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Is God going to hook me up online? Assessing Christian Mingle and 'soul mates'
January 7th, 2012
02:00 AM ET

Is God going to hook me up online? Assessing Christian Mingle and 'soul mates'

By Thom Patterson, CNN

(CNN) - Has God taken an interest in the computer dating business? Does he (or she) have a username and password?

You might think so, if you’ve seen TV ads for the subscription-based dating website christianmingle.com.

The announcer says confidently: “Find God’s match for you.”

Really? Is God going to hook you up online? Cue the blogospheric debate.

"That's awfully bold to presume they already know who God wants you to marry," tweeted @Jessie_luvJesus recently.

"... SMH [shaking my head] these folks should be ashamed," wrote @EWebb424.

The tagline has been creating a “misconception” that God works exclusively through Christian Mingle, says spokeswoman Ashley Reccord.

Launched in 2001, Christian Mingle now boasts more than 5 million members, 40% of whom joined within the past year, according to the site (Full disclosure: Christian Mingle advertises on CNN.)

Members can register free and are asked to answer several questions based on religious background and personal preferences. Based on those answers, the website offers profiles of potential matches.

A search on the site for “soul mate” among women age 18-80 came up with 1,000 profiles, including one from Florida.

“I’m in search of the man God has for me,” writes the 35-year-old woman. “I’m looking for my best friend, my soul mate, and someone to share life’s greatest moments with.”

A 39-year-old woman in Colorado Springs, Colorado, wrote, “I still believe in true love … a soul mate. I am reasonable. I understand that there is not a perfect man out there … but one who is perfect for me.”

Says Reccord, the Christian Mingle spokeswoman: "God can orchestrate and use the medium of Christian Mingle to allow people to find their match for one another on the site. He may or may not use that means, but he can use that means."

So does that mean the cliché is true, that some matches really are “made in heaven?" Does God, if you believe there is one, pre-select us to pair up as life partners, as "soul mates?"

The Bible has little if anything to say about the matter, according to many religious writers and leaders. But several high-profile religious commentators have strong opinions about the idea:

–Soul mates do exist, according to some religious voices who cite the Jewish Talmud.

–Many Christians believe God helps people create their own kind of soul mates.

–Some say the Bible's "language of sexuality" supports the concept.

–Islam rejects the notion of soul mates, according to Muslim leaders.

–Many say belief in soul mates has negative consequences and can even be harmful.

Some of those warning about the dangers of the soul mate idea are Christians.

"If I get to heaven and I hear God say he had someone picked out for me, I'll believe him," says Lisa Anderson, host of "The Boundless Show," the evangelical Christian group Focus on the Family's podcast for young adults.

"But it seems that this soul mate idea is really breaking up a lot of marriages and it's keeping a lot of young adults single."

Anderson says that believing in soul mates sets up two possible worst-case scenarios: a revolving door of marriages or a lifetime of being single.

Many young adults, she says, make this mistake: They think if they marry their “soul mate” then the marriage will be easy and wonderful. Then if the marriage turns rocky, game over; they suddenly decide they've picked the wrong mate. The marriage ends and they return to square one, searching for someone else to fill the soul mate role.

On the other hand, searching for a soul mate can be tragically intimidating, to the point of indecision.

"We're seeing young adults – X-ers and millennials - absolutely paralyzed and unable to get to marriage because they want to do it right," says Anderson. "They don't want to be their parents' generation ... the largest divorce generation in history."

Yada yada yada

But other evangelical Christian opinion-makers back Christian Mingle’s idea of an divinely ordained match.

"I would be scared to jump off a theological cliff and say we’re intended for one specific person," says Christian author Dannah Gresh. But based on the Bible’s “sexual language,” she doesn't dismiss the possibility.

The Old Testament’s original Hebrew text uses the word "yada" to imply the act of sex, says Gresh.

However, yada doesn't necessarily mean having sex in a literal sense, says Gresh. It means "to know," "to be known" or "to be respected."

She says yada biblically links the concepts of sex and the soul. "Sex is about a soul connection in its truest form," says Gresh, giving credence to a possible connection between God and the soul mate concept.

Not quite, says Bible scholar O. Wesley Allen of Lexington Theological Seminary. "The intimate knowing implied in [yada] is created through the act of sex, not as something that leads to union," Allen says.

A biblical companion to yada is the Greek word "ginosko," says Gresh, which is found in the New Testament. The Bible's original text uses ginosko to describe an "intimate soul connection between a husband and wife in the act of marriage," she says.

But she says the Bible also uses ginosko to describe a deep, intimate connection with God.

Gresh is giving too much weight to these words, Allen says. The fact that these words are used in dual contexts does not imply - or even suggest - the possibility of divinely ordained matches, according to Allen.

