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Survey: U.S. Protestant pastors reject evolution, split on Earth's age
January 10th, 2012
04:18 PM ET

Survey: U.S. Protestant pastors reject evolution, split on Earth's age

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

America’s Protestant pastors overwhelmingly reject the theory of evolution and are evenly split on whether the earth is 6,000 years old, according to a survey released Monday by the Southern Baptist Convention.

When asked if “God used evolution to create people," 73% of pastors disagreed - 64% said they strongly disagreed - compared to 12% who said they agree.

Asked whether the earth is approximately 6,000 years old, 46% agreed, compared to 43% who disagreed.

A movement called Young Earth creationism promotes the 6,000-year-old figure, arguing that it is rooted in the Bible. Scientists say the earth is about 4.5 billion years old.

The Southern Baptist Convention survey, which queried 1,000 American Protestant pastors, also found that 74% believe the biblical Adam and Eve were literal people.

“Recently discussions have pointed to doubts about a literal Adam and Eve, the age of the earth and other origin issues," said Ed Stetzer, president of LifeWay Research, a division of the Southern Baptist Convention, in a report on LifeWay’s site. “But Protestant pastors are overwhelmingly Creationists and believe in a literal Adam and Eve.”

The phone survey was conducted in May 2011, sampling ministers from randomly selected Protestant churches. The survey had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percent, LifeWay said.

A 2010 Gallup poll found that 40% of Americans believe God created humans in their present form, versus 54% who said humans developed over millions of years.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Christianity • Science

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  1. pomas

    Who does it hurt if one believes one way or the other. Some people feel that it's better to believe and find out there's nothing , than not to believe and find out there is.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:21 am |
    • cw

      It hurts humanity as a whole to have such ignorance. The stories of Adam and Eve and the idea that the world is 6,000 years old are idiotic at best. They were never meant to be taken literally.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:23 am |
    • I'm The Best!

      It hurts the children who could have done something better with their lives had they not been dumbed down by religious falsities

      January 11, 2012 at 9:24 am |
    • cmdvimes

      Evolution denial is a hallmark feature of people who follow an anti-education, anti-science and anti-American agenda. There is no room for biblical absurdities in the 21st century.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:37 am |
    • Lacking Evidence since 14 Billion BCE

      Don't come crying when your flu shot doesn't work each year.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:37 am |
  2. Shawneen

    I wonder, what are the odds of someone who has not already made up their mind about creationism actually being open to evidence that refutes it? I have only two problems with creationism as a theory. One, those studying it seem incapable of any arriving at any other conclusion for their "evidence". In science, the theory has to be open to other explanations, and the conclusion has to be open to the idea of revision if the evidence suggests it. Therefore, by definition, it is not science. Please refrain in the future from trying to couch it in scientific terms in an attempt to convey the idea that it is a scientific model. Two, why are all of the models only open to the Christian view of how it happened? If you want to teach it in public schools, it belongs in review of religious faiths and so all of the available faiths should be examined, not just your favorite. The answer to both of these is that you simply want the public schools to promote your personal religious beliefs I agree that it should be available under the heading of world religions, to be reviewed and discussed, but I suspect creationist (which is really creationism) wouldn't be open to these terms. Which is a shame really, the world needs more religious tolerance, not shame scientific theories.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:21 am |
    • Bob in LG

      But you are assuming you are dealing with rational people not those given to the supernatural.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:23 am |
    • Brian the T

      "...what are the odds of someone who has not already made up their mind about creationism actually being open to evidence that refutes it?"

      In my experience....almost nil. This is why Creationism/ID isn't even a scientific stance, let alone any sort of "theory." Not only does it provide no explanations, but it is not even falsifiable. Your run-of-the-mill Creationist/IDer will simply ignore any and all evidence against intelligent design and fall back to a "well we don't know why there are all these funky and bad designs everywhere but god still did it we just don't know why or how yet blah blah blah."

