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January 3rd, 2012
11:01 PM ET

Santorum benefits from evangelical surge, but born-again Iowans splinter

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN)--Rick Santorum rode a largely evangelical wave of support to finish eight votes behind Mitt Romney in the Iowa Republican caucuses Tuesday night, according to CNN entrance polls, but the evangelical bloc nonetheless appeared to be seriously splintered.

Santorum garnered 34% of evangelical caucus-goers, according to entrance polls, the libertarian Ron Paul garnered 18%, while Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry each took 14% of that vote. Michele Bachmann won 6% of evangelical caucus-goers and Jon Huntsman won 1%.

The entrance poll reflects an evangelical consensus against Romney, who won a plurality of Iowa’s nonevangelical caucus-goers, but also showcases evangelical disagreement over the best alternative to the former Massachusetts governor, considered to be the establishment candidate and the national front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination.

John Green, a political scientist at the University of Akron, noted that Romney did worse among Iowa evangelicals on Tuesday night than he did as a presidential candidate four years ago, when he won 19% of evangelical Iowans.

Some evangelicals oppose Romney because of his Mormon faith, while others distrust him because of his past social liberalism on issues such as abortion, though Romney says he is now against abortion.

Ron Paul, also a candidate in 2008, roughly doubled his evangelical support from four years ago.

Some 58% of Iowa caucus-goers on Tuesday identified as evangelical, according to entrance polls, about as many as in 2008, when Huckabee was seen to have provoked a spike in evangelical turnout.

This year, the intense pursuit of evangelical votes by several candidates, especially Gingrich, Perry, Santorum and Bachmann, might have kept evangelical numbers up.

Tuesday night marked a departure from 2008, when one candidate – Mike Huckabee – won about half of the Iowa evangelical caucus-goers.

For Huckabee, though, evangelical support was as much hindrance as help, as the former Baptist preacher struggled to break out beyond evangelical voters for the rest of the GOP primaries.

Get the latest news on the Iowa caucuses

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Politics

soundoff (304 Responses)
  1. Adam

    Deuteronomy 23:1

    No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.

    January 4, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • justin opinion

      Hmmm... Do they check at the church door?

      January 4, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
  2. Dan

    Santorum even had a larger percentage of the more extreme evangelical votes with 58% of the vote in entrance polls for people that considered abortion to be a bigger issue than the economy, the federal deficit, or health care.

    January 4, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • DeeNYC

      typical mor0ns. like when they voted for Bush they said morality was most important thing. But i guess they were spoiled by the prosperity under clinton.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
  3. Leucadia Bob

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E3eY94Gu0k&w=640&h=360]

    January 4, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
  4. Ed

    Sanitarium is a LOOSER! He just knows what buzz words to say and at what time to get all the dumb blind sheep to vote for them. EV's & BAC's are just plain stupid. No common sense in the lot. No wonder they followed Moses all the time. WAKE UP FOLKS RELIGION IS MAN MADE TO SERVE MAN. NOTHING IN THE UPPER STRATIOSPHERE EXISTS.

    January 4, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • Dan

      Stuff does exist in the upper stratosphere LOL. Is that where you think he should be? You have heard of faith right? Spirituality?

      January 4, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
  5. Sal

    Religion is a crutch, which is not necessarily a bad thing! 

    January 4, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • podunda

      Religion is my crutch. It works much better than using alcohol as a crutch, or s e x as a crutch, or food as a crutch, etc...

      January 4, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Yo!

      "Religion is a crutch, which is not necessarily a bad thing! "

      It's a bad thing because it's a money making machine and brainwashes people into a belief system that is full of hatred and intolerance.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • fred

      Yo
      You may be right about religion but dead (non existent) wrong about the afterlife. That would be based on truth not something neither of us can prove

      January 4, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
    • Sarah

      We need a good religious president to lead us into wars, a good religious republican president to steal from the poor and give to the rich, a president who knows how to lie and lie again, a good christian republican president who understands my need to carry a killing machine under my coat at all times and of course, one who understands that although we are all created equal, we all don't have the right to healthcare. Yes, this is the kind of president Americans need today and forever more.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • justin opinion

      A crutch is fine when you can't stand on your own two legs. The problem is that religion cons people into believing that they can't walk without a crutch.

