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Two Muslim religious leaders sue airlines for discrimination
December 20th, 2011
03:56 AM ET

Two Muslim religious leaders sue airlines for discrimination

By Jim Barnett, CNN

Washington (CNN) – Two Islamic religious leaders from Tennessee filed a lawsuit against two airlines Monday, claiming they were discriminated against and not allowed to fly on a plane in May because of the way they looked.

Masudur Rahman and Mohamed Zaghloul, both imams, request a jury trial in the suit, filed in federal court against Delta Air Lines and Atlantic Southeast Airlines.

In the suit, the two said they arrived at the Memphis, Tennesseee, International Airport on May 6, wearing traditional Muslim attire, including religious garb and headgear. The two were headed from Memphis to Charlotte, North Carolina, to attend a conference on anti-Muslim bigotry.

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  1. Just Saying

    Ah you stupid men, who create religions to try to make sense of things you do not understand

    January 11, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
  2. Mikej

    Jesus Christ is the son of God and God himself. Before Abraham was "I am". Get used to it Christians win. Not a prophet but God himself.

    December 22, 2011 at 10:45 pm |
  3. LIMRA

    Wel they have been attacking other countries wer ppl are wearing similar traditional Muslim attire. So these guys are always in fear of Counter attack. So this reaction is obvious,,,,

    December 21, 2011 at 8:24 am |
  4. Majid

    In this day and age, I have seen so much hatred between man and man. The JEWS and ARABS are blood related. yet they see one another face to face but the shaytaan overcomes their hearts and minds. We are all the children of Adam and Hawwa, yet we act like children and forget we all return to Allah at the end, believe it or not, your freewill!!!!.

    December 20, 2011 at 6:19 pm |
    • Checkmate

      In this day and age I find it hard to believe people still believe the World id flat.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:34 am |
  5. dont matter

    i would do the same thing, muslims are playing that card now days. not saying these 2 were going to do anything, but they can attack all they want and and if we say something about it we are automaticcaly "intolerant"........same with obama if i disagree with his policys then they say im automatticly racist.

    December 20, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
    • Checkmate

      Absolutely

      December 21, 2011 at 5:32 am |
  6. Old Man Winter

    These two idiots should have their case thrown out of court. They were not discriminated against because of their religion but on how they were dressed and giving nasty looks to other passengers. Had they been wearing suits or dressed as people on vacation, they would have been ignored until they started wailing and making a disturbance – in which case they'd be tossed off the plane for disturbing the other passengers – just like what happened here.
    It had nothing to do with their religion and everything to do with them disturbing the other passengers.
    Next case!

    December 20, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      No other passengers were disturbed:

      "The Delta manager made an announcement in the cabin of the plane stating if any passengers felt apprehensive about either of the men then they could get on another plane and receive a voucher, the lawsuit stated. "Except for the pilot, however, no one else on that plane indicated that they were uncomfortable with either plaintiff being on the flight," the complaint said."

      December 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm |
    • ehhehuhuhwaitwhat

      Then they disturbed the pilot. He is also a passenger, is he not? As captain of the airplane he should be allowed to refuse transportation to anyone he wants or he can refuse to fly. Maybe he'd like a few days vacation so he could relax and maybe not be so easily disturbed himself. This isn't the high seas, and he doesn't have the authority of a sea captain perhaps.
      There needs to come a point where pilot have authority over the passengers or else why give them control of the vehicles?
      Maybe the pilot violated his contract and the company can give him the boot. Liability is very closely entwined with authority, but who wants accountability if it costs money? Let's all pass the buck. Like the two Muslims. They refuse to acknowledge the real liability of their religion in the realm of modern transportation security and would like nothing more than to make trouble and cheat the non-Muslim airline for the extra laughs. They are religious leaders of a religion that commands all followers to kill non-believers. Who would trust such a person? And why should anyone have to give them a ride?
      A private company has the right to refuse service to anyone. It's like giving a ride to a modern-day Nazi. A Nazi could make the same arguments and say they were being discriminated against based on their religion and their stylish uniforms.
      And it would be true if there weren't a real justification for refusing service.
      Let these Muslims hire other Muslims to transport their foolish selves. Would a bunch of Rabbis expect the same from a Muslim airline? Probably. And they might try to sue but then they would probably be smart enough not to bother with a Muslim airline. Stopping the plane in mid-air for the daily prayer is just the sort of thing Muslims might do. Religion at its finest.

