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January 5th, 2012
02:13 PM ET

Bishop admits having children, resigns

By the CNN Wire Staff

(CNN) - A Los Angeles Catholic bishop has resigned from the church after admitting he is the father of two teenage children, leaders said.

Bishop Gabino Zavala told Los Angeles Archbishop Jose Gomez in early December about the children, and the pope accepted his resignation Wednesday.

The mother and the two children live outside of California, Gomez said in a letter in which he described the situation as "sad and difficult."

Zavala had not been in the ministry since he shared his secret, and will be living privately, Gomez said.

The Los Angeles Archdiocese has reached out to the mother to provide spiritual care and funding to help with the children's college costs, the letter said.

Zavala is a native of Guerrero, Mexico, and grew up in Los Angeles, according to the archdiocese website. He became a priest in 1977 and worked in East Los Angeles. Since 1994, he had been the auxiliary bishop for the San Gabriel Region.

He was also president of Pax Christi USA, a Catholic organization that advocates for peace, for the past nine years.

"Bishop Zavala consistently brought the power of the gospel to bear on issues like immigration, worker rights, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and nuclear disarmament," Pax Christi USA said in a statement on its website.

"During this time of personal hardship, we offer our prayers for Bishop Zavala, his family, and all those affected by this news," the statement added.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: California • Catholic Church

soundoff (426 Responses)
  1. AvdBerg

    The following is an excerpt from the article ‘The Mystery Babylon’ of the Book ‘A World Deceived’ and also listed on our website http://www.aworldeceived.ca

    “16. The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by Pope Hildebrand Gregory VII in the year 1079 AD. Jesus imposed no such rules nor did any of the apostles. On the contrary, Peter was married and Paul states that bishops were to have one wife and could have children (1 Tim 3:5,12; Matt 8:14-15).”

    The Bishop of Los Angeles is not a servant of God but a natural man who is a servant of sin (John 8:34) and who has transformed into an apostle of Christ (2 Cor. 11:13-15).

    Our Ministry, which is in Christ and according to the Spirit of truth (John 14:17), has reached out to CNN and key contacts for more than two years but they continue to sensationalize news involving religious scandals rather than a message of truth. Recently they even arranged to have all of our e-mails blocked to ensure we are no longer able to contact the writers and explain their deceptive articles. The purpose of our postings is to keep straight the way of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

    For a better understanding of the issues that the Los Angeles Archdiocese is facing we invite you to read the item ‘Boston Diocese names 250 priests’ listed as the second item on the Current Events page of our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca
    We also do encourage you to read the articles ‘Boston University ~ School of Theology and Stonehill College’, ‘The Mystery Babylon’, ‘Popes and the Princes of This World’ and ‘What is Sin’.

    To give people a better understanding of the principalities and destructive forces (Eph. 6:12) that control the Media, US Politics and the issues that divide this world, we invite you to read the articles ‘CNN Belief Blog ~ Sign of the Times’ and ‘Influence of the Media’.

    All of the other pages and articles will explain how and by whom this world has been deceived as confirmed by the Word of God in Revelation 12:9 and they will also explain what mankind must do to be reunited with God and to be able to understand the Bible.

    He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged of no man (1 Cor. 2:15; 14:37; Proverbs 28:5; Gal. 6:1; Col. 1:9; John 3:8; 5:30; 8:15; 16:8-11).

    Seek, and ye will find (Matthew 7:7).

    January 6, 2012 at 9:37 am |
    • .....

      CULT ALERT – Click the report abuse link to get rid of this TROLL!
      They are LIARS and are only here to sell their garbage website and book.

