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"Those who reject the path to enlightenment, must be destroyed."
"Hallowed are the children of the Ori."
Prayer changes things.
`~~~The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.~~"
Yes and no. He said "On this rock I build my Church" "When two or more gather in my name, there I will be also" Paul the apostle often wrote that it was good to "gather with brothers and sisters" to stay strong in faith...
Flip side Jesus REBUKED the Pharisees for their "ritualistic false teachings" saying that they were showing off and not Godly at all...He said that the woman praying quietly was heard. I'm bashed by Christians for my views. What do I know? I was only raised and tought theology for 30 years. Theology of every religion. Jesus would not be happy about religion today. Imho. I'll start a riot in every building to get heard. I'm ashamed of the word "Christian". So I outreach all day, everyday, to those who want Jesus...NOT religion. Iamjenniferoxanne. I'm talking as hard as I can. Also JRoInCo on youtube. Thank you for hearing me...
Indeed, an I glow for the catholic faith!
Be the glow that shimmers through that heart of darkness.
So you believe the Catholic faith IS the heart of darkness? I would have to agree.
yep.. Fill the church with the light and warmth of god with candles.. fill the church with all the believers and each one hold a lit candle in honor of god..
It's got limited seating, so only the really devout ones should get admission.
Don't forget your candles..
Just wanted everyone to know that I am also just sayin'... When I use just sayin' it is my other personality coming out
and I am the prayer troll too
I thought I was george
The lowest form of human has to be some desperate lonely loser who steals a handle on an anonymous blog.
The good captain never posts such drivel. There's your sign.
So all your personalities are boring d!cks who post the same unoriginal BS...not surprising.
Try to read before you post sam you will look a little less like the ass hole you are
Yeah...I did read prior to posting...and still feel it's valid. Hard to tell which of you is the bigger douch.e.
Easy answer the biggest would be you sam congradulations
just sayin - "congradulations"
I hope that next year in 6th grade they teach you how to spell that.
p.s. don't tell anyone where you go to school... the school admin. would be so embarrassed!
typo webster thanks for the compassionate understanding.Tell us how is it being perfect?
just sayin,
You reap what you sow. Your acid-tongued att'itude needs a good (compassionate) whack so that perhaps you will wake up and will quit making a fool of yourself.
I'm BAAAAAAAAACK !
Webster kiss my asp
Great...now the dumba.ss either has a snake, or he's too afraid to use the naughty words his mommy and daddy told him about.
typo sam thanks for the compassionate understanding. How is it being perfect?
You had to use the exact same comeback twice? That's sad. Also, why would I have compassion for a little fcknut like you?
On second thought...since the S and the P are on opposite sides of the keyboard from each other, and you would have had to smash your head on it to make a typo like that, maybe I have to have a little compassion for you, since you're so fcking dumb.
was this an attempt to see the warmth of god's love? perhaps thats why its still frozen!
i can just see a priest now talking to a kid " come here, lets take off all our clothes, its the best way to stay warm!" "AH" the pedo-priest proclaims outloud "i'm sure glad i built this house of whorship out of ice!"
Money wasted as the "vomit-inducing" ped-ophilia and coverup will simply hasten the decline of all religions as they finally go extinct from their own absurdity.. It is time to replace all religions with a few rules like "Do No Harm" and convert all houses of "worthless worship" including this ice igloo to recreation facilities and parks.
An igloo Warship? What the hay???
Actually, aircraft carriers made of ice were seriously considered in early World War Two for the North Atlantic.
"God gave science to mankind"
You have no proof of that.
Prayer changes things
Even prayer to an igloo?
Prayer is conversation with God.
and since god is just an idea in your head or at best a personality in your head – eitherway, you are still talking to yourself! Whats worse is that most of you don;t know enough to answer back so your prayers go unanswered! god that must su.ck! lol
Catch a clue, people! By responding in any way to this flaccid little shrivel of a prayer pimp, you encourage it. Do not respond at all.
You should know this by now.
`The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.
don't study studies
studies are inaccurate
Study God
"don't study studies
studies are inaccurate
Study God"
If studies are inaccurate then all of science as we know it would be gone. Oh and by your own admission we shouldn't study God because that studying would be inaccurate, which is true since your god doesn't exist.
God gave science to mankind
~"God gave science to mankind"
You have no proof of that.
if god wasn't so inaccurate with details and events maybe there would be more credience...but since in the new test. compared to the old there seems to be a whole different god or that god has changed i think i am going to trust studies – at least they state the margin of error, the religious stand by the bible as fact, the word of god... it would seem your god is a moron who can't keep his story straight.
I suffer from delusional thinking and can't back myself up with real facts, but I believe I am right all the time!