      So the saying should be: "Religion is a crutch, with a built-in hammer that swings out and breaks your knee once a week."

      January 4, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
  6. suzy

    Bachmann truly followed Tim Leary's advice: "Turn on, tune in and drop out." not Jesus's. She turned on to a radical base, tuned in to them and then dropped out since they rejected her. Good riddance. She is an embarrassment to US electoral politics and Christianity.

    January 4, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • Dan

      Jesus was a leftist liberal bleeding heart. "Conservativism" is not about conservation LMAO! Liberals would like to spend money on saving the environment we live in for the future and the good of the people. "Conservatives" want all the money to be conserved in big business's pocket lining.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
  7. Sal

    I would rather vote for an atheist than an evangelical phony or a born again phony! By the way we are only born once and we die once PERIOD!

    January 4, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • Helper

      Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."
      John 3:3 New American Standard Bible (©1995)

      January 4, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Dan

      Born again in this sense into the kingdom of God means that you are born again AFTER YOUR DEATH. You "rest in the earth" after you die and then at the Second Coming you are born AGAIN, out of the Earth into your new spiritual form.
      Christians that are "born again" need to still die the first time LMAO!

      January 4, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • todd in DC

      Actually, Helper, people who are born again are just experiencing atrophy in their hyperthalimus. I doubt that's mentioned in the bible.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Ezra

      born again after you die! – LMAO!

      January 4, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Helper

      His words are TRUE. The really wonderful thing about God is that He doesnt need to be DEFENDED. He can take care of Himself.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • Adam

      Helper, Just because you keep repeating a lie does not make it true. Try living a fact based life instead of faith based one. The world would be a better place we stopped pretending that believing something without proof is an asset rather than a liability.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • Larry L

      Helper – the quotes you provide were written by men with political and social agendas. They edited the various versions and even included things that contradict each other. If God doesn't need defending why are defending him?

      January 4, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
    • Helper

      The statement wasnt for God's benefit, it was for yours.

      January 4, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • EnjaySea

      Born again is a human concept. John of the bible was a human. The writings of the bible were all penned by humans. I don't believe the ravings of humans unless they can prove that what they're saying is true - John included.

      January 4, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
  8. ricktwit santorum... America's favorite frothy one

    There is a higher incidence of incest among christian conservatives and evangelicals than in any other group that participated in the study.

    January 4, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • Samuel

      I am no supporter of the evangelical movement but I have to address this statement. The research actually shows a higher incidence of these among fundamentalists of any faith as compared to non-fundamentalists with no particular faith being worse than any other. The issue does not appear to be being Christian but belonging to a faith that promotes paternalism, absolutism within the family and a lack of communication between the members of the faith and other segments of society.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • jon

      We are just sick and tired of having this "evangelical" baloney involved in our government and politics. GO AWAY ALREADY. Nobody wants to hear from you nutbags.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • frothyloins

      yeah lets be real, Santorum is just a hot bucket of rectal discharge

      January 4, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • Larry L

      @Samuel

      "The research actually shows a higher incidence of these among fundamentalists of any faith as compared to non-fundamentalists with no particular faith being worse than any other."
      --------------------------------------------
      What?

      January 4, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • Samuel

      @Larry L

      There are fundamentalists in almost all faiths.

      January 4, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
    • EnjaySea

      Without doing any study, it's plain to see that there is a higher incidence of gullibility in all religions, regardless of one's level of fundamentalism. I'll stick with reality, thanks anyway.

      January 4, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
  9. Kwesoe

    The phrase Conservative Christian is actually an oxymoron. Jesus was not a conservative in any sense of the word. He was a radical progressive liberal who, when the conservative Pharisees wanted to stone a woman to death for committing adultery, challenged them and set the woman free. He broke the sabbath laws by healing on the sabbath and fed his disciples on that day. Jesus was a radical who broke with the established system in order to introduce a new relationship between God and his followers. When you mention the name of Jesus, it should be about profound change and not about preservation of the old order.

