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My Take: Why the abortion issue won’t go away
The 2011 Right to Life march in Washington.
January 23rd, 2012
10:01 AM ET

My Take: Why the abortion issue won’t go away

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

After recently addressing a large secular assembly on issues of moral controversy, I turned and faced a woman who urgently wanted to ask me a question: “Why won’t the abortion issue just go away?”

I knew exactly what she was asking. I often meet abortion rights advocates who honestly thought that the national controversy over abortion would simply melt away within a few years of the Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion, handed down by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1973.

That was clearly the hope of the Supreme Court majority that signed onto the opinion written by Associate Justice Harry Blackmun. In a note he wrote to himself as he drafted the final opinion and looked to its aftermath, Blackmun revealed a rather optimistic assumption: “It will be an unsettled period for a while.”

Surely, he didn’t mean for that “while” to extend four decades.

Sunday marked the 39th anniversary of the decision, and the abortion question is anything but settled. Just look at the crowds gathering in Washington on Monday for the annual March for Life.

In fact, America has been unsettled ever since Roe. Abortion has become a central issue of political conflict, debate and division. If the court had hoped to calm the waters, it failed spectacularly.

As Guido Calabresi, then dean of the Yale Law School, observed, the aftermath of Roe v. Wade produced a “sense of desperate embattlement.” As Calabresi noted, the court’s decision failed to produce a national consensus. Rather, Roe “made it impossible for the opposing views to live with each other.”

Those who thought that the decision of the Supreme Court would settle the issue had reason for that hope. On other controversial questions, the court’s rulings had produced initial furor and outrage, but the nation rather quickly accommodated itself to those decisions. Take integration in public schools.

Not so with abortion.

Why? Professor Lawrence H. Tribe of the Harvard Law School, an ardent defender of abortion rights, at least recognized that the abortion question presents nothing less than a “clash of absolutes.”

Tribe attempted to propose a means of avoiding “pitting these absolutes against one another.” All such efforts have failed, precisely because the competing claims are indeed absolutes.

When abortion-rights advocates and their allies ask why the abortion issue will not just go away, they really mean to ask why, given the stark reality of Roe, the pro-life movement has not dissipated and retreated into the history books.

Here are five reasons why:

First, the radical character of Roe – overthrowing abortion laws in 49 states – galvanized pro-life forces. The judicial imposition of abortion on demand, virtually without restriction until the third trimester, produced both shock and outrage among those who believe that the unborn child has an inalienable right to life.

Within months of Roe, an organized pro-life movement came into shape, looking for any means of limiting and eventually ending the termination of unborn life.

Second, Roe also had the effect, surely unforeseen by the Supreme Court, of bringing millions of evangelical Christians into the fight on behalf of unborn life. Prior to Roe, even many evangelicals believed that abortion was a Roman Catholic issue.

Roe was a legal earthquake that awakened a massive number of evangelicals to the deadly reality of abortion. With remarkable speed, evangelicals soon educated themselves on the issue and then mobilized themselves both politically and culturally.

Third, the death spiral of abortion simply defies adequate calculation. Over a million abortions are performed in America each year. Reports last year indicated that over 40% of all pregnancies in New York end in abortion, a rate that increases to almost 60% of pregnancies among African-American women.

The sheer scale of the death toll sears the pro-life conscience. Young people can now see that millions are missing from their own generation.

Fourth, abortion has proved to be exactly what pro-life activists warned it would be: a deadly threat to human dignity that would target specific populations. Prenatal testing has produced a deadly reality for unborn babies considered less than acceptable by their parents.

The vast majority (90%) of unborn children diagnosed with Down syndrome are now aborted. Sex-selection abortions are legal in the wide-open “right” to abortion declared by the court. Prenatal testing of other characteristics means that parents can now abort a baby that does not meet their specifications and try again.

