian Dave Chappelle, are proud Muslims?

Just as anti-black, anti-Semitic, homophobic or anti-Latino campaigns should have no place in our country, it is important for Americans of all races, religions and ethnicities to stand up against the bigoted campaign against "All-American Muslim."

Otherwise, TLC might as well change the name of its show to "All-American Bigotry."

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Arsalan Iftikhar.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Islam • Opinion • TV

soundoff (2,079 Responses)
  1. Laurel

    Uhhhh.....don't be so hard on Lowe's folks. At least they went the distance and bought advertising on the show in the 1st place. Imagine all the companies who PASSED on advertising when the TLC Ad Sales people called them up. Imagine all the companies who REFUSED to advertise with them, from the git-go. Think we'll ever know who THEY are? Hell no. And I'm sure they're all breathing a sigh of relief right now, that it wasn't them, who had to endure what Lowe's is going through.

    December 14, 2011 at 1:09 am |
  2. Islamic intolerance

    http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Non-Muslims

    December 13, 2011 at 8:09 pm |
  3. Joe

    I'm goin' to HOME DEPOT!!!

    December 13, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      how about to HELL?

      December 13, 2011 at 9:22 pm |
    • Diane

      I will be joining you as well... HOME DEPOT from now!!!!

      December 13, 2011 at 10:41 pm |
  4. lynn

    That was Chris I agree with, not the rest of you!

    December 13, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
  5. vamp

    sorry i meant 3 related to muslims.

    December 13, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
  6. Why create controversy

    Have a show, call it 'All American family'; depict the lives of all Americans across all cultures.
    Why create this controversy by singling out the muslims?

    December 13, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
    • mcp123

      "why single out muslims"

      Because it hasn't been done before... basically showing the lives of ordinary everyday muslims living life here in the U.S.A.

      December 13, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      But, are they really filming in America when the setting is the most populous Muslim town in America? The story is more a Muslim town in America.

      December 13, 2011 at 9:54 pm |
    • mcp123

      "But, are they really filming in America when the setting is the most populous Muslim town in America?"

      Gee is the town physically located in "America" ... gee why yes... so yes they are filming in America! Wow the lack of intelligence in your question is astounding.

      December 13, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
  7. Reality

    Dear Arsalan,

    (We again request a reply addressing the following)

    The answer is easy:

    ( From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi)

    The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
    ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

    Are you ready?

    Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

    The First Five of the 77 Branches:

    "1. Belief in Allah"

    aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

    "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

    Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

    "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

    A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

    "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

    Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

    Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

    Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

    "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."

    Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

    Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

    Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

    Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    December 13, 2011 at 6:54 pm |
  8. ale

    Using the same Lowe's logic i can happily say: "what did you expect from a company out of North Carolina!" I'm sure this is perfectly fine with a lot of the posters here......

    December 13, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      @ale drunk on yourself.

      December 13, 2011 at 9:24 pm |
  9. Biff

    Problem with this writer's weak argument is that Mormons, Jews, African Americans etc. are not trying to kill Americans by any means they can conceive. That is exclusive to the Muslim faith, hence the valid concern. Besides, Lowe's has every right to advertise on whatever program they wish to!

    December 13, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
    • Rebuff

      Hardly! Remember Oklahoma? Remember Uni-bomber?

      December 13, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
    • Mycology

      Your hypocrisy is proven by the fact that you can recount ONE example of an atheist terrorist,

      and 0 more after that. No one can recall all the islamic suicide bombers, because the lists would stretch for literally thousands of names.

      December 13, 2011 at 8:17 pm |
    • Rose

      Regular people of the Muslim faith are NOT trying to kill Americans. I have read both the Bible and Qur'an many times, and have countless Muslim friends - I can tell you honestly that it is a religion based on peace. As with many faiths throughout history (i.e. Catholocism and the Inquisition), there are extremists that do idiotic things and blame religion. But a person doing something and blaming it on religion is NOT identical to what the religion really teaches. It's wrong to misrepresent or stereotype a person of any faith, nationality or creed based on the actions on lunatics.

      December 13, 2011 at 9:10 pm |
    • spr

      Biff, you are an ignorant fool. As with all religions, there are fundamentalists who give a bad name to the whole faith. Most American Muslims are kind, good and peaceful people who wish for nothing but good for their chosen homeland. We are lucky to have such great people in America.

