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My Take: Why the abortion issue won’t go away
The 2011 Right to Life march in Washington.
January 23rd, 2012
10:01 AM ET

My Take: Why the abortion issue won’t go away

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

After recently addressing a large secular assembly on issues of moral controversy, I turned and faced a woman who urgently wanted to ask me a question: “Why won’t the abortion issue just go away?”

I knew exactly what she was asking. I often meet abortion rights advocates who honestly thought that the national controversy over abortion would simply melt away within a few years of the Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion, handed down by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1973.

That was clearly the hope of the Supreme Court majority that signed onto the opinion written by Associate Justice Harry Blackmun. In a note he wrote to himself as he drafted the final opinion and looked to its aftermath, Blackmun revealed a rather optimistic assumption: “It will be an unsettled period for a while.”

Surely, he didn’t mean for that “while” to extend four decades.

Sunday marked the 39th anniversary of the decision, and the abortion question is anything but settled. Just look at the crowds gathering in Washington on Monday for the annual March for Life.

In fact, America has been unsettled ever since Roe. Abortion has become a central issue of political conflict, debate and division. If the court had hoped to calm the waters, it failed spectacularly.

As Guido Calabresi, then dean of the Yale Law School, observed, the aftermath of Roe v. Wade produced a “sense of desperate embattlement.” As Calabresi noted, the court’s decision failed to produce a national consensus. Rather, Roe “made it impossible for the opposing views to live with each other.”

Those who thought that the decision of the Supreme Court would settle the issue had reason for that hope. On other controversial questions, the court’s rulings had produced initial furor and outrage, but the nation rather quickly accommodated itself to those decisions. Take integration in public schools.

Not so with abortion.

Why? Professor Lawrence H. Tribe of the Harvard Law School, an ardent defender of abortion rights, at least recognized that the abortion question presents nothing less than a “clash of absolutes.”

Tribe attempted to propose a means of avoiding “pitting these absolutes against one another.” All such efforts have failed, precisely because the competing claims are indeed absolutes.

When abortion-rights advocates and their allies ask why the abortion issue will not just go away, they really mean to ask why, given the stark reality of Roe, the pro-life movement has not dissipated and retreated into the history books.

Here are five reasons why:

First, the radical character of Roe – overthrowing abortion laws in 49 states – galvanized pro-life forces. The judicial imposition of abortion on demand, virtually without restriction until the third trimester, produced both shock and outrage among those who believe that the unborn child has an inalienable right to life.

Within months of Roe, an organized pro-life movement came into shape, looking for any means of limiting and eventually ending the termination of unborn life.

Second, Roe also had the effect, surely unforeseen by the Supreme Court, of bringing millions of evangelical Christians into the fight on behalf of unborn life. Prior to Roe, even many evangelicals believed that abortion was a Roman Catholic issue.

Roe was a legal earthquake that awakened a massive number of evangelicals to the deadly reality of abortion. With remarkable speed, evangelicals soon educated themselves on the issue and then mobilized themselves both politically and culturally.

Third, the death spiral of abortion simply defies adequate calculation. Over a million abortions are performed in America each year. Reports last year indicated that over 40% of all pregnancies in New York end in abortion, a rate that increases to almost 60% of pregnancies among African-American women.

The sheer scale of the death toll sears the pro-life conscience. Young people can now see that millions are missing from their own generation.

Fourth, abortion has proved to be exactly what pro-life activists warned it would be: a deadly threat to human dignity that would target specific populations. Prenatal testing has produced a deadly reality for unborn babies considered less than acceptable by their parents.

The vast majority (90%) of unborn children diagnosed with Down syndrome are now aborted. Sex-selection abortions are legal in the wide-open “right” to abortion declared by the court. Prenatal testing of other characteristics means that parents can now abort a baby that does not meet their specifications and try again.

Fifth, powerful imaging technologies now allow a look inside the womb, a privilege unknown to previous generations. That window has transformed the equation, as millions of parents have seen their unborn children and witnessed the miracle of life.

They have seen the little human form and the actions of the unborn child, sucking its thumb as it nestles within its mother. Millions of siblings have seen the images of their unborn brothers and sisters taped to the refrigerator door.

