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December 19th, 2011
12:08 PM ET

Christianity goes global as world's largest religion

By Richard Allen Greene, CNN

(CNN) - Christians are by far the largest religious group on the planet, and the religion has gone truly global over the past century, according to a new report out Monday, which finds some of the world's biggest Christian communities in surprising places.

Europe was the clear center of world Christianity one hundred years ago, but today the Americas are home to more than a third of all Christians. In fact, the United States has the world's largest Christian population, of more than 247 million, followed by Brazil and Mexico.

China also appears on the list of top 10 largest Christian populations - with an estimated 67 million Christians, it has more followers of the faith than any western European country.

There are nearly 2.2 billion Christians around the world, making up about one-third of the world's population - the same percentage as a century ago, according to the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life.

Islam is the world's second largest religion, with about 1.6 billion followers worldwide, the Washington-based organization calculates. That's just under one-quarter of the estimated 2010 world population of 6.9 billion.

Sub-Saharan Africa has seen the biggest explosion in its Christian population in the past century, going from about 9 million Christians in 1910 to about 516 million today - nearly a quarter of all the world's Christians. Three of the world's ten largest Christian populations are in Africa: Nigeria, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Ethiopia.

The study, "Global Christianity," is based on demographic and opinion data from 232 countries and territories. It's part of the Pew-Templeton Global Religious Futures Project, which has also included reports on the current and projected number of Muslims in the world.

It does not measure practice or belief, merely counting as Christian anyone who says they are.

The report calculates that half the world's Christians are Catholic, 37% are Protestants, and 12% are Orthodox. The remaining 1 percent belong to other traditions such as Mormonism.

- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Belief • Christianity

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  1. Julia

    never understood hostility towards religion. if it doesn't exist for you, then why get upset? seems pretty silly to project so much negative energy or waste your breathe fighting something that is not even real. as for the first several chapters in Genesis, i don't know anyone who takes them literally, even Catholics don't. those stories are to show the nature of God and human beings and to explain the relationship between the two. so i think we can all rest assured on that one. also, many people think that religion is evil but i think atheists can be just as corrupt and horrible as people who say they are believers. it's really about lifestyle and if you're a believer, actually living that lifestyle according to the principles. let's face it, the principles in the Bible are high standards, such as, love your neighbor as yourself (talk about pulling your teeth on that one). even an atheist is a believer because they believe in something since they follow a list of standards to live by and if they don't follow their own principles, then they are a hypocritical atheist. i've met many good Christians, Muslims, and atheists, and i've also met many unpleasant Christians, Muslims, and atheists. but so what? just move on. but lets not forget that many major civilizations had some sort of religion as a means of community. but perhaps in this modern society where technology and living conditions are much improved, people don't need religion for community since we are living in a much more individualist world and don't want to be "tied down". if we want an idea of what a developed country where religion is dwindling looks like, we can always observe various countries of Europe and see where the US might be headed as well.

    December 23, 2011 at 11:52 pm |
    • mickey1313

      The hate comes from reading history, and knowing that most of the evils of humanity in the past 2000 years have been comited for the "loveing god of the christians". It is time that all christians and thiests for that matter are held acountable for there actions. Look at the countries distroyed by thiesm. You cannot give any examples of how this anacronastic belief system helps out anyone (except the clergy) and you can point out 100's if not 10000's of hypocracies and evils in the church.

      December 25, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
    • kateslate

      Good post. However, I understand that the hostility comes when religious people try to make laws that apply to everybody, and are based on their own personal religious beliefs. You cannot impose your personal understanding of religion or god or God or your way of living on another. Seems like anything from dietary habits to work schedules to birth control and procreation is addressed by differing religions, and one cannot choose for another what those restrictions can be. Thus the hostility when people get wrapped up in fervor for everybody to be like them. Go and practice your religion in your own private life. When you child tells my child that his parents are going to hell because they drink coffee....well, then, sir, we have a problem. Can you understand that?

      December 27, 2011 at 12:44 am |
  2. Herrigus

    I'm Athiest, but better Christianity than Islam in my opinion.

    December 23, 2011 at 11:39 pm |
    • Ashtin

      It's ignorant people like you that cause hatred in this world.

      December 24, 2011 at 12:45 am |
  3. Really-O?

    Just in case there are some out there who haven't seen these doozies from Chad ...

    "Every book that purports to accurately record history needs to be examined critically for internal consistency and for its accuracy in detail. The bible succeeds on all accounts."

    "The Genesis account stands alone amongst all creation stories of the time, a fact universally acknowledged. ...We are only know [sic] beginning to scientifically discover how accurate it is indeed."

    ...face-palm.

    December 23, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
    • Chad

      you'll make your point better if you provide data to refute that claim...

      December 23, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
    • Roo

      "The Genesis account stands alone amongst all creation stories of the time, a fact universally acknowledged. ...We are only know [sic] beginning to scientifically discover how accurate it is indeed."

      The genesis accounts do not stand alone. They are simply rehashes and modified Israelite versions of the earlier ancient near east creation myths. The only thing new about it is it's transformation from polytheism to monotheism. They kept the same motifs. So, no. It is simply a pattern of ancient civilization.

      December 24, 2011 at 1:00 am |
    • Chad

      @Roo "The genesis accounts do not stand alone. They are simply rehashes and modified Israelite versions of the earlier ancient near east creation myths. The only thing new about it is it's transformation from polytheism to monotheism. They kept the same motifs. So, no. It is simply a pattern of ancient civilization"

      => examples please? 🙂

      December 24, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
    • Really-O?

      ...and one more bit of hysterical tripe from Chad –

      "I dismiss all other gods other than the God of Abraham because the God of Abraham has told me that they aren't real."

      Lord almighty Chad, you have a fortune waiting for you if you ever decide to become a comedy writer!

      December 24, 2011 at 7:44 pm |
    • mickey1313

      there is not a single provable fact in the bible. Ad when compaired to texts of know historians of the time, you cannot calaborate any of there myths, from the myth of king soloman, to the myth of jesus, neather existed in history.

      December 25, 2011 at 9:01 pm |
  4. TL@Chad

    =>OK John, I'll take you up on that. You pick a book for me to read, I pick a book for you to read. We come back in 30 days with book reports.

    Are you willing to extend that challenge?

    December 22, 2011 at 11:33 pm |
    • Chad

      Absolutely, but only if you are sincere in doing so.