      December 13, 2011 at 10:14 pm |
    • mcp123

      "Your hypocrisy is proven by the fact that you can recount ONE example of an atheist terrorist"

      McVeigh was KKK... a group long associated with the modern republican party. Here is one for you... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik right wing nutbag sandwich. You seem to think the problem doesn't exist among Christians or other nutters. It obviously does.

      December 13, 2011 at 10:30 pm |
  10. toadears

    this board has too much censorship for anyone who disagrees with their stories. I'm out.

    December 13, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
    • Reality

      toadears,

      I recommend reading the following before leaving:

      The moderators of this blog have set up a secret forbidden word filter which unfortunately not only will delete or put your comment in the dreaded "waiting for moderation" category but also will do the same to words having fragments of these words. For example, "t-it" is in the set but the filter will also pick up words like Hitt-ite, t-itle, beati-tude, practi-tioner and const-tution. Then there are words like "an-al" thereby flagging words like an-alysis and "c-um" flagging acc-umulate or doc-ument. And there is also "r-a-pe", “a-pe” and “gra-pe”, "s-ex", and "hom-ose-xual". You would think that the moderators would have corrected this by now considering the number of times this has been commented on but they have not. To be safe, I typically add hyphens in any word that said filter might judge "of-fensive".

      • Make sure the web address does not have any forbidden word or fragment.

      Sum Dude routinely updates the list of forbidden words/fragments.

      Two of the most filtered words are those containing the fragments "t-it" and "c-um". To quickly check your comments for these fragments, click on "Edit" on the Tool Bar and then "Find" on the menu. Add a fragment (without hyphens) one at a time in the "Find" slot and the offending fragment will be highlighted in your comments before you hit the Post button. Hyphenate the fragment(s) and then hit Post. And remember more than one full web address will also gain a "Waiting for Moderation".

      Zeb’s alphabetical listing

      o “bad letter combinations / words to avoid if you want to get past the CNN "awaiting moderation" filter:
      Many, if not most, are buried within other words, so use your imagination.
      You can use dashes, spaces, or other characters to modify the "offending" letter combinations.
      --–
      ar-se.....as in Car-se, etc.
      ba-stard
      co-ck.....as in co-ckatiel, co-ckatrice, co-ckleshell, co-ckles, lubco-ck, etc.
      co-on.....as in rac-oon, coc-oon, etc.
      cu-m......as in doc-ument, accu-mulate, circu-mnavigate, circu-mstances, cu-mbersome, cuc-umber, etc.
      cu-nt.....as in Scu-ntthorpe, a city in the UK famous for having problems with filters...!
      do-uche
      ef-fing...as in ef-fing filter
      ft-w......as in soft-ware, delft-ware, swift-water, etc.
      fu-ck......!
      ho-mo.....as in ho-mo sapiens or ho-mose-xual, ho-mogenous, etc.
      ho-rny....as in tho-rny, etc.
      jacka-ss...yet "ass" is allowed by itself.....
      ja-p......as in j-apanese, ja-pan, j-ape, etc.
      ji-sm
      koo-ch....as in koo-chie koo..!
      nip-ple
      pi-s......as in pi-stol, lapi-s, pi-ssed, therapi-st, etc.
      pr-ick....as in pri-ckling, pri-ckles, etc.
      ra-pe.....as in scra-pe, tra-peze, gr-ape, thera-peutic, sara-pe, etc.
      se-x......as in Ess-ex, s-exual, etc.
      sh-@t.....but shat is okay – don't use the @ symbol there.
      sh-it
      sl-ut
      sn-atch
      sp-ic.....as in disp-icable, hosp-ice, consp-icuous, susp-icious, sp-icule, sp-ice, etc.
      ti-t......as in const-itution, att-itude, ent-ities, alt-itude, beat-itude, etc.
      tw-at.....as in wristw-atch, nightw-atchman, etc.
      va-g......as in extrava-gant, va-gina, va-grant, va-gue, sava-ge, etc.
      who-re....as in who're you kidding / don't forget to put in that apostrophe!
      wt-f....also!!!!!!!