Those of us who believe that every single unborn child has a right to be born cannot resign from the effort to protect those lives.

The greatest advances made by the pro-life movement have been made among the young, the generation that has known the death toll from Roe v. Wade all their lives. More evidence that the abortion issue will not simply go away.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. Lion King

    For the Left, people who are not OK to kill: muderers, rapists, mass-muderers, genocidal tyrants, cop killers, etc.

    People who are OK to kill: the unborn, the elderly, the retarded, the sick

    January 25, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • Fiona

      Very true and disturbing.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:24 pm |
    • catholic engineer

      It's too early for the Left/Liberal/Progressives to pontificate on this. In the 1960's and '70's, the liberals cast off all religious authority and began a 6ual revolution. "Free love", "if it feels good do it", even wife swapping. "Lets just move in together cuz it's only a piece of paper." They were young and naive then. But now? Let the libertines fix the AIDS epidemic, the soaring teen pregnancy rate, the soaring divorce rate, slow down the abortion industry, help the many thousands of single mothers who had the courage to carry to term. Fifty years ago, the liberal/progressive types crapped and now the whole world has stepped in it.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • Napa

      CE-Well articulated!

      January 25, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
  2. Lion King

    The three most deadly words in the world: "It's a girl!"

    Girl = abortion in Asia and India

    January 25, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
    • Lion King

      In China & India, they intentionally abort more girls every year than are born in the US! Two of the civilized countries that allow it!

      January 25, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
  3. Lion King

    And among the black teenage population, the ratio was (in 2010) for every 1000 babies born, 2,630 were aborted! No wonder Libs support abortion!

    January 25, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
  4. Lion King

    In NYC in 2010, for every 1,000 black children born, 1,448 were aborted

    January 25, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      And about 1,000 of them would have become believers.

      January 25, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
  5. Lion King

    Liberals see babies the way Shakespeare saw lawyers

    January 25, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      This post makes it obvious you are unable to understand Shakespeare, ya moron.

      January 27, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
  6. Lion King

    Are people still arguing over abortion because it's murder?

    January 25, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      If abortion is murder then so are masturbation and miscarriages.

      January 25, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Only if you belong to the RCC cult.

      January 25, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts or goblins

      Abortion is not murder, at least not in most modern countries and under most circumstances.

      January 25, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
  7. phucku

    your body, your decision. That's it.

    January 25, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
  8. George

    @HawaiiGuest

    As to justification for war and the death penality, read your Bible. In fact, God demands the death penality for much more than we today issue the death penality for.

    January 25, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      "god" demands that only STUPID people FOLLOW!

      January 25, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • Duh

      "God demands the death penality for much more than we today issue the death penality"

      Exactly you are to stone your children to death if they talk back to you!

      January 25, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Awww George you seem to have forgotten to address all the other questions I posed in my post. Just a mistake on your part I'm sure. I mean it's not like you'd ignore most of the post because you can't think of anything....wait a sec...

      So do you believe that any unbeliever shoudl be stoned to death in the streets? That children who misbehave should be killed? Those kinds of things are why many turn away from religion. Some of the things in the bible would fit in real well with some of the genocidal dictators that we have in the world today.

      January 25, 2012 at 6:12 pm |
    • George

      Stoning is a perfectly acceptable form of punishment in the Bible.

      January 25, 2012 at 6:14 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      You're not answering my questions. Try actually backing up your statements and quit dodging the questions like a coward. Or are you really that pathetic?

      January 25, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
    • George

      @HawaiiGuest

      It doesn't matter what you think. The Bible is the inerrant and infallible Word of God. If you don't believe it, you will be called to answer for your unbelief.

      January 25, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      George, are you organizing a stoning of Newt and his adulteress?

      January 25, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      George: "The Bible is the inerrant and infallible Word of God"

      RIGHT! Like how "hell" started out in the OT as merely "sheol" where ALL dead go regardless of their moral convictions. This place had NO PUNISHMENT. Only LATER was it converted into fiery hell for the convenience of Christo-Fascism.

      The story of Noah was ripped off of Babylon's Gilgamesh, which was WRITTEN DOWN as early as 2150 BS (see Wikipedia) whereas the Jews only wrote down the OT between 10 and 5 BC.