      January 6, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
  2. Reality

    The RCC should shut its doors considering its flawed priests, history and theology. And contributions keeping this dinosaur afloat could be used to keep our government and most of the governments in Europe in good order. Ditto for all other churches, mosques and temples around the globe.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    January 6, 2012 at 7:52 am |
  3. Mayfly

    OBSERVER
    Abortion can not be both moral and immoral. The laws allowing for abortion up to the 22nd weeks of gestation do not protect mothers who want their baby but lose their child due to an assault, accident (by say a drunk driver), or criminal act causing her to miscarry. A desire to end the child's life in the womb does not make it less than a child. More harm has come to women who regret their abortions than the "solution" they thought it would be for them. It is our society that wants to abort its children... If women felt supported by our culture they would not abort. God bless all mothers and help them to feel safe. Help them to protect the life in their womb and say yes to life. Educate to end the culture of death.

    January 6, 2012 at 7:17 am |
    • Reality

      So abortionists get rich at the expense of the Immoral Majority: i.e. those who forget to use birth control properly. Take your Pills ladies, wear your condoms guys and save yourself a lot of money and grief and also thereby sending abortion doctors to the poor house.

      And it is very disturbing that we give legal protection to the fer-tilized eggs and the developing young of protected animal and ins-ect spe-cies but give no legal protection to our own growing young ones.

      January 6, 2012 at 7:55 am |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Pray without ceasing in 2012
    Pray to receive salvation today

    January 6, 2012 at 4:45 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      You keep saying it but never back it...time to do so!! Although to be honest, it is a well known fact to anyone with a rational mind that has not been polluted by the buybull or religious dogma that prayer does absolutely nothing except to appease the person saying the prayer...ask the number of poor children who died b/c their moronic, inept parents prayed instead of getting them the necessary medical treatment to save their lives...when prayer works to save innocent children then we might accept what you say to be fact but until that happens, you sound like a prime case for the APA....enjoy your delusions-they are the equivalent of the schizophrenic who hears voices and believes them.

      January 6, 2012 at 7:46 am |
  5. Observer

    Let me sum up my feelings on abortion.

    First of all, NO ONE likes abortion.

    Everyone is "pro-abortion" if things get horribly bad enough.
    Everyone is "pro-life": it just depends if that life is the one of the mother or the fetus.

    The real "sides" here are whether you are "pro-choice" or "anti-choice" but even more than that, we are all on a scale that goes from one to the other. We just need to recognize that it is a scale and respect each other.

    January 6, 2012 at 4:13 am |
    • Mayfly

      Our culture of death has desensitized us to the reality of abortion. Our self hate is what causes abortion and our lack of empathy for others. There are no programs offered by Family Planning to help heal the broken hearts of the mothers who regret their abortions...but the Catholic Church offers support and forgiveness and healing. You won't hear about that from the main media because it is not politically correct to suggest that a woman who aborts her baby would ever regret it. Every woman I know in my family and otherwise who have had abortions have suffered and regrets her abortion. It is tragic that our culture thinks we are being kind when we tell someone they are flawed, their situation is flawed, and their baby, it isn't welcome. We are also quick to tell people of color the same. Abortion is a less obvious form of genocide.

      January 6, 2012 at 11:39 am |
  6. Observer

    HeavenSent,

    "Observer, dalis believes the scriptures pertain to miscarriage. Man made abortion is causing the fruit to depart from her."

    I am not sure that you can speak for dalis, but if you read your own quote, it clearly is not talking about a natural miscarriage. It is talking about a "crime", like you consider abortion to be.

    January 6, 2012 at 3:58 am |
    • dalis

      I wasn't disputing that the Scripture was referring to an induced abortion. I was pointing out the difference in agency between causing a woman to miscarry a pregnancy she presumably wished to carry to term and a woman seeking an abortion herself.

      If I was going to try to convince Observer of the wrongness of abortion, I wouldn't cite Scripture. I would cite human anatomy: the fact that at 6 weeks' gestation when a woman knows she's pregnant and when most surgical abortions are performed, that embryo has a beating heart, and the mother isn't doing it. That embryo is alive.

      But, you know what? We could all agree, but unless that child's mother is convinced, it won't matter.