      Provide a few links to other posts you have made on this blog so that I can get a sense of whether or not you are just a troll(no offense, but purchasing and reading a book is no small outlay of time/money)..

      December 23, 2011 at 10:08 pm |
    • TL@Chad

      There is not enough content through those posts for you to make a valid decision. Propose an alternate solution or stick with your original choice.

      Sincerity on an individual level is often proven through what isn't apparent.

      To address the necessity of source:
      A source helps identify the validity of the information presented, similar to a caller's identification.

      There would be a requirement to borrow a book and spend sufficient time on analysis of the material.

      December 24, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
    • Chad

      well, as I have been burnt by this before, I suggest you make some posts such that I can see where you are coming from. Weigh in on some topics.

      December 24, 2011 at 10:30 pm |
    • TL

      The method utilized would be required to make an accurate analysis.

      In consideration of the environment of this board, it is necessary to apply various controls. The environment of a blog makes it difficult to ascertain what is valid in a factual sense and what is valid in an individual sense. The ability of a poster to choose whatever name or opinion they choose allows for misrepresentation of entire groups. It is my preference to remove that bias and review the posts on an individual level.

      When reviewing the content of this board, I enact various measures to help remove bias and prevent preformation.

      1) Removal of Affiliations (religion, gender, race, etc.)
      2) Search for Validity (factual)
      3) Search for Validity (individual)
      4) Consideration of the Individual's Environment
      5) Consideration of Topic

      In addition, I also include an additional control point of reviewing posts separately as well as in their entirety. It helps present the reasoning behind the post and at times even the purpose.

      I have provided my method as a reference. If you require the reasoning behind it, just ask.

      An exchange of ideas doesn't require an agreement.

      December 27, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
    • DONALD

      TO MICKY1313
      ACTUALLY SODAM AND GOMORAH ARE FOUND, AND PROVED TO BE STRICKEN BY FIRE AND BRIMSTONE. SCIENTIST CALL IT AN ASTROID. DUHHH. THERE TILL THIS DAY. THE BOOK OF JOSHUA, CITY OF MEGIDO WAS BURNED AND TORN DOWN BY THE ISREALITES. STILL THERE TILL THIS DAY, OLIVE OILS AND WOOD DOES BURN. BOOK OF GENESIS: MOSES LED OUT THE ISREALITES , 650 EGYPTIAN CHERIOTS CHASED THEM DOWN BY PHEROH AND HIS ARMY. UNEARTHED 20TH CENTURY AND WOW! THEY FOUND 650 AINCIENT CHERIOT STALL'S FOR THE HORSES. THERE TILL THIS DAY. NOT CHERIOTS' THEY ARE IN THE RED SEA. ABRAHAM IS BURIED IN HEBRON . HIS GRAVE IS THERE TILL THIS DAY, HIS SON, ISSAIC'S WIFE IS BURIED AND MARKED IN JERUSALEM TILL THIS DAY, DAVID AND GOLIATH . GOLIATH'S HEAD WAS CARRIED BY DAVID AND BURRIED IN GALGOTHA. SAME NAME FOR CALVERY WHERE AWSOME JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR US. EVERYTING IN THE BIBLE IS TRUE AND NOT A FAIRYTALE. THE DEVIL HAS BLINDED PEOPLE'S MIND'S AND SO YOU CANOT SEE ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT SCIENCE SAYS. GOD GAVE KNOWLEGE HE IMPUTED EVERY THAUGHT IN MAN'S MIND TO CREATE EVERYTING IN THE LAST DAYS. SO WOW!!. 5,900YRS OF HORSES AND SPEARS LAST 120 YRS TO ALL THAT YOU SEE TODAY, GOD SAID IN THE LAST DAYS I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT OF KNOWLEGE UPON MEN TO NOW THINGS IN THE LAST DAYS. NO ONE WOULD OF EVER INVENTED ANYTHING IF IT WERE NOT FOR GOD. UNLESS YOU CALL UPON JESUS CHRIST AND ASK HIM (WITH A SENCERE HEART) THEN YOU WILL KNOW. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU. GOD LOVES YOU. CHRISTIANS ARE SINNERS. NON-CHRISTIANS ARE ALL SINNER'S. BIG DIFERENCE !! CHRISTIANS ARE FORGIVEN, AND LIVE IN PEACE AND KNOW ABOUT LORD GOD. AND LOOK FORWARD TO BEING WITH OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN. HEAVENLY FATHER"

      March 14, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Keep feeding your delusion. Known fact the Jews borrowed stories in the region. I fail to see the historical referrence to a town or people from hindsight fo men as evidence of a god?????? Your wishful thinking is based on assumption as to any link to a god.

      March 14, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
  5. motar

    <>

    “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you." (Matthew 7:21-23 NIV)

    December 22, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
  6. Kenrick Benjamin

    (C)Huckles it's Science and the Bible.

    December 22, 2011 at 4:00 pm |
  7. Kenrick Benjamin

    AtheistSteve and Jehovah is Light(Energy).

    December 22, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • (C)huckles

      Please cite your sources.

      Thanks

      December 22, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
    • naomi

      Jehovah is more than light, He is the Creator of heaven and earth and all human being even you!
      thank you

      December 23, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
  8. Kenrick Benjamin

    AtheistSteve My sentiments exactly who new back then that what created the universe was energy.

    December 22, 2011 at 12:01 pm |
  9. Kenrick Benjamin

    Rick we all know that everything is govern by laws or the wouldn't be anything. WE know that the Universe is Governed by laws and as such it applies to us all. Now if these laws are broken the are consequences some greater than others.

    December 22, 2011 at 11:28 am |
  10. Kenrick Benjamin

    AtheistSteve an Assertion Made how long ago.

    December 22, 2011 at 8:47 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Not relevant. Popularity or length of time an idea persists says nothing about whether or not it's true. I already described how Aristotle determined that the Earth was a sphere but the vast majority of people remained steadfast in their idea that it was flat for 1800 years longer.

      December 22, 2011 at 9:16 am |
  11. Kenrick Benjamin

    HotAirAce & Brendan Light is energy, what started this Universe (Energy), Who is God Light(energy) and Who started the Universe. I rest My case.

    December 22, 2011 at 7:58 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      "HotAirAce & Brendan Light is energy" <==true proven science

      " what started this Universe (Energy)" <==true proven science

      " Who is God Light(energy) and Who started the Universe." <== unsubstantiated assertion

      I rest My case.

      December 22, 2011 at 8:10 am |
    • rick

      kenrick: how do you make the leap from the possibility of a creator to a being that judges sin?