      Infallible like the freakin' pope! YEAH! HA HA HA!

      January 25, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
    • George

      @HawaiiGuest

      "So do you believe that any unbeliever shoudl be stoned to death in the streets? That children who misbehave should be killed?"

      That's what the Bible says. As to what I personally think, I am quite torn. This is why Islamic societies are generally more moral than the US. They carry forth the Biblical punishments.

      January 25, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @George

      Perhaps you should go live in the middle east theocracys if you admire their adherence so much. Instead of moaning and whining about america and how its not adherent, then go live someplace that is. Personally I would be glad if you left America and denounced your citizenship to go live in a theocracy you seem to admire so much.

      January 25, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
    • George

      I just want to clear something up: I do NOT beleive in stoning people, but I do believe in the death penalty. The fact that God demanded the death penalty is proof that the death penalty is just and moral.

      As for moving to the Middle East, America is my country, and I will strive to get her back to God and defeat secularism. Moreover, I am not Muslim. Please distinguish between Muslim and Christians. All I said was that they are to be admired because they enforce strict morality within their borders (but, unfortunately, see nothing wrong with terrorism which is abhorent).

      January 25, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
  9. Value Life

    duh, doesn't s.ex potentially leads to procreation?That is called reproduction.
    If one doesn't care to get pregnant then why roll in hay with such disdain for potential life.Snip it!

    January 25, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
  10. Educated Athiest

    FYI, This is not about belief in God(s)

    This is about whether a fetus counts as a human life.
    As an atheist I don't really care much what it says in the Bible.
    On the other hand, I am a parent, and have seen my children grow in the womb.

    It is perfectly obvious to me that unborn children are in fact human life.
    And because of that, I oppose their murder.

    Just as I oppose the murder of children and adults.

    January 25, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      Then how would you resolve the dilemma when a pregnancy threatens the life of a woman? Which life is more valuable to you?

      How would you handle a situation if your wife (assuming you are a man) got r-aped by a psychopath prison escapee (or anyone, for that matter)? Would you gratefully accept the b@stard child with open arms? I think not.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
    • J.W

      Some women do have children even though they were r@ped. It probably just depends on the person and circmstances.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • Educated?

      Embryos are NOT human babies. An embryo is developing to BECOME a human child, but for at least the first 20 weeks it is a collection of cells dividing and developing. You are arguing that embryos in the womb are alive because you've seen them grow into your children? Please tell me I don't have to explain why this is a non-argument.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
    • George

      @ReligionIs4Dolts

      You asked about what happens if the mother's life is in danger by carrying a pregnancy through to term. It's very simple: the mother had her chance to live, the baby did not.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • George

      @Educated?

      "Embryos are NOT human babies."

      Why? Because you defined it that way?

      January 25, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • LisaP

      What about all those children who would have been born to unfit parents- financially, mentally, etc? Would you have put these millions of children into adoptions and foster care? Who's going to take care of them?? That system is so overwhelmed already, I can't imagine if even an additional 40 million (1 million per decade rather than year) had gone through the ranks. Why can't we look at the quality of life some of these fetuses would face had they come to term?

      January 25, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
    • J.W

      It seems to me, although I may be wrong, that if a mother dies by giving birth there is a good chance the baby will die as well.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @George

      Then what about the womans right to life? There is no argument on whether a fully grown woman is a human being. This is why people don't take people like you seriously, the double standard. "It's not okay unless I think it is". I am a man so I feel I have no right to tell the woman what to do with her own body and life. When you really look closely George, those who get their definition of right and wrong from a single reference truly have no morals. They have someone elses morals that were interpreted and passed down. In an earlier post you said war and the death penalty are okay. Why is this? What is your justification?

      January 25, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      George: Catholic? Jeezus, you can just d@mn well die, b|+ch. You had yer chancet ta live. Die!

      January 25, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • George

      @ReligionIs4Dolts

      I was raised Catholic until I turned Evangelical in college.

      January 25, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      George: Yeah I figured you were one of those "Every Sperm Is Sacred" types? Why don't you watch some Monty Python movies, read some Douglas Adams (Hitchhiker's Guide) and chill out?

      January 25, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
    • Educated?