      January 6, 2012 at 4:13 am |
    • Observer

      dalis,

      It's likely that almost every woman having an abortion knows what is going on and faces the issue of the "personal-ity" of the fetus and her relation to her religion. The real issue for the woman is deciding what is best for her and her offspring. Even feeling that a 2-inch fetus is a miniature person still may leave the mother wanting an abortion. It could be for a long list of reasons including her health.

      Anti-choice people like to pretend that all abortions mean that the world's population is reduced by that amount of people. The truth is that likely millions of people exist/existed because prior pregnancies were terminated so that the mother could have them to give them a much better life later (called "planned parenthood"). Reality.

      January 6, 2012 at 4:29 am |
  7. The Central Scutinizer

    I was molested. Until you have been you have nothing to say.

    January 6, 2012 at 3:20 am |
    • dalis

      So was I, by a family member. I'm sorry.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:24 am |
    • Observer

      Something I hope that both of you fully realize is that you have the overwhelming support of believers and non-believers. This is not a religious issue. As more and more brave people like you come forward, we are all making progress in exposing this horrendous problem and reducing monsters in the future. You are helping countless others. Deserved good luck to both of you.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:48 am |
  8. Observer

    Is there ANYTHING in the Bible that says that molesting children is wrong?

    January 6, 2012 at 1:59 am |
    • dalis

      Mark 9:42: "And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea."

      January 6, 2012 at 2:06 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Depending upon which Babble you use, "offend" may not include s3xual assault.

      January 6, 2012 at 2:17 am |
    • Observer

      So the answer is "apparently not". It's just more wishful thinking from people who wish the Bible specifically condemned abortion, too.

      January 6, 2012 at 2:23 am |
    • dalis

      @ Observer Why? Are you seeking permission to molest children?

      January 6, 2012 at 2:37 am |
    • Observer

      dalis,

      No. I'm not close to becoming a priest. 🙂

      January 6, 2012 at 2:40 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Observer, you posted "So the answer is "apparently not". It's just more wishful thinking from people who wish the Bible specifically condemned abortion, too."

      Answer: You spoke too soon...

      22 If men strive , and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
      23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
      24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
      25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

      Exodus 21:22-25

      Amen.

      January 6, 2012 at 2:41 am |
    • dalis

      @ Heaven Sent That is the punishment for causing a woman to miscarry. I don't know that the writers of the Bible envisioned that women would want to themselves.

      January 6, 2012 at 2:44 am |
    • dalis

      Those were our children, Observer. You want to join the human race or make jokes?

      January 6, 2012 at 2:45 am |
    • Observer

      HeavenSent,

      That passage actually supports abortion since the punishment for hurting another PERSON is "an eye for an eye". A fetus is not considered the same as a person.

      January 6, 2012 at 2:48 am |
    • HotAirAce

      And the judges have determined there is no fine for (legal) abortions.

      January 6, 2012 at 2:51 am |
    • Observer

      dalis,

      The smiley face was only to indicate that I wasn't making a statement that was purely factual about all priests. So were you asking if I wanted to molest children as a similar "not purely factual" statement or are you saying that I would be capable of such things?

      "You want to join the human race or make jokes?"

      January 6, 2012 at 2:52 am |
    • Observer

      Mark 9:42 apparently has NOTHING to do with molesting children. Looking at other English translations, it consistently refers to children "stumbling" and sinning.

      January 6, 2012 at 2:55 am |
    • dalis

      @ Observer You're an anonymous person on the Internet. I don't know what you're capable of.

      But, my question was, why do you want to know if something is proscribed by the Bible? If something's not addressed, does that automatically mean it's permissible? Like abortion? Like child molestation? Or does that simply mean that the Bible isn't the only book? That something can still be wrong because it demonstrably does harm?