Fifth, powerful imaging technologies now allow a look inside the womb, a privilege unknown to previous generations. That window has transformed the equation, as millions of parents have seen their unborn children and witnessed the miracle of life.

They have seen the little human form and the actions of the unborn child, sucking its thumb as it nestles within its mother. Millions of siblings have seen the images of their unborn brothers and sisters taped to the refrigerator door.

Those of us who believe that every single unborn child has a right to be born cannot resign from the effort to protect those lives.

The greatest advances made by the pro-life movement have been made among the young, the generation that has known the death toll from Roe v. Wade all their lives. More evidence that the abortion issue will not simply go away.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Abortion • Opinion • Politics

soundoff (1,716 Responses)
  1. Muneris

    If one doesn't have the will to protect the unborn then why is one indulging in reckless s.ex???

    January 23, 2012 at 8:30 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      Let's see:

      R,a,p,e
      Passion
      Hormones
      Boys who talk girls into having unprotected s.e.x
      Women who seduce men
      And if HotAirAce's numbers are right, Christians doing the wild thing and not following what they are telling everyone else to do.
      Oh, and sometimes pulling out just doesn't work. Dam Catholics.

      Haven't you ever had s.e.x?? Sad.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @Muneris

      You asked: "If one doesn't have the will to protect the unborn then why is one indulging in reckless s.ex???"

      Because, if the reckless s_ex becomes "productive", there is always abortion to set things right. All part of god's great plan. *smile*

      Cheers!

      January 23, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
    • Vitam

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videoseries&w=640&h=390]

      January 23, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • USDA Choice beef

      @David Johnson

      So atheist Johnson how can it be choice beef if it has no choice. You godless types are all alike kill kill kill
      Kill babies because you are so much more important. Is it being Gay that makes atheist think such wierd thoughts or being atheist that makes being gay and killing babies the intellegent thing to do.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • R vs.W

      Staring Horse... if you can't protect life then get neutered.

      January 23, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      I am all for protecting life. I just don't care if a woman wants to have an abortion. None of my business. Why don't you pro-lifers mind your own business? If you don't want to get an abortion then don't get one. Who cares?

      January 23, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Where do you get the idea that all abortions are the result of 'reckless s3x'?

      January 23, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

      Proverbs 16:25

      Amen.

      January 23, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      @USDA Choice beef

      70+% of abortions in the USA are had by believers. Abortion is more of a believer problem than a god-less atheist problem. Get control of your fellow cult members and the number of abortions will drop significantly.

      January 23, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
  2. HotAirAce

    Given that 70+% of all abortions in the USA are had by believers, the abortion issue could be significantly reduced if believers simply followed their cult's rules. Why are believers or their alledged gods so weak, if not stupid, that believers engage in prohibited behaviour and then deal with the consequences via abortion? Believers could substantially reduce the number of abortions without a single change to any laws just by behaving as they would like everyone else to!

    January 23, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      Wow is that true? Figures.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:24 pm |
    • captain america

      We don't need a know-it-all canadian telling US how to think or act, we don't need your opinion at all, go pound salt. There's your sign

      January 23, 2012 at 8:25 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      I do! Speak for yourself CA.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      At it again cappie?

      January 23, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
    • sam

      Fck off cap, you boring moron. At least get new material.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • captain america

      good luck all you losers letting some anonymous canadian do your thinking for you, atheist types are such slugs. There's your sign

      January 23, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      You really wanna go through this again cappie?

      January 23, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Much better that everyone listen to an anonymous xenophobic american.

      January 23, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • Iron Man

      Cap...go home and stop being a little b!tch.

      January 24, 2012 at 5:12 am |
  3. Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

    Fetuses are not "persons" within the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment.

    January 23, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
    • SATAN has a COLD

      That's right, justify murder as long as you can clear your conscience by using someone elses definition. "Well, the law says something so it has to be perfectly acceptable!" Remember, at one time the law said it was ok to own slaves. How about the bible? It says to kill gays. Since it's written down in a book by someone, it must mean it's ok to do.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      That is why we have laws, but hey, that brings up a very interesting point.