      December 20, 2011 at 7:05 pm |
    • Checkmate

      I couldn't help notice how confrontational they are.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:37 am |
    • HotAirAce

      I assume by "they" that you are referring to the claimants, the gentlemen that were thrown off the plane because of their looks. If yes, please explain how they were confrontational – I don't see anything in the story to support that allegation. Otherwise, please explain who you were referring to.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:49 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Checkmate, I apologize if I missed any sarcasm.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:50 am |
  7. WOT

    At least they did not let them board the plane and through them off over the ocean like they did a Black women in days gone by!

    December 20, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
    • Checkmate

      I did not know they had black female Imams but it sounds terrible if they did.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:39 am |
  8. HotAirAce

    Taking the story at face value, I think the airline(s) did all they could to follow the law. I hope the "captain" (maybe it was captain america?) gets fired and sued into extreme poverty. I tried to find out what, if any action, the airlines have taken against the captain but could not find anything.

    December 20, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • Keith

      Ace, No one cares what a Canadian has to say about an American situation. Funny how the qu eers always take the side of islam. Apparently you didn't see the video below. That sheik does not appear to care for the h0m0's too much. I get the feeling he'd like to put a rope around your neck. Why do you always rush to defend them? Mr. Spock would think that illogical.

      December 20, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      The video is in no way related to this article. I support treating all people equally. I hate all religions equally. If the story as presented is true, I support the claimants. Supporting the claimants, or not, is in no way a statement about their religious beliefs. What is with your fascination with homosexuality? I'm not gay but so what if I was? I think you are just trying to stir up hatred of gays and muslims or anyone else that disagrees with you. Another fantastic display of christianity – NOT!

      December 20, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
    • Mildred the Mouth

      And I bet Keithy tells himself he is a Christian. What a joke.
      James 1:26
      If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless.
      I'm not one to quote babble verses, but I could not stop myself.

      December 20, 2011 at 8:54 pm |
  9. GSA

    I don't remember any of the terrorists that boarded planes wearing what these guys wore. Don't blame the good ppl of Memphis, there is a direct correlation between being less educated (all types of education, street, book, etc.) and being ignorant and Memphis along with most of the US have a horrible education system.

    December 20, 2011 at 11:28 am |
    • Checkmate

      A horrible education is better than calling oneself a scholar from the desert.

      December 21, 2011 at 6:34 am |
    • Amir

      These muslims always want something for their terriorism activities. If the underwear bomber can hide explosives in his underwear what can we expect from these imams, these imams can hide and kind of ammunition under their dresses. muslims are always looking for some exuse so that they can achieve their terriorism activities.

      December 24, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
  10. Keith

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU9CauJP4Pg&w=640&h=360]

    December 20, 2011 at 9:14 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      The Dome of the Rock is the most unholy building, which has ever been erected on earth.

      I could imagine, when Christ returns on Mount Olivet, which is opposite of the Temple Mount, where the Dome of the Rock is located, he will first exterminate that building of abomination with a first powerful strike.

      December 20, 2011 at 9:47 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      INSCRIPTIONS ON THE INNER OCTAGONAL ARCADE of the Dome of the Rock

      The capitals designate the cardinal directions of the octagonal arcade.

      S (South) In the name of God, the Merciful the Compassionate. There is no god but God. He is One. He has
      no associate. Unto Him belongeth sovereignity and unto Him belongeth praise. He quickeneth and He giveth death; and He has Power over all things. Muhammad is the servant of God and His Messenger.