      January 6, 2012 at 2:58 am |
    • Observer

      dalis,

      "Or does that simply mean that the Bible isn't the only book? That something can still be wrong because it demonstrably does harm?"

      EXCELLENT POINT. Seriously. I wish all Christians would read what you said. Atheists and agnostics get sick of hearing the ignorant comment from some Christians that you have to believe in the Bible to have morals. Absolute nonsense.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:02 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Googling "bible child molestation" yields http://www.minuteswithmessiah.com/question/molest.html, among others.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:03 am |
    • Observer

      HotAirAce,

      Excellent research. This is what the religious website you referenced says:

      "The Bible nowhere speaks specifically of child molestation.". It then goes on to try to link child molestation to incest, etc.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:07 am |
    • dalis

      " the ignorant comment from some Christians that you have to believe in the Bible to have morals"

      @ Observer they believe this about you because they believe it about themselves. If they have to choose to raise children who are intelligent or children who are good, they'll choose the latter. Only the Christian traditions which have a strong tradition of scholarship (including Roman Catholicism) think you can have both and even that one pursuit can serve the other. They're the most likely to appeal to Reason rather than cherry pick Scripture.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:19 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Observer, you posted “HeavenSent, That passage actually supports abortion since the punishment for hurting another PERSON is "an eye for an eye". A fetus is not considered the same as a person.

      Answer: Only non-believers believe a fetus is not consider the same as a person. Jesus’ truth tells us differently ... see His truth (scriptures) regarding the fetus in the womb ...

      And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost.

      Luke 1:41

      Romans 9:10-14

      10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
      11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
      12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
      13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
      14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

      Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.

      Isaiah 49:1

      Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

      Jeremiah 1:5

      P.S. you need to understand the ways of the world (man made rules) versus Jesus' truth about life and the hereafter.

      Amen.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:23 am |
    • Observer

      dalis,

      "@ Observer they believe this about you because they believe it about themselves." I agree. Their failure to realize that other people can have similar morals is what makes the statement so ignorant.

      When you get right down to it, atheists and agnostics with "good morals" deserve more credit that believers since they are "good" based on believing it is best for mankind rather than because of threats (hell) and bribes (heaven).

      January 6, 2012 at 3:29 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Trying for the 3rd time to get this posted.

      Observer, you posted “HeavenSent, That passage actually supports abortion since the punishment for hurting another PERSON is "an eye for an eye". A fetus is not considered the same as a person.

      Answer: Only non-believers believe a fetus is not consider the same as a person. Jesus’ truth tells us differently ... see His truth (scriptures) regarding the fetus in the womb ...

      And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost.

      Luke 1:41

      Romans 9:10-14

      10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
      11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
      12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
      13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
      14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

      Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.

      Isaiah 49:1

      Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

      Jeremiah 1:5

      P.S. you need to understand the ways of the world (man made rules) versus Jesus' truth about life and the hereafter.

      Amen.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:36 am |
    • Observer

      HeavenSent,
      "Only non-believers believe a fetus is not consider the same as a person."

      I said nothing about non-believers in my quote from the Bible. It is the Bible that says the killing a fetus is not to be punished like you would for a person. The punishments are DEFINITELY not equal as stated in the Bible. Argue with the Bible.

      The Bible never mentions abortion so all we can do is to look at the record. Actions speak louder than words. The Bible is full of commands from God to kill women and NEVER does God care if they are pregnant or not.

      At one point, God killed EVERY pregnant woman, child, baby, and fetus on the face of the earth. Again, actions speak louder than words.

      As I said, there is no direct mention of "abortion". Evidence just shows more support of abortion than oppostion to abortion. Fetuses just weren't that important to God in the Bible.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:39 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Observer, you posted to dalis, "@ Observer they believe this about you because they believe it about themselves." I agree. Their failure to realize that other people can have similar morals is what makes the statement so ignorant.

