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Alaska Airlines ends prayer cards on flights
Alaska Airlines distributed prayer cards like these on flights for more than 30 years.
January 26th, 2012
04:21 PM ET

Alaska Airlines ends prayer cards on flights

By Aaron Cooper, CNN

(CNN) - Passengers on Alaska Airlines will no longer get a free Psalm with their meal.

On Wednesday, the airline announced it is ending its more than 30-year tradition of including printed cards with short Bible verses during meal service.

“I will be glad and rejoice in you; I will sing praise to your name O most high,” was written on one card, over an image of foggy blue mountains. Another card featured these words over a beach at sunset: "Give thanks to the Lord, for He is good; His love endures forever.”

The cards have been distributed on trays with Alaska Airlines meals since the 1970s, according to airline spokeswoman Bobbie Egan. Since 2006, only passengers in First Class on longer Alaska Airlines flights have been served meals, so only a small percent of passengers received a card.

“This difficult decision was not made lightly,” the airline’s top executives said an email to frequent passengers. “We believe it's the right thing to do in order to respect the diverse religious beliefs and cultural attitudes of all our customers and employees.”

“We also know some of you consider the cards to be a tradition that reflects your own spiritual beliefs,” the email said. “At the same time, we've heard from many of you who believe religion is inappropriate on an airplane, and some are offended when we hand out the cards.”

Kathy Hosford, of Dyea, Alaska told CNN Affiliate that ““I take the time to read them. It really tells me the airline cares about the people sitting there.”

Others disagree. “Religious attitudes do vary,” Egan says, and “a large percent of residents in markets that we do serve on the West Coast say religion is not important to them.”

“We have been keeping track over the recent years and we are receiving more complaints than compliments” says Egan. Between 1998 and 2002 they received 242 complaints and 141 compliments about the cards.

The idea to distribute the cards in the first place came from a marketing executive who borrowed the idea from another carrier as a way to differentiate Alaska’s service, according to the airline’s statement.

But that view has now changed. “A business that aspires to be diverse and inclusive shouldn't have a religious agenda. Religious beliefs are deeply personal and vary greatly among our customers” Egan said in an emailed statement.

The decision to eliminate the cards was made last fall, she says, and takes effect on February 1. No decision yet about what to do with the leftovers.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Alaska • Prayer

soundoff (2,364 Responses)
  1. Landon

    If they didnt like them why didnt they just NOT read them God can and has helped every aspect of my life and im sure people that those people knew...the least we owe him is to be allowed on an airplane.

    January 26, 2012 at 11:53 pm |
    • sam

      Help me out here, I'm not sure who the 'him' is that you're referring to.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • The Phist

      If "god" wants to find me, it surely must know where I am at all times. Meanwhile, I don't need to see its propaganda on an airplane.

      January 27, 2012 at 12:12 am |
    • TR6

      No one is trying to keep any gods off an airplane. They’re just getting rid of the propaganda. I thought your god was suppose to be omnipotent and omnipresent… must really be wimping out in his old age if getting rid of a few sheets of paper and exorcize him from an airplane

      January 27, 2012 at 5:17 am |
    • Penance

      God can reach people in multiple ways. Like now, God has given every person that has commented on this a chance to believe or not and based on all the things Christians have said on here you have plenty of reasons to believe in God. Its our God, God is here for all of us. Jesus Christ died for all of us not just Christians and whether or not you accept him as your personal savior or not is your choice but you have been given a great opportunity to be apart of something that is much greater than just yourself. God will respect your decision and so will I but i can speak for all Christians and say that we would love for you to be apart of Gods kingdom.....love u :) lol

      January 28, 2012 at 12:47 am |
  2. TommyTT

    I have no respect for people who disrespect other folks' religious beliefs. That goes for some atheists (definitely not all, probably not even a majority). It also goes for evangelists who tell other people, "My religion is right and yours is wrong, so you should change." Respect is an important thing to keep in mind when evaluating the airline's change in policy. Here's a story that can help you understand what I mean. My daughter brought home a friend from school for dinner a few years ago. We spoke my own religion's pride that it helped introduce the belief in one God to the world. And my daughter's friend started to cry. It turns out that she was Hindu, believes in many gods, and I had just told her, "My religion is right and yours is wrong." Unfortunately, these well meaning prayer cards have exactly the same effect on people outside the Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition. They are disrespectful.