      Soon we will be able to tell if a child will be gay via genetic testing in the womb. If the testing shows a high probability for H.o.m.o.s.e.x.uality, is ok to kill it then??? Oh, but that really screws up your "Gay is a choice" routine.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:15 pm |
    • SATAN has a COLD

      Since when is being gay a choice?

      January 23, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      Sorry Satan, I thought you were one of "them". My bad. Hey, take care of the cold. Rest and drugs.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:22 pm |
    • sam

      You're both idiots.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:27 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      Sam, why? I don't mind the name calling but at least qualify your statement.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:33 pm |
    • sam

      "One of 'them'...?" Whatever.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • USDA Choice beef

      Yep just hunks of beef so do what you want with the buggars
      No God = do what you want with your meat,,,,,,if have a little conscience then call it a feetus, they smell and are at the bottom of intellegent atheists.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • SATAN has a COLD

      Something tells me that this "sam" child needs a little work in reading comprehension. I think he was offended by the gay remarks, as in, he believes there was an attempted insult fired in the direction of his people. I don't believe he is fully aware of the true context of the thread.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      Fascinating.

      Sam, what did you think I meant? Just curious. I was of course referring to H.o.m.ophobes.

      January 23, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Ephesians 2:2-3

      2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
      3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

      Amen.

      January 23, 2012 at 10:55 pm |
    • sam

      Ok...make your statements clear re ho'm'os and ho'm'o'ph'bes..

      January 24, 2012 at 5:01 am |
    • sam

      HeavenSent – you're a dumb wh0re.

      January 24, 2012 at 5:13 am |
  4. Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

    Argument for Roe

    The right to an abortion should be recognized as a fundamental right triggering strict scrutiny because of the great impact childbearing and childbirth has on a woman's life.
    -Risk to a woman's health of childbirth (during first trimester, abortions have a death rate that is more than five times lower than the risk of death to mothers from childbirth.)
    -Unwanted pregnancies disrupt life (financial burden, psychological burden, and physical experience of pregnancy itself, stigma of being an unwed mother)

    January 23, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
    • SATAN has a COLD

      Being pregnant is such an inconvenience. Let's just kill it!

      My dog had the runs one time when I wasn't home and took a dump on the carpet. Man, what an inconvenience that was. I should have put him down right then and there.

      Children can be such an inconvenience sometimes. Like, when they try to get your attention when you're talking to someone and they're tapping your leg repeatedly to tell you about a cake they saw three years ago and just remembered how tasty it was and they want to talk about it right then? Terribly inconvenient that is and indeed a death penalty-worthy action if you ask me.

      Today, some guy cut me off, and then decided to drive slower than the speed limit. I was inconvenienced. I should have cut him off, pulled him out of his car and taken his life. All because it inconvenienced ME. ME ME ME ME. ME ME. MEME.

      On that note, when are women going to start keeping their legs closed?

      January 23, 2012 at 8:15 pm |
    • sam

      Satan, if I knew ahead of time they'd end up like you, wasting time being a doosh on the internet, I'd kill that little bas.tard quick. You keep your legs together, b!tch.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @SATAN has a COLD

      Tell me are you male or female?

      January 23, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • SATAN has a COLD

      We have ourselves a little Napolean E-thug here everyone. Be careful. He might call you names and try to hurt your E-feelings.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
  5. Treebeard

    Look at these people with their abortion signs made of trees! They should know better!

    Many of these trees were my friends. Creatures I had known from nut or acorn...

    January 23, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
  6. Neal Horsley

    The abortion "issue" won't go away because Christian cowards like R. Albert Mohler Jr won't obey the One they call Lord and treat the unborn like they would want to be treated if somebody was planning on murdering them. Such Christian hypocrisy was taught in the South before the Civil War and Mohler is a direct line descendent of the self-serving "teachers" who led the Nation into Civil War then. May God destroy his influence and expose him as the blind leading the blind is my prayer.