      December 22, 2011 at 10:42 am |
  12. Mike Duffy

    Yes science is truly remarkable! Science has told us: the Earth is flat and the solar system (universe then) revolves around the Earth. What the moon is not made of cheese? What has been accepted in science to be fact is disproved over and over and over again. Don't get me wrong, I love science but it is not as reliable as you would like to believe. What we think we know will be corrected tomorrow!

    December 21, 2011 at 11:16 pm |
    • You don't know anything

      go away.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:22 pm |
    • tallulah13

      The beauty of science is that it is self-correcting. Once something has been proven to be untrue, it is no longer considered valid. Religion doesn't even make the effort.

      December 22, 2011 at 12:01 am |
    • BoldGeorge

      Tallulah....there is a God. That does not change. He does not change. But science as we know it, does. Wecan believe in God. That's it. Accept Him for who He is and what He has done through His Son Jesus Christ. We can't same the same about science. People swear to sciecne when science can't even swear to itself. You say science is the real deal. But which reality are we talking about? Science 100 years ago, a thousand years ago, a billion years ago? Which one?....they've all changed. So, what's the reality.

      However, God is One. Always was, always will be...and this we can safely accept. It just is, as science it just isn't. If science wasn't true 100 years ago as it is today, then it wasn't...true science. Get it?

      December 22, 2011 at 1:12 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      "Yes science is truly remarkable! Science has told us: the Earth is flat and the solar system (universe then) revolves around the Earth. What the moon is not made of cheese? What has been accepted in science to be fact is disproved over and over and over again. Don't get me wrong, I love science but it is not as reliable as you would like to believe. What we think we know will be corrected tomorrow!"

      Stupidity of the highest order. 'Science' never said any of those things. People just believed that the Earth was flat because that's how it appears from our perspective. A lesson is learned here that common sense can seem correct but still be wrong. Same for the universe circling around the Earth. Aristotle knew the Earth was round in 300BC but it wasn't fully accepted by most humans until the 1500's...1800 years where religion stifled the truth.
      When actual science using the scientific method is used the information is in line with reality. The accuracy is entirely dependent on the fidelity of the measurements. That's why Newton's Laws of motion are perfectly valid for calculating rocket trajectories to place things in orbit but GPS systems would fail completely if Einsteins general relativity weren't taken into account. Answers in science don't really change, they just become more accurate as measurements get more precise. The Bohr model of the atom is simplistic when compared to modern models but it is still essentially correct. Early calculations of the age of the universe from the Big Bang began around 12 billion years and has been refined(due to better measurements) to 13.7 billion. If it changes again it will be something like 13.735 billion. Not different...just more accurate. Your entire argument is dumb. Science is the only way to definitively describe reality in demonstrable, repeatable ways. Your unchanging biblical accounts of creation have already been proven to be false.

      December 22, 2011 at 7:06 am |
    • mickey1313

      the differance between science and faith, is that you can learn more science and adapt, but since faith is all based on unprovable asumptons, any change to the faith is 100% hypocracy. Which is why I love to hear the pope back track on 2000 years of church doctrin. (hedgeing his bets about alien life.)

      December 25, 2011 at 9:06 pm |
  13. CSX

    If America had that many true believers we would not be in the mess we are in.
    BHO would not be pres and babies would not be killed.

    Too many in name only and not His name.

    December 21, 2011 at 10:23 pm |
    • LinCA

      @CSX

      You said, "If America had that many true believers we would not be in the mess we are in.
      BHO would not be pres and babies would not be killed.
      "
      No, we'd be in a completely different mess. We'd still be hunting witches.

      December 21, 2011 at 10:29 pm |
    • MIkeH

      Um...LinCa...the 'witch hunts" had absolutely nothing to do with religion. Might want to try again.

      December 22, 2011 at 7:12 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      @MikeH: Really? I doubt you have the slightest clue!!!
      The following is in regards to the Salem Witch Trials and proves religion to be at the foreground:
      "In the small Salem Village as in the colony at large, all of life was governed by the precepts of the Church, which was Calvinist in the extreme. Music, dancing, celebration of holidays such as Christmas and Easter, were absolutely forbidden, as they supposedly had roots in Paganism. The only music allowed at all was the unaccompanied singing of hymns—the folk songs of the period glorified human love and nature, and were therefore against God. Toys and especially dolls were also forbidden, and considered a frivolous waste of time. The only schooling for children was in religious doctrine and the Bible, and all the villagers were expected to go to the meeting house for three-hour sermons every Wednesday and Sunday. Village life revolved around the meeting house, and those celebrations permitted, such as those celebrating the harvest, were centered there."

      December 22, 2011 at 7:19 am |
    • MIkeH

      TruthPrevails; Yes, i not only have "the slightest clue" but have studied that particular episode in history significantly. I'm not sure what Wikipedia article or grade 9 text book, you pulled your info from but you may want to look a little further than what ever jumps onto your computer screen first. "Calvinists" supposedly followed the teachings of John Calvin, none of the things you described fit into any of his teachings...simply because someone says it is God related does not make it so. Otherwise, I could simply tell everyone that "TruthPrevails" is a born again Christian and 'poof' it must be so because now its on the internet.

      December 22, 2011 at 7:29 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Exodus 22:18 "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"

      Game, set , match....you lose.

      December 22, 2011 at 7:35 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      What is Calvinism:
      It is a series of theological beliefs first promoted by John Calvin (1509-1564), one of the leaders of the Protestant reformation. They were affirmed by the Synod of Dordt (1618-1619 CE) as being the doctrine of salvation which is contained in the Bible. It laid the foundation for Reformed Theology.

      Same book, different way of interpreting it...this falls in to the 'no true Scotsman fallacy'.
      Ask any Atheist or non-believer who has actually studied this stuff and they won't disagree. Religion has caused more damage to society by choosing who fits and who doesn't, than anything else in this world.
      You'd be wrong (surprise surprise) about who I am or where I got my info. Unlike you, I at least have the comprehension skills to research stuff before talking!

      December 22, 2011 at 7:44 am |
    • John Richardson

      So wattaya got, Mike H? Gonna share some of this erudition on the period? Why did intensely religious people start murdering people they accused of being witches?