    January 26, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
    • George

      I'm sorry, but there is a right way to believe and a wrong way to believe. Too bad if it is disrespectful, but we are talking about saving people's souls.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:52 pm |
    • sam

      Tommy, I respect your point, and it's a situation that many others run into. Please ignore George....there's no right or wrong way to believe.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:57 pm |
    • texgirl2762

      I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. If you're too wishy-washy about your own religion, that's your problem. Fully espousing your own beliefs does not take away from anyone else's. It's always Christians who are expected to back down and deny; try telling a Muslim to do that sometime and see how far it gets you.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:57 pm |
    • Observer

      George got a faulty Bibles that missed the pages about judging others and the Golden Rule.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:58 pm |
    • sam

      Texgirl missed the point, which makes sense if she's actually from TX.

      January 27, 2012 at 12:08 am |
  3. Reality

    Dear Alaska Air,

    We applaud your move with a prayer:

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (References used are available upon request.)

    January 26, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
    • Gary

      Reality- so you dont believe anything you "cannot see". Wow, thats deep. how about air? cant see it so it doesnt exist. Wish you had time for more study, but as with most, you are working on some information and giving your anti-God view due to lack of study. we can go on and on, gravity, love, lust, passion...things that are there but you cannot see until they effect people. God can be seen in CHANGED LIVES and his creation. After 27 years teaching Biological sciences, its a no brainer.....take care my friend...that invisible God that made you and loves you no matter what you do, or when you say he doesnt exist.....When you finally have an encounter with your creator, you will never be the same.

      January 27, 2012 at 12:10 am |
    • Reality

      Some of the refences used in updating the Apostles' Creed:

      o 1. Historical Jesus Theories, earlychristianwritings.com/theories.htm – the names of many of the contemporary historical Jesus scholars and the ti-tles of their over 100 books on the subject.
      o
      2. Early Christian Writings, earlychristianwritings.com/
      – a list of early Christian doc-uments to include the year of publication–

      30-60 CE Passion Narrative
      40-80 Lost Sayings Gospel Q
      50-60 1 Thessalonians
      50-60 Philippians
      50-60 Galatians
      50-60 1 Corinthians
      50-60 2 Corinthians
      50-60 Romans
      50-60 Philemon
      50-80 Colossians
      50-90 Signs Gospel
      50-95 Book of Hebrews
      50-120 Didache
      50-140 Gospel of Thomas
      50-140 Oxyrhynchus 1224 Gospel
      50-200 Sophia of Jesus Christ
      65-80 Gospel of Mark
      70-100 Epistle of James
      70-120 Egerton Gospel
      70-160 Gospel of Peter
      70-160 Secret Mark
      70-200 Fayyum Fragment
      70-200 Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
      73-200 Mara Bar Serapion
      80-100 2 Thessalonians
      80-100 Ephesians
      80-100 Gospel of Matthew
      80-110 1 Peter
      80-120 Epistle of Barnabas
      80-130 Gospel of Luke
      80-130 Acts of the Apostles
      80-140 1 Clement
      80-150 Gospel of the Egyptians
      80-150 Gospel of the Hebrews
      80-250 Christian Sibyllines
      90-95 Apocalypse of John
      90-120 Gospel of John
      90-120 1 John
      90-120 2 John
      90-120 3 John
      90-120 Epistle of Jude
      93 Flavius Josephus
      100-150 1 Timothy
      100-150 2 Timothy
      100-150 T-itus
      100-150 Apocalypse of Peter
      100-150 Secret Book of James
      100-150 Preaching of Peter
      100-160 Gospel of the Ebionites
      100-160 Gospel of the Nazoreans
      100-160 Shepherd of Hermas
      100-160 2 Peter