      January 11, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Brian the T

      BTW you brought up another excellent point. Funny how all the Creationists/IDers I've talked to deduce from their "Creationism is teh Truth" that "Jesus is Lawd." Wow!!! How does THAT follow?!?! I mean, even if I granted the existence of some "intelligent designer", now they're telling me it's Jesus?!?! But why not Allah??? Or Thor? Or Odin? Or....well you get the point. NO!!! It's ALWAYS the God THEY happen to believe in, isn't it???

      January 11, 2012 at 10:48 am |
  3. Shepherdguy

    As a Protestant pastor, in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, one of the larger mainstream Protestant denominations, I can assure you that this study is total hogwash. I would love to know how their sample was selected, and what their definition of "Protestant" is. What states were the pastors located in? What were their ages? I suspect that they called a carefully selected list of Evangelical pastors, many of whom are in traditions that have very little to do with the churches that grew up out of the Reformation. I suspect they called a bunch of Baptists and Pentecostals, with a few Southern Methodists for good measure. Without that information, this "study" is meaningless. A scientific sampling requires careful selection by geography, denomination, age, gender, education, etc. But then, the current fundamentalist regime in the Southern Baptist Convention has such a hatred of science and scholarship that they probably would laugh at the notion of a "scientific" anything....

    January 11, 2012 at 9:20 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Shepherdguy
      I would hazard a guess that you're correct.
      You'll note that the poll was conducted by "a division of the Southern Baptist Convention" – so their bias is quite blatant.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:28 am |
    • Jean Luc

      Congratulations Pastor....In trying to show how hip you are, you threw a large part of Christ's church under the bus. I guess you don't read His high priestly prayer very often...you know that whole thing about unity within the church. I guess it doesn't matter as long as slamming other denominations shows how utterly clever you are.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:36 am |
    • cmdvimes

      Kudos to you Shepherdguy. The problem with liberal interpretation of scripture is that it normalizes the behavior of extremists. It is up to you and other like-minded pastors to strongly denounce the pastors who promote the anti-science agenda.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:41 am |
    • AndyInAtl

      What's the point of being a pastor, if you don't believe about what's in the Bible? Isn't it better to fold, and then turn your divinity degree into some kind of phsycobabble therapist job?

      January 11, 2012 at 10:11 am |
  4. Andy

    Well after reading these posts it's safe to say 7 out of 10 are intelligent and sane! The other 3 are just plain stupid! Stupid is what stupid does! religion = STUPID!

    January 11, 2012 at 9:19 am |
    • Rhubarb

      Andy's not stupid ! He can't even quote a famous movie line correctly, but he's not stupid. So kind, loving, obviously tolerant of beliefs other than his own. It's an HONOR to be in the presence of such intelligence, such greatness.

      How advanced.

      January 11, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
  5. Rodeo_Joe

    Stupid is as Stupid does.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:19 am |
  6. sequoia

    I really feel sorry for people who think ancient Middle Eastern myths are real. It's sad.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:18 am |
    • volleydan

      What I feel sorry for is a world where people feel the need to go out of their way to hunt down blogs about religion just so they can denigrate the beliefs of others.

      Whether you believe in Christianity or not, the simple concept of respect for others would seem to dictate that you simply pursue your interests rather than taking time out of your day to write insulting messages on the internet.....

      January 11, 2012 at 9:49 am |
  7. ru4real

    Windstorms signalled the wrath of the gods to ignorant believers of long ago. Current day bible babble keeps the tradition alive.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:17 am |
  8. MrObstat

    Please check out The atheist's guide to reality : enjoying life without illusions / Alex Rosenberg. Rosenberg is chairman of the Duke philosophy department. Join the "happy nihilists".

    Please check out the new book by Richard Dawkins aimed at teens and post-teens - The Magic Of Reality: How We Know What's Really True. Check out anything by Dawkins - The Greatest Show on Earth: the Evidence for Evolution is a recent addition to his publishing empire.

    I enjoy creation myths about Zeus, God, Spider Woman, The great Dreamtime, and other ancient effluvia as much as the next fellow. Who doesn't enjoy a good, riproaring story? We are genetically primed to create and enjoy these myths.