      When you get right down to it, atheists and agnostics with "good morals" deserve more credit that believers since they are "good" based on believing it is best for mankind rather than because of threats (hell) and bribes (heaven)."

      Answer: Your ancestors believed in Jesus and taught His truth to their children, passing His truth to future generations. You folks who don't believe are only a few generations in doing so and refuse to accept Jesus taught us from the beginning.

      Amen.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:41 am |
    • dalis

      "When you get right down to it, atheists and agnostics with "good morals" deserve more credit that believers since they are "good" based on believing it is best for mankind rather than because of threats (hell) and bribes (heaven)."

      That's funny. St. Thomas Aquinas said basically the same thing, and I think it's been echoed time and time again about what is true altruism.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:51 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Observer, dalis believes the scriptures pertain to miscarriage. Man made abortion is causing the fruit to depart from her.

      Amen.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:52 am |
    • Observer

      HeavenSent,

      "You folks who don't believe are only a few generations in doing so and refuse to accept Jesus taught us from the beginning."

      Not really. The 2,000 years of Jesus is a drop in the bucket of life; in your terms "only a few generations". There have been thousands of gods that people believed in for thousands of years before Jesus and many generations in other parts of the world that didn't get exposure to the Bible for well over a thousand years after his life. It is Christianity that is a relatively "few generations" old compared to religions from thousands of years earlier.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:54 am |
    • HeavenSent

      dalis, let me get this straight ... You've been living on this earth how many years? Versus, Jesus' truth that's been handed down from generation to generation (over 6,000 years for this 2nd earth age and including since the foundation of the world).

      You need to give credit to our Lord and Savior for taking lumps of clay (us) and molding us to be the best that He wants us to be.

      Amen.

      January 6, 2012 at 3:58 am |
    • dalis

      @ I've been on this earth 32 years, arguably not long enough to learn very much. 😉

      January 6, 2012 at 4:04 am |
    • Observer

      "Jesus' truth that's been handed down from generation to generation (over 6,000 years"

      Not exactly. Jesus truth has only existed for 2,000 years out of many thousands. As the Bible clearly shows, Jesus got God to change many of the rules that had been in effect for thousands of years. For example, we no longer have a long list of reasons to kill each other for.

      January 6, 2012 at 4:05 am |
    • Mirosal

      Is HS one of those "young Earth" creationists who think this planet is only 6,000 years old?

      January 6, 2012 at 4:08 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Observer, you posted “HeavenSent, "You folks who don't believe are only a few generations in doing so and refuse to accept Jesus taught us from the beginning."

      Not really. The 2,000 years of Jesus is a drop in the bucket of life; in your terms "only a few generations". There have been thousands of gods that people believed in for thousands of years before Jesus and many generations in other parts of the world that didn't get exposure to the Bible for well over a thousand years after his life. It is Christianity that is a relatively "few generations" old compared to religions from thousands of years earlier.”

      Answer: Observer, you have some serious reading to do with new eyes to see and ears to hear his truth as is written:

      Matthew 13:35

      That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

      Matthew 25:34

      Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

      Luke 11:50

      That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;

      John 17:24

      Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

      Ephesians 1:4

      According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

      Hebrews 4:3

      For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

      Hebrews 9:26

      For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

      1 Peter 1:20

      Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

      Revelation 13:8

      And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

      Revelation 17:8

      The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

      Genesis 1:2

      2Peter 3:5-6

      Isaiah 45:18

      2 Peter 3:7

      2 Peter 3:13.

      Matthew 13:35

      The Book of Genesis explains this 2nd earth age to us who are born of woman through Revelation. The Bible is the truth about Jesus Christ.

      Amen.

      I find it very interesting that so many want to deny Jesus’ truth and none of you self proclaimed non-believers even question why.

      January 6, 2012 at 4:26 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Mirosal, you posted "Is HS one of those "young Earth" creationists who think this planet is only 6,000 years old?"