      3. Historical Jesus Studies, faithfutures.org/HJstudies.html,
      – "an extensive and constantly expanding literature on historical research into the person and cultural context of Jesus of Nazareth"
      4. Jesus Database, faithfutures.org/JDB/intro.html–"The JESUS DATABASE is an online annotated inventory of the traditions concerning the life and teachings of Jesus that have survived from the first three centuries of the Common Era. It includes both canonical and extra-canonical materials, and is not limited to the traditions found within the Christian New Testament."
      5. Josephus on Jesus mtio.com/articles/bissar24.htm
      6. The Jesus Seminar, mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/seminar.html#Criteria
      7. Writing the New Testament- mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/testament.html
      8. Health and Healing in the Land of Israel By Joe Zias
      joezias.com/HealthHealingLandIsrael.htm
      9. Economics in First Century Palestine, K.C. Hanson and D. E. Oakman, Palestine in the Time of Jesus, Fortress Press, 1998.

      January 27, 2012 at 8:45 am |
  4. No Atheists in Crongress. Why?

    Athiests belong on the street with sandwich boards riduculing the cultural primitivism of believers; they should not be in Congress handling money.

    January 26, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
    • mickey1313

      and no thiests should be alowed to breath the clean air of the natural world, only the magic air that there fairy god made, oh wait there is no god, you ignorant phukwad.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
    • sam

      There are plenty of atheists in office, m'dear; they're not dumb enough to talk about it.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:58 pm |
  5. Jeff

    Joe,
    You talk about "misery" and "pain" how so??, I am a Muslim, my parents are not Muslims, anyways, i think the world is F'ed up, I think the World Needs to be religious tolerance, You may not Believe in God But you shouldn't Disrespect some-one that Does believe in God and visa versa. I do want to make a Final Comment and that is, atheists only seem to want attention on themselvs, they state they are offended by Religious artifacts ect, however, atheists are not at all offened by the U.S. Money "In God we Trust", They are also not offended by Christmas ect, but yet they are offended by Prayers, or some-one saying "God Bless You"

    January 26, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • sam

      Your statement is far too blanketed, and rife with Random Capitalization for some Reason.

      I don't mind prayer – hey, go for it, whatever helps. And I can't help but say 'bless you' every time someone sneezes because that's a knee jerk reaction for a saying dating back to the black plague. You have no idea what you're talking about, honestly.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
    • The Phist

      Incorrect on pretty much every account.

      Most of us aren't easily offended. Most of us have thick skin. Most of us have put up with religious intolerance for decades, as many of us are former believers. People accuse us of being satan worshipers for christt's sake. How can someone that doesn't believe in the supernatural think we're worshiping something when we don't even believe in it?

      Religious artifacts are meaningless. Therefore there is nothing to be offended by. What bothers us is seeing religion in places it doesn't belong. As for the "god" stupidity on our currency, I don't carry cash.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:47 pm |
    • TR6

      If Christians where as quietly Christian as they want atheists to be about atheism, there wouldn’t be any problem. Most Christians do not want equality, they wand dominance and control and feel that anything less than that is infringing on their rights

      January 27, 2012 at 5:33 am |
  6. Janette

    I thought Christians, Muslims and Jews couldn't get along – so not it's war between Christians and Atheists in America? Stop hating each other, life is short and enjoy it. Christianity has been around for 2000 years and will not go away, and Atheism won't go away either.

    January 26, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • sam

      I think the war in America is confined to the CNN blogs, honestly. LOL

      January 26, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
  7. Swede

    I hate religion, including the atheism belief! I know atheism is not religion, but I HATE it too. Just be secular, non-religious and shut the F up from both sides ! Proud to be living in Sweden

    January 26, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
    • EJW

      LOL Tröttsamt, eller hur?