      @George: No, because they're not. I really, really, REALLY don't wan to waste time explaining everything to you since you're either not going to listen to, or understand, whatever I say. Also, a lot of the facts and reasoning are based in evolution, which I'm gonna go ahead and guess you don't 'believe' (I use the quotation marks to hang a lantern on the fact that not believing in evolution is like not believing the earth orbits the sun: ridiculous). What much of it comes down to is this: no functioning nervous system (indeed no nervous system, period, for many of the initial stages of the embryo) = no 'life.' Prior to the development of a fully functioning nervous system, and the activation of said system, a human embryo is 'alive' in the same sense a tumor is 'alive': the individual cells that make it up are alive, but there is no higher-level functionality. It is an embryo, not a baby.

      January 25, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
  11. George

    The atheists here show their complete lack of morals when they support the right to kill the most innocent among us. No one should have the right to kill another person. No one. Some of the comments on here are so sad. And to think that these atheists vote. This is why we need a Christian Amendment not only to establish America as a Christian nation, but also to outlaw abortion once and for all.

    January 25, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      WRONG, DOLT! There is a reason that religion is SEPARATE from state. To prevent us from becoming the Christo-Fascist version of Iran!

      January 25, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • J.W

      I am Curious George, are you anti-war and anti-death penalty as well?

      January 25, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
    • George

      @ReligionIs4Dolts

      People like you are the reason why we must elect conservative Christians in the November elections. If people lived by the dictates of religion as they did in times past, there would be no need for such an amendment. However, secularism has taken over America, and the only way to combat it is to amend the const.itution.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • George

      @J.W.

      No, the Bible makes clear that war and the death penalty are justified.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
    • ohnugget001

      I really do hope you're just a troll. Otherwise you're just scaring more people to the opposite viewpoint being so, well, creepy... a xtian amendment, yeah, right.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • Duh

      "No one should have the right to kill another person."

      A fetus isn't a person until it can breathe on it's own, so you're not killing a person.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • George

      @Duh

      Why? Because you defined a fetus as not a human being? You've been brainwashed by the liberal/secular B.S.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • J.W

      So in your opinion humans can kill other humans actually. If the baby is a threat to the life of the mother, and the mother had an abortion, wouldnt that just be self defense?

      January 25, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • Duh

      "Why? Because you defined a fetus as not a human being? You've been brainwashed by the liberal/secular "

      No moron in the context of the law.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • LisaP

      I'm atheist and I have very strong morals, however I do support a woman's right to choose. If she or her family cannot possibly care for the child, and all fetuses that had been aborted were born and put up for adoption and foster care, this article states that 40 million children would have been given up. Who is volunteering to take in those currently in the foster system? How many more would have grown up in homes, in a system that barely getting by as it is? Are YOU adopting these kids? Why is the future quality of life not discussed in the case of abortion??

      January 25, 2012 at 6:00 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      George: "If people lived by the dictates of religion as they did in times past, there would be no need for such an amendment"

      You're right. If everyone thought the way you do, then the government ruling the country where everyone thinks like you wouldn't need such a law.

      But GUESS WHAT?! Not everyone in THIS country thinks like a F-ing RETARDED, FAIRY-TALE-BELIEVING DOLT! Get over it! Church and State are SEPARATE!

      Go live in Iran if you want THEOCRACY!

      January 25, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      George: If your wife was r-aped, would you FORCE her to keep the baby? Are you that pathetic and stupid?

      January 25, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • Duh

      "People like you are the reason why we must elect conservative Christians in the November elections"

      We already know that is not going to happen. Newt is an adulterer, Rick is corrupt and a liar, Mitt is a greedy.Mormon. LOL!

      January 25, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • George

      @Duh

      The law can and should be changed.

      @Religionis4Dolts

      I think she should carry the baby to term. After all, the circu.mstances of conception are not the baby's fault.

      January 25, 2012 at 6:10 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      George: "the circu.mstances of conception are not the baby's fault."

      But your wife getting r-aped IS HER fault?!?! This is YOUR WIFE we're talking about!

      Just put yourself out of your misery and move to Iran already!