      SE Lo! God and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! Ask blessings on him and salute him with a worthy salutation. The blessing of God be on him and peace be on him, and may God have mercy. O People of the Book! Do not exaggerate in your religion

      E nor utter aught concerning God save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His Word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and say not 'Three' – Cease! (it is)

      NE better for you! – God is only One God. Far be it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And God is sufficient as Defender. The Messiah will never scorn to be a

      N servant unto God, nor will the favoured angels. Whoso scorneth His service and is proud, all such will He assemble unto Him. Oh God, bless Your Messenger and Your servant Jesus

      NW son of Mary. Peace be on him the day he was born, and the day he dies, and the day he shall be raised alive! Such was Jesus, son of Mary, (this is) a statement of the truth concerning which they doubt. It befitteth not (the Majesty of) God that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him!

      W When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. Lo! God is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path. God (Himself) is witness that there is no God save Him. And the angels and the men of learning (too are witness). Maintaining His creation in justice, there is no God save Him,

      SW the Almighty, the Wise. Lo! religion with God (is) Islam. Those who (formerly) received the Book differed only after knowledge came unto them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso disbelieveth the revelations of God (will find that) lo! God is swift at reckoning!

      Conclusion: The Islam reduces Jesus to a mere human being.

      The Christian truth: Jesus was man and God at the same time. He had and has a divine and a human nature, perfectly united, but not mixed.

      Islam is the anti-faith!

      December 20, 2011 at 10:20 am |
    • Belieber

      I can't wait to see Jesus' ray-gun/blaster. Boy is that gonna be neato. Kaboom !

      December 20, 2011 at 11:53 am |
    • Reality

      JC's family and friends had it right 2000 years ago ( Mark 3: 21 "And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself."

      Said passage is one of the few judged to be authentic by most contemporary NT scholars. e.g. See Professor Ludemann's conclusion in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 24 and p. 694

      Actually, Jesus was a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.

      Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Most contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospel being mostly fiction.

      Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European/Utah white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!

      December 20, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • Louisa Ferre

      all you proved is Jerusalem belongs to the Arab Pagans so give the city back to Alilat get the fu-ck out you stole it from us yes I say us because all “Pagan” religions are united it belong to you for 3,000 years, well it belonged to us for over 10,000 so get out both of you get out give the city back to Ashera and Alilat because they knew how to get along you don’t and you pray to the same god. Get out of our city. We have to raze it just to make it holly again because you defiled the land.

      December 20, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • Louisa Ferre

      How long must the rightful owners of the city remain nomadic

      December 20, 2011 at 1:35 pm |
    • Reality

      origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times review and important enough to reiterate.

      New Torah For Modern Minds

      “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions - the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years - have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity - until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine doc-ument.

      The notion that the Bible is not literally true "is more or less settled and understood among most Conservative rabbis," observed David Wolpe, a rabbi at Sinai Temple in Los Angeles and a contributor to "Etz Hayim." But some congregants, he said, "may not like the stark airing of it." Last Passover, in a sermon to 2,200 congregants at his synagogue, Rabbi Wolpe frankly said that "virtually every modern archaeologist" agrees "that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way that it happened, if it happened at all." The rabbi offered what he called a "LITANY OF DISILLUSION”' about the narrative, including contradictions, improbabilities, chronological lapses and the absence of corroborating evidence. In fact, he said, archaeologists digging in the Sinai have "found no trace of the tribes of Israel - not one shard of pottery."

      December 20, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
    • Mildred the Mouth

      Even though His Holiness, Pope Ranier is infallible, maybe he should consider whether maybe the crematoria at Auschwitz and Dachau are maybe the most unholy places ever erected on Earth. Then again, places are not evil, some people might be called that, if you need to talk like that. Please don't excommunicate me, Holiness.