      December 22, 2011 at 7:57 am |
  14. BoldGeorge

    As I once commented before, many don't want to believe in God, or much less in creationism because of the 'claim' that there is no evidence to support it. Well, I wrote in this forum previously on the FACT that evolution has no evidence to support its theory at all...even less than what creationism has. There is porobably 100,001% more evidence of creationsim than there is of evolution (and I'm not being sarcastic). In our existence as we know it, everything gets created, either by divine intervention or from nature itself (which to me comes from divine intervention). Nothing is ever evolved. In other words, we can never witness evolution but we can witness and see things (living or non-living) being created/built. Yes, it is very easy to say that evolution is a billion year process. But creationism has it beat...we can see humans created in 9 months, a flower from one season to the next, animals only take months to create and pro-create, a construction building takes weeks, months or a couple of years to build.........but nothing builds or reproduces itself, and especially out of nothing at all. A baby boy will never just pop out of nowhere to come into existence. Better yet, you can have a man and a woman in a deserted island and if they do not copulate, there will never be any offsprings now matter how many thousand years they are permitted to live. It will just be the two of them. It takes someone or something, with effort, to create/build/make something else. Many have also scoffed at creationsim saying that much of it does not make sense. To me it makes perfect sense, and here's a little more common sense for you:

    A frog will never turn into a Bengal tiger or an orchid plant become a polar bear, nor will a dining table with seating for six ever become a snowy-owl in the very far future (shall I continue making no common sense???).

    The reason why creation was written about in the bible is because there was Someone there to witness it...the Creator Himself. But no one can ever write about the progress of evolution as it is happens as it happens, because some claim it takes millions and billions of years in process. How convenient. Some have hinted at the gravity analogy concerning evolution, that we cannot see gravity but it is happening all around us. Gravity is another part of creation because without, we cannot live, nothing can. So, if everything evolves like the evolutiionary theory implies, so does gravity. This means that gravity was different before as well. I wonder what could have lived eons ago with a different law of gravity. Did everything just around float and got by, or was everything just a crawling squashy mess stuck to the ground? Talk about common sense. GOD MAKES SENSE!

    December 21, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
    • you are an imbecile.

      you are an imbecile.

      December 21, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
    • no, i's you!

      no, it's you!

      ABSOLUTELY!

      December 21, 2011 at 9:28 pm |
    • Colin

      To get a gauge of just how inane the belief in Adam and Eve is in the 21st Century, here are some areas fundamentalists must ignore, any one of which proves beyond rational argument that, not surprisingly, the World did not start about 6,000 years ago at the behest of the Judeo-Christian god, with one man, one woman and a talking snake.

      First and most obviously is the fossil record. The fossil record is much, much more than just dinosaurs. Indeed, dinosaurs only get the press because of their size, but they make up less than 1% of the entire fossil record. Life had been evolving on Earth for over 3 thousand million years before dinosaurs evolved and has gone on evolving for 65 million years after the Chicxulub meteor wiped them out.

      The fossil record includes the Stromatolites, colonies of prokaryotic bacteria, that range in age going back to about 3 billion years, the Ediacara fossils from South Australia, widely regarded as among the earliest multi-celled organisms, the Cambrian species of the Burgess shale in Canada (circa – 450 million years) the giant scorpions of the Silurian Period, the giant, wingless insects of the Devonian period, the insects, amphibians, reptiles; fishes, clams, crustaceans of the Carboniferous Period, the many precursors to the dinosaurs, the dinosaurs themselves, the subsequent dominant mammals, including the saber tooth tiger, the mammoths of North America and Asia, the fossils of early man in Africa and the Neanderthals of Europe.

      The fossil record shows a consistent and worldwide evolution of life on Earth dating back to about 3,500,000,000 years ago. There are literally millions of fossils that have been recovered, of thousands of different species and they are all located where they would be in the geological record if life evolved slowly over billions of years. None of them can be explained by a 6,000 year old Earth and Noah’s flood. Were they all on the ark? What happened to them when it docked?

      A Tyrannosaurus Rex ate a lot of food – meat- which means its food would itself have to have been fed, like the food of every other carnivore on the ark. A bit of “back of the envelope” math quickly shows that “Noah’s Ark” would actually have to have been an armada of ships bigger than the D Day invasion force, manned by thousands and thousands of people – and this is without including the World’s 300,000 current species of plants, none of which could walk merrily in twos onto the Ark.

      Secondly, there are those little things we call oil, natural gas and other fossil fuels. Their mere existence is another, independent and fatal blow to the creationists. Speak to any geologist who works for Exxon Mobil, Shell or any of the thousands of mining, oil or natural gas related companies that make a living finding fossil fuels. They will tell you these fossil fuels take millions of years to develop from the remains of large forests (in the case of coal) or tiny marine creatures (in the case of oil). That’s why they are called fossil fuels. Have a close look at coal, you can often see the fossilized leaves in it. The geologists know exactly what rocks to look for fossil fuels in, because they know how to date the rocks to millions of years ago. Creationists have no credible explanation for this (nor for why most of it was “given to the Muslims”).

      Thirdly, most of astronomy and cosmology would be wrong if the creationists were right. In short, as Einstein showed, light travels at a set speed. Space is so large that light from distant stars takes many years to reach the Earth. In some cases, this is millions or billions of years. The fact that we can see light from such far away stars means it began its journey billions of years ago. The Universe must be billions of years old. We can currently see galaxies whose light left home 13.7 billion years ago. Indeed, on a clear night, one can see many stars more than 6,000 light years away with the naked eye, shining down like tiny silent witnesses against the nonsense of creationism.

      Fourthly, we have not just carbon dating, but also all other methods used by scientists to date wood, rocks, fossils, and other artifacts. These comprehensively disprove the Bible’s claims. They include uranium-lead dating, potassium-argon dating as well as other non-radioactive methods such as pollen dating, dendrochronology and ice core dating. In order for any particular rock, fossil or other artifact to be aged, generally two or more samples are dated independently by two or more laboratories in order to ensure an accurate result. If results were random, as creationists claim, the two independent results would rarely agree. They generally do. They regularly reveal ages much older than Genesis. Indeed, the Earth is about 750,000 times older than the Bible claims.

      Fifthly, the relatively new field of DNA mapping not only convicts criminals, it shows in undeniable, full detail how we differ from other life forms on the planet. For example, about 98.4% of human DNA is identical to that of chimpanzees, about 97% of human DNA is identical to that of gorillas, and slightly less again of human DNA is identical to the DNA of monkeys. This gradual divergence in DNA can only be rationally explained by the two species diverging from a common ancestor, and coincides perfectly with the fossil record. Indeed, scientists can use the percentage of DNA that two animal share (such as humans and bears, or domestic dogs and wolves) to get an idea of how long ago the last common ancestor of both species lived. It perfectly corroborates the fossil record and is completely independently developed. It acts as yet another fatal blow to the “talking snake” theory.