    January 4, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • Julia Native American

      AMEN to that brother, Jesus was a Socialist, he said feed the hungry, heal the sick, (he didn't mention, "then send them a bill.) The born againers are nothing but born again hypocrits.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • Ezra

      Jesus would never survive an Iowa caucus.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • Adam

      There is no proof that Jesus was real in any sense of the word proof.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
  10. Patrick

    @Mike from CT
    Translations are often the cause of rewrites today So are PC issue such as gender as you mentioned. However many were not. The KJB in fact publicly was to ‘correct’ issue with translation but in fact was to rewritten for political reasons, namely to stop a rebellion.

    To be fair my ‘original’ comment was actually directed to AGuest9 from a previous post on another article.(in which he didn’t reply) The comment was in reference to someone stating the bible is inerrant. I have yet to find out which bible that is.

    January 4, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • Patrick

      I did use the reply button. Thank you CNN.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
  11. Mike

    Don't any of these evangelicals remember Matthew 19:23-24?

    "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Why are these people Republicans?

    January 4, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
    • str8vision

      So true Mike. But also consider; Fabricating lies to justify a war which killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians in order to stabilize/control oil production/exports....(Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor);(Thou shall not kill);(thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods)... The GOP ideology which punishes and suppresses the poor in order to benefit the wealthy, advocating hate, intolerance, selfishness, fear and greed. All polar opposites to the lessons and guidance of Jesus as so clearly set forth in the Christian bible. Yet American's who claim to serve God flock to them......go figure.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • Epidi

      str8vision – you are absolutly right! Even we Pagans (the Wiccan Sect anyhow) have a rule of "Do what thou will but harm ye none." Politics is a nasty biz anymore.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
    • Adam

      Here is one for Gingrich:

      Deuteronomy 23:1

      If a man commits adultery with another man's wife–with the wife of his neighbor–both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
  12. AvdBerg

    In the above article Dan Gilgoff wrote that born-again Iowans are seriously divided.

    How can the Spirit of God be divided? The Word of God explains that it is Satan’s kingdom that is divided (Matthew 12:25,26). What is the truth? We will explain.

    In an earlier article ‘Why do Iowa’s evangelicals wield so much political clout?’ Dan Gilgoff wrote:
    “But experts on religion and politics say the message to one particular subculture – evangelical Iowans – is clear: Mitt Romney may be Mormon, but he shares evangelical Christian values.”

    Furthermore he wrote:

    “Many evangelicals cite what they see as religion’s shrinking role in the public square as another concern. “This nation was founded on Christian ethics and that’s what made the country great,”

    The article by Dan Gilgoff was all falsehood and in it he provided misleading information with respect Christianity and what it means to be a Christian.

    The definition of a ‘Christian’ is to be a follower of Christ. Evangelicals do not follow after Jesus Christ but rather an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24) and they are not born-again..

    The United States was not founded on Christian ethics and Christ’s teachings and as a result the foundations of the country are not only being shaken but are being shattered as the people prefer to follow darkness over light (John 3:19).

    We invite you to read Chapter 23 of the Book of Jeremiah and read about God’s judgment and justice in the earth.
    Revelation 12:9. … which deceiveth the whole world.

    John 12:25. He that loveth his life, shall lose it (Luke 9:24; 17:33).

    2 Timothy 2:4. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life (that includes politics).
    John 17:16. They (the believers) are not of the world.

    Romans 8:5. Human nature and friendship with the world is enmity with God (James 4:4).

    1 John 5:4. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world.

    It should be remembered that even Jesus Christ did not pray for this world (John 17:9; 1 John 5:19).

    Yes, Mitt Romney is a Mormon but he does not share the teachings of Christ. In fact he cannot understand them as they are spiritually discerned (1 Cor. 2:14). For a better understanding of the history of the Mormon Church and its secret agenda, we invite you to read the article Mormon Church ~ Cult and Spiritual Harlot, listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca

    For a better understanding of the above and what it means to be a Christian and to be Born of God, we invite you to read the articles ‘Judging ~ Born Again’ and ‘Can Christianity or Any Other Religion Save You?’ listed on our website.