God is all Truth and has given all knowledge of benefit to mankind, including science because He was asked for it in prayer by people He had a relationship with. If More people would honor God the sooner we would receive the blessings of God.
just sayin...go get a mirror and study your ass. The same material comes out of both ends of you lately.
"the sooner we would receive the blessings of God."
It won't happen since your god does not exist. DUH!
"receive the blessings of God".. exactly what is this blessings? will he be able to help amputees grow new limbs? or is that out of his job description.. like so many things he just can't do except demand the love and prayers from devotees
Yes snow. All things are possible when we work in cooperation with God.
God is always right
"God is always right"
You have no proof of that because there is NO proof your god exists.
God is evidenced in His creation
God is evidenced in His Son the Lord Jesus Christ
God is evidenced in the personal testimony of His millions of followers
God is evidenced in the fact that there are those that try to deny Him
Careful, you're sounding more like the prayer bot all the time...don't give your other handle away!
A few proofs of Gods existence that would be accepted in evidence in any court anywhere. That is not prayer sam those are facts. Prayer is directed to God, The evidences were directed to those, like yourself who are enemies of God.
@ just sayin ... if those 4 little lines you typed are what you consider "evidence", then you need to really brush up on the rules of evidence. You cannot prove the validity of your first line, so anything else that follows would not be allowed either. All you have are suppositions, speculations, and hearsay. None of those are admitted as evidence. Even your own moldy "holy book" has NEVER, EVER been introduced as evidence of any kind in ANY court case. Why is that, hmmm??
Circu mstantial evidence is allowed
each evidence stands alone so toss out the first mentioned or change the order
Scopes
you posted ...
God is evidenced in His creation
God is evidenced in His Son the Lord Jesus Christ
God is evidenced in the personal testimony of His millions of followers
God is evidenced in the fact that there are those that try to deny Him
You said circu'mstantioal evidence is allowed. that evidence has to follow a chain of logic. You would need evidence that shows that 'god' created anytihng at all. You would need to show and prove that jesus IS the son of a deity. Hercules was also the son of a deity, so circ'umstancially, he would have had to exist as well. Did Hercules exist? "Personal testimony" is nothing more than hearsay .. not allowed. They would have to show that they actually saw 'god' create something, anything. Those that deny ... in every court case you have 2 sides, nothing new there.
Ok, let me try speaking to 'just sayin' in language he'll understand better...HERP DERP; DERP; HERPA DERP DERP.
"The religious radio station Münchner Kirchenradio reports that worship services can be held in the church, but that the Catholic bishop of Passau has ruled out any Masses, baptism or weddings there for theological reasons."
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/bavarian-villagers-build-ice-church-/1
Huh?
This village (Mitterfirmiansreut) is less than a mile from where my late father-in-law was born/raised (Schlichtenberg). I'll bet that we have distant rels. who participated in this thing.
study these and the answers will come naturally – get the pun?
Schizophrenia – a long term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, innappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into a fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation. Those who suffer from schizophrenia are not aware of the fact they are suffering from faulty perception, innappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into a fantasy and delusion.
Delusion – An idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accecpted as reality.
Reality – the world or the state of things as they actually exist.
And what's your point? I can copy and paste definitions of words also. Btw posting the definition of crazy/schizo/paranoid/delusional or whatever you want doesn't mean that your view are "reality" and the opposing view are your definitions. If that was the case then I'd define the following:
Ignorant – lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
Loser – a person, team, nation, etc., that loses
Schmuck – an obnoxious or contemptible person
its ok little buddy, if you need a hug just ask god!
LOL
What good has the belief in god(s) done anyone? Ever? I think belief in oneself is far more powerful, meaningful, and useful to the lot then belief in anything else no matter how clearly imaginary or factual.
Parents teach morals and ethics not the bible, simple. Those who place misguided ideals into imaginary creatures are ill-equiped to raise kids yet are encouraged to do so.
If the number of christian psych ward patients are on the rise its high time we, those of intellect, should get the fu.ck out of here! Consider those religious sheep an experiment in how not to live. For example – Often used by many christians as an arguement for intolerence towards human rights...I pose that every religiously ran nation like that of Iran and Iraq are exactly what the religious in this supposedly tolerent country wish to turn this country into, where science and logically thought are frowned upon and knowledge of fairy tales are rewarded. Lets not forget that with religion held over fact you get an extreme nation of one sided misinformed citizens. And as in all things there exist extremes, and in society like these they are called fundamentalists. We have our own as well, but because they are ours they are tolerated. They then are shown as an example for our overall tolerance while being intolerant.Where does the hypocrisy end? Are we so sure this isn't a religiously ran nation while upholding laws that preach religious tolerance and separation from state. That would fit the bill for complete hyprocrisy and then at least they are consistant on one thing!