      Sixthly, the entire field of historical linguistics would have to be rewritten to accommodate the Bible. This discipline studies how languages develop and diverge over time. For example, Spanish and Italian are very similar and have a recent common “ancestor” language, Latin, as most people know. However, Russian is quite different and therefore either did not share a common root, or branched off much earlier in time. No respected linguist anywhere in the World traces languages back to the Tower of Babel, the creationists’ explanation for different languages. Indeed, American Indians, Australian Aboriginals, “true” Indians, Chinese, Mongols, Ja.panese, Sub-Saharan Africans and the Celts and other tribes of ancient Europe were speaking thousands of different languages thousands of years before the date creationist say the Tower of Babel occurred – and even well before the date they claim for the Garden of Eden.

      Seventhly, lactose intolerance is also a clear vestige of human evolution. Most mammals only consume milk as infants. After infancy, they no longer produce the enzyme “lactase” that digests the lactose in milk and so become lactose intolerant. Humans are an exception and can drink milk as adults – but not all humans – some humans remain lactose intolerant. So which humans are no longer lactose intolerant? The answer is those who evolved over the past few thousand years raising cows. They evolved slightly to keep producing lactase as adults so as to allow the consumption of milk as adults. This includes most Europeans and some Africans, notably the Tutsi of Rwanda. On the other hand, most Chinese, native Americans and Aboriginal Australians, whose ancestors did not raise cattle, remain lactose intolerant.

      I could go on and elaborate on a number of other disciplines or facts that creationists have to pretend into oblivion to retain their faith, including the Ice Ages, cavemen and early hominids, much of microbiology, paleontology and archeology, continental drift and plate tectonics, even large parts of medical research (medical research on monkeys and mice only works because they share a common ancestor with us and therefore our fundamental cell biology and basic body architecture is identical to theirs).

      In short, and not surprisingly, the World’s most gifted evolutionary biologists, astronomers, cosmologists, geologists, archeologists, paleontologists, historians, modern medical researchers and linguists (and about 2,000 years of accu.mulated knowledge) are right and a handful of Iron Age Middle Eastern goat herders were wrong.

      December 21, 2011 at 9:28 pm |
    • Q

      @Colin – Nice post!

      @BoldGeorge – "shall I continue making no common sense???" You've done a fine job already, however, your "common sense" is actually a declaration of scientific ignorance. Once, it was "common sense" that "bad air" (mal aria) made people sick. The idea that tiny animals too small to be seen actually caused the associated disease was silly. Similarly, it was "common sense" that the "influence" (influenza) of the stars caused disease. The idea that non-living things could invade, take over human cells and cause disease was quite silly (even through the early part of the 20th century). If science teaches us anything, it's that what makes "sense" is not a trustworthy basis for understanding how the natural world works.

      December 21, 2011 at 9:58 pm |
    • BoldGeorge

      Q...you basically almost repeated exactly what I was trying to say in my comment. You wrote: If science teaches us anything, it's that what makes "sense" is not a trustworthy basis for understanding how the natural world works. That is why the bible quotes in Proverbs 3:5 – Trust in the LORD with all your heart and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your paths straight. Because we have not been adhering to this, we have become a twisted world.

      You said (perhaps unwittingly) in one sentence what I said in 2 paragraphs. Way to go. I will further add this, when we cannot even begin to comprehend our existence and we wrongly believe that nothingness and chaos came into existence and came to be organized and full of natural laws, and having just discovered DNA (when it has already existed from our beginning) and how DNA is full of specific information within each individual species on this earth and that this bilogical information is specific to each species...we won't ever come even close to delighting in our own existence. That is why the world and humanity is the way it is...chaos.

      Please give God a chance, just like He is giving you a chance each day you breathe.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:14 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      @Colin Im laughing at you, you just got your A Z Z toasted and served on a dirty platter nothing you have said has made any sense.Thank you BoldGeorge for telling this miscarriage who was forgotten to be flushed down the toilet perhaps his mother was so hyped on herion maybe she thought she was S H Y T T I NG

      December 21, 2011 at 11:14 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      @YepYep6598

      You can't be serious! BoldGeorge only offered up intelligent design / creationist crap that demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of evolution, followed by the assumption that there must be a god, when in fact there is no verifiable, independent, factual, objective evidence of any god ever existing. Colin then replied with multiple examples of how science can much better explain the natural world than The Babble, with no god needed or wanted. BoldGeorge then went on to demonstrate that he completely misunderstood Q's note about common sense and/or intentionally twisted it to support more crap from The Babble. I strongly suggest you re-read the above posts with a view to actually comprehending what was written.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:27 pm |
    • Bizarre

      BoldGeorge,

      "God" has every chance in the world. All 'he' has to do is prove that 'he' exists. 'He' knows exactly where I am and what would convince me. 'He' can't? 'He' won't? It seems as if in your stories that 'he' "hardened pharaoh's heart", appeared in a flash to Saul of Tarsus, and to doubting Thomas and maybe a few others. What am I? Chopped liver?

      December 21, 2011 at 11:33 pm |
    • Chad

      @Colin
      Your entire list pertains ONLY to those Christians who believe in a young earth (~6000 years old).

      What we know of the origin of the universe, the geological facts and the fossil record correspond exactly with a proper exegesis of Genesis.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:37 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      @HotAirAce the name is befitting for you what you are saying is hot air and it stinks. Your common sense which is obvious you dont have any NOTHING FROM NOTHING LEAVES NOTHING. Maybe you came from a monkeyman or a fish that developed into a human and that my friend sounds like you are on a acid trip of some sort.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:49 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      @Bizarre
      God dont have to prove s h y t to you, as a matter of fact you aint s h y t, but you will get a chance at judgement.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:53 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      @HotAirAce you atheist especially you, are pretty pathetic you what we call fools. You do too many drugs I could arrange for you to go to rehab just say it I NEED HELP

      December 21, 2011 at 11:58 pm |
    • BoldGeorge

      Bizarre (nice moiker)...let's say for a second (and only for one itsy bitsy second) you muster up some faith and believe the story of Jesus...that He came into this world to save us, performed many miracles, gave sight to a blind man, made a cripple walk, raised some from the dead, left a stamp on human faith, giving hope to man (and woman) of an eternal bliss if we just trust Him...let's say you somewhat believe a bit of this......how many times must he do all this for you to believe???