      Answer: No. I am a Christian who reads and researches His truth and constantly seek to find out what other seekers have found to be true, matching His scriptures to what has unveiled to us through the generations.

      Christians will tell you that this 2nd earth age is over 6,000 years old. However, Jesus' truth is cross referenced in the Bible regarding the foundations of the earth, the Katabole (destruction of the first earth age when the dinosaurs roamed, except God called the beast behemoths). You have to read that there is 3 earth ages and 3 heaven ages to comprehend His truth.

      Amen.

      January 6, 2012 at 4:33 am |
    • Observer

      HeavenSent,

      Final comment for tonight.

      If Jesus hadn't radically CHANGED things JUST 2,000 years ago, we would still be stoning unruly children, killing adulterers, having ra-pe victims marry their rapists, killing fortune tellers, and killing anyone working on the Sabbath (the end of professional sports).

      If the Bible is true, that is REALITY, not wishful thinking.

      Good night.

      January 6, 2012 at 4:36 am |
    • dalis

      @ Heaven Sent If you don't mind my asking, what denomination of Christianity do you belong to? I ask because the terminology you use about earth and heaven ages is not familiar to me at all.

      January 6, 2012 at 4:39 am |
    • Mirosal

      I had 12 years of Jesuit education. I have NEVER heard of this "katabole", nor do I remember anywhere the word 'behemoth' in reference to dinosaurs. Who wrote this 'katabole'? Just WHICH Christians refer to the 3 ages of the earth?
      Just so I'm clear ... the dinosaurs roamed. "God' decided to end that. A meteor strikes the Yucatan peninsula. Poof .. no more dinossaurs .. end of age 1 ... along come mammals, and with that, humans. Apparently 'god' didn't like that either, so a flood rava'ged the earth ... end age 2 ... so with 8 people and a slew of paired animals on a boat, the entire genetic map is laid out. Then 'he' sens his son to tell us to shape up, or else. So now we're nearing the end of age 3? That about cover it?

      January 6, 2012 at 4:44 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Observer, you posted "HeavenSent, Final comment for tonight.

      If Jesus hadn't radically CHANGED things JUST 2,000 years ago, we would still be stoning unruly children, killing adulterers, having ra-pe victims marry their rapists, killing fortune tellers, and killing anyone working on the Sabbath (the end of professional sports).

      If the Bible is true, that is REALITY, not wishful thinking.

      Good night."

      Answer: I'll write my answer again, since you guys constantly take scriptures out of context to make your point of hatred towards Jesus. As a Christian, our point is that Jesus teaches subject, article and outcome. Jesus wants us to be the best that we can be, therefore, He prefers us to take the courageous righteous paths in life, but, teaches us what happens when a person cowardly takes the unrighteous path in life. In your world it's called right vs wrong behaviors.

      Amen.

      January 7, 2012 at 7:25 am |
    • HeavenSent

      dalis, you asked "@ Heaven Sent If you don't mind my asking, what denomination of Christianity do you belong to? I ask because the terminology you use about earth and heaven ages is not familiar to me at all."

      Answer: I don't belong to a church. I left the church at 13 and promised my dad that I would further my studies on my own by reading the Bible. I search many believers sites to read what they've uncovered. If something rings true to me, I continue my research of said scriptures.

      Amen.

      January 7, 2012 at 7:31 am |
    • Mirosal

      @ HS ... So what is this "katabole", who wrote it, and who considers it to be 'sacred'?

      January 7, 2012 at 7:43 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Mirosal, you posted "I had 12 years of Jesuit education. I have NEVER heard of this "katabole", nor do I remember anywhere the word 'behemoth' in reference to dinosaurs. Who wrote this 'katabole'? Just WHICH Christians refer to the 3 ages of the earth?