      January 26, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • Patriarchae

      How can you hate atheism if what you describe (secular and non-religious) IS atheism? Just what do you think atheism is? It is simply the lack of belief in a god, and from what you want it sounds like your an atheist... yet you claim to hate atheism. Silly logic.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • md2205

      In a way, atheists do have beliefs and faith, because they do give great weight to what scientists say about the start and origin of the universe as though it is the only idea, while this idea is weak because it is very weak to extrapolate from our present universe in its present condition, back to a starting point which is so many years prior and would have taken place under such different conditions that we don't know if it could actually happen the way the scientists project backwards.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • Swede

      Är du också svensk? Vart bor du? LOL idioterna bor i USA vilket är världens mest kristna land med bara 1.6% ateister medans det finns 80% kristna och över 90% som tror på Gud

      January 26, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
    • Observer

      md2205,

      That's humorous. We look at the exploding pattern of the tracks of bodies in the universe and it makes no sense to you to mathematically trace the paths backwards to a logical point. Good thinking. The next time you watch fireworks, close your eyes until one explodes and then look at the pattern and be completely lost as to where the explosion started. lol.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
    • mickey1313

      You ignorant phukball. You do our side a great dis-service when you say dumb stuff. Secularism and athiesm are the same f-ing thing. Athiesm is the belief that there is no form of spirit, magic, or soul. Secularism is the belief that all life is natural aka, there is no magic spirit or soul. The only difference is that secularism does not typacally involve the ridicule of thiesm, where as athiesm does take the stance that thiests/thiesm should be ridiculed becuae it is a belief structure that is activally harming every single person on earth.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:53 pm |
    • md2205

      Science has two general methods of inference:

      1. Interpolation: Knowing the reaction under two extremes, we attempt to infer what the reaction might be at any point between the two.

      2. Extrapolation: Inferences are made beyond a known range based on variables within the known range. For example, suppose we know the variables of an element within a temperature range of 0 to 100. On that basis, we estimate what the reaction might be at 101, 200 or 2,000. Of the two methods, the second is clearly the more uncertain. The uncertainty increases with the distance away from the known range, or with a small range. If the known range is between 0 and 100, our inference at 101 has a greater probability of being correct than at 1,001.

      January 27, 2012 at 12:45 am |
    • sam

      Dammit, my grandparents were from Sweden, and now I feel bad for only knowing the cursewords.

      January 27, 2012 at 12:49 am |
    • md2205

      I am trying to reply to Observer but the website doesn't enter my posts. I want to point out that a person has to either think atoms came into being somehow by themselves, and somehow combined to form the universe, or existed forever, which is a belief and cannot be proven. And even if he says the atoms were created, why then not a planet or the universe, for the same logic. And if he says it was only individual atoms that somehow combined to form an entire universe, we can't assume that the same conditions under which atoms combine nowadays existed back then; on the contrary – single atoms behave differently than conglomerations of atoms do. Assumptions along these lines are what atheists hang their hats on but assumptions lead to false reasoning.

      January 27, 2012 at 1:30 am |
  8. Josef

    WHOEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THE QUOTES, MAY GOD LEAD THEM TO THE RIGHT WAY AND PUNISH THEM SEVERE!

    January 26, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
    • Seth

      You want your god to punish them fron not liking the postcards?

      January 26, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
    • sam

      But...but if he leads them to the right way, would he still need to punish them severe??

      January 26, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
    • EJW

      Alaska airlines could have handed out quotes from non-religious sources and then would not have offended anyone. They just wanted to save some money.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:45 pm |
    • BoAv

      So we are just ants that god burns for small wrong doings? That does not seem like a "loving god."

      January 28, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
  9. Faith

    Sam............Imagine the best possible place, full of total joy, no pain or suffering, sheer happiness, no needs or wants. That's where your Mom is. She's with God and all her loved ones. Follow her there...................mothers know what's best don't you know............................