      He did it once, it was recorded/written about, yet many still have said and continue to say, "Nope, I don't buy it." God can show Himself to you every minute of your existence, you would choose not to believe. Here are some verses that kind of explain better what I'm talking about:

      Psalm 78:32 – In spite of all this they still sinned and did not believe in His wonderful works.
      John 20:29 – Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you really believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.”
      Romans 3:3 – What then? If some did not believe, their unbelief will not nullify the faithfulness of God, will it?
      John 9:18 – The Jews didn't believe it, didn't believe the man was blind to begin with. So they called the parents of the man now bright-eyed with sight. They asked them, "Is this your son, the one you say was born blind? So how is it that he now sees?"
      John 11:40 – Jesus *said to her, “ Did I not say to you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?”

      "Let me just do what I feel is best for me." ...or better yet, "If I have to believe all this, and in Him, that means I have to be accountable to Him." Now there's a word we don't like..."accountability".

      December 22, 2011 at 12:01 am |
    • Bizarre

      BoldGeorge,

      So your 'faith' is more important than truth? There is not a shred of verified evidence for your Bible stories. I do not believe that they are true. Accountability? I would be fooling myself (and everyone else) if I said that I believed those tales. Shall I pretend?

      December 22, 2011 at 12:11 am |
    • @BraindeadGeorge

      Yeah...uh...got any proof other than ludicrous tales from an ancient book written by primitive fanatics?
      No?
      That's what I thought.

      December 22, 2011 at 12:12 am |
    • BoldGeorge

      Bizarre....
      It all comes down to choosing. In other words, you've read about evolution and how something just popped into existence, how tyranosaurus rex turned into a chicken, or how slime turned into ape then man. There's also the Bible that talks about these "stories" about a flood, about a tower incident where languages came from, about a burning bush, about a man and a nation behind him being at the right place at the right time only to escape from a raging army through the middle of a sea without even wetting their feet...and many many other miracles.

      However, you have not witnessed a dinosaur turn into a chicken, you have not witnessed biological slime turn into anything, much less into an ape then into a human (neither have I), and you haven't even witnessed something pop up right before your eyes from out of nowhere (unless you've been to a local magic show)....and of course, you have neither witnessed a great global flood, nor witnessed anyone being shoved into a fiery furnace for hours and coming out unscathed, or witnessed a scourging of an innocent man, tortured, nailed to and hung on a cross and left to die, then dying and coming back to life...neither have I witnessed any of this. We've only READ ABOUT ALL THIS. Yet we both chose to believe in one of these versions of life and all things; you chose to believe the first, I chose to believe the latter.

      This I can tell you, I have, however experienced my sinful and lost life turn into hope and joy (though I do have my share of struggles like everyone else), I have witnessed others at close range, coming out of severe depression, drugs, even a life of crime and turning there life around, turning to hope, to Salvation, to God, to Christ and all with a newness of life, a renewed heart, mind and spirit and a fascinating dedication to doing what's right in the eyes of God (though they still have their share of struggles like everyone else). It's almost unbelieveable to talk to these people and have them tell you how they were living in the past. You wouldn't believe it. I have to warn you though that not everyone that says 'Lord, Lord' is a true Christian. Having said all this, I am sure you cannot say the same about anyone having this type of faith and hope from evolution, the theory that nothing matters in the end, because nothing started it all. I'm not saying that there aren't any decent, well-mannered good citizens out there that don't believe in God and creationsim. There are and I personally know many of them. The difference is HOPE. They live a decent life with a hopeless future and outcome. And this fairy-tale you say I'm living in, has changed lives and has given some a new reason to live...in other words, the word of God has changed many lives throughout human history...and I'm not referring to any radicals or extremists, the way Christianity is portrayed nowadays (false Chrsitianity of course).

      Again, give God a chance in your heart and in your life. He is giving you one (or two–who knows?).

      December 22, 2011 at 12:47 am |
    • John Richardson

      OLd earth creationists are only slightly less moronic than young earth creationists. People like Chad, BoldGeorge and Yepyep offer up only arguments from ignorance. What's reprehensible is that that ignorance is easily cured, if you bother to read any of the many, many lucidly written books and articles that biologists like Stephen Jay Gould, Niles Eldredge, Jared Diamond and others have written. But Christian apologists are afraid to be "taken in", ie rationally convinced of how erroneous their beliefs are. So the only words by evolutionary biologists they read are small snippets taken out of context quoted in creationist works.

      Just one laughable example of how the mind of the creationist works, or doesn't work: In prior discussion, it became clear that Chad as-sumed that because evolutionary biologists who adopt the punctuated-equilibrium model say that speciation typically takes 10,000 to 100,000 years to occur, that that means that something like the human eye took only 10,000 to 100,000 years to evolve! Ya gotta be dumber than sludge not to understand that modern species became the way they are through VAST NUMBERS of speciation events, giving the modern eye at least 10s of millions of years in which to evolve. I mean, you are missing the almost the WHOLE story if you don't understand phylogenetic trends. Each speciation event produces a new species that is significantly, but not wildly different from the pre-existing species from which it budded off due to geographic isolation. But as many, many of these events take place and differences accu-mulate, major evolutionary trends take place creating creatures very, very different from their distant ancestors.

      December 22, 2011 at 7:47 am |
    • fred

      John Richardson
      How do you know that you are not the one missing the story? Not sure how many times you have read the Bible or with kind of a heart /preset bias/neurobiochemical or neurological anomalies however it is clear you do not understand or hear the truth expressed in the Divine Word.
      Your endless books of “knowledge” can be well understood and most Christians get it. All that knowledge to date does not change anything in the Bible; the Bible still stands as the only complete explanation of God and His plan to redeem a chosen people for Himself. Bottom line is that you can unwrap the DNA all you want in a never ending search only to find the rabbit hole goes a little deeper. Christians come out of that rabbit hole on a regular basis for a breath of life that life which the Bible speaks of, living waters where you thirst no more it is called complete freedom from the things of this world.
      Much of what Colin rants about (6,000 year creation etc) is not from the Bible. These are mans thoughts / interpretations from the truth of God. Certainly those thoughts of man change over time just as you see man and civilization evolve in the historic part of the Bible. You also see the revelation of God become deeper from just smoke, fire and animal sacrifice to Jesus personal reflection of the Glory of God. Just as you think differently from Colin so too Christians differ in thought. The majority today do not look at some fixed 6,000 time line as it is not so written. Today few find the earth to be flat and low and behold notice the Bible does not say the earth was flat with the exception of language that was historical in content reflecting conversation between peoples 4,000 years ago who did not know otherwise.
      Science and Faith explain different areas of our existence and complement each other with both being necessary. The simple wonder of why humans do such crazy things with their lives or accomplish greatness is observed scientifically and spiritually. They are not in conflict.