      Just so I'm clear ... the dinosaurs roamed. "God' decided to end that. A meteor strikes the Yucatan peninsula. Poof .. no more dinossaurs .. end of age 1 ... along come mammals, and with that, humans. Apparently 'god' didn't like that either, so a flood rava'ged the earth ... end age 2 ... so with 8 people and a slew of paired animals on a boat, the entire genetic map is laid out. Then 'he' sens his son to tell us to shape up, or else. So now we're nearing the end of age 3? That about cover it?"

      Answer: behemoths are written in Job 40:15-19. A great Christian site that you can read about the destruction of the first earth age, the katabole, Noah’s flood was regional, not global is: http://www.biblestudysite.com/begin.htm

      Other Christian site to learn the Bible book by book, scripture by scripture is Pastor Murray’s site at shepherdschapel.com

      Amen.

      January 7, 2012 at 7:47 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Mirosal, you wrote “@ HS ... So what is this "katabole", who wrote it, and who considers it to be 'sacred'?”

      Answer: Go to http://www.biblestudysite.com/answers12.htm#6 pertaining to the Greek word katabole.

      Amen.

      January 7, 2012 at 7:55 am |
    • HeavenSent

      dalis, correction. I wanted to leave the church at 13 when I first had this discussion with my dad. He asked that I give the church a few more years of teaching (until I was 15 or 16) before I made my decision. Therefore, I actually left attending church services at 15 or 16.

      Amen.

      January 7, 2012 at 7:59 am |
    • Mirosal

      I asked for a simple explaination, not a link to a 'propoganda' site. Can you do that, or are you not that eloquent?

      January 7, 2012 at 8:02 am |
    • Mirosal

      So the flood was regional, not global? Your own 'holy' book specifically says global. So your book is wrong? Since you avow that the book IS the word of your 'god', I guess your deity doesn't know the difference between regional and global? Not much of a 'god' is it?

      January 7, 2012 at 8:06 am |
  9. Ngozi

    Those kids will need him in their life, I just hope that he undstands that...

    January 6, 2012 at 1:45 am |
  10. gupsphoo

    I'm fine with him. At least he's not molesting little boys like other Catholic priests are.

    January 6, 2012 at 1:27 am |
  11. Solex

    Pope John Paul II arrives at the Pearly Gates and is welcomed by St. Peter. After being shown around, JP II asks if it would be OK to check out the library. Peter says fine and goes back to work.

    A short time later there is a blood curdling scream coming from the library. Peter rushes in and finds JP II howling and wringing his hands. When Peter asks what is wrong, JP II replies:

    "It's a typo! The word is CELEBRATE!"

    January 6, 2012 at 1:15 am |
    • erniepf

      Heavens, NO! Gawd forbid these heathens have thex!

      January 6, 2012 at 1:19 am |
  12. Threepak not Chopra

    If the color blue is red in another color light then why is it called blue? In other words what is his reality? Shifting or not and what is the the way others view him. Get the point? Each person has a different point of view slightly different or even more so. We all agree this should be talked about but at the same time uphold the conventions that keep it walled off with belief structures that prevents open discussion. All people are complex and have a lot of defining facets for each of them but only development through time allows us to grasp a new paradigm to drop a lot of this empowered silent sacred realm and move on.

    January 6, 2012 at 1:15 am |
    • erniepf

      Dude, smoke some weed, and try a little more insightful BS. It's the urge, pure and simple.

      January 6, 2012 at 1:21 am |
  13. Solex

    What is really sad is that there is NOTHING in the bible that requires priests to be celibate.

    January 6, 2012 at 1:11 am |
    • Inconvenient George

      But it's Sacred Tradition. Which really means it's the CURRENT Sacred Tradition, which came about after the older Sacred Tradition, which is no longer the Tradition, (or would that make it the "traditional" Tradition ?)