    It is pathetic that these pastors are profiting from delusions and illusions - not morally wrong but simply pathetic and pitiable.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:16 am |
    • Rhubarb

      FACT: There is NOT ONE published scientific paper which explains the origin of life based on Darwinian concepts. Zero. You will not find one. Logically, if science cannot explain the origin of life, it cannot accurately explain its progression.

      Conversely, my King James Bible explains the creation of the universe (translation: One Word) very clearly. It is inerrant, infallible, has never been proven wrong and never will be proven wrong. Not a single scientific textbook ever written can make the same claim.

      Try to think about this honestly, without bias or prejudice.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:41 am |
    • Primewonk

      Rhubarb wrote, " There is NOT ONE published scientific paper which explains the origin of life based on Darwinian concepts.

      Your problem is that you confuse and confound evolution and abiogenesis. Two different fields. Two different domains.

      January 11, 2012 at 10:40 am |
  9. Donn E

    Well it's about time all religions WAKE-UP! I have never seen a Monkey or APE build a Sky Scrapper-Roads-Auto- be a Doctor etc? If we were from APES or MONKEYS why are they still here? DUH! GOD CREATED use PERIOD! Just as most all say GOD- JESUS- HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE? How STUPID CAN ONE GET? Yes, GOD can do anything for he is the CREATOR. He plained as follows = GOD CREATOR JESUS is his son = 2 then the HOLY SPIRIT = 3 not all in one HELLO! AMEN

    January 11, 2012 at 9:16 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      Well that was a rambling load of nonsense, thank you.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:19 am |
    • MarkinFL

      I think perhaps a couple of hundred monkeys on typewriters given say an hour or so could have come up with a better argument than the one posted above.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:23 am |
    • A4mrtheist

      Donne E is typical of the dumb, illiterate followers of religion and the reason it will eventually die out. Blindly following without thinking things through.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • Jason

      I dont think you understand the theory of evolution Donn E.... First go study it a bit and you might come to realize how rediculous you sound.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • gnodges

      Donn, It's clear that you've swallowed every bit of religious disinformation that has ever been fed to you............Here's an idea.....study the theory of evoloution (which you clearly have not), and then try an make a rational judgement for once in your life. BTW, Apes/Monkeys shared a common ancestor, and then we diverged, that is why both exist today in their current form.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:25 am |
  10. Don in Houston

    The rejection of scientific inquiry in the U.S. in recent years is astounding. These prevailing view of these ministers and pastors is symtomatic of our educational deficit. The church would rather spread its mythical dogma than have a real discussion. Religion - all religion - is the enemy of science.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:16 am |
    • Mike

      Francis Bacon (hopefully I don't have to explain who he was to someone so fond of science?) believed that there were "two books" of revelation – The Bible and Nature. He saw it as his goal as a scientist and philosopher to study nature to learn more about God. His contributions to the scientific method were outstanding. He was a great man of science and also a man of God. He is just one of the countless examples of the fathers of science and mathematics who believed (Descartes, Kepler, Pascal, Boyle, Planck to just name a couple). Still today you find many inspired to science through their faith, you find many turned to faith by open and honest thought through their science. Nah, Christianity isn't the faith of backwards people who despise science. It would almost seem to me that most of those appalled at this survey aren't approaching this with a scientific mind – they'd rather completely close their mind to any possibility that any theory of origins other than the one they were taught and grabbed hold of is wrong. So they hurl insults, presume science and faith are incongruous. I would imagine that most of the posters here haven't looked at the facts on either side, just take the bits and pieces they have heard and jump on the bandwagon of the big-bang for cosmological origins and primordial soup to evolution for life's origins. Sounds like faith to me. The very thing that these people most detest those with religious faith for. Ironic... Reminds me of Nobel Prize winner Francis Crick. He co-discovered the double helix structure of DNA and as he discovered this and how/what DNA did, he found his faith in evolution shaky at the time.. His answer? Directed Panspermia... Obviously Aliens pollinated earth with the "seeds" necessary for life, because he found Christianity so detestable... I believe he ultimately went back on that theory when it was laughable and some new discoveries allowed him to pinch his nose and accept evolution once again. I think his story is a great illustration of where most folks hearts are on this one... This is not a mind problem, it isn't a "we are superior intellectually to those Christians" situation as most posters here would like to think.. It is a heart problem. The solution you are employing to this heart problem is faith. Faith in what you were taught some time ago about evolution. I say read a Bible if you want to critique it. Learn about some of the evidences the folks who believe in creationism/ID use – the majority of the evidences are extra-Biblical, by the way, study what you yourself believe. Look at Darwin's finch example you were taught in school (Finches with different beaks and different body shapes.... Does that prove evolution? You started with finches, you have ended with finches...) that adaptation or speciation doesn't contradict anything Biblical, in fact the Bible allows for it quite well when it talked about "kinds being created after their own kinds" – species.