      December 22, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • Chad

      @John Richardson "OLd earth creationists are only slightly less moronic than young earth creationists. People like Chad, BoldGeorge and Yepyep offer up only arguments from ignorance. What's reprehensible is that that ignorance is easily cured, if you bother to read any of the many, many lucidly written books and articles that biologists like Stephen Jay Gould, Niles Eldredge, Jared Diamond and others have written. But Christian apologists are afraid to be "taken in", ie rationally convinced of how erroneous their beliefs are. "

      =>OK John, I'll take you up on that. You pick a book for me to read, I pick a book for you to read. We come back in 30 days with book reports.

      Deal?

      December 22, 2011 at 8:44 pm |
    • Chad

      @John Richardson "Just one laughable example of how the mind of the creationist works, or doesn't work: In prior discussion, it became clear that Chad as-sumed that because evolutionary biologists who adopt the punctuated-equilibrium model say that speciation typically takes 10,000 to 100,000 years to occur, that that means that something like the human eye took only 10,000 to 100,000 years to evolve! Ya gotta be dumber than sludge not to understand that modern species became the way they are through VAST NUMBERS of speciation events, giving the modern eye at least 10s of millions of years in which to evolve. I mean, you are missing the almost the WHOLE story if you don't understand phylogenetic trends. Each speciation event produces a new species that is significantly, but not wildly different from the pre-existing species from which it budded off due to geographic isolation. But as many, many of these events take place and differences accu-mulate, major evolutionary trends take place creating creatures very, very different from their distant ancestors"

      => so. is the eye evolved over many many species, then I"m sure you will have absolutely no problem providing the fossil record demonstrating this evolution.

      With you John, I have learned the magic words to end every conversation. "Examples please"

      And, dont forget, do we have a deal on the dual book reports?

      December 22, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      @YepYep6598

      'HotAirAce' is related to an entirely different area of interes. I have considered changing it many times because I know that it would attract silly comments, but I decided to continue to use it 'cause if anyone fixates on it, it's a clear indications that they don't have anything of substance to say. You are dumber than captain america 'cause I don't think he has mentioned it, but then I don't read all the trash he writes. But, thanks for falling into the trap...

      December 22, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
    • Roo

      So you talk about a book of ancient literature full of miracles you are willing to believe, yet somehow you think it impossible for evolution to occur-a process who's mechanic-ism we now understand, especially with the field of molecular biology, which require no miracle to function?

      "However, you have not witnessed a dinosaur turn into a chicken, you have not witnessed biological slime turn into anything, much less into an ape then into a human (neither have I),"- since human lives do not last for millions or billions of years, it is not a process you can observe. You can only see the outcome of this process. You can, however, observe it in organisms with fast reproduction cycles like bacteria, certain insects, and certain types of plants.

      December 24, 2011 at 1:27 am |
    • mickey1313

      you are a f-ing fool. Read something real not your bible. "Greatest show on earth" R. Dawkins has all the "proof" you need. The fact that stupid thiests are still in the 21st century grasping at straws is sad. Just like S. Aribia where they killed someone this week for witchcraft. Really? Thiests all need to die so the smart folks can live well.

      December 25, 2011 at 9:12 pm |
    • mickey1313

      yupyup, you are an uneducated fool. All thiests are f-ing pathetic. It is gods job to prove himself, not our job to prove he is not real. And any being that would alow his followers to kill inocents IS NOT A GOD WORTH WORSHIP. He is a god of wickedness and sin and should be banished from our thoughts.

      December 25, 2011 at 9:17 pm |
  15. Colin

    AIDS, polio, Christianity, one day we'll have all plagues under control.

    December 21, 2011 at 7:02 pm |
    • fred

      Looks like someone is out Colin ize the web today. It would much easier to simply set up a Colin E of atheists where you worship Mammon openly without fear of christians and disease

      December 21, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
    • if you thought that was witty, you have down syndrome.

      if you thought that was witty, you have down syndrome.

      December 21, 2011 at 7:26 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      Maybe you can understand this Colin, it's called Bake Me Cake: You and I are sitting at a table and I tell you to bake me a cake without the ingredients, utensils, or a stove. And your answer would probably be I cant without the ingredients, utensils, or a stove. From that we can say nothing from nothing leaves nothing. Now, use common sense here Colin, if I gave you all the things you need to make that cake, you could make it right, your answer would be yes. You put all the ingredients together to prepare the cake to be baked. You put it in the stove, you fire up the oven(The Big Bang) and it will take time for that cake to bake . You pull it out of the stove when it is finished, let it cool down, and put icing on it. In our conclusion we can say that cake was made by something with intelligence. Remember nothing from nothing leaves nothing. The cake did not have to evolve it didnt start from a cupcake to a cake.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:30 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      When are believers going to learn that evolution is not about inanimate objects?

      December 21, 2011 at 11:32 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      @HotAirAce
      When are non-believers going to stop thinking things , people, or whatever appears out of thin air there is no magic.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:39 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Who said anything about anything appearing our of thin air? I think that would be the believer position – that supernatural beings sprung up out of nowhere, performed a bit of magic, and voila there's the earth and everything on it.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:45 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      @HotAirAce you pathetic pu**y go find a website for atheists this is for believers BIOOOTCH

      December 22, 2011 at 12:02 am |
    • brendan

      whats the matter yepyep dont like being wrong becauseif we go back to what you said about the cake who made this so call cake if nothing comes out of thin air how did god make the universe it would of had to of appered ut of thin air unless some greater than god made it. and yep yep you are giving all the other cristians a bad name with your name calling and rude words

      December 22, 2011 at 1:27 am |
    • YepYep6598

      MOM! MEATLOAF!

      December 22, 2011 at 1:46 am |
    • HellBent

      "When are non-believers going to stop thinking things , people, or whatever appears out of thin air there is no magic."

      When it stops happening. Google 'virtual particles'

      And according to the bible, magic does exist. But you'd actually have to read it to know that.