    Also, to give people a better understanding of the principalities and destructive forces (Eph. 6:12) behind the Media, US Politics and the issues that divide this world, we invite you to read the article ‘CNN Belief Blog ~ Sign of the Times’.

    All of the other pages and articles will explain how and by whom this world has been deceived as confirmed by the Word of God in Revelation 12:9 and they will also explain what mankind must do to be reunited with God and to be able to understand the Bible.

    He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged of no man (1 Cor. 2:15; 14:37; Proverbs 28:5; Gal. 6:1; Col. 1:9; John 3:8; 5:30; 8:15; 16:8-11).

    Seek, and ye will find (Matthew 7:7).

    January 4, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • .....

      CULT ALERT – This poster is a LIAR and they are only here to sell their book and website. Click the report abuse link to get rid of this TROLL!

      January 4, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • marco polo

      Don't think anyone asked for a sermon.

      Gotta love it when one denomination of Christians thinks it's the "true" group of Christians...and I was born and raised a Catholic.

      It is beyond me how some, to this day, STILL call Mormons "a cult". join the 21st century, accept that there are those who have a different view/perceptions of things, and THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM WRONG.

      Try being a Christian by example/actions, not by telling others they are wrong.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • Carrie

      Sounds uncomfortably like different flavors of Sunnis and Shiites – none of the "evangelicals" can agree to disagree on who or how to worship. If we elect an "evangelical" to the presidency, will the Congress eventually consist of "evangelical" factions rather than political parties? "Evangelicals" are already identified in the same breath as Republicans and Democrats. Just when will the religious wars start and when will women start to be cloistered in baby factories? This is not the America I was born in.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • AvdBerg

      marco polo

      For a better understanding of the history of the Catholic Church we invite you to read the articles 'the Mystery Babylon' and 'Popes and the Princes of This World' listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca

      History does not lei. Seek, and ye will find (Matthew 7:7).

      http://WWW.AWORLDDECEIVED.CA

      January 4, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
    • Julia Native American

      Women beware and run for your lives if Romney wins, Mormons believe that a woman can only go to heaven if her husband does good works. So what about all the women with no husband to do good works so they can enter heaven, well, that's why we know that's just a bunch of bull to try and control women, you know keep um in their place. Well when ____freezes over

      January 4, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • dust to dust

      zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      January 4, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • sbilly

      Someone has a bit too much time on their hands

      January 4, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • hans

      Can't think for yourself AvdBerg? Can only quote words of the dead.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • Yo!

      AvdBerg do us all a favor and stop trying to push you pathetic website on us, it would give your stupid posts more credibility. You think you know your truth duke it out here. Your site is garbage and nothing to be proud about. What an idiot. You have to be in you 60's or older. .

      January 4, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Dan

      Views and perceptions often make people wrong. Fact is where the search for truth should lie. If you want religious truth then read the text(s). I will not argue whether Catholicism is right or not, but there was a reformation when Christianity split off from the old church. You really should see what Martin Luther thought was wrong with the churches interpretation (perception/view) of the Bible was... and what it actually says.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • Larry L

      Who is the "we" you keep refering to? Is the "royal we"? All of your quotes come from a book written by men. These men never knew Christ and were guided by the politics of the day. All of the other religions also have their books – also written by men. All religions have very motivated followers and all believe to have a unique story. Most believe everybody else is wrong and will be condemned to hell – by their "loving" god. Most have a super hero who rose from modest beginings and performed miricles. Nobody wants murder, adultry, theft, and certainly not failure to worship whatever god they happen to choose. Most have a violent history of war and even genocide – in the name of their gods. I'd only wish religious people could worship whatever god they choose privately – just keep it to themselves and stay out of politics.

      January 4, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
  13. Mike

    Oh, no!! The evangelicals splintered??? Good! They shouldn't be forcing their fantasies on the rest of us anyway.

    January 4, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
  14. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer helps
    It helps me fondle myself while I think about Jesus
    Jesus is Lord
    I pray he will have s.e.x. with me and forgive me.
    Pray for me.