      There are more, some of them considered "racist", so do not assume that this list is complete.
      -–
      Allowed words / not blocked at all:
      anal
      anus
      ass
      boob
      crap
      damn
      execute
      hell
      kill
      masturbation
      murder
      penis
      pubic
      raping (ra-pe is not ok)
      shat (sh-@t is not ok)
      sphincter
      testes
      testicles

      The CNN / WordPress filter also filters your EMAIL address and NAME as well – so you might want to check those.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      let me try humbug, axwound, and creambucket

      December 13, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      oh this is fun meekrob, barbra streisand, Rick Santorum

      December 13, 2011 at 8:19 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      holy sh_t storm on a flying cheeseburger you can say Santorum on this blog
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      The definition is.
      Santorum 1. The frothy mix of lu-be and fe-cal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of an-al se-x. 2. Senator Rick Santorum.

      December 13, 2011 at 8:23 pm |
  11. Chris

    The only religion currently killing people in the name of their religion is islam. What bigotry are we talking about defending those acts of violence? get over yourself.

    Lowe's you did the right thing!

    December 13, 2011 at 6:31 pm |
    • mcp123

      Perhaps you havent heard of this guy.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik or your just too dim to realize how wrong you are. Or maybe you haven't heard of this guy... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

      Need I say any more?

      December 13, 2011 at 7:21 pm |
    • P12QT

      Go read up http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Non-Muslims and see the atrocities comitted. You may afterall find out that you have been out of touch with reality lately.

      December 13, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
    • lynn

      I agree with you completely!

      December 13, 2011 at 7:36 pm |
  12. Reike

    Because everyone knows that the christian religion is incredibly non violent. Let's forget about the crusades, the Oslo shooting, and the many people in the KKK who are proud christians and wish to lynch those of varying races.

    After all, THOSE people weren't real peace loving christians that send their confused children to "Straight Camps" to cure them of their sin. The show is called Muslims in AMERICA, if the typical republican believes america is so flawless, then why wouldn't they think that this great country could pacify these barbaric sand people?

    December 13, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
    • Biff

      You seem to be confusing things that happened hundreds of years ago (the so-called crusades) and isolated extremism that has nothing to do with Christianity with what is common and prevalent with the Muslim religion. That is repeated and continued violence against any and all that oppose their views. Stop your silly and disingenuous political correctness.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:56 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      @Reike what faith are the suicide bombers? dont start talking about something 600 years ago.

      December 13, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
    • John Richardson

      The tactic of suicide bombing was first developed by the Tamil Tigers, who were Hindu.

      December 13, 2011 at 9:41 pm |
    • mcp123

      "You seem to be confusing things that happened hundreds of years ago (the so-called crusades) and isolated extremism that has nothing to do with Christianity with what is common and prevalent with the Muslim religion"

      Hey do you remember... http://www.historyguy.com/balkan_war_third.htm The Third Balkan War? Want to talk about the mass graves of thousands of muslim men and boys? No of course you don't... because it all happened hundreds of years ago right? try 1991-2001.

      This from a german American agnostic... btw... you christians have plenty of blood on your hand. To the point where you can't claim any moral superiority... murderers... molesters... terrorists.

      December 13, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
  13. colbertreport

    Philly, don't listen to these leftys. It's obvious that this isn't a religion. It's terrorist recruitment! All these people are like that! Thanks for showing that these people are in reality all murderous bigots. I hate bigots! I can't stand them and I won't tolerate them! Especially bigots who claim to be religious. Until these bigots start seeing things the way you and I and the rest of us churchgoing real Americans see things, we should round them up and kick them out of the country. God bless America, and no one else!

    December 13, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
    • The Yeah Guy

      Yeah!

      December 13, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      I'm sure there are thousands of little girls who are glad you feel that way.

      http://sheikyermami.com/2007/05/31/female-genital-mutilation-is-part-of-the-sunna-of-the-prophet/

      Thanks for choosing political correctness!

      December 13, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      A little warning about the photos. They're graphic. Also enclosed is the part of the Koran that refers to FGM, and to clerics calling for the use of FGM. This is an Islamic phenomenon, and it is not enclosed by boundaries like language or nationality.

      http://sheikyermami.com/2007/05/31/female-genital-mutilation-is-part-of-the-sunna-of-the-prophet/

      Where are the calls for boycotts of these nations? Do you seem like a pack of liberal ninnies now? Sure you do.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
    • mcp123

      "I'm sure there are thousands of little girls who are glad you feel that way"

      Gee did you know that that practice is only done in the most radical divisions of Islam? Do we want to mention anything now about Waco Texas... or various "christian" religious sects that believe its ok to have multiple young (under 16) wives?

      No of course you don't want to mention that.