      December 20, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
  11. hippypoet

    this is very ironic...the people that were using the planes to be flying bombs are now sueing because of how they were treated due to an act of terrorism...now i don't mean to sound racist here but thats the way of the world...people are generally dumb and will react to acts committed by the few as if it was an act of war from one country to another!

    J@panese dude sees this and says "same sh!t different day, at least they haven't put you in camps yet. We at least really did go to war!"

    Jewish dude sees and thinks "Einstein made better bombs!"

    German dude sees this and thinks "Our time is NOW! Strike while they are distracted!!!"

    Polish dude hopes "Not again!"

    December 20, 2011 at 9:11 am |
  12. Keith

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUJU7hKiuZk&w=640&h=360]

    December 20, 2011 at 9:08 am |
    • Higgs

      It was hilarious to watch that saphead in that video.

      December 20, 2011 at 9:45 am |
    • Louisa Ferre

      I speak Arabic,…..this made me laugh

      December 20, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
  13. Keith

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUJU7hKiuZk&w=640&h=360] Have you seen this yet? If the imams think as this guy does-let em' walk.

    December 20, 2011 at 9:03 am |
  14. Keith

    Looks to me to be a chemical plant in the background of the photo. Maybe not such a bad decision.

    December 20, 2011 at 8:58 am |
    • Checkmate

      He must be one of their scholars who has overdosed on brain altering chemicals.

      December 21, 2011 at 7:15 am |
  15. Rainer Braendlein

    I am actually an adherent of freedom of religion. I personally am a Christian. Religious freedom goes very well together with the Christian doctrine. Jesus teached to love everybody independent from belief, nationality, social status, etc..

    Religious freedom also comprises the Muslims, whereby there is a small constraint. We have to distinguish between radical Muslims (true Muslims in the sight of Muhammad) and secular Muslims (apostatized Muslims in the sight of Muhammad). In Germany around 60% of the Muslims are secular (I took the frequency of mosque attendances as indicator for the degree of faith), that means there lifestyle is not very different from the lifestyle of an ordinary Westerner.

    40% of the Muslims in Germany mentally support Jihad and 6% would immediately start to fight, if a Jihad would be declared.

    In a word, most Muslims are secular and thus pretty harmless. They should experience absolute no restriction.

    However, the 40% and the 6% cannot complain, if we (the authority) observe them a little.

    The genuine Islam is violent and aggressive. That is a historical fact. Actually a real Imam, who wants to obey Muhammad and the Koran, has to teach Jihad (holy war). A peaceful Muslim is actually no real Muslim, but a secularized Muslim. A real Muslim had to fight against Jews and Christian, according to the demands of the Koran and Muhammad.

    Conclusion: The pilot, who refused to transport the two Imams, should not be blamed too much. What he did, is understandable.

    The final solution of the Muslim issue would be an internation council of historians and theologians, in order to figure out the historical essence of Islam. The result would be devastating for the Islam. Islam had to be condemned as a criminal belief, which leads people to doom and perdition.

    December 20, 2011 at 8:37 am |
    • Mirosal

      ummmm ... yeah ... Hitler had a "final solution" planned as well. You might want to choose your words with a little more care.

      December 20, 2011 at 8:57 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @Mirosal

      I did not write Final Solution (Endlösung), but final solution (endgültige Lösung).

      December 20, 2011 at 9:03 am |
    • Zubi Afghani

      The term jihad does not mean holy war – it has never meant holy war. The term Holy War was first used by the Crusaders. Jihad has its root in jehd, which means to strive or to struggle. They first lesson of this struggle is to correct your self and guard yourself from committing sin. There are about 5 different types of jihad. I am pretty sure you focused on the very last – which Jihad – bis Saif – meaning struggle by the sword to remove an injustice or injury. The first type however is Jihad bil lissan – or to speak against an injustice or injury. Btw the Arabic term for war is Harab, not jihad look it up in any dictionary.

      There is nothing holy about war – it has never been expressed as such. There is a justification for war. For example the the allies could have simply kept on negotiating with Hitler until he gave in, but instead we choose to fight.