Gresh stresses that she does not believe God has intended matches for us. "However, I think there can be a really good theological argument made for exclusivity - once you have found someone you choose to love," she says.
On this point, says Allen, Gresh is on strong scriptural grounds.

A soul mate and a spare

Judaism, meanwhile, specifically includes the concept of soul mates in the Talmud, a collection of writings that constitute Jewish civil and religious laws.

According to the Talmud, before a soul comes into the world it is paired with a bashert, or first match, which is the first soul that you’re supposed to end up with, says Rabbi DovBer Pinson, of the New York-based IYYUN Center for Jewish Spirituality.

“If everything works out you’ll end up with that person,” says Pinson. Jewish tradition also includes a “second match” for every soul, which also could end up as a soul-mate relationship.

The names of everyone’s first and second matches are written down, “We just don’t have access to that information, because they’re written down in the spiritual plane” – or heaven, Pinson says.

The Kabbalistic tradition, rooted in Jewish mysticism, spells out clues to recognize whether your partner is your soul mate. If a partner is helping you overcome your negative traits and negative challenges while helping you pursue your positive traits, that person is your soul mate, says Pinson.

“It means these two souls originate from the same soul root and they’re meant to be connected to each other,” he says.

The Islamic faith, meanwhile, rejects the soul mate concept. "The words 'soul mate,' that you are meant to be with this person forever, there is no concept like this in Islam,” says Imam Mohamed Magid, president of the Islamic Society of North America.

Infinite knowledge allows God to know which partners end up together, but it’s up to people to sustain their marriages and stay together, Magid says, because “the concept of a soul mate in Islam would put the fault of divorce on God."

Are you telling me to 'settle?'

Shaunti Feldhahn and her husband, Jeff, have created their own industry with their popular books, required reading for Christian premarital counselors at thousands of churches.

But she says their marriage, which has produced the million-sellers "For Women Only" and "For Men Only,” was not necessarily preordained.

"If I'd gone to a different graduate school I may have never ended up marrying my husband," she acknowledges. Feldhahn says there probably isn't “one perfect soul mate” for each person. For her, the bottom line is that "whoever you end up with ... God knows what the eventual outcome of your life is going to be."

The flip side of that is God has also given people free will.

“We have every right to screw it up if we want to - and sometimes we do,” Feldhahn says.

However, if couples follow God’s general principles about relationships, it’s possible they can enjoy the same benefits as so-called “soul mates,” she says.

Don’t focus too much on the search for your perfect mate, according to Feldhahn, focus on leading a Christian lifestyle and things will work out fine.

As for Christian Mingle’s “God’s-match-for-you” tagline, Feldhahn says it could mean “Meet the person who’s going to end up being your perfect match - because that's what you're going to make it."

Is Feldhahn telling single folks to stop searching and to “settle” for the best person available?

“No,” she says. “That implies that the person cannot be the person you need. If you both live by God's principles, you will both become the people you need to be.”

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Islam

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  1. __________________

    The only reason CNN prints garbage like this is to give hate-theists an opportunity to vent their bigotry. If you said some of these things about people of color, CNN would ban you for life.

    Bigotry is okay for liberals as long as it's pointed in the right direction.

    January 7, 2012 at 8:31 am |
    • JT

      I think the real problem you and others like you have with the general media when they print stories like this is that they expose the sheer absurdity and oddness of your beliefs. I would be embarrassed too. Afterall, this is 2012!

      January 7, 2012 at 9:16 am |
    • Jesus

      In a way you are correct. We don't ridicule the mentally ill. We just confine them away from society or significantly medicate them. Why pick on the near mentally ill or delusional who believe in an imaginary, invisible, and all controlling friend-in-the-sky? Just deny those delusional folks the vote. That's my solution.

      January 7, 2012 at 9:56 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      ___________________________________

      January 7, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • pdou

      You are absolutely correct. Just look at the responses you got from the hate-theists. One even argues that people of faith should be denied the right to vote.

      January 7, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • Shepherd

      Isn't calling Atheists "hate-theists" and ridiculing them bigotry as well? If you point a finger, make sure you aren't standing in front of a mirror first! Sorry, not everyone shares your beliefs. Believe what you want, just quit trying to shove your belief's down our throats through legislation!

      Answer me this, if the most connected man to your god, the pope, prays for world peace and the prayer goes unanswered, why would your god be concerned with connecting the average Joe and Lucy on-line?

      January 7, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
  2. CHILDREN

    BE NICE TO ONEANOTHER & THE WORLD WILL BE NICE TO YOU

    January 7, 2012 at 8:29 am |
    • Jesus

      Also use lower case type or you'll be considered "not nice".

      January 7, 2012 at 9:57 am |
  3. Reality

    WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!!