      January 6, 2012 at 1:15 am |
  14. cinderella

    He didn"t remain true to his catholic vow upon entering the priesthood. He showed that he was "human" and broken his vow just as many catholics who marry break their marrital vow and cheat and get divorced.
    Catholics have the sacrament of confession where they go to their priest and confess their sins. The priest absolves them of their sins, tells them to say a prayer called the act of contrition and a few hail marys and our father prayers and they are told they have a clean slate. Through this "absolution of sin" through the act of confession many catholics feel that they can go out and do what they want "sin" and they will just go to church on the weekend and go to confession and all is well to have another week of doing what they want.

    Practicing catholics have shown that this type of behavior is just hypocritical and thus proving that catholicism is hyprocritical.

    January 6, 2012 at 1:10 am |
    • dalis

      @ cinderella Yes, making a false confession IS hypocritical, but that's not what confession is for. That's abusing the sacrament. Catholicism isn't hypocritical. Catholics often are.

      January 6, 2012 at 1:14 am |
  15. Ron

    What a sad story. Can you imagine what this is doing to this bishop and his family. It should be changed in my opinion.

    January 6, 2012 at 1:03 am |
    • Tom

      here is the real problem.. it isn't faith.. it isn't about his children, or having children.. it is about the inflexibility regarding Catholicism in general.. It is the way they look at the entire population, nevermind their own pastors or bishops, or whatchamacallits. I remember as a little kid around catholics thinking to myself, just -what in the world is wrong with these people sooooooooo much? What the hell is with this people? One minute as nice as could possiblly be, and the next thing, sorry but we can't talk to sweet aunt mable anymore because she divorced her husband.... so screw poor auntie, and aunties kids from parties, and whatever.. I am really sick of catholics. I love them. And at the same time I can't stand them.

      January 6, 2012 at 1:07 am |
    • erniepf

      This guy's going to he||, no doubt about it. Perv. Sicko. Hetero-d-bag. Woman lover. Normal guy. Sacker. Fun-loving religious nobody. Jeez.

      January 6, 2012 at 1:18 am |
  16. Blessed Geek

    He is a better priest than most other priests who hide their desires for little boys.

    Let me surmise this situation:

    The Catholic church will protect and keep within its bosom, priests who molest little boys.
    But it will never forgive a priest who's actually had children in a decent way.

    January 6, 2012 at 1:01 am |
  17. loken

    Maybe he thought he could keep that vow at the time he made it. Things change. people fall in love.
    Love is a strong emotion. Many take marriage vows they can't keep. A priest is only human. Let them marry if they
    choose. celibacy is not normal and has caused many problems in the Catholic church. Time for a change.

    January 6, 2012 at 12:59 am |
  18. Big D

    I agree with Josh Olsen....very refreshing. This priest did nothing wrong other than do what normal humans do....have relations. Sucks that catholic priests are required to practice celibacy.

    January 6, 2012 at 12:51 am |
  19. Josh Olsen

    That is refreshing. A Catholic priest that is into women.

    January 6, 2012 at 12:39 am |
    • HellBent

      Or at least interested in those of at least the age of consent.

      January 6, 2012 at 1:37 am |
  20. James

    How about just allowing them to marry and have children like normal humans? Celibacy is not realistic or natural.

    January 6, 2012 at 12:31 am |
    • dalis

      That's an interesting debate that needs to happen, but think about it this way. These priests took their vows with their eyes open. This is VOLUNTARY celibacy.

      If a priest can't honor his vows of ordination, what makes you think he can honor marital vows?

      January 6, 2012 at 12:35 am |
    • NyteShayde

      That's easy. Marital copulation is normal. Celibacy is not and goes against natural hormonal response, and human nature. Try and use a little common sense.

      January 6, 2012 at 1:01 am |
    • dalis

      @ NyteShayde If you don't think marriage requires restraint, you've never been married.

      January 6, 2012 at 1:10 am |
    • erniepf

      keerist, ahmighty, dalis! It's irrelevant! The guy fell for some gal, had a child (or two), and you claim his celibacy should be the original wife? Oh.

      January 6, 2012 at 1:28 am |
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