      December 13, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
    • BG

      @ mcp123

      " Gee did you know that that practice is only done in the most radical divisions of Islam? "

      Like in London. London, England. You know... Londonstan. They send their kids back home for the 'procedure' during school break, and they come home without their cli toruses. It drives the poor English teachers crazy because they can't (or aren't allowed) to do anything about it. Go fined the f'n citation for yourself. It's there.

      Take a hike, you miserable excuse for a human.

      December 13, 2011 at 7:39 pm |
  14. Wow

    I spent a little time today reading comments on this story. Lots of them, actually. I tried to see things from lots of points of view.

    It seems the ones I read fell into three categories:
    1) People surprised by the hate in the comments...
    2) People who wanted to troll and flame...
    3) Hate comments.

    Hate. Think about it.

    Is our world that bad? A simple television show about peoples' lives causes THIS much hate in a public CNN page? REALLY?

    Wow.

    Since when did Jesus (or any other spiritual leader) EVER want us to hate?

    December 13, 2011 at 5:54 pm |
    • Bene Gutman

      As a Jew, Jesus was likely as racist as all the other Jews of his time. And since Rome was running the show, it was probably a good idea to keep your head down and avoid the Jewish priests that were after you for being a heretic.
      Hate? Jesus hated many things, many people. He hated the moneychangers who were no better than today's Wall Street, he hated hypocrites like so many modern Christians ARE, he hated the Pharisee Jewish cult that made a big deal out of tradition, loud prayers, and ceremony like modern Catholics, and he hated those who pursued religion for its own sake while ignoring the meanings behind the religion.
      Jesus hated lots of stuff and people. He was a hater at times. But then after he was done having a meltdown he would be all smiles and sunshine and protective of people just trying to live from day to day. He was just a fringe cult leader with a messiah complex, not anyone special. Anybody can do that stuff.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      @Wow FUKKK YOU LIBERAL

      December 13, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
    • mcp123

      "FUKK YOU LIBERAL"

      Your a perfect example of the quality of debate one can expect from the republican party. LOL

      December 13, 2011 at 10:51 pm |
  15. PhillyRN

    Not all Muslims, but a considerable number of them that is hard to quantify agree with this guy, who is found of saying "Death to America and death to the Jews!"

    Charming fellow. Why anyone would not want him next door is proof that Lowes is run by Satan. Liberal logic.

    http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3227.htm

    Bit of a problem with the whole Every Muslim is Great view of the Left - quite a few of these Muslims want to kill us. Sorry to be a downer on your high on people party.

    Though we are out of Iraq, so more Muslims should love us now, seems not to work that way.

    See, we are in Iran. Out of the frying pan and into the fire, I know. They have our drone. We're going to go get it. That's called war.

    That means that we should be a little smart about the whole" they want to kill us" problem, starting by realizing that it is often true. We might have to stop singing Kumbaya and "It's a Small World" and defend ourselves.

    December 13, 2011 at 5:44 pm |
    • Observer

      PhillyRN,

      There are about 5 to 6 MILLION Americans who are Muslim. Please tell us how many of them "agree with this guy, who is found of saying "Death to America and death to the Jews!" Statistics please to support your point. We'll wait to hear.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
    • Nonimus

      "Not all Muslims, but a considerable number of them that is hard to quantify agree with this guy,"

      'Hard to quantify" because you have no freaking idea.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      It's a large enough number so that it requires us to periodically have to go to war with them.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      I'd say that mosque he was preaching in looked pretty packed.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      It's a high enough number so that it has made flying fairly inconvenient, you might have noticed.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:09 pm |
    • mcp123

      "Bit of a problem with the whole Every Muslim is Great view of the Left – quite a few of these Muslims want to kill us. Sorry to be a downer on your high on people party. "

      Should we even mention Breivik? Timothy McVeigh? None of those people (right wing nutbags) want to kill anyone right?

      December 13, 2011 at 7:24 pm |
    • BG

      @ mcp123

      Yet another lame attempt at obfuscation, misdirection, and overstatement. What's the -real- worldwide ratio?

      50:1? 1,000:1? 10,000:1?

      More than likely it's just "whatever you say" it is.... sorry, Mo. Even the Americans are on to you. Go pull the wool over the eyes of the English or Scandinavians. What's that? They're píssed off at muslims too?

      So much for establishing the Caliphate. Quick, run back home while you still have a home.

      December 13, 2011 at 8:03 pm |
    • Mark

      PhillyRN...

      Bravo!!!! Very well put.