      January 25, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
  12. Otto

    So . . . if the country is about half pro-life and half pro-choice, but "(90%) of unborn children diagnosed with Down syndrome are now aborted," that means that the vast majority of pro-lifers would rather have an abortion than a child with Down syndrome. How dare these women insist that their abortions are appropriate and moral, while simultaneously attempting to destroy abortion access for every other woman in the country? "The only moral abortion is mine."

    January 25, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • catholic engineer

      If a large number of Christian woman abort Down's syndrome children, it's probably because they've bought into the bill of goods sold to them by the secularists regarding Down's children. "That poor child will suffer in life, so we'd better abort." In the small parish I attend we have three Down's kids. They are everyones' children. They are very loving people. Much of the suffering they do in life is from cruelty from a selfish culture that can't be bothered, and protects its own interests in the name of "compassion."

      January 25, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @catholic engineer

      What a lovely way to lay the blame for the choices of others on "secularlists". What happened to personal responsibility, or is that only for certain people?

      January 25, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • catholic engineer

      @HawiiGuest The churches teach respect for human life at all stages. Who else but the secularists could be blamed? Isn't the churches' respect for all life one reason for secularist contempt?

      January 25, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @catholic engineer

      The reason for contempt from some is because of the utter hypocricy of some believers. The statistic of the number of abortions of children than would have Down's is an example of this. Yet you are perfectly happy to blame "secularists" for a choice made by one of your own. Were these people held down against their will and doctors forced the abortion? NO. They made a choice, they exercised free will.
      Another reason for contempt is that some people who follow the Chrsitian faith try to legislate their own brand of morality. There are very few things that every reasonable person can say is morally wrong. Many do not agree with your brand of morality, yet some are so self-righteous that they don't care. They feel that they are the only ones who are right. Funny part about that is is that kind of thinking is exceedingly prideful. Wasn't that one of those deadly sin things? Then again double standards run rampant in this day and age.

      January 25, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      I'm still waiting for a good explanation why 70+% of abortions in the USA are had by believers...

      January 25, 2012 at 7:26 pm |
  13. T$F%

    MILLIONS TO BE ASSASSINATED FOR THE SAKE OF $$$ LIABILITIES(mk-ultra, chip implants, electroshocks etc. performed on them) AND NEW WORLD ORDER(multiculturalism = terrorism) POLITICAL AGENDA KNOWN AS "YOU ARE NEXT"(financial liabilities are 2 expensive for the government and it is cheaper to get read of you instead) !!!

    NOW YOU KNOW WHAT ORWELLIAN UNITED STATES CONGRESS(USSR#2 which consists of lawyers or what are liars and physicians...lawyers, so crime per physicians can get away with it) AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS WORLDWIDE ARE SOOO BUSY WITH WHEN PLAYING/CLOWNING(acting) IN FRONT OF CAMERAS ONLY HOW SOMETHING HAVE TO BE DONE(deliberately omitting/delaying facts of genocide as seen on this complain) ROMNEY'S FATHER ALIKE WHO EXCELLED AFTER GM WAS DELIBERATELY BANKRUPT(LIKE AMERICA TODAY) = success based on deliberate sabotage = known as grand treason!! !)

    January 25, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
    • T$F%

      LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT UNITED NATIONS, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL AS WELL AS NEW WORLD ORDER(MULTICULTURALISM = TERRORISM) GOVERNMENTS(Equal Employment Opportunity Commission) !!! ITS NOT THERE TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS, BUT TO DENY YOUR RIGHT TO EXISTENCE!!!

      ABDUCTIONS / FORCED BRAIN CHIP IMPLANTS / BLACKLISTING / FORCEFUL UNEMPLOYMENT / MK-ULTRA BRAINWASHING AGAINST WHITE(under "NAZI" lie) CIVILIAN POPULATION TODAY IN 2011/2012 ACROSS THE EUROPE AND NORTHERN AMERICA !!!WHY TO ACCEPT LIABILITIES FOR CRIMES COMMITTED WHEN WE CAN SIMPLY ASSASSINATE OUR VICTIMS(YOU) THANKS TO HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS AND FREE PRESS/MEDIA(most severe censorship of genocide ever !!!)!! Related to WHITES NO LONGER WELCOME IN AMERICA

      January 25, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • .....

      Get a life and stop yelling idiot.