    January 26, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
    • sam

      Follow her there?? You mean get on a plane and crash (crasch) like you said in an earlier post?? omg! God is going to be so p.issed at you, suicide is a SIN.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • Faith

      I'll pray for you too Sam.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • sam

      Go for it – it's never hurt anyone.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
    • Circular logic is fun

      @sam, not true. When parents pray for their sick children instead of getting medical care, people get hurt. When people substi.tute prayer for action there are definite consequences.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:52 pm |
    • Landon

      I pray you never change...there are so few of people like u in the world its depressing so props to u, ill see u in heaven

      January 26, 2012 at 11:59 pm |
    • sam

      @Circular – ok, true, I get that. That's more than prayer at fault, though, that's deliberate inaction based on belief in general. If someone's just saying a few words and it makes them feel better, and doesn't directly affect someone else, that's fine. Using it to replace medical care is just abuse and crazyface.

      January 27, 2012 at 12:01 am |
    • sam

      Landon! This is not texting! Use sentences!

      January 27, 2012 at 12:02 am |
    • Landon

      a lot of what ur doing is attacking with ur comments and i really dont see many other people doing it so just relax and only say stuff thats actually worth mentioning

      January 27, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
  10. George

    It is inconceivable to me and many Christians why anyone would want to throw themselves into hell like the atheists do. All you have to do is repent and accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.

    January 26, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • The Phist

      George, are you really a christian or just a troll?

      January 26, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
    • sam

      I thought he went to bed. Damn.

      George...let God figure it out. Your work here is done, soldier. Not sure what the hell that is, but whatever it is, you have done it, with extreme prejudice.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      George, it is past your bed time isn't it?

      George, are you sitting sown? Jesus is dead George. He has been dead a really long time. And Fred Flintstone is fictional. I am very sorry to break this to you.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
    • Patriarchae

      We're not afraid to "throw ourselves into hell" because we don't believe in hell. Is that really so difficult to understand or are you just unintelligent? I wouldn't be surprised considering that studies have shown that there is an inverse relationship between someone's level of intelligence and religious conviction.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • George

      You know, things do exist whether you believe in them or not. That is the nature of reality.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
    • Observer

      George,

      Why in the world are you here? Why work on atheists when there are FAR FAR MORE Christians who commit adultery by remarrying. Do the most good by working on the MUCH GREATER number of adulterous Chistians.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:45 pm |
    • sam

      I have to side with George on that statement...shocked as I am. Things do exist whether we believe in them or not. I mean, there was a time when humanity had no idea that quarks existed. Or bacteria...we used to think the 'night air' caused sickness. So the logic holds this once. Thank you, George, for this moment.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:46 pm |
    • mickey1313

      the day jesus god michael and gaberial come down and speak to me DIRECTLY, then I will "repent" However there is a fairly common thought that the thiests refuse to aknowladge, and that is absince of evidance is not evidance of absence, UNLESS the evidance should be abundent, then it is evidance of absence. There is no proof of any kind tward there being a creator, thus there is no creator. If I am taken to task when I die, I would call what ever being id there an evil hyopocrite and I still would not repent. This life is all about liveing. Live your life how you want, and do not let anyone get in your way.

      January 27, 2012 at 12:03 am |
    • sam

      ....but now 'go the fck to sleep'.

      January 27, 2012 at 12:03 am |
    • Landon

      christians sin no more and no less than athiests do we as human beings cant help but sin because we were born into a world of sin its how we react to our personal sins we pray and ask Lord for his forgiveness and try to better next time im not saying that all we have to do is say sorry to God and all is pardoned and then we can just keep repeating that sin because then we truely are not sorry...we just try to live like Jesus Christ did but i promise we will fall every day

      January 27, 2012 at 12:06 am |
    • sam

      Landon, God wants you to use punctuation.