    To all us overse-xed h-o-mo-sapiens:

    : The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill ( 8.7% failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute.

    Added information before making your next move:

    from the CDC-2006

    "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

    And from:

    http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/20/yes-or-al-se-x-is-se-x-and-it-can-boost-cancer-risk/?npt=NP1

    "Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

    Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

    "Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'"

    Obviously, Planned Parenthood, parents and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.

    January 7, 2012 at 8:29 am |
    • .........

      Hit report abuse on reality repeat garbage

      January 7, 2012 at 8:33 am |
    • Michael

      The "pill" also changes the outlook of what women are looking for in men. Women on the pill will opt for a man that is not a "husband-type". A woman who wants children should never date while on the pill because it affects her view of the men that she wants to marry.

      January 7, 2012 at 9:41 am |
  4. The Central Scrutinizer

    More Bible fun (warning, this is kind of gross):

    God makes the animals and parades them before Adam to see if any would
    strike his fancy. But none seem to have what it takes to please him.
    (Although he was tempted to go for the sheep.) After making the animals,
    God has Adam name them all. The naming of several million species must
    have kept Adam busy for a while. 2:18-20

    God's clever, talking serpent. 3:1

    God walks and talks (to himself?) in the garden, and plays a little hide
    and seek with Adam and Eve. 3:8-11

    God curses the serpent. From now on the serpent will crawl on his belly
    and eat dust. One wonders how he got around before - by hopping on his
    tail, perhaps? But snakes don't eat dust, do they? 3:14

    God curses the ground and causes thorns and thistles to grow. 3:17-18

    God kills some animals and makes some skin coats for Adam and Eve. 3:21

    Cain is worried after killing Abel and says, "Every one who finds me
    shall slay me." This is a strange concern since there were only two
    other humans alive at the time - his parents! 4:14

    "And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD." 4:16

    "And Cain knew his wife." That's nice, but where the hell did she come
    from? 4:17

    Lamech kills a man and claims that since Cain's murderer would be
    punished sevenfold, whoever murders him will be punished seventy-seven
    fold. That sounds fair. 4:23-24

    God created a man and a woman, and he "called their name Adam." So the
    woman's name was Adam, too! 5:2

    The first men had incredibly long lifespans. 5:5, 5:8, 5:11, 5:14, 5:17,
    5:20, 5:23, 5:27, 5:31, 9:29

    The "sons of God" copulated with the "daughters of men," and had sons
    who became "the mighty men of old, men of renown." 6:2-4

    "There were giants in the earth in those days." 6:4

    January 7, 2012 at 6:46 am |
    • great intellect my ass

      You know less about the Bible than you know about life.

      January 7, 2012 at 8:14 am |
    • me

      Hey thanks for taking the time to give me something to scroll past.

      January 7, 2012 at 8:34 am |
    • Johnnnn

      More...I want more Bible fun! Woohoo, god is sure strange!

      January 7, 2012 at 9:02 am |
    • Michael

      "The Central Scrutinizer" is just a troll with multiple online screen names. The little voices in his head are very active this morning.

      January 7, 2012 at 9:42 am |
    • Jesus

      I want to know what happened to the Book of Giants that was excised from the Bibled or the Infancy Gospels? Both of those books made the story of the guy who lived in a whale not much of stretch in credibily.

      January 7, 2012 at 10:02 am |
    • NolaRocks

      You have throughly entertained me upon waking this morning, thanks!
      Now playoffs this afternoon, WHO DAT!

      January 7, 2012 at 10:13 am |
    • ruemorgue

      Strange, but any other book filled with the as many contradictions and inane statements as the Wholey Babble would be out of print by now. Only Fundies With No Undies keep this silly book as the top best seller. Strange, indeed.

      January 7, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • pirate

      (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

      If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

      January 7, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
    • colonelingus

      Lord, I'd just like to say thank-you for hooking me up with that ditzy blond in Kalamazoo. You know the one. She kept calling out your name over and over!

      January 7, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
    • colonelingus

      Oh God! Oh God! Oh yeah! Oh Yeah! Right there! Oh God! YES!

      January 7, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
  5. Mirosal

    @ CS... no .. no insomnia .. night shift. It's perfect. The big bosses are home asleep, and I can just let my printers run their presses without much supervision. They know what they are doing.

    January 7, 2012 at 6:35 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      Sweet! I couldn't sleep so thought I would watch a movie on Netflix but then got stuck on here. Oh well, it is fun (sometimes).

      January 7, 2012 at 6:38 am |
  6. Mirosal

    @ just sayin .... "The deluge probably happened about the time the continents were formed" ... so the land just popped up, and life began teeming on it. Just like that? all of a sudden? then a 'flood' occured? By your own statement, all life was there at once, humans, dinosaurs, all of it. But, one guy could build a boat to house ALL the animals? He just knew all about shipbuilding, right? even though the continents were just formed?