      January 25, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • John Jacobson

      You are spouting absolute gibberish. You had better go back on your medication

      January 25, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
  14. J.W

    In most places abortion is legal in the early stages of pregnancy, but late term abortion is illegal. As long as we give women the education they need to make the right decision for them, I think we should be satisfied with how things are.

    January 25, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • DamianKnight

      As long as Chuckles, doesn't agree with you, JW, I'll agree too. :)

      January 25, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • J.W

      Lol I havent seen Chuckles on here lately. He probably decided to go become a Christian and will be back.

      January 25, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • DamianKnight

      He must have been impressed by our humbleness!

      January 25, 2012 at 11:49 am |
  15. momoya

    Abortion is a fundamental RIGHT for any woman. It is her body, and she may get rid of any part of it that she wishes to. By definition, a fetus is a parasite from the perspective of the woman it inhabits. She may choose to nurture it or to destroy it. No one else may claim it in any way. This right, like all others, is afforded to individuals of a civilized society by their society. That is all.

    January 25, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • Curious

      What exactly is a fundamental right? Why must anyone acknowledge that you have one?

      January 25, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • momoya

      The right for a human to treat his body as s/he wishes. Nobody "must" acknowledge these rights, obviously.

      January 25, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
    • Observer

      Suppose no one is willing to acknowledge that you have such rights.

      January 25, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • momoya

      @Observer. Indeed. You've heard of Kim Jong Il?

      January 25, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Observer

      Yes, I heard. My condolences.

      January 25, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
  16. ReligionIs4Dolts

    The tyranny of the PRO-LIFE argument is so retarded because it demands that NO ONE should be able to have an abortion, even if the fetus is (1) the result of a vicious r-ape, (2) the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother, among other examples that prove that abortion is not always an "act of convenience."

    Some pro-lifers argue that "the child did nothing wrong." But what about the mother who will die if the pregnancy is not terminated? The mother also did nothing wrong. What if the woman who got R-APED happened to be YOUR MOTHER or YOUR WIFE and the pregnancy resulting from this R-APE also happened to threaten your mother's/wife's life? Then you dumb religious freaks wouldn't be quoting "Well, those types of pregnancies are only a tiny minority of abortion cases."

    THINK, FOOLS!

    Prohibition of any kind (alcohol, drugs) is already proven to be ineffective! If you ban abortion, the result (as we all know) will be that abortions will continue to be performed, except then they wouldn't be in hospitals and clinics, but would be in unsanitary back-alleys, crack houses, etc. and would use coat hangers and common garden tools.

    THINK FOOLS! AND S T FU WHILE YOU'RE AT IT!

    January 25, 2012 at 10:14 am |
  17. Reality

    Why the abortion issue won't go away? The stupidity of Pill and/or condom users and uneducuated political leaders!!!

    Only for the "newbies":

    Added details:

    Obama rode to the Blood-Red House on the backs of 35+million aborted womb-babies!!!

    What BO can do to at least lift part of the Immoral Majority leader label? (see below for a definition of the Immoral Majority)

    He says abortions should be "safe, legal and rare" but says nothing about the basic tenet of proper human conduct i.e. Thou Shalt Not Kill. And where is BO's sense of indignation that abortions are not rare and that these acts of horror demean the Golden Rule considering that he says he is a Christian. And where is his sense of indignation that women who use the Pill do not use it properly resulting in an failure rate of 8.7% as per the Guttmacher Inst-itute statistics. Using these and other Guttmacher Inst-itute data, this failure of women to use the Pill properly results in ~1,000,000 unplanned pregnancies every year. And the annual abortion rate in the USA is?? ~1,000,000 as per the CDC.

    And do males use condoms properly? No, as said failure rate for this birth "control" method is 17.4%!! Again using Guttmacher data, said failure rate results in another ~1,000,000 unplanned pregnancies every year.

    Bottom line: BO is still not aware of the basics of birth control and still remains the leader of the Immoral Majority and will remain so until he becomes a true Christian and one who respects and protects human life in all its forms and who at least emphasizes the proper use of birth control methods!!!

    The "Immoral Majority" you ask?