      Anyway.. Do your research and open your mind a bit. It isn't as cut and dried as you think it is...

      January 11, 2012 at 9:43 am |
    • Mike

      Francis Bacon (hopefully I don't have to explain who he was to someone so fond of science?) believed that there were "two books" of revelation – The Bible and Nature. He saw it as his goal as a scientist and philosopher to study nature to learn more about God. His contributions to the scientific method were outstanding. He was a great man of science and also a man of God. He is just one of the countless examples of the fathers of science and mathematics who believed (Descartes, Kepler, Pascal, Boyle, Planck to just name a couple). Still today you find many inspired to science through their faith, you find many turned to faith by open and honest thought through their science. Nah, Christianity isn't the faith of backwards people who despise science. It would almost seem to me that most of those appalled at this survey aren't approaching this with a scientific mind – they'd rather completely close their mind to any possibility that any theory of origins other than the one they were taught and grabbed hold of is wrong. So they hurl insults, presume science and faith are incongruous. I would imagine that most of the posters here haven't looked at the facts on either side, just take the bits and pieces they have heard and jump on the bandwagon of the big-bang for cosmological origins and primordial soup to evolution for life's origins. Sounds like faith to me. The very thing that these people most detest those with religious faith for. Ironic... Reminds me of Nobel Prize winner Francis Crick. He co-discovered the double helix structure of DNA and as he discovered this and how/what DNA did, he found his faith in evolution shaky at the time.. His answer? Directed Panspermia... Obviously Aliens pollinated earth with the "seeds" necessary for life, because he found Christianity so detestable... I believe he ultimately went back on that theory when it was laughable and some new discoveries allowed him to pinch his nose and accept evolution once again. I think his story is a great illustration of where most folks hearts are on this one... This is not a mind problem, it isn't a "we are superior intellectually to those Christians" situation as most posters here would like to think.. It is a heart problem. The solution you are employing to this heart problem is faith. Faith in what you were taught some time ago about evolution. I say read a Bible if you want to critique it. Learn about some of the evidences the folks who believe in creationism/ID use – the majority of the evidences are extra-Biblical, by the way, study what you yourself believe. Look at Darwin's finch example you were taught in school (Finches with different beaks and different body shapes.... Does that prove evolution? You started with finches, you have ended with finches...) that adaptation or speciation doesn't contradict anything Biblical, in fact the Bible allows for it quite well when it talked about "kinds being created after their own kinds" – species.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:43 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      You actually believe that nonsense dont you mike? that science helps prove creationism/ID? too funny.
      At the end of the day, the whole argument for the creationist side of events is.....it was magic. That is what belief in a god is, with his spell casting words to create things. ......it was magic, nothing more. nothing less.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:47 am |
  11. Rosslaw

    Now that that's settled, we can now turn to the heated "round earth-flat earth" controversy.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:15 am |
    • Mike

      I would love to discuss the round earth flat earth question. The Bible has always described the earth as a sphere. It has described it as "suspended in space" (Job 26:7) The word for circle or sphere is used quite a few times throughout the Bible to describe the earth. The book of Job, by the way, is one of the oldest written works we have access to. Whether you are a Bible believer or a secular scholar, this fact is true – both camps agree. So at a time when many believed in a flat earth, the Bible once again was right on the science of a question...