    January 7, 2012 at 6:22 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      Mirosal
      LOL and good morning. Hope you are not an insomniac like me.

      January 7, 2012 at 6:29 am |
    • just sayin

      Continental drift brought about by the earth being rent when the fountains of the deep erupted. Noah would have already been in the ark when that happened. God gave Noah the instructions and knowledge to build the boat just as God still gives knowledge and discovery to man in all the sciences.

      January 7, 2012 at 9:10 am |
    • wayh

      @just sayin' .... try talking with your mouth next time..... maybe something close to intelligent will come out. The continents were formed many millions of years ago! What did Noah stand on if there were no continents? You should wipe better!

      January 7, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
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    NOW YOU KNOW WHAT ORWELLIAN UNITED STATES CONGRESS(USSR#2) IS SOOO BUSY WHEN PLAYING/CLOWNING(acting) IN FRONT OF CAMERAS ONLY HOW SOMETHING HAVE TO BE DONE(deliberately omitting/delaying facts of genocide as seen on this complain) !!!

    http://myshortbiography.blogspot.com/

    LEARN TRUTH ABOUT UNITED NATIONS, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL AS WELL AS NEW WORLD ORDER(MULTICULTURALISM = TERRORISM) GOVERNMENTS(Equal Employment Opportunity Commission) !!! NOT THERE TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS, BUT TO DENY YOUR RIGHT TO EXISTENCE !!!

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    WHY TO ACCEPT LIABILITIES FOR CRIMES COMMITTED WHEN WE CAN SIMPLY ASSASSINATE OUR VICTIMS(YOU) THANKS TO HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS AND FREE PRESS/MEDIA(most severe censorship of genocide ever !!!)!!

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    January 7, 2012 at 6:11 am |
    • me

      Look everyone. It's the moron above.

      January 7, 2012 at 8:34 am |
    • runner305

      Your post is a MAJOR irritant! I have reported your garbage post, and I'm certain that others have done that as well.

      January 7, 2012 at 8:45 am |
  8. The Central Scrutinizer

    A few more inconsistencies my new on-line date and I can share during our shameful life of lies and deceit:

    God commands us to "be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth,
    and subdue it: and have dominion over ... every living thing that moveth
    upon the earth." This verse is used to justify Christian opposition to
    birth control, to concern for the environment, and to animal rights. The
    earth was made for humans, and they can do as they damn well please with
    it. 1:28

    All animals were originally herbivores. Tapeworms, vampire bats,
    mosquitoes, and barracudas - all were strict vegetarians, as they were
    created by God. But, of course, we now know that there were carnivorous
    animals millions of years before humans existed. 1:30

    I can do this ALL day.

    January 7, 2012 at 5:58 am |
    • just sayin

      This poster does not really want answers to the questions . This must be one sad lonely lost individual with no life and no hope of having a life. Stuck to a keyboard with nothing to do but try to impress a world that really doesn't care.

      January 7, 2012 at 6:15 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      I can do this all day moron. (except when I am watching the playoffs).

      January 7, 2012 at 6:25 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      Oh, and "just sayin"
      If there is ANYTHING going on between your ears, you might notice I am not asking any questions. These are statements. Did you finish grade school?

      January 7, 2012 at 6:28 am |
    • just sayin

      So all the question marks in your postings are just decorations? You ass hole

      January 7, 2012 at 8:16 am |
    • NolaRocks

      Speakin of all day, that's what it's gonna be like Brees on the Lions secondary. ALL DAY. lol

      January 7, 2012 at 10:16 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      just sayin
      They are known as rhetorical questions. You are not expected to reply. Sorry I did not teach you this prior to posting.

      January 7, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
  9. The Central Scrutinizer

    A few inconsistencies my new on-line date and I can share during our shameful life of lies and deceit:

    Genesis
    God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night,
    on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the
    sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). 1:3-5

    God spends one-sixth of his entire creative effort (the second day)
    working on a solid firmament. This strange structure, which God calls
    heaven, is intended to separate the higher waters from the lower waters.
    This firmament, if it existed, would have been quite an obstacle to our
    space program. 1:6-8

    Plants are made on the third day before there was a sun to drive their
    photosynthetic processes (1:14-19). 1:11

    "He made the stars also." God spends a day making light (before making
    the stars) and separating light from darkness; then, at the end of a
    hard day's work, and almost as an afterthought, he makes the trillions
    of stars. 1:16

    "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the
    earth." Really? Then why are only a tiny fraction of stars visible from
    earth? Under the best conditions, no more than five thousand stars are
    visible from earth with the unaided eye, yet there are hundreds of
    billions of stars in our galaxy and a hundred billion or so galaxies.
    Yet this verse says that God put the stars in the firmament "to give
    light" to the earth. 1:17

    January 7, 2012 at 5:49 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      Before you say, wow CS, God was a real moron.....no he wasn't, the men who wrote the words were. God does not exist as it is understood by Christians, Muslims and Jews.