    The fastest growing USA voting bloc: In 2008, the 70+ million "Roe vs. Wade mothers and fathers" of aborted womb-babies" whose ranks grow by two million per year i.e. 78+ million "IM" voters in 2012.

    2008 Presidential popular vote results:

    69,456,897 for pro-abortion/choice BO, 59,934,814 for "pro-life" JM.

    Added details:

    The Gut-tmacher Inst-itute (same reference) notes also that the perfect use of the Pill should result in a 0.3% failure rate
    (35,000 unplanned pregnancies) and for the male condom, a 2% failure rate (138,000 unplanned pregnancies).

    o Conclusion: The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the pill and male condom have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the pill or condoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.

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    January 25, 2012 at 8:25 am |
    • ......

      repeat reality bullsh it problem? hit report abuse and walk away

      January 25, 2012 at 8:31 am |
  18. Tom Tom Alzheimer's Sam

    Nobody has the right to condemn atheists who are pro-abortion. Actually, they are doing our world a huge favor when they practice and strictly impose it exclusively to themselves.

    So go ahead all atheist kill those (soon to be) insolent creatures inside your women's bellies and make this world a safer and better place to live.

    Way to go....atheists!

    January 25, 2012 at 7:27 am |
    • Mirosal

      see... just another religious whacko trying to influence others with a 2000 year old book, when the laws of this country are clear. It's legal here. Move to Iran or Saudi Arabia ... you'll fit in better there

      January 25, 2012 at 7:31 am |
    • LinCA

      @Tom Tom Alzheimer's Sam

      You said, "Nobody has the right to condemn atheists who are pro-abortion. Actually, they are doing our world a huge favor when they practice and strictly impose it exclusively to themselves."
      Believers can reduce the rate of abortion in the US by 78% if only they followed their own dogma.

      You said, "So go ahead all atheist kill those (soon to be) insolent creatures inside your women's bellies and make this world a safer and better place to live."
      So you are in favor of abortion if it is to kill those that don't believe like you? Why am I not surprised?

      January 25, 2012 at 7:36 am |
    • Tom Tom Alzheimer's Sam

      @Mirosal

      Who says it's illegal, me? Where in my post said that? And...what about that 2000 yr old book? What's wrong with you? Pls. don't drive.

      @ Linca

      I could care less if believers would reduce it a thousand percent. What I was saying was, we should rather be very much grateful to you of what you have contributed for this world's future by not letting your kind to be born to wage havoc here on earth.

      And YES, you're damn right, I'm very much in favor about it. It will DEFINITELY save us and our posterity from terror and chaos they surely bring in the future.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:01 am |
    • LinCA

      @Tom Tom Alzheimer's Sam

      You said, "I could care less if believers would reduce it a thousand percent. What I was saying was, we should rather be very much grateful to you of what you have contributed for this world's future by not letting your kind to be born to wage havoc here on earth."
      Quite a few atheists were raised christian. Some of the most vocal ones on this comment board were. While it may be rare for an atheist to turn to religion, the other way around is quite common. All that is required is for some believer to open his or her eyes and mind. Atheists are not exclusive to atheist families.

      And while abortion rates among atheists may, or may not, be higher than among religitards, the rate is nowhere near 100%. Atheist will still reproduce and there offspring will more than likely also be atheists.

      You said, "And YES, you're damn right, I'm very much in favor about it. It will DEFINITELY save us and our posterity from terror and chaos they surely bring in the future."
      Rates of atheism increase dramatically with intelligence. In a few decades virtually everyone in a position of power will be an atheist. They may not admit it for a while to prevent scaring away the sheeple who they'll need for their votes. Religion will be be the exclusive domain of the simpletons and will be used to control them. But don't worry, you'll probably hardly notice.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:19 am |
    • RevelApocATHEISTS

      Although I find the original poster a lil bit odd, but one or another has a point.

      Upon reading all the comments of this article, it's pretty obvious that non-believers are pro-abortion/choice while believers are pro-life/anti-abortions. So instead of debating and convincing each other what we believe, why not practice and impliment it through ouselves?

      Believers should keep their babies while Non-believers could kill them inside their womb, simple as that!

      January 25, 2012 at 8:23 am |
    • Duh...

      "Believers should keep their babies while Non-believers could kill them inside their womb, simple as that!"