    January 23, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
    • Treebeard

      That doesn't make sense to me. But, then again, you are very small.

      January 23, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
  7. Macarena

    Terrorists hate abortion because they hate freedom. They hate it. They hate freedom.

    January 23, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
  8. llɐq ʎʞɔnq

    "if a biological basis is found, and if a prenatal test is then developed, and if a successful treatment to reverse the se'xual orientation to heterose'xual is ever developed, we would support its use as we should unapologetically support the use of any appropriate means to avoid se'xual temptation and the inevitable effects of sin.
    —R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

    So it seems messing around with human life in the womb is not beyond Mohler's scope of activity. Very interesting, AND inconsistent. Does his god have a plan, or not ? This article is seriously enlightening and rather scary. This guy is the President of the Southern Baptist Seminary. He has not addressed even ONE of the issues involved with AB debate, not theological, not legal, not scientific.

    The assumptions of these people, ((who say "life begins at conception", (when they actually mean, "life begins at fertilization"),.... ie "conception" being when the zygote implants, (BTW a PROCESS, NOT a "moment"), in the endometrial wall), as opposed to the moment of fertilization, (also a PROCESS), when the gametes fuse)), are legion, and all easily refutable. But he seems to be unable to actually present even one, or deal with any of the issues, theological, legal, or scientific.

    The Ab debate will NOT go away , because in a world which the fundies perceive as a morass of "moral relativism", it's the one issue they see as "absolute", and can hang their Anal Retentive hats upon. In fact if they knew anything about science, and Cell Biology, (to say nothing of Physics and Chemistry), it is the FARTHEST thing from that.

    The two most effective ways to decrease Ab are 1. widespread promotion and availability of a contraceptive, inexpensively to ALL, (example "Plan B"), and 2. s'ex education, both of which Mohler's fundies oppose. :twisted:

    January 23, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • Elephant in the room

      Sounds like Mohler thinks they *were* born that way.

      January 23, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
  9. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Prayer can solve or resolve anything
    Jesus is the answer
    What was the question
    Prayer really changes things

    January 23, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    • Nope

      We've been praying you would stop posting this crap and it hasn't stopped. Prayer doesn't work.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
    • just sayin

      you can't pray away prayer prayer is a vital part of a good life

      January 23, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • bringoutyourdead

      demons oppose and fear prayer

      January 23, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • Nope

      "you can't pray away prayer prayer is a vital part of a good life"

      People pray for conflicting things and one prayer does win out. Look at all the people that were praying the 49ers would win. ;-)

      January 23, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • just sayin

      Prayer is sincere communication with God, not wishful thinking like let the 49 ers win. Real prayer reveals prophecy to the participant. There is no value to a 49ers win.

      January 23, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • Nope

      "Real prayer reveals prophecy to the participant. "

      Total crap, the proof is in how so many lost so much in the past years, guess no prophecy was real and their prayers didn't work.

      January 23, 2012 at 7:11 pm |
    • Mark Gibson

      Wow, just sayinis a real dolt.

      January 23, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
    • Treebeard

      Look at these people with their abortion signs made of trees! They should know better!

      Many of these trees were my friends. Creatures I had known from nut or acorn.

      January 23, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • just sayin

      nope appears unwilling to understand that there is real prayer and counterfeit prayer. It is impossible to show a closed mind the difference

      January 23, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
    • SATAN has a COLD

      You're right, just. Religious people are not open to anything their cult doesn't tell them is ok. Therefore they are incapable of learning, which is why so many of them live in trailer parks.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
    • demon with arthritis

      prayer gave me arthritis! I can't believe it.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I'm sure the parents of children with leukemia are sincere when they pray. I would bet that amputees are sincere when they pray.

      Really, justlyin, don't you get tired of being wrong?