      January 7, 2012 at 5:54 am |
    • just sayin

      Check your Hebrew for correct wording. God made all things to work together to provide light. Think it through, if you removed a galaxy what would happen to everything else. It is created on a scale beyond our imaginings and it all works with exact precision and timing. If you moved earth one orbit towards the sun or one orbit away we would be either too hot or too cold to sustain the life we have here now.

      January 7, 2012 at 6:03 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      Actually just sayin,
      True, the Earth is in the Habitable zone, and we can exist here. You seem to discount all the many other life possibilites in this and perhaps many other Universes. They may or may not live in a similar zone relative to their planets and there is most likely much exotic live with no interst in your God.

      Having said that, we exist because it is POSSIBLE for us to exist. Out of all the infinate possiblilites in all the time and space of forever, we are a possibility and therefore we are here. Many things exist because they can.

      This is far deeper than I expected to go when I was only attempting to point out how completely stupid the Bible it, but whatever.

      January 7, 2012 at 6:11 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      P.S. just sayin
      The sun is the only thing lights are planet. You do understand that don't you?

      January 7, 2012 at 6:14 am |
    • just sayin

      That would be "our" planet and things change, but as posted elsewhere you really are not interested in answers to the questions you pose. You revel in ignorance you do understand that don't you?

      January 7, 2012 at 6:20 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      Just sayin
      You are trying my patience now but I will reply. You are really arguing typo-s? It is 3:30am, I don't care if I mis-spell a WERD.
      Second, what question did I ask? I don't follow you.
      What do you mean things change? What changes? The Sun? Huh?

      January 7, 2012 at 6:34 am |
    • NolaRocks

      Just sayin: Speakin for myself I'll respect your opinions/beliefs. However, not to sound like a CS groupie, he made you his b**ch this mornin lol

      January 7, 2012 at 10:21 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      justsayin, your silly assumptions about why we are living on this planet are hilarious. Have you not read of the discovery of other planets with similarities to ours? Planets that could support life-forms? How long do you think it will be before we discover a planet inhabited by intelligent forms of life? What are you going to say then? This planet wasn't 'made' to accommodate us-WE adapted to survive here. The reason humans are living is because of the evolution of species that could live in this atmosphere.

      Really, do you people ever take science classes in school?

      January 7, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • pirate

      There is no end to evil quotes by this invisible man in the sky for any that have actually studied the bible in its entirety.

      (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

      If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

      What a sick god you guys have!!! Force the victim to marry the rapist!!!

      January 7, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • pirate

      Quoting my favorite site again, evil bible daht kom.. What a complete, eloquent, logical, and well thought out summary of the lunacy called the bible!----

      Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

      10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

      9 – You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

      8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

      7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

      6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

      5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

      4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs - though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

      3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

      2 – You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

      1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.

      January 7, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
  10. The Central Scrutinizer

    A few inconsistancies me and my new on-line date can share during our shameful life of lies and deciet:A few inconsistencies my new on-line date and I can share during our shameful life of lies and deceit:

    Genesis
    God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night,
    on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the
    sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). 1:3-5

    God spends one-sixth of his entire creative effort (the second day)
    working on a solid firmament. This strange structure, which God calls
    heaven, is intended to separate the higher waters from the lower waters.
    This firmament, if it existed, would have been quite an obstacle to our
    space program. 1:6-8

    Plants are made on the third day before there was a sun to drive their
    photosynthetic processes (1:14-19). 1:11

    "He made the stars also." God spends a day making light (before making
    the stars) and separating light from darkness; then, at the end of a
    hard day's work, and almost as an afterthought, he makes the trillions
    of stars. 1:16

    "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the
    earth." Really? Then why are only a tiny fraction of stars visible from
    earth? Under the best conditions, no more than five thousand stars are
    visible from earth with the unaided eye, yet there are hundreds of
    billions of stars in our galaxy and a hundred billion or so galaxies.
    Yet this verse says that God put the stars in the firmament "to give
    light" to the earth. 1:17

    January 7, 2012 at 5:48 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      Brain...not....working....please disregard......post.....

      January 7, 2012 at 5:50 am |
    • just sayin

      Jesus Christ was the light before the sun and will be the light when the sun is gone. Book of the Revelation. The world we now see is not the same as created, God opened the "windows" of heaven and poured out the water upon the earth at one time. At the same time the earth beneath burst forth with the fountains of the deep. What you see today is the result of that cataclysm. Noahs flood was a much more dramatic and earth changing event than most people realize.