      The sanitation procedures described in the Old Testament book would have saved many lives from infection during the days of early medicine. The process described for dealing with infectious disease would have likely lessened the impact of the plague...

      When the Bible speaks or influences science, it is worth listening.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:50 am |
    • Rhubarb

      Mike –

      Well put and all True.

      January 11, 2012 at 10:03 am |
  12. Max in NY

    The church also didn't accept the Sun being at the center of our solar system....so....I dont care what they think.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:14 am |
  13. SDH

    These 40% of Americans (also called Republicans), are the dumbest people on Earth.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:14 am |
    • Kenny

      SNAP!

      January 11, 2012 at 9:34 am |
    • Rhubarb

      SDH – Such a kind, loving, inclusive, TOLERANT statement ! Are you "also called 'Democrat' "?

      January 11, 2012 at 9:46 am |
  14. David Johnson

    Evolution, with its evidence of transitional fossils, geological column, DNA evidence, vestigial organs etc., is very damning to the biblical Creation Story.

    If god created all the organisms on the planet, then He must have created even the diseases that have caused and are causing so much death and misery for humans and animals. He would have had to fashion the tick and the flea. The mosquito and blood flukes. And worms that bore into a child's eye.

    How could an all good god do such a thing? Why would He spend His time creating gruesome things to cause human suffering? Yet, these horrors exist. And if god didn't create them, who did?

    Evolution explains the diversity of the planet's organisms, including the pathogens and the parasites that have caused so much human death and misery.
    If the Creation Story is a fable, then Adam and Eve did not exist.

    If Adam and Eve did not exist, then there was no original sin.

    If there was no original sin, then it cannot be the reason god allows so much suffering in the world. Instead, there are natural causes for earthquakes and floods and other disasters.

    If there was no original sin, then there was no need for a redeemer.

    If there was no redeemer, then Christianity is a based on a false premise.

    "If we cannot believe in the First Adam, why believe in the Last [Christ]?" 1 Corinthians15:45

    If the Creation story is a myth, then there is no reason to believe any of the bible, for the entire bible is based on Genesis.

    If we evolved, there is no soul –> no afterlife –> no need of a heaven or hell.

    LOL, which is why the Creationists fight so hard against evolution. And why many Christians are reinterpreting Genesis to encompass an old earth. Their reasoning is that everyone before them, interpreted the Creation Week, incorrectly. *snicker*
    Let's see... "And there was evening and there was morning, one day." – Umm... That's millions of years to you and me!

    The Christian god is no more likely to exist than unicorns, satyrs, fiery serpents, or talking snakes, or Allah, or Zeus or Santa. And you don't believe in any of those, Right? If I post Krishna is a myth, you wouldn't post back that, that cannot be proven.

    The reason why we can find no empirical evidence for God's existence is not because "God is a magical being completely able to hide from us." It is because God is imaginary.

    Cheers!

    January 11, 2012 at 9:12 am |
    • Truth

      How do you explain Bible prophecy then?

      January 11, 2012 at 9:24 am |
    • however comma

      The reason evolution remains a "theory" is that it cannot be definitively proven. The biggest hurdle, as I'm sure you know, is there is no explanation for how life began in this theory. If all life evolved, how did it start? Don't worry, the most brilliant minds in science can't figure it out either.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:24 am |
    • MarkinFL

      Simple, its bunk.

      It can be interpreted to match almost any series of events and frequently is.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:27 am |
    • A4mrtheist

      Great post. If only the world had more thinkers like you.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      No the reason it remains a 'theory' is because that is the scientific language used to describe such ideas. It does not mean 'best guess' in the everyday world sense. So many people try to claim that, without an understanding of the scientific ideas and principles behind the language.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:33 am |
    • OldNews

      I think it would be fair to say that there are millions and millions of species on this planet. Some similar, some not so much. Here's where I find a "monkey wrench" (no pun intended) in the evoloution theory......