      January 23, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
  10. Lycidas

    Tom Tom can be spelled starting with C and ending in T. Spread 'em apart and throw un in the middle and whatcha got? Tom Tom! The piper's muff tooth dragger yeah! I don't blame her ex for divorcing her!! I wonder if she sits at her computer drinking pabst blue ribbon all day and cramming vast amounts of chocolates and children down her throat all day. lol

    January 23, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • ......

      Keep showing your low self esteem issues, you really need to seek professional help.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      herbie, did your mom forget to give you your cookies and milk?

      January 23, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • Go Patriots Yeah!

      Low self esteem and cookies.

      Talk about awesome originality! Oh man! Ever thought about writing books? You two could be great team! I bet your ideas combined would be like, something only done three or four hundred times before! Lay some more of this great material on me. I Can't wait to read it!! Give me something good to polish one off to!!

      January 23, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • herbie

      still can't spell herbie tom tom? or do you see herbies everywhere?

      January 23, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • Go Patriots Yeah!

      Hurry it up! It's going to get all limp if you don't.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • Lycidas

      Dang...whoever took my username doesn't like Tom for some reason. Chill man, take it easy.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tommie Tantrum the unglued troll does not contain an ounce of originality.

      Amen.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      You're telling me. She's never stated anything of any importance here. Ever. But she believes herself to be the most important thing on the planet. I'm curious to know how old it is. Mid 50's maybe? For someone of such importance and maturity, you'd think it wouldn't waste it's time here, but you know how hypocrites are.

      Fat. And ugly.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
    • Lycidas

      FAKE LYCIDAS, OFF MY HANDLE, BRO.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    • Herbie

      This is a fun game stealing other ppl's usernames.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
    • Lycidas

      They could at least learn how to act like the person they are taking it from. Bad acting isn't worthwhile here.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • Go Patriots Yeah!

      But what do we expect from those that cannot come up with their own unique usernames?

      January 23, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • Lycidas

      A shocking bit of information:

      Tom has been posting comments here for around 7 hours today. Talk about no life! Go look at page one... man!! SEVEN hours of posting useless comments that will never accomplish anything!! Bahahahahaha!!

      January 23, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • herbie

      you can have it i don't know who herbie is

      January 23, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What must I have done to you to make you so mad? Poor herbie. I wish I could remember what it was so I could do it again.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:17 pm |
    • herbie

      there is no herbie

      January 23, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Seven (that's 7) HOURS of commenting, and still going. It's amazing how much time stupid people will waste trying to peddle his or her worthless commentary. A person like that must have no life at all. Can you imagine what it's like to not have a life? It would be very boring, I'd imagine.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
    • Elephant in the room

      I would never shake a baby, unless the receipt called for it.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
  11. Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

    Will one of you god dam "fred's" change your name? I change mine all the time, it is not that difficult!

    January 23, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
    • J.W

      One of the freds is doing that on purpose to confuse everyone, and saying things that the first fred would not normally say.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • YeahRight

      Yeah I know I have about 15 different handles and I post on both sides. I really laugh when I get the Christians going and they're agreeing with me one minute and calling me names the next. It's hysterical. I even got HS agreeing with me on several occasions, she's a real hoot.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      Well I certainly don't do that, but I do get bored with the same name all the time and don't see any harm in changing it once in a while.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
  12. Rogar

    Evangelicals, doesn't The bible say..."Judge not Less ye be judged"? Where did you lose that one? The Christian right is so out of touch with reality it is laughable. How about not trying to tell those who are pro-choice what to do with their bodies! No one is forcing you to have an abortion! I want churches to start paying TAXES! Churches have no right to dictate in the real world. Then Churches can start pulling their collective weight in taxes! Right wing, Neo-Nazis, bigots, Bible beaters!

    January 23, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • J.W

      You probably know nothing about taxes.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
    • BoldGeorge

      @ Rogar "Evangelicals, doesn't The bible say..."Judge not Less ye be judged"?"