      January 27, 2012 at 12:50 am |
  11. DP

    I love receiving these Psalm's, and it's Alaska Airlines right to do as they wish. It's their airline. If certain people do not like receiving them, then they can choose another airline.
    Alaska Airlines – please don't backdown on how you want to run your airline. Your simple but thoughtful customer related items have always been your strength.

    January 26, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
    • Observer

      Alaska Airlines is running their company the way they want. They responded to more complaints than compliments.

      Didn't you read the story?

      January 26, 2012 at 11:47 pm |
    • sam

      It's just not that simple. If it had anything to do with the airline's beliefs in the first place, they would not have backed down. What it comes down to is the almighty dollar, and how they can get the most customers. They never cared about the cards in the first place.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:47 pm |
  12. Daniel

    I hate religion, including atheism!

    January 26, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      Atheism is not a religion. Sorry to mess up your big moment.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:25 pm |
    • The Phist

      Being an atheist does not tie anyone to a religion. Sorry. This tired argument is a lost cause for you.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:25 pm |
    • Circular logic is fun

      I hate sports, especially not-football!

      January 26, 2012 at 11:46 pm |
    • sam

      I hate flowers, including shag carpeting!

      January 26, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
  13. William dodge

    Hate is so sad ,I be leave in god but if someone doesn't that's a choice they make .

    January 26, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • Hooligan

      most acceptable answer I have heard all night

      January 26, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
    • sam

      You didn't capitalize God, so I'm not sure which one you're referring to. There are SO MANY.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
    • Staring Horse with Tongue Sticking Out

      I be leave in belief

      January 26, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
    • Me

      Seriously?? You be leave???

      January 26, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
    • sam

      What about being leaves??

      January 26, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
    • md2205

      To Hooligan: It is not fair to accuse religious people of believing in a man in the sky. G-d is infinite and as such, is not corporeal at all.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  14. !!!!!!

    Blaaaah F^ck all atheists I wasted 3 hours here to argue with idiots

    January 26, 2012 at 11:15 pm |
    • Hooligan

      you believe in an invisible man in the sky and WE are idiots..

      riiiight

      January 26, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • sam

      omg, please let us know what name(s) you were posting under. I like to keep track!

      January 26, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • The Phist

      That's the christian spirit.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • mickey1313

      you believe in fairy tales, and you spew hate. If you did believe in god then you would remember that "judge not least ye be judged, and let he who is without sin cast the first stone." You thiestic POS.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • chrism

      !!!! Don't be too hard on yourself. Its a lesson you realize how so many people are just playing games when you try to talk to them here. They say what they don't believe just to bait you so when you respond they can insult and call names. When you think about it, and I encourage you to, imagine what it must be like for them? I mean can you imagine and actually hanging out on a faith blog just to put people down? God bless them. You have to feel a little sympathy when you think about it.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
    • sam

      Yeah, don't be too hard on yourself even if you're posting something like 'fck all atheists'. LOL!

      January 27, 2012 at 1:12 am |
  15. Joe

    Where are these stats per person, please?

    January 26, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
  16. chrism

    There are no true "atheists" thank God. Look at how many hang out here and good for them. Why not admit your genuine interest? You don't see people who don't believe in iced cream hanging around Dairy Queen.

    January 26, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
    • Joe

      What?

      January 26, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
    • Chad

      so very true :-)

      If an atheist believes that we are just the result of random chance and after you die there is nothing, than why would they care if religion makes other people feel better? Who cares? Why bother? Why waste their time yelling at people on a blog? Why so much anger?

      January 26, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
    • Hooligan

      that is the worst analogy I have ever heard. You just related lack of faith to ice cream and dairy queen?

      People of lack of faith tend to be those who debate and with a debate comes the topic... this topic in question is prayer cards given out on flights.

      Also, in reference to your bunk ice cream comment.. opposition of junk food regularly talk about the subject and it's negative effects.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:13 pm |
    • Hooligan

      that is the worst analogy I have ever heard. You just related lack of faith to ice cream and dairy queen?