      I know many believers that have had abortions, this is not about belief.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • Mike from CT

      "may be rare for an atheist to turn to religion,"

      Wrong that above is very common also.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:30 am |
    • Mike from CT

      "Rates of atheism increase dramatically with intelligence"

      What are you basing that statement on?
      How does it compare to just the number of scientist that believe in a creator?

      January 25, 2012 at 8:31 am |
    • Tom Tom Alzheimer's Sam

      @Linca

      I doubt if you have read my comments or you just simply copy and pasted and tailed it with yours.

      I'm not getting used of quoting comments but let me return the favor lil bit,

      "Religion will be be the exclusive domain of the simpletons and will be used to control them."

      I think you shared same vision with known non-believer like your great granpa Darwin.

      Honestly I have less interest about him so I don't know the date he died. Was it "few decades ago"?.

      While your opinion supports (only) itself but facts, statistics and figures unarguably say otherwise.

      I'm sorry to ruin your party but, such vision will remain and forever be an obsession.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:48 am |
    • Curiosity killed the heretic

      ""Rates of atheism increase dramatically with intelligence"

      What are you basing that statement on?
      How does it compare to just the number of scientist that believe in a creator?"

      -Many studies confirm the inverse correlation between belief and intelligence, especially in the area of science.

      -You can't compare a rate to a number. But 90+% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences – typically the most intelligent among us, are atheists.

      January 25, 2012 at 10:22 am |
  19. stATHEITicS

    The greatest proof of atheist high abortion rate over believers, is there (atheists) population against believers.

    January 25, 2012 at 7:08 am |
  20. GeorgeH

    It was mainly the imaging technology that fired up the anti-choice movement, because it allowed the religionists to deceive many gullible folks into believing that embryos are tiny little people sucking their thumbs and waiting to be born. What the anti-choicers don't tell you is that those embryos are tiny, bean-sized growths that have gill slits left over from our fish ancestors and tails left over from our primitive mammalian ancestors. It's only several months into the term that fetuses actually morph into full-fledge humans with feelings and consciousness. Of course, religionists must pretend that the "soul" - which doesn't even exist - is magically inserted into the fertilized egg at the moment of conception because without that bit of magic their entire religion falls apart. That's their real motivation - to protect their primitive religious ideology from a new flood of biological facts that are rapidly making religion as outmoded as astrology.

    January 25, 2012 at 12:58 am |
    • fred

      What a materialistic reply. Most atheists are materialist because that is the only justification for godless behavior. Since there is no soul you justify death over life. These are small steps one takes to assure there is no guilt associated with killing a child under the age of 3 or a old person that has dementia. After those baby steps is it blue eyes or brown eyes that an engineered civilization should possess. Somehow the materialist is blind to the fact his own belief structure that denies soul puts his own life and the life of his family that does not meet the standards of a godless power structure at grave risk. That really does not phase a materialist because there is nothing to fear from the grave as it represents an eternal rest in nothingness.
      A materialist that spent his whole life attacking the Christian God for lack of evidence has mountains of evidence to support this nothingness. Bankrupt of intellectual honesty the blind materialist is totally unaware evidence of nothingness in his afterlife is based on the blind faith of an atheist.

      January 25, 2012 at 1:13 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"What the Pro-Lifers :) don't tell you is that those embryos are tiny, bean-sized growths that have gill slits left over from our fish ancestors and tails left over from our primitive mammalian ancestors. It's only several months into the term that fetuses actually morph into full-fledge humans with feelings and consciousness."

      Hmm. Late last night I posted an example of a mother, Susan Smith, who took her 18 month old and 3 year old, put them alive into the back of a Mazda and rolled the same car into a lake where both children were terminated. She declared that they were inconveniencing her chances to have a happy life with a guy that did not want a Ready Made family. Tonight you post that babies have gills when they are still in the womb.

      Maybe those gills would have helped Michael and Alexander when their mom, instead of terminating in the womb, decided to end their lives in the back of a small Ja'panese car. I guess the pro-choice'rs some deaths are different than others. :(

      January 25, 2012 at 3:12 am |
    • JeebusFree

      Awesome post!

      January 25, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Totally agree.

      January 27, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
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