    January 4, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • Kevin

      ... da hell?

      January 4, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • Kevin

      What?

      January 4, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
  15. Joe Brown

    Every time I ATTEMPT to watch an evangelical, I'm struck by how far they betray the teachings of Christ in order to prove how much they "love" him.
    You'll never hear them preach the Sermon on the Mount.

    January 4, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • Tex71

      Yes, it's strange how the Sermon on the Mount is rarely mentioned except to say how impossible it is to interpret properly. After all, he couldn't possible expect us to take all that anti-materialist, anti-consumerist (gasp!) talk literally...could he?

      January 4, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
  16. ProperVillain

    It cracks me up and saddens me when people base their vote on someone's religion. This guy could be a total dimwit when it comes to ideas, policy, etc, etc yet people will still vote for him because he says words that they hear on Sundays. Sad, sad, sad. Vote for a candidate based on their ideas and solutions, not their theology. I would vote for someone of any religious/non-religious persuasion if I thought their ideas and solutions to problems were solid. Come on people, it is the 21st century! Can't we move past voting based on people being a member of our "tribe"?

    January 4, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
  17. Reality

    Dear Ricky S,

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
    and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen

    January 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • james

      Get down on your knee's and pray – hard – you need it – may God have mercy on your soul.

      January 4, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      (updated by yours truly and based [hearsay] which reality claims is not valid and uses to invalid the gospels, but has no problem using it to agree with him/her self)

      January 4, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • UncleM

      @james – Sorry to burst your bubble, but god is man's creation. Religion is a fraud.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • rick

      James: It is amusing how you see God as a petty, angry being. I have often thought that angry people are comforted by an angry god. Does that describe you?

      January 4, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • Helper

      "Only a fool says in his heart there is no God" (Psalm 14:1)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPSta5q01JY

      January 4, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Yo!

      "Only a fool says in his heart there is no God"

      Only a fool believes that crap because they need you to keep believing in the con. DUH!

      January 4, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • Adam

      Here is one for James:

      Psalm 137:9

      “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

      January 4, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
  18. John

    Santorum??? Another preemptive war? More torture? Did the Evangelical Christians forget the principles of Christianity? When you kill people in a preemptive war, based on false notions of WMD, when there was no real imminent threat, it is not collateral damage but murder.

    "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9
    "Love Your Neighbor"
    "Thou Shalt Not Kill"

    January 4, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • Reality

      Our War on Terror and Aggression:

      An update (or how we are spending or how we have spent the USA taxpayers’ money to eliminate global terror and aggression)

      The terror and aggression via a Partial and Recent and Not So Recent Body Count

      And the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:

      The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

      ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

      and more recently

      1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

      1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

      2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

      3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

      5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

      6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

      7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

      8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

      9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

      10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

      11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

      12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

      13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

      14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

      15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

      16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

      17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

      18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

      19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

      20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

      21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

      22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

      23) "October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. "
      Continued below:
      Other elements of our War on Terror and Aggression:

      -Operation Iraqi Freedom- The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles as of 09/15/2011/, 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      – Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed mostly due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror,

      – Sa-dd-am, his sons and major he-nchmen have been deleted. Sa-dd-am's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes. Kuwait was saved.

      – Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)

      – North Korea is still u-ncivil but is contained.

      – Northern Ireland is finally at peace.

      – The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords. Unfortunately the Annapolis Peace Conference was not successful. And unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “squ-are one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!

      – – Fa-na–tical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

      – Timothy McVeigh was exe-cuted. Terry Nichols escaped the death penalty twice because of deadlocked juries. He was sentenced to 161 consecutive life terms without the possibility of parole,[3][7] and is incarcerated in ADX Florence, a super maximum security prison near Florence, Colorado. He shares a cellblock that is commonly referred to as "Bombers Row" with Ramzi Yousef and Ted Kaczynski

      – Eric Ru-dolph is spending three life terms in pri-son with no par-ole.

      – Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.

      – Islamic Sudan, Dar-fur and So-malia are still terror hot spots.
      – The terror and tor-ture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Ra-dovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war – charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.