      People of lack of faith tend to be those who debate and with a debate comes the topic... this topic in question is prayer cards given out on flights.

      Also, in reference to your bunk ice cream comment.. opposition of junk food regularly talk about the subject and it's negative effects.

      keep it comin

      January 26, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
    • sam

      I...I...I can't even...what.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
    • mickey1313

      You dumb dumb boy. First off, there are far more athiests in the world then monothiests. Second, this is a cnn site, which is a liberal site, thus I am not here to hear your "good points" there are no good points to thiesm. I am here to re-aferm to myself how f-ing stupid our nation is as evidanced by the amount of people claiming to believe in the old evil sky-god.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
    • sam

      Aw, c'mon, Chad, same reason you're here. This is pure entertainment in some ways. Sometimes there's genuine, thought-provoking discussion, and sometimes everyone just acts like an idiot. It mostly reminds me of the philosophy of religion course I took in college.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
    • The Phist

      Didn't you already post this moronic dairy queen analogy? Before you know it, you'll be a copy/paste queen. By the way, you were told how much your analogy sucked yesterday and given specific, logical reasoning as to why it sucked. It would appear you are incapable of learning due to your stubborn choice to post the same stupidity again.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • chrism

      True too Chad. Praise God. Check this out too – a little confirmation! You know how plain what I said is. Nothing too hard to understand and a VERY legitimate point. So look at our non-true responses. Two people are apparently so confused or who knows what they actually went for the lie of huh I don't get it. You think they really don't? ;). Lol. And a third has stated he has apparently just heard the single incomparably worst metaphor ever. Lol shall we believe him? Or doth methinks it was a protesting. ;). Well "atheists" what can I say. I'm glad your here. Maybe, just a thought, it would be braver to admit the truth than hide behind a facade? Eh. You're welcome.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • The Phist

      Chad, if you're so secure in your religion, why do you feel the need to come here to justify it to others?

      January 26, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
    • chrism

      Lol Phist how most excellent of you to remember my prior use of the analogy! Thank you, I'm tickled. However no no it was never refuted. It remains as true as before, my dear friend. And you know it! It may bother you to hear it. But it's quite a legitimate point.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • The Phist

      chrism, this isn't dairy queen. Nor is it a church. The belief blog is not specifically directed at a target audience of believers. Tell me, is there a large or small percentage of articles that invite people to convert or believe in religion? If you answered large, you're lying to yourself. In fact, this blog is not aiming to convert anyone. Most of the articles illustrate just how stupid religion is. Perhaps you're too wrapped around your pastor's pole to realize that CNN posts a lot of articles that negatively portrays religion, well, more or less it portrays religion for what it really is.

      If I want ice cream. I'll go to dairy queen. If I was actually interested in religion, I'll go to a church.

      This here.... it's not dairy queen or a church. Thus, your analogy is completely retarded.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
    • chrism

      Phist tsk tsk now you well know you're going off topic. I referred to "atheists" who most specifically come to many articles on faith and Christianity. Do you see ones that make Christianity sound negative? Perhaps it is your own biases that see the negative. Why bother at all though if you're an "atheist?". Nothing better out there to read? And even if you read an article, why bother indeed hanging out in the comment sections day after day. Gosh you might even see someone post the same analogy twice. ;)

      January 26, 2012 at 11:46 pm |
    • sam

      Dammit, now I just want a dipped cone. I hate you all.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • Observer

      chrism,

      "You don't see people who don't believe in iced cream hanging around Dairy Queen."

      Now we know why so many Christians jump on any story about gays. Good thinking.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:53 pm |
    • The Phist

      I'm posting off topic? Are you stupid or just being obtuse on purpose?

      You make the analogy that this blog is like a dairy queen, right? The implication is that atheist' presence here must mean we all have some magical interest in this "dairy queen." In short you are attempting to make it appear as though atheists have a deep, meaningful interest in religion.