      Well, judgement was passed when the mommy decided the baby's fate, deciding that jr. wasn't good enough to be born, much less to live. And that's the key issue here and it has always been regarding being anti-abortion. What fault did the baby have to merit such a verdict, when in reality it was mom or dad who made the mistake (sinned)? Let the baby live and give him/her a better life than you are giving yourself. I know it's tough, but sometimes one's future can be more positive with a little one by your side. Just give it your best (and more).

      January 23, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
    • Ummm

      "What fault did the baby have to merit such a verdict, when in reality it was mom or dad who made the mistake (sinned)? Let the baby live and give him/her a better life than you are giving yourself. I know it's tough, but sometimes one's future can be more positive with a little one by your side. Just give it your best (and more)."

      History has proven you wrong. When abortion is illegal, the crime rate goes up because unwanted children that grow up in abusive homes or end up in foster care flood our society. You do know that good portions of the homeless in our society are foster children that age out of the system with nowhere to go. It's amazing there are 500,000 children waiting for homes and supposedly this country is 70% Christian. With those numbers, you would think the orphanages would be empty by now. Oh that's right because Christians don't actually practice what they preach.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      George, where do you get the idea that judgment was passed? What makes you think you've got the inside info?

      January 23, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
    • Dan Jones

      You are not only out of touch, but your perspective is irrational. The issue isn't and has never been one of women's rights or the right to do with your body what you want. The issue is the life of the child. If that which is in the womb is a human being then there can be no justification for the murder of that child and the people who lamely say it is the mother's prerogative to murder him or her if she feels like it is just barbaric. You say that Christians shouldn't judge. What if we were talking about a two year old being killed and we blithely say,"oh, I wouldn't want to judge that, maybe that child needed to die"? Would such apathy be Christian. We will hold these abortions up before your face and daily remind you of the lives you are taking until such time as God drags you before his throne and I will guarantee you that anyone who supported, aided, voted, or took part in these abortions and has not repented will be judged in the light of the truth, not Roe verses Wade, and they will be put to shame and punished fittingly.

      January 23, 2012 at 7:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, stick it, Danny. Unless you're the one carrying the fetus, no one cares about your opinion. You will never be faced with such a decision, so get bent.

      January 24, 2012 at 7:43 am |
    • Chartreuxe

      A fetus is not a baby, your personal belief notwithstanding.

      'The judicial imposition of abortion on demand, virtually without restriction until the third trimester, produced both shock and outrage among those who believe that the unborn child has an inalienable right to life.'

      There's the problem right there. You believe differently than the science, but that doesn't make it truth. Perhaps you should pray about your own problems rather than focusing on another woman's uterus.

      Matthew 7:5

      'You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers.'

      In other words, mind your own business and your own uterus. Jesus said so. How can so-called Evangelicals ignore such instructions from the Lord?

      January 24, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
  13. greg

    i dont believe woman has the right to kill babies cuz theyr all emotional train wrecks anyway and shouldnt be alloweed to make any decision at all

    January 23, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • ResponsibleMe

      What an odd troll you are.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  14. Lycidas

    Tom Tom thinks abortion is the most logical form of birth control there is. Toss 'em in the dumpster, right tom? Screw babies. They don't deserve a chance to live.

    I'm pretty sure abortion doctors and all of their patients are going to burn in hell for all eternity. Rightfully so. Good riddance to them.

    January 23, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Talk about a quantum leap.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I must have really rattled you, Lice. Do show where I said anything resembling this.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
    • Lycidas

      Take one.