      January 7, 2012 at 5:56 am |
    • Mirosal

      So when exactly did that little deluge happen?

      January 7, 2012 at 6:01 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      @just sayin
      I live in THIS world. We like to call it reality. Please say Hi to your doctors for me. Make sure you don't skip your medications. The playoffs start today!

      January 7, 2012 at 6:02 am |
    • just sayin

      You asked you were told. If you want to be ignorant do not bother to ask.
      The deluge probably happened about the time the continents were formed we are not given calendar specifics. Even science cannot pin down the exact age of the earth yet. We have moved from thousands to millions to billions of years on the scale of theories in the last couple hundred years. At the end of the day does it matter, that we know when?

      January 7, 2012 at 6:11 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      just sayin
      There may have been a flood. Science supports theories for various events at different times in different regions throughout the course of history, but nothing is proven and certainly nothing is of a global scale. You don't seem to appreciate the Science of Geology. Too bad. The age of the Earth is 4.54 billion years (4.54 × 109 years ± 1%). This age is based on evidence from radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples. Following the scientific revolution and the development of radiometric age dating, measurements of lead in uranium-rich minerals showed that some were in excess of a billion years old.

      More nonsense from the Bible:

      Later (8:21), after he kills everything, he promises never to do
      it again because the human imagination is evil. Go figure. 6:5

      God repents. 6:6-7

      God was angry because "the earth was filled with violence." But didn't
      God create the whole bloody system in the first place? Predator and
      prey, parasite and host - weren't they all designed by God? Oh, it's
      true that according to 1:30 God originally intended the animals to be
      vegetarian. But later (3:18) he changed all that. Still, the violence
      that angered God was of his own making. So what was he upset about? And
      how would killing everything help to make the world less violent? Did he
      think the animals would behave better after he "destroys them with the
      earth"? I guess God works in mysterious ways. 6:11-13

      God tells Noah to make one small window (18 inches square) in the 450
      foot ark for ventilation. 6:16

      Noah, the just and righteous. 6:9, 7:1

      Noah, the drunk and naked. 9:20-21

      God opens the "windows of heaven." He does this every time it rains.
      7:11

      "The windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was
      restrained." This happens whenever it stops raining. 8:2

      Noah sends a dove out to see if there was any dry land. But the dove
      returns without finding any. Then, just seven days later, the dove goes
      out again and returns with an olive leaf. But how could an olive tree
      survive the flood? And if any seeds happened to survive, they certainly
      wouldn't germinate and grow leaves within a seven day period. 8:8-11

      Noah kills the "clean beasts" and burns their dead bodies for God.
      According to 7:8 this would have caused the extinction of all "clean"
      animals since only two of each were taken onto the ark. "And the Lord
      smelled a sweet savor." After this God "said in his heart" that he'd
      never do it again because "man's heart is evil from his youth." So God
      killed all living things (6:5) because humans are evil, and then
      promises not to do it again (8:21) because humans are evil. The mind of
      God is a frightening thing. 8:20-21

      According to this verse, all animals fear humans. Although it is true
      that many do, it is also true that some do not. Sharks and grizzly
      bears, for example, are generally much less afraid of us than we are of
      them. 9:2

      January 7, 2012 at 6:22 am |
    • Johnnnn

      Excellant, if not a little obtuse stuff! The Bible is SO ASKING to be scrutinized and debunked.....and Christian's humiliated.

      January 7, 2012 at 9:22 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      justsayin, you asked whether it matters if we know the age of Earth. Apparently, it doesn't matter to you whether you know facts or not. It matters to me. I don't want fairy tales and magic. I want to understand as much as possible.

      Good thing there are many people who feel the same way. Otherwise, we'd still be suffering and dying from diseases like "childbed fever"(because you'd think it wasn't important to know about bacteria and viruses and how they cause illness to be transmitted). We'd still be unable to go anywhere we couldn't walk (because it wouldn't be important to understand combustion engines).

      We'd never have discovered the world wasn't flat (because it wouldn't be important to know there were other continents).

      January 7, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • pirate

      Hey just sayin, your jeebus sure sounds like a racist pig to me!

      Matthew 15:21-28

      Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession."
      Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."

      He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

      The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said.

      He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."

      "Yes, Lord," she said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table."

      Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
      -----
      Yes – calling someone of a different race a dog, yeah, great role model!

      January 7, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Pray without ceasing in 2012

    January 7, 2012 at 5:48 am |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      I know that “Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things“ never replies to anyone (rude) but none the less, I am compelled from boredom to ask a few questions. If it suits you praybie, please reply.