      Out of all the millions and millions of species on this planet, what is it that humans were the ONLY species to advance to the physical and mental heavyweights of this planet? Even our closet relatives are not even close to what humans have "evolved" in to. How is it that we far, far, surpass everything else on this planet?

      Most of these species have been around far longer than humans, yet, we've passed them up in a blaze of glory, leaving most at the bottom of the food chain. I mean come on, considering the law of averages, out of all the species on this planet, we should have something pretty close to where we are.......be we do not.

      I don't think this to be a "fluke". Science cannot explain it. They may pose theory, but there is no proof to explain this fact. On a beach of many grains of sand, humans stand out like a sore thumb. We took over and control this planet.

      Now, am I saying that "God" made this happen? It's a possibility if you believe in that sort of thing. Many scientist believe there may have been some "extraterrestrial" intervention. Call me nuts if you want, but I didn't make the claim, scientist have. I'm all about facts. But sometimes, the facts are not truly what we think they are. I believe that evolution exist to a certain point, but I cannot see how it is responsible for our world and it's inhabitants today.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:35 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      "Out of all the millions and millions of species on this planet, what is it that humans were the ONLY species to advance to the physical and mental heavyweights of this planet?"

      Actually there have been many lines that have advanced towards similar humans, neanderthals for one, but when you have a species like ours, its like Highlander...there can be only one, those that were alongside us we wiped out.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:39 am |
    • Truth

      MarkinFL, then I have one for you. Thousands of years ago, the Bible stated that after Babylon was destroyed, the site would never be made into a thriving city again. Bold prediction for one of the most well to do cities of its time, yet this still holds true to this day. Bunk? Hardly.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:49 am |
    • Rhubarb

      David Johnson –

      Do you often spend this much time and effort online, refuting "imaginary" things?

      January 11, 2012 at 10:00 am |
    • Rhubarb

      OK, so "god" is imaginary. He doesn't exist, so, logically, he cannot be responsible for the "horrible things" you mention.

      Evolution is real, explains everything, and is therfore responsible for all these horrible things.

      Therefore, Evolution is horrible.

      Thanks for clearing this up.

      January 11, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
  15. kurtinco

    It is not a theory. It is a fact! Evolution is real. Every living thing on this planet has the proof written into its DNA. Those that chose not to understand the science can rest peacefully by calling it simply a theory. But for the rest of us, the real facts about our existence are even more amazing and miraculous than the myth of Adam and Eve and all their incestuous children begetting the entire human race.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:09 am |
    • Rick W.

      Fact? Where is the proof today. Why are the primates no longer "evolving" into humans? If evolution into human form were a fact wouldn't there be a Neadrathal walking around today?

      January 11, 2012 at 9:24 am |
    • Chuck

      Semantics here, but it is actually a theory. It's just that the people who don't believe it will brand it as a "theory" in order to say that it is not proven as a fact, when, really, they are misunderstanding the definition of a theory.

      Theory: "a set of principles that explain and predict phenomena. Scientists create scientific theories with the scientific method, when they are originally proposed as hypotheses and tested for accuracy through observation and experiments. Once a hypothesis is verified, it becomes a theory" (Source: Wikipedia).

      January 11, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • MarkinFL

      The neanderthals are going around telling everyone they never existed and that the world is 6,00 years old.

      Kidding aside. Go learn about evolutionary theory since you clearly have absolutely no idea what it is about.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • Chuck

      @Rick No, you are incorrect. We can see evolution happening right now, in fact. We see bacteria that develop resistance to antibiotics. That's an example right there. What you're thinking of, speciation, is the changing of one species to another, which happens much too slowly for you to actually see. If you look at your kid, he probably doesn't look any taller than he looked last week, but is he growing? Of course he is.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:41 am |
    • Rhubarb

      "....Every living thing on this planet has the proof written into its DNA..."

      NICE ONE !! You site one of the most staggeringly complex things in the universe (DNA) as if it just popped out of thin air. Why not just mention the entire Library of Congress and say that no one ever actually wrote any of the articles?? No, they just.....E V O L V E D..........