      Into a wood chipper.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Aww, don't go away mad, sweetie.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Funny how poster like Lice and Somedude are in love with fetuses but can't stand people.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • Lycidas

      I'm not mad. You'll wake up feeling better about yourself if you don't go to bed stupid. That why ya come on here every day to push your obama-loving liberal bs? Four kids? They's be lucky they didn't get pitchforked on the way down that chute with your mindset. Now we all know how many times you've had a man. Any of them have the same father? Nahhhhhhh didn't think so. If they did, you'd be a republican.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
    • Lycidas

      I like people just fine. Just not pieces of feces that don't deserve the air in their lungs : D

      January 23, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Four kids? Where did you get that number? What part of the post I made explaining that I've never had an abortion did you miss?

      You and ferry must be drowning your sorrows together.

      Poor thing. I had no idea you got so unhinged when you didn't get your way or manage to come up with a decent argument, Lice.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
    • Hmmmm

      "I'm not mad. You'll wake up feeling better about yourself if you don't go to bed stupid. That why ya come on here every day to push your obama-loving liberal bs? Four kids? They's be lucky they didn't get pitchforked on the way down that chute with your mindset. Now we all know how many times you've had a man. Any of them have the same father? Nahhhhhhh didn't think so. If they did, you'd be a republican."

      Hmmm, Tom, Tom, you're getting to him. He's ranting more and more like a lunatic.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      Where is Hell Lycidas? Do I need my GPS?

      January 23, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • Lycidas

      Haha! I love it when this dumb CI_INT thinks it got the better of someone! It's like clockwork!

      Favorite word: "Rattled." Ooooh yeah, got me REEEEEAL rattled. Bahaha!

      January 23, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Lice, honey, doesn't it occur to you that I was once a fetus? Do you think all fetuses are going to grow up to be like you?

      Really, dear, don't be so worked up. Troll harder. Isn't that what you always advise? The sun'll come out, tomorrow...

      January 23, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • Lycidas

      Uh oh! Careful now or I'll get "unhinged!!" Another favorite!!! Are you retired Tom? is that way you're on here all day every day?

      January 23, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Lice says:I like people just fine. Just not pieces of feces that don't deserve the air in their lungs : D

      ------

      So you DO approve of choice, after all. As long as you're the one who gets to make it. Good to know.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hmm. I'm on here all day every day? How would you know that if you weren't here, too?

      Do you worry about me? How sweet.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
    • .....

      "Uh oh! Careful now or I'll get "unhinged!!" Another favorite!!! Are you retired Tom? is that way you're on here all day every day?"

      I think we have an impostor who likes to play pranks on here, they suffer from low self esteem.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
    • Lycidas

      Ooooooh the liberal tries to twist words around. NICE!!

      No stupid, I never said that : ) Just because some lousy people like you don't deserve to breathe doesn't mean good people have the choice to stop you from breathing all this delicious air! Silly old carpet chomper!!

      January 23, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yeah, looks like herbie is here again. Must be a very sad life.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I didn't figure it was the real Lice. He usually writes better. Herbie, do you have trouble with premature eja cul at ion?

      January 23, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Lycidas

      I have a great life! How many cans of dog food you shovel into your pie hole today?

      January 23, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sure you do, herbie.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
    • herbie

      what is with your herbie obsession?

      January 23, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Eh.....username thieves are an odd type.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How is it you've only just now shown your handle, herbie? You hadn't made any other comments until you were outed.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      You actually think you outed someone?

      January 23, 2012 at 6:24 pm |
    • herbie

      there is no herbie just hit the keyboard a few minutes ago

      January 23, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
    • eibreh

      Tom Tom
      You got it all backwards.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
  15. Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

    Teenagers who become mothers have grim prospects for the future. They may even try self abortion and injure themselves. They are much more likely to leave of school; receive inadequate prenatal care; rely on public assistance to raise a child; develop health problems; or end up divorced.

    January 23, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      Don't you get it? Antiabortionists don't care about babies, children or people. Their claim to care about the fetus is bogus. Their true desire is to displace attention from the real problems in this country and the fact that they don't fund programs for the babies when they're born.