      December 22, 2011 at 1:56 am |
    • mickey1313

      fred as a staunch athiest, I can say I do not fear any thiest, for they are all stupid weak willed cowards. And there only recourse is terrorism. Thiests are pathetic and sad.

      December 25, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
  16. jed

    A self serving little article. Christians make up about a third of the worlds believers, probably representing under 20% if you count the non-believers. The article makes it sound like everybody’s a Christian. Hardly. I’m always amused by how badly Christians feel the need to assemble their flock, finding assurance in the numbers around them.

    December 21, 2011 at 3:58 pm |
    • staTHEISTICS

      @Jed

      You said:

      "Christians make up about a third of the worlds believers, probably representing under 20% if you count the non-believers."

      Are you sure with that??? OR, that was nothing but just a TYPICAL atheistic LIE(S).

      December 21, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
    • duj

      Jed

      You had it right, atheists don't count on surveys. Their number is quite immaterial to get counted.

      December 21, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
    • beg

      @Jed

      That was a classic example of distorting facts just to further own agenda.

      December 21, 2011 at 9:24 pm |
    • Roo

      About 33% of the world population is christian, so it isn't a large percentage of the world. But this is old news. People think christianity suddenly became the worlds largest religion overnight. Its held its percentage for quite sometime. There haven't been any major fluctuations either way.

      December 24, 2011 at 1:41 am |
    • mickey1313

      dj, um 40% of americans are believer in one of the prominate world religons, that means that 60% are not, so I think the do nots way out-weigh the thiests.

      December 25, 2011 at 9:21 pm |
  17. lmpeters

    Did anyone else think of South Park here?

    "WHAT?! Why are we all in He11?" Reply: "Yeah, it turns out the right answer was Mormonism. Mormons." Collective groan.

    December 21, 2011 at 2:16 pm |
  18. Kenrick Benjamin

    HOTAIRACE- I asked that you not be hasty in your reply but from what you have stated I see you are , The LIGHT shines ever so brightly but yet you cannot comprehend. All I will say is think of Why there is a Belief Blog. Good luck.

    December 21, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      I gave it all the time it deserved. How about you stop speaking in tongues and answer my direct questions?

      December 21, 2011 at 6:17 pm |
    • brendan

      if god is light why did he wait 4 days to make himself should it not of been evedent imidetly that he was hear,
      oh and read genesis again god isnt light at all (yes ive studied the bible and parts of the quarn and torah there is no point in not beleaving in something you havnt studied)

      Genesis 1:14-19
      14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

      15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

      16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

      17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

      18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

      19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

      (yes ive studied the bible and parts of the quarn and torah, i wouldnt say i dont like something i havent tried)

      December 21, 2011 at 7:22 pm |
  19. Colin

    I don’t know why believers always insist that atheists have no moral compass or live meaningless lives. Every atheist I know has a moral outlook indistinguishable to that of a liberal Christian or Jew (or Buddhist or Hindu, for that matter). Simply because we reject the supernatural elements of a belief system does not mean we reject the morality that particular faith subscribes to.

    To the extent we reject religious morality, it is where it is mean spirited or outdated, such as how most religions treat gays. In fact, a number of atheists have compiled a “10 Commandments” list for atheists. They are easy to find, but my favorite for sheer simplicity of expression and saying a lot by saying little, is that of Zambian born Anthony Grayling:

    1. Love well
    2. Seek the good in all things
    3. Harm no others
    4. Think for yourself
    5. Take responsibility
    6. Respect nature
    7. Do your utmost
    8. Be informed
    9. Be kind
    10. Be courageous

    As to not living fulfilling lives, I actually suspect the opposite is true. I think that hard core believers are often motivated by a deep dissatisfaction in life and driven to hope for a better lot in the “next life”. I personally love the clear thinking, superst.ition free life as an atheist. I get a deep satisfaction out of science and knowledge and I feel no need to try and add artificial sweetener to this life.

    December 21, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • lmpeters

      Love this! Thanks for posting!

      December 21, 2011 at 2:16 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      Colin no one cares about atheist because you all dont count and no one gives a damn about you.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:34 pm |
    • YepYep6598

      @Colin you dont have a moral compass BURN IN HELL YOU FU K K ING D E MON

      December 22, 2011 at 12:04 am |
    • YepYep6598

      1. Love well THIS STUPID SHYT
      2. Seek the good in all things
      3. Harm no others
      4. Think for yourself
      5. Take responsibility
      6. Respect nature
      7. Do your utmost
      8. Be informed
      9. Be kind
      10. Be courageous

      December 22, 2011 at 12:07 am |
    • YepYep6598

      @Colin tell me your were on drugs when you came up with this list, BUT please dont say you were not on drugs.

      December 22, 2011 at 12:09 am |
    • tallulah13

      Nice list, Colin. Personally, I prefer the one commandment: Treat others as you would be treated.

      December 22, 2011 at 1:44 am |
    • Tom

      Well said...the christian knucklewalkers here aren't liking the truth...but faith doesn't react well to truth...it dissipates in the mere presence of facts... And to answer a previous query, people claiming to reside under he general umbrella of 'Christianity" account for about 30-33% of the world's population..clearly the largest faction but by no means even a simple majority (51%)...the 3rd largest faction? Unaffiliated...which includes Atheists...and this group is clearly the fastest growing of all of the factions in the continuum of worldviews. What's so delicious about the anger in these posts is that inside that 30% sits about 2000 sects that all know each 'other ' sect isn't doing it right and they can't be trusted... Catholics know protestants are going to hell and vice versa... Don't even get started about the Mormons knowing that all other so called Christians are all going to hell as well... Believers are to be laughed at...nothing more.

      December 22, 2011 at 4:44 am |
    • mickey1313

      to yepyep's vile hate-filled word, I believe that mathiew said judge not least ye be judged and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. you hypocritial POS. I love hearing the hate spewed from those who are aledged christians. If your god is real, for being the spiteful way you are (proclaiming people to hellfire) your god will burn you in the fires of pergatory. But it is all myth anyway so you will be worm food just like me when you die.

      December 25, 2011 at 9:26 pm |
  20. Ungodly Discipline

    @gman
    It is not name calling when it is true. You are a troll making up nonsense about God that neither has scientific merit nor religious merit. That makes you a liar. Fact. I am sorry I engaged you in dialogue. I did not know what kind of person you were. It is a shame because you seem fairly intelligent otherwise. However, you definitely have passive aggressive tendencies. (I do too, so I can recognize the condition fairly easily).

    December 21, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
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