      1. When you say that Atheism in not healthy for children AND other living things, does that mean that children must be present for Atheism to be unhealthy? If there are no children, is Atheism healthy for other living things? Also, is this a mental or physical health issue you are concerned about, and where did you find this information? I assume then that all creatures on all worlds, if they exist, are also adversely affected by Atheism, correct? Even if per chance they worship some other God besides the one you may or may not be referring to. You never actually state that religion is healthy, just prayer. Therefore, can you kindly explain what God is requiring this prayer so that we can all direct our prayers to the correct God?

      2. Prayer changes things

      Ok. The obvious question is what things does it change. Does it change things for the better or for the worse? Are you leading us down a blind alley here? Knowing what things it changes would be useful for those of us not familiar with the inherent value of prayer.

      3. The wonder of God is revealed in the discourse of prayer.

      Ok. By discourse are you claiming that we should all being have a conversation with God? Does God talk to you? If it is so easy, why doesn’t he just have town hall meetings and tell us what he wants, or ask us what we want. Or give us his email address. I prefer texting and email. When you say the “wonder” of god, do you mean you can see him, or feel him or what? I don’t get it. Did he touch you inappropriately? Tell the police, don’t let it go.

      4. Prayer is the life blood of the repentant sinner

      Are you a vampire? I knew there was some dark lord s.h.i.t going on here. Isn’t blood the life blood? How does one convert prayer to blood and then how does that circulate in our bodies exactly? Or do the prayers actually live in our circulatory systems? Now that would be weird. Please let us all know. What if we are not sinners? If I am a sinner and repent, why do I have to keep praying? What is the point of repenting and then having to keep doing the whole friggin’ thing all over again day in and day out?

      5. Prayer really changes things

      When you add “really” to the sentence, does that mean that you weren’t as sure earlier but now you feel more confident in prayer? Did it not “really” change things in your first line? Are you just teasing us? Prayer might just change things…..ok just kidding, it REALLY changes things, just playing around a little, my bad.

      Can’t wait to hear what you have to say on this.

      Oh one last thing, when you say to pray ceaselessly in 2012 umm….are you serious about that? When I am sleeping? When I am fuk'n, when am working… I mean I have to constantly pray? How can I keep my job? Please clarify, this just seems dam unreasonable to me.

      January 7, 2012 at 5:51 am |
    • Johnnnn

      Luck changes things, work changes things, focus and determination changes everything while prayer co-opts all of those and tries to make it it's own; which without luck, work and focus is just egotistical self-talk.

      January 7, 2012 at 9:24 am |
  12. AtheistSteve

    Who knew? All this time I've been saying 'yada yada yada' without any idea what it really meant. Back about 10 years ago I tried using a few dating sites like Match and PlentyofFish. Most times things didn't progress past online chatting. Several first time dates only and a couple who I dated for a few months. I wasn't interested in just hooking up, which is what most of the guys trolling these sites seemed bent on, and the women I chatted with were appropriately wary about this. I'd bet this Xtian site has its fair share of those too. But in the end the girl I ended up with was one I met the old fashioned way. Through introduction by friends.
    Hearing the Christian Mingle ads on CNN usually sets my teeth on edge and I've even toyed with the idea of trolling the site, pretending to be a believer and leading some poor lady on for a while before dumping my atheism on her, but that's just cruel and I don't really have it in me to purposely hurt people who don't have it coming.

    January 7, 2012 at 5:33 am |
    • captain america

      Dump is the right term when speaking of a canadian trying to take a dump on American values . Why don't you just keep your atheist bull sh it in canada which you have already screwed up. There's your sign

      January 7, 2012 at 5:38 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      @CA: This is the wrong outlet for you...I think you're looking for the FOX news network-you know the one filled with mythical believers and hateful idiots (kinda like you), not the CNN network where rational minded people get their news from.

      January 7, 2012 at 6:49 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      Ah Steve, I love you too :-) You really are the best and life just wouldn't be the same without you. PS: sorry for getting you sick.

      January 7, 2012 at 6:51 am |
    • captain america

      Sick is a good description of these butt in canadians.There's your sign

      January 7, 2012 at 8:18 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      @CA: once again, this is CNN not FOX...you belong there not here (there's your sign goofy and btw: we're still here you delusional waste of human flesh)

      January 7, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • captain america

      No we are here, America you are there, canada. Where and what you are is nothing to us but third world lackeys. Ship us your resources and shut the f up. There's your sign

      January 7, 2012 at 8:32 am |
    • TRH

      captain america:

      I'm American and I think YOU are a twit.

      January 7, 2012 at 10:01 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Anytime you see a post from somebody who doesn't think cappy's a twit, you can bet it was written by cappy using one of his sock puppets.