      The capture of Ratko Mladić: (Serbian Cyrillic: Ратко Младић, pronounced [râtkɔ mlǎːditɕ], born 12 March 1943[1][2]) is an accused war criminal and a former Bosnian Serb military leader. On May 31, 2011, Mladić was extradited to The Hague, where he was processed at the detention center that holds suspects for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY).[3] His trial began on 3 June 2011.

      – the bloody terror brought about by the Ja-panese, Na-zis and Co-mmunists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

      – Bin Laden was executed for crimes against humanity on May 1, 2011

      – Ditto for Anwar al-Awlaki on September 30, 2011

      January 4, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
    • ProperVillain

      Most candidates and American Christians have re-cast God as a capitalist loving American. What you see in politics and in churches today is the unfortunate result....

      January 4, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Tex71

      They didn't forget the principles of Christianity – they never understood them in the first place. For Evangelicals (like fundamentalists of every religion) it is all about preserving tradition at all cost, never daring to make interpretations that would actually lead to any real change – that might upset the powers that be!

      January 4, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
  19. David Johnson

    I am confused.? The Evangelicals aren't agreeing on which candidate is god's own. I assume they are praying about it. But, they are coming to different conclusions. But if there is only 1 god, the Christian god, why would He have the Evangelicals support different candidates?

    This shows there is no god leading the Evangelical pukes. This shows that the Christian god is very unlikely.

    Cheers!

    January 4, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • lol

      Even if God supported a candidate, do you really think that a God who instilled in us free will would "reveal" this to anybody, let alone an entire Christian sector? That's not the type of stuff you're supposed to look for through prayer, and Christians are sick of the fundamentalist monopoly on God. The call is to love, not to wrap everybody in a neat little package of rules and yell fire and brimstone at anybody who opposes them. (anybody else reminded of the Pharisees?)

      January 4, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • Sampson

      @DJ – unlikely? How about *definitely* no gods exist worthy of the name. Anyway, I salute you, sir! Cheers!

      January 4, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
  20. Dixie AZ

    Santorum, don't get your hopes up. You won't play so well on either coast.

    January 4, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • Bob

      That makes me feel better.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Be free of religion in 2012.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      January 4, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • Mike from CT

      http://www.gotquestions.org/God-heal-amputees.html

      January 4, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • AGuest9

      It's a good thing, too.

      January 4, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • Patrick

      Now if someone would only tell me which version of the bible is inerrant?

      January 4, 2012 at 11:11 am |
    • Mike from CT

      The Hebrew and Greek manuscripts.

      January 4, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • HellBent

      Mike, from those manuscripts – which gospel is inerrant? Can you conclusively say who Jesus' paternal grandfather was?

      January 4, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      Heli on Mary's side

      Jacob from Joseph side

      January 4, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Mike from CT

      Wrong! Jesus doesn't have a paternal grandfather – Trick question! unless of course god has a father....

      January 4, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Patrick

      @Mike from CT
      The question was: which version of the bible is inerrant?
      Your answer is: The Hebrew and Greek manuscripts.

      What is the name of the bible? Stating manuscript is va-gue and could include many text not included in any bible. The question stands

      January 4, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      Chuckles.. fair enough That is like the good old question how many animals did Moses load into the Ark

      But if we take paternal to mean

      1. characteristic of or befitting

      Then Heli and Jacob would take on those characteristics and fill the role.

      Happy New Years

      January 4, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      Patrick, to clarify. When there is an issue with translation because the English is not a comprehensive as Greek, example one word for love in English 5 in Greek I believe, then you would go back to the 24,000 partial and complete manuscript copies of the New Testament.

      January 4, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      I am currently going through the ESV this year. I have read and listen to issues with the NIV and TNIV around gender neutrality

      January 4, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • HellBent

      @Mike,

      Then Luke erred when he said that Joseph was of Heli? And yes, I've heard all of the arguments saying that Luke was really talking about Mary when he said Joseph. Frankly, it's all an effort to fit a square peg into a round hole. It's like trying to say that beating your slaves is moral. Pathetic, really.

      January 4, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
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