      January 11, 2012 at 9:56 am |
  16. jon

    The "church" or religion always tries to fight science until they accept it. It has been happening thousands of years. Evolution can be seen all over this planet get outside and do your own research in a stressed area with an insect with a quick lifespan.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:07 am |
    • Mike

      Jon says "
      The "church" or religion always tries to fight science until they accept it. It has been happening thousands of years. Evolution can be seen all over this planet get outside and do your own research in a stressed area with an insect with a quick lifespan."

      Some examples would be great for the first point. Actually for the second point also – where are there examples of macro evolution all around us every day? You should probably contact some evolutionary biologists, they are still having a heck of a time finding a transitional fossil, if you could show them macroevolution in process you'd be very famous.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:17 am |
    • WASP

      @ mike: take an ant colony, introduce a weak pesticide into their food it will kill most of that colony; however if it doesn't kill the larger queen she can produce eggs that will be immune to that toxin. After a few generation, which is months for a creature like ants that reproduce on such a massive scale.

      January 18, 2012 at 9:26 am |
  17. Me

    The "catch phrase" was 7 of 10 clergy reject evolution. Then the article says 12% of clergy support evolution. That calculates to around 9 of 10 reject evolution. Who's the mathematician writing this article?

    January 11, 2012 at 9:06 am |
    • Runaway Serfer

      Math? Isn't that one of those suspect sciences?

      January 11, 2012 at 9:17 am |
    • Rick W.

      Read it again. 73% disagree(is rounded down to 7 of 10). 12% agree which would imply 15% as either not having an opinion, or other opinion or maybe not replying to that question. What is concerning is how this is not 100% for pastors. Either they believe or dont. I dont think there is a gray area here.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:34 am |
  18. vicarkatz

    What pastors did they really ask? Seems to me, they must have picked pastors they knew would say no to evolution. I'm a pastor, and I have no problem with the concept of evolution. Frankly I don't care how it all happened. and it seems to me since God is God, He can create in any way he sees fit, NOT as humans demand that He should or should not.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:06 am |
    • Btea

      Well Frankly, I do. The bible cleary says that there is a difference between man and animal. One was made in his image, and the other was not. He created females for a reason. That reason was so that the female be a companion for the male in which he created. Evevrything was created for a reason, not through chance and accidents. I believe exactly what God says about how we were created. I don't believe we got here by chance, and I don't believe we started as a amino acids in the sea that somehow miraculously became life. He didn't just start a process, sat back, and see what was going to happen! The bible is the only record of the different generations after Adam and Eve. Evolution can't tell you that. They call creation a myth, but they sure spend a lot of money trying to disprove it! Just look at the space program. They are trying there best to find some kind of life on Mars or elsewhere so they can place the bible in the mythology section. The problem is, they can't. they will never find any kind of life because, it simply isn't there!

      January 11, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • MarkinFL

      So this universe spanning omnipotent being looks like us? Why? Why would it need legs or arms? Does it have a penis or bellybutton? Hair? Its all so absurd and reflects the extreme ego feeding that humans seem to need.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:32 am |
  19. Primewonk

    There are 2 billion Christians on earth. Of these, 90%, or 1.8 billion are members of sects whose position is that there is no problem with a faith in the Christian version of god, and an understanding that evolution is a fact. It is only amongst the fundamentalists that we see this problem. Unfortunately, a large percentage of these remaining 200 million fundamentalists live in the U.S.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:05 am |
  20. ccp

    I am surprised that there are any true pastors that believe in evolution. They should believe in the Bible which teaches Creationism. I can undedrstand about the age of the earth because there is so disagreement about the length of a day (for Creation) and the length of a yeart. You can not be wrong if you take the Bible literaly.

    January 11, 2012 at 9:05 am |
    • Primewonk

      You will be completely wrong if you take your bible literally.

      Your bible claims the earth was made before any stars. This is a lie. The earth formed 9+ billion years after the first stars. When your god lies about the very first thing in his book, it doesn't bode well for the rest.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:08 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      Taking the bible literally is the first mistake.
      That so many believe that adam and eve were real.....for crying out loud.

      January 11, 2012 at 9:41 am |
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