      Look it up for yourself: the GOP has cut school lunch programs, Aid to dependent children, Planned Parenthood health care which provides medical care for expectant mothers (under the guise that they perform a limited number of abortions annually), Medicare programs which provides health care to the children who were born in the past because they weren't aborted, WIC which provides food to Women, Infants and Children...one could go on.

      These hypocrites only *pretend* to care about fetuses. When they're born and children, hungry and in need of services, that's the end of it. They can starve, go ignorant and die for all they care.

      January 24, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
  16. WordUpToo

    "Young people can now see that millions are missing from their own generation."

    Huh? How can you miss something that was never there to begin with? And with 7billion on the planet (and growing), these "young people missing millions from their generation" should be thankful that clusters of cells can be medically removed, preventing unwanted births and (perhaps) even saving the human population from growing to a point of unsustainability. I suppose the pro-life folks would prefer that scenario?

    January 23, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      That scenario is inevitable regardless.

      January 23, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      Aantiabortionists don't believe in Climate Change, nor that we are living in a Mass Extinction and they think God's going to save us from ourselves.

      They don't care that the planet is overloaded and the seas are fished out, and if they ever think about our resources, they have the comeback that the total population of the planet could live in Texas. As if. Never mind growing food, sewage disposal, infrastructure or water supplies.

      It's denial, plain and simple.

      January 23, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
  17. The obvious solution

    What about this – if you don't want to have a baby then don't do the thing that creates a baby! It's called having personal responsibility and good, decent morals!

    January 23, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
    • Colin

      In my experience, it tends to be those who are the most unattractive to the opposite $ex who most loudly extol the virues of abstinence.

      January 23, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
    • *facepalm*

      Yup, because abstinence actually works!

      January 23, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • catholic engineer

      You're obviously right. I suspect, though, that there's another interpretation to Genesis. When God said to be fruitful and multiply, S/He knew this wouldn't happen unless the Adam's brain was turned off when the Eve walked by. After all, she wasn't wearing much.
      Here you have my failed attempt at humor.

      January 23, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • BoldGeorge

      Certainly abstinence does work. No one can argue that. Now, to get people to abstain is an entirely different story. Shamefully, most people are un-abstainable.

      January 23, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • BoldGeorge

      Some folks have got it all wrong when it comes to abstinence. When we say, "abstain", we mean from s-e-x-u-a-l immorality, s-e-x-u-a-l impurity, because otherwise, that is when you will get unwanted pregnancies and much wanted abortions.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      @The OS:
      What are good, decent morals, please explain. Are there indecent morals or bad morals? What ARE morals?

      @BG
      Why is having s.e.x. shameful? I don't understand.

      Thank you both.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I love it when a geezer like George brays about abstaining. He probably gets Viagra or Cialis by the gross and even then he never gets any.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      George, how do you explain the rather significant percentage of married women who have abortions? Do you think they're all having impure s3x?

      January 23, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • sam

      George, I know it pains you that there is another position besides missionary, but I think if you try a couple them you will stop being so unhappy.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
  18. Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

    The ability of a woman to have control of her body is critical to civil rights. Take away her reproductive choice and you step onto a slippery slope. If the government can force a woman to continue a pregnancy, what about forcing a woman to use contraception or undergo sterilization?

    January 23, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  19. Elephant in the room

    Hey Al, Google "products of conception", then come back, and we can talk. Idiot.

    January 23, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Who's Al?

      January 23, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
    • WordUpToo

      he's the author of the article it would appear...

      January 23, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • Lycidas

      Al is the guy from Quantum Leap.

      January 23, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • herbie

      Al is herbie

      January 23, 2012 at 6:38 pm |
  20. periwinkle

    The answer for the question: "why won't the abortion issue go away" is the same as to why all of these topics always boil down to the same discussion. It is simple: RELIGION

    January 23, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Luke 9:25-26

      25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?
      26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

      Amen.

      January 23, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
    • Creepycoolpriest

      1. Arbitrary Scripture
      2. Arbitrary Scripture

      Amen

      January 27, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
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