      Here, we have an article about useless religious crap being booted off an airline. How about those two oral roberts stories? His son gets a DUI and now his grandson is taking part in gay marriage. Just a little egg in the face there, don't you think? Do you completely fail to see that many of these articles point out the hypocrisy of religion? Do you also fail to see that many of them make light of religion by posting articles such as yesterday's masterpiece about jesus and his sense of humor?

      These articles for the most part are comedy relief for atheists. We come here because it's funny. Not because we all want jesus in us. If I wanted jesus in me, I'd go to prison, no, wait, dairy queen.

      Your analogy backfired. The fact that you have to sit here trying to justify it by being a smart-ass is quite telling about it's legitimacy.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:59 pm |
  17. NoNo

    Every minute an atheist die and will be sent to hell ;)

    January 26, 2012 at 11:08 pm |
    • Joe

      1.78 religious people die per second and go nowhere. Because they're dead.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
    • sam

      Bleh, go away, Faith.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
  18. Jazzy

    I love when atheists capitalize 'God' and show respect.... to bad we won't capitalize @atheist@ and we won't show any respect for any of you who believe and worship satan

    January 26, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
    • sam

      God kind of ends up being treated like a name anyway...that's pretty much all that is. Plus, atheist doesn't need to be capitalized, so...sorry. I think you were trying to claim some kind of victory?

      January 26, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
    • Observer

      Jazzy,

      Do you have any real knowledge of English grammar and punctuation or are you another George Bush? God is capitalized because it is a proper name. Respect has nothing to do with it. Charles Manson is capitalized. Wow.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
    • Hooligan

      you love that people capitalize "God"?

      you really do pick petty victories

      January 26, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
    • Joe

      Personally, even if it's not "correct", I refuse to capitalize god. Christians have brought me nothing but misery and pain throughout my life. No respect... well more than Muslims...

      January 26, 2012 at 11:08 pm |
    • mickey1313

      That is why I dont caps any thiestic reference. I could not caps the term fairy goblin or ghost, why would I caps jesus god christ angel ect. But your pourpouseful disrespect shows your total hypocracy, because if old man jc was real, he preached peace and forgiveness not hate. But that (hate) is all thiests can produce. Remember there are many many more people killed by thiests every year (and have been for the past 2000 years) then there are athiests. Why, because athiests judge worthiness on how you live your life not what magic god you believe in. Remember belief aka faith, is about what you WANT to be true. Fact aka truth, is what is known based on evidance, not the lack there of.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
    • The Phist

      Charles Manson actually exists.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
    • sam

      Ok, but it freaks me out that Charles Manson exists!

      January 26, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • The Phist

      You have to admit, he is entertaining to watch : D

      January 27, 2012 at 12:16 am |
    • sam

      THIS IS TRUE. Still, it's so disturbing. There's no way he's faking that level of craziness after so long, and...damn. DAMN!

      January 27, 2012 at 12:29 am |
  19. john

    Reason and logic......

    January 26, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
  20. tony

    I believe in the power of the holy collecting plate. Which shows what a god cannot provide for him/herself.

    January 26, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
    • Chad

      well, certainly the collection plate is misused in many churches, but Christians are the biggest givers to charitable organizations overall.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
    • sam

      What? I heard Mormons were the biggest givers. Maybe that was a Mormon saying so, though....

      January 26, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
    • mickey1313

      tony to true, if god was all powerful, could he not/ would he not make sure his "flock" is well taken care of, and that they would not have to cut there own spending to pay for his building, which he could manifest all by him self? to chad, if you look it up. There is far more money donated to npos of non-thiestic origens then to the church, it can not be proven that all people who donate to non-church npos are all non thiestic, but for sure no non-thiests donate to the church, so you do the math. And to sam, are you high? Anyone who beleaves that jesus was the christ is a christian. All mormons are christian, you may have been thinking of the term cathloc (the most sinister of christian groups.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • Circular logic is fun

      @Chad,

      Given how there are more Christians than anyone else, I should hope so.

      Math argument fail.

      January 26, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
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