      It's a shame, we seem to be fighting a war on 3 fronts now. Iraq, Afghanistan, and now the war at home with all the left wing IDIOTS with very short memories. Just think, it was only 10 years ago we said goodbye to 3000+ fellow Americans killed in name of Islam. Now, fast forward to the present day and it seems that Muslims are catered to at every turn. The more and more I read, the more I'm afraid that America won't be defeated on a battlefield in the Middle East, but rather right here at home by morons that aren't even smart enough to know who the enemy is.

      December 13, 2011 at 9:56 pm |
    • mcp123

      "Yet another lame attempt at obfuscation, misdirection, and overstatement. What's the -real- worldwide ratio?

      50:1? 1,000:1? 10,000:1?"

      Really so you think there are no more examples... how about Warren Jeffs? Would you like more? It doesn't really matter what the "ratio" is. BTW you aren't talking to a muslim your talking to a german/irish American agnostic who thinks both sides are equally guilty of crimes against humanity and both sides deserve destruction for 2,000 years of utter stupidity.

      December 13, 2011 at 10:42 pm |
    • BG

      " t doesn't really matter what the "ratio" is."

      The hell it doesn't, and if you don't acknowledge the disproportion in contemporary history you're just propagandizing.

      What a revelation. Just another 'agnostic' (sure you don't want to take the plunge into atheism?) muslim sympathizer attempting to mitigate Islam by demonizing Christianity. I doubt you're either an agnostic, atheist, or anything in-between. You lost your credibility when you tried to soft-pedal FMG as being limited to "radical" Islam, then attempting to draw a parallel with (alleged) Christian underage marriage. If you are an agnostic, you're certainly a confused one. More likely that you're just another blathering Muslim.

      December 13, 2011 at 11:32 pm |
  16. Freedom to choose

    PhillyRN

    But you are the only one posting about the Muslim side but conviently leaving out the other facts. Facts that I presented that there ARE PLENTY practicing FGM that are NOT MUSLIM. But you keep posting the same link over and over as though they are the only ones doing it. So, stop trying to say they are the most that are doing it. Go to Africa. I am sure the villagers are not Muslim.

    "I merely oppose the show for not bringing to light a single problem in Islam that is worthy of some kind of honest treatment"
    That is what you said. So should there be a show about catholic priests that are constantly molesting young boys? Is it safe to say that is the SINGLE PROBLEM in that religion? No, that isn't a fair assumption.

    The highest population of this happening is in AFRICA.

    http://www.blatantworld.com/feature/the_world/female_genital_mutilation.html

    So stop with your same old story. If you feel so strongly about this topic instead of posting here why not go and help?

    This show is only to show, hey guess what they are just like you and I and you may just know a Muslim and you dont even know it. They are football coaches, teachers, police chiefs, federal agents. This is to show you every Muslim is NOT and extremist. Just like its safe to say not every priest will molest your son.

    December 13, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      No most FGM is done by Muslims.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      The only group citing their religious texts as a source for performing FGM is Islam. The overwhelming use of FGM is by Muslims.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      The overwhleming use of male circumcision is by jews and christians.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      Yes, the preponderance of FGM is done in Africa by Muslims. Do you realize that there are many Muslim nations in Africa? Try the north - that is where this is going on in full force, meaning no girl escapes.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:10 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Thousands and thousands of male circumcisions are performed in the USA and other "western" countries every year.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:12 pm |
    • mcp123

      "No most FGM is done by Muslims"

      Hmmm most molesting young children is done by christian preachers... whats your point?

      December 13, 2011 at 7:25 pm |
    • BG

      @ Freedom to choose

      Tell me something. I know what Italian-Americans and African-Americans, etc. are. But I've never heard of a "Catholic-American." What's the impetus behind identifying one's self as a "Muslim-American" over, say, being a Lebanese-, Pakistani-, etc. American? Why place the priority on their religion over their birthplace? Does any other demographic do this? I can't think of one. Maybe you can.

      What I -do- know is that public figures that are football coaches, teachers, administrators, legislators,and police authorities in Musim enclaves take every opportunity to identify themselves as being "Muslim" in an apparent effort to forward a Muslim agenda. From Fordson to Keith Ellison's office, it's always the same boilerplate. " We're so offended. We're so persecuted... poor me.. poor us. Big bad bigoted you..."

      Yet no one complains about routine Islamic prayer in a Dearborn high school. Why is that ?