      January 7, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • pirate

      Captain America, you are very unAmerican, blanket accusations of everyone in a whole country, well, simply put, thats childish and ignorant. I was born and raised in America and I think you are a twit too.

      January 7, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
  13. AdmrlAckbar

    Please CNN! Let me in on your polarized "belief" web traffic cash scam!

    January 7, 2012 at 4:10 am |
  14. jaxon

    Most Christian ministries/offerings slap "thus saith the lord..." on it and it is so. A "soulmate", with the divorce rate in the church/US today may be more of a fallacy. I do believe there are mental and physical bonds that are stronger between couples. Yet it seems there is a certain amount of work needed to keep a marriage together.

    January 7, 2012 at 4:07 am |
    • Jesus

      If you need to "work" on making the marriage work, GET A DIVORCE. A good relationship means that each partner is naturally supportive and helpful and satisfying to the other. If you've got to "work" on being a supportive partner, maybe marriage shouldn't be your way of life. .

      January 7, 2012 at 10:09 am |
  15. oh please

    you fools....This is a PERFECT Examples of how religions are all flawed and false.

    Gods plan.....really? Look- Youre using TECHNOLOGY.....SCIENCE.....to dictate Gods plan.....dont you realize how sincerely contradictory this is to "God"? how blasphemous it is? god doesnt exist....No God does. But for you to believe in "God" and then use SCIENCE to direct gods plan is utterly foul and wicked and against God. How about growing up and realizing there is only US....No god, no God(s). Just us.....and deal with it.

    January 7, 2012 at 3:58 am |
    • AdmrlAckbar

      Wow ..such amazing quantifiable empirical evidence to back up your opinions! .. Or well guess I'll take it on faith...

      January 7, 2012 at 4:04 am |
    • Entertained Tyler

      how can you disprove something that "is outside the laws of the universe".

      January 7, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • pirate

      Entertained: Disproving the god of the bible is easy. I quote my favorite site again, evil bible daht kom:

      God is perfectly just, and yet he sentences the imperfect humans he created to infinite suffering in hell for finite sins. Clearly, a limited offense does not warrant unlimited punishment. God's sentencing of the imperfect humans to an eternity in hell for a mere mortal lifetime of sin is infinitely more unjust than this punishment. The absurd injustice of this infinite punishment is even greater when we consider that the ultimate source of human imperfection is the God who created them. A perfectly just God who sentences his imperfect creation to infinite punishment for finite sins is impossible.

      January 7, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
  16. MsMello

    I found mine on Match.com. If I had not or if for whatever reason I found myself back out there I would use the site because it gives a basis to start from. I believe I was meant to find the person I found on Match and was lead to him by a higher power. I have never seen the commercial but the positive aspect of the site would be a starting point of similiar values. Everyone has their own beliefs and I respect that.

    January 7, 2012 at 3:58 am |
    • Jesus

      I love these match type websites. What a great way to hook up and try out new people in the sack. That and looks and personality are a pre-requisite to moving forward with a "relationship". Too many evangelicals think that everyone is the same in bed...NOT TRUE!! The differences can make a lifetime of intimacy a duty versus an absolute pleasure. Try lots of different people 'til you hit on a great match.

      January 7, 2012 at 10:31 am |
  17. kamana

    Jesus certainly wasn't interested in a female soul mate. His contact with females were fleeting, to say the least. He spent most of his time with males.

    The human males number one enemy, number one target, and number one victim has always been, and will always be, the human female. We hate them because they don't need us for anything: not for our sperm, not for our so-called 'protection', not for our intellect, and not for our labor either. All the women and their children ever needed was food and shelter.

    January 7, 2012 at 3:57 am |
    • xnay

      Please seek professional help

      January 7, 2012 at 4:06 am |
    • K D

      That's actually a pretty insightful comment!

      January 7, 2012 at 4:08 am |
    • Mirosal

      ok, so then, jesus was gay ... right? Makes sense ... that land wasn't too far from Greece, and we all know about THAT culture don't we? And the gospels were writen in Greek, were they not? I know Luke's was. So your savoir was a pole-smoker, or a rump-ranger?

      January 7, 2012 at 5:55 am |
  18. Jimmy Skins

    christian mingle is so gee ay why. santorum!!!

    January 7, 2012 at 3:50 am |
  19. tallulah13

    I just mute the TV when those commercials come one. I do the same when commercials for that show about the over breeding Duggars are on, too.

    Frankly, I think it makes sense for some people who wish to marry to use one of these sites. I don't think god has anything to do with it. Just common interests.

    January 7, 2012 at 3:01 am |
  20. Mirosal

    I've seen the ads. I wonder if a gay or les.bian who is a Christian would be able ot even use the site. Or, would the usual X-tian prejudices kick in and reject their membership?

    January 7, 2012 at 2:45 am |
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