      Instead of just observing the "Moslems," maybe you should try an interact with them.

      December 20, 2011 at 9:01 pm |
  16. Reality

    Why non-Muslim governments should sue Islam:

    The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

    ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

    and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

    and more recently

    1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

    1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

    2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

    3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

    4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

    5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

    6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

    7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

    8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

    9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

    10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

    11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

    12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

    13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

    14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

    15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

    16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

    17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

    18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

    19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

    20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

    21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

    22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

    23) "October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. "

    December 20, 2011 at 8:16 am |
    • Bo

      Reality, considering your posts, which are so much like an almanac, which I use to help me go to sleep, I have an old one, which is to say they are really boring, I wonder about your friends—if you have any. What are you, a statistician? Oh! by the way, I didn't read this post either, just thought you would like to know.

      December 20, 2011 at 10:18 am |
    • Belieber

      While your at the lawyers office, be sure and ask about how much the law suit against the US for killing 100,000 Iraqis is gonna cost, in addition to the 1 trillion dollars the US wasted in Dubya's war. But we won. We just have to keep telling ourselves that, so maybe we'll beliebe it.

      December 20, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • Reality

      Some elements of our War on Terror and Aggression:

      -Operation Iraqi Freedom- The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles as of 09/15/2011/, 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      – Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed mostly due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror,

      – Sa-dd-am, his sons and major he-nchmen have been deleted. Sa-dd-am's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes. Kuwait was saved.

      – Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)

      – North Korea is still u-ncivil but is contained.

      – Northern Ireland is finally at peace.

      – The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords. Unfortunately the Annapolis Peace Conference was not successful. And unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “squ-are one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!

      – – Fa-na–tical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

      – Timothy McVeigh was exe-cuted. Terry Nichols escaped the death penalty twice because of deadlocked juries. He was sentenced to 161 consecutive life terms without the possibility of parole,[3][7] and is incarcerated in ADX Florence, a super maximum security prison near Florence, Colorado. He shares a cellblock that is commonly referred to as "Bombers Row" with Ramzi Yousef and Ted Kaczynski

      – Eric Ru-dolph is spending three life terms in pri-son with no par-ole.

      – Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.

      – Islamic Sudan, Dar-fur and So-malia are still terror hot spots.
      – The terror and tor-ture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Ra-dovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war – charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.

      The capture of Ratko Mladić: (Serbian Cyrillic: Ратко Младић, pronounced [râtkɔ mlǎːditɕ], born 12 March 1943[1][2]) is an accused war criminal and a former Bosnian Serb military leader. On May 31, 2011, Mladić was extradited to The Hague, where he was processed at the detention center that holds suspects for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY).[3] His trial began on 3 June 2011.

      – the bloody terror brought about by the Ja-panese, Na-zis and Co-mmunists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

      – Bin Laden was executed for crimes against humanity on May 1, 2011

      – Ditto for Anwar al-Awlaki on September 30, 2011

      December 20, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • Zubi Afghani

      Execution follows a trail. When you kill someone without a trial its called murder.

      December 20, 2011 at 9:03 pm |
    • Reality

      "U.S. grand jury indicts bin Laden Top Islamist terrorist charged in absentia in embassy bombings

      November 05, 1998|By Mark Matthews | Mark Matthews,SUN NATIONAL STAFF

      WASHINGTON - A federal grand jury formally charged Osama bin Laden yesterday in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa, describing the Saudi exile as the leader of a nine-year conspiracy, reaching from the Philippines to New York, to kill Americans.

      The indictment, returned in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, marked the first time that bin Laden himself has been charged in the bombings, though U.S. officials had blamed him within hours of the two blasts Aug. 7. Those bombings killed 213 people - including 12 Americans - in Nairobi, Kenya, and 11 people in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Thousands more were injured."

      December 20, 2011 at 11:59 pm |
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