      December 13, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
  17. Observer

    In the 1940's "all Germans were bad and out to kill us". Now we recently had our president give their leader a neck rub.
    In the 1940's "all Ja-panese were bad and out to kill us.". Now we welcome them as tourists.
    In the 1950's "all Russians were bad and out to kill us". Now we launch space flights with them.

    Same mentality now about Muslims. SOME people are too IGNORANT to learn.

    December 13, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      I'm not saying all Muslims are bad. I'm saying that the show does not include a full accounting of Muslims being who they are by their own words. For a full treatment, we'd need to include the reactions of US Muslims to this guy:

      http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3227.htm

      How are you a US Muslim, when so many prominent Muslim clerics call for "death to America, and death to the Jews?" Where and when is that no longer Islamic, and what replaces it?

      December 13, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
    • Observer

      PhillyRN,

      That's okay. I knew you didn't want to talk about the topic here: Muslims in America.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
    • Gurgi

      Actually the Russians were out to kill us until 1990 or thereabouts, but I married one in 2000. Most of society changes and progresses forward, the religion of islam seems not to. Just going by statistics the world over.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      It appears to be a troubling number. Are you saying that this guy is merely aberrant, not representative of Gaza, of the West Bank, of Somalia, of Iran, and I could add others?

      December 13, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      I'm specifically referring to Muslims in America.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
    • PhillyRN

      It's pretty astounding to me that here's a guy that says "Death to America, Death to the Jews," and cites Hadith to support his theory of the necessity of Jews to be dead, and yet it is Lowes that is getting boycotted.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
    • BigZ

      I know I'm reposting this, but Philly, this applies to the points you're making. Who cares what some idiot in another country is saying? He's not American. Are you really so dumb that you let a foreign terrorist's views distort your own about Americans? If so, how are you any better than the terrorists in those countries that lets the same guy distort their views?

      To all the people that are comparing the United States of America to muslim states, did you forget that we are supposed to be better than that? So what if there is a stoning in Saudi Arabia? This isn't Saudi Arabia. I'm sure there are Saudies who have moved to the United States to escape just that. Do we really want to alienate those people? Did you forget that for centuries people have moved to the United States to get away from atrocities elsewhere? Jews, Christians, Muslims and practicers of other religions have come to the United States for many of the same reasons. One of which is to practice their beliefs in peace. Why are we so quick to alienate Americans because of the actions of foreigners? It's not fair. It's not American. America is supposed to be a beacon of hope for people in the world. We shouldn't be comparing ourselves to backward states.

      December 13, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
    • GodPot

      PhillyRN – "I'm saying that the show does not include a full accounting of Muslims being who they are..." No, we have shows like 24 that give us the "full account" right?

      And whenever we have a show on Conservative America we should roll out some footage of a christian militia gun nut whos holed up in the back woods with duct taped windows in case of the anthrax attacks to give "a full accounting of Christians and who they are, right?

      December 13, 2011 at 6:19 pm |
  18. Jimbo

    Assumptions? I did not state any....but what were thinking my assumptions were? That some muslims would be irrate that the mother pictured above is showing her beautiful hair and her chest is exposed, that men think she is hot and imagine themselves in bed with her, that she allows her daughter to wear a dress that shows her legs.....I would 'assume' that some american muslims feel this way and it would be interesting to know how many.

    December 13, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
  19. Jimbo

    Assumptions? I did not state any....but what were thinking my assumptions were? That some muslims would be irrate that the mother pictured above is showing her beautiful hair and her chest is exposed, that men think she is hot and imagine themselves in bed with her, that she allows her daughter to wear a dress that shows her legs.....I would 'assume' that some american muslims feel this way and it would be interesting to know how many. That is all.

    December 13, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  20. BigZ

    To all the people that are comparing the United States of America to muslim states, did you forget that we are supposed to be better than that? So what if there is a stoning in Saudi Arabia? This isn't Saudi Arabia. I'm sure there are Saudies who have moved to the United States to escape just that. Do we really want to alienate those people? Did you forget that for centuries people have moved to the United States to get away from atrocities elsewhere? Jews, Christians, Muslims and practicers of other religions have come to the United States for many of the same reasons. One of which is to practice their beliefs in peace. Why are we so quick to alienate Americans because of the actions of foreigners? It's not fair. It's not American. America is supposed to be a beacon of hope for people in the world. We shouldn't be comparing ourselves to backward states.

    December 13, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
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