You folks have conveniently forgot that you took part in the slave trade, g@y bashing, witch killings, the inquisition, the crusades – i'm sure i could go on but i think these facts will fall to the wayside and once again be conveniently forgotten. If christianity has taught us anything, its that your god views us as sheep and will use us as such.Luckily for your kind you can sheer a sheep many times, however like a dog, you keep going back for your next beating! Perhaps you folks missed the part in sunday school where they discussed the bibles leaders being shepards...who tend a flock...but its clear that you people have more use to the whole NOT having ideas of your own..(ready for the pun).. god help us if you were ever to have one!
The horrors of mankind are not exclusive to religion. I said they took part in the horrors while preaching tolerence, caring, loving, comp@ssion towards other...you know, all the stuff jesus spoke about...religion is no better then anything but it canbe used however. If religion is properly weilded, i.e. cult leader – the pope, it is much worse then all others for its appeal to the ignorant m@sses is like food to the hungry!
God is an idea. Such an improbable idea that many have, to make the idea inarguable, said that the idea is beyond human comprehension and so by doing remove the need but more importantly the ability to prove and so make it an untouchable notion of truth based on an idea. How is that different from being delusional? You hold fast to an idea of an improbable, incomprehensible, and untouchable nature as if it is fact! Until you have tangible evidence for the existence of god, the notion of god remains in the realm of ideas. And thats a factual statement!
The majority of the world population believes in some god(s) type. What conclusion do you draw from this?
If your conclusion is anything but religion is harmful to the world as a whole, both its population and the planet itself, no matter how it makes you feel inside then i fear you have completely lost your grip on reality
You are absolutely ring, Mr. Dumb. You DO define "ignorant schmuck loser." Nobody else defines it better.
hippypoet- "its ok little buddy, if you need a hug just ask god! "
If you notice Reality....never never once mentioned anything religious in his comments. You shouldn't try to belittle his religious position when he never made one yet.
so your saying that offering him a god-hug was belittling him... so sorry. i will never do such ever again.
satan hugs here, get your satan hugs!
buy 1 get the second one free of soul!
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get your satan hugs here!
"so your saying that offering him a god-hug was belittling him"
Nope..never said that. I did however say your were trying to belittle a religious pov that he never made.
I'm surprised there aren't atheists with blowtorches trying to melt this place.
Remember global warming? They aren't going to build a giant freezer for it. It'll melt.
@J.W.,
We would never do that, as much as we find it misguided and strange, we respect people's ability to practice their faith.
Besides, the Atheists have science. Why would we use blowtorches when we have L.A.S.E.R.s?
Perhaps that is where the term cold day in hell came from. It will be a cold day in hell when atheists overcome Christ?
@fred: We've already won the battle of ideas. We're just waiting for the rest of you to realize it.
@BRC,
Perhaps, a solar oven, it would be more environmentally friendly.
Why melt art? What happens within is another story but it doesn't mean any church deserves to be burned (most are quite beautiful regardless of what they represent)...maybe they should be used for better purposes (housing the homeless for example).
Perimeter of parabolic reflectors aiming inward could do it. Then technically we didn't melt it, the sun did (hypothetically speaking of course).
@Truthprevails,
Mostly because when I was a kid I never quite had enough snow to build my own igloo.
Sharks! With frickin' lasers on their heads!
I truly must admire our dear Christian poster J.W., whose Christian spite is so pronounced that he has to go ad hominem pre-emptively, before anyone has said anything.
Christians are so angry and unhappy. They get so angry that others won't play their make-believe game. They just want to say mean things and take their toys and leave.
Would foul-tempered mutant sea bass do your evil bidding?
@Brc: You can come and use all the snow you want to build that igloo. Maybe take some back with you.
Oh yes I just love ad hominem attacks lol. They do tend to get a lot of response despite their lack of substance.
@Johnny Blammo: I'd say J.W is probably one of the few "honest brokers" with a sense of humor in the comments section, so cut him some slack.
Personally, I think he now sits firmly astride the fence and it's only a matter of time before he falls (jumps) into the unbelievers back yard.
Fred...Overcome christ....what is there to overcome? its just a myth....
For those who reject God I pray it is but a myth. The problem is that a myth does not reflect the same power we see from the Holy Spirit 2,000 years after what you call a "myth". The power of Christ through the Holy Spirit is the same as Paul described it in 37 AD. That same conversion that overtook Saul and transformed him from religious Jew out to slaughter any that would say Jesus was Lord to the key man is establishing Christanity as we know it today. That same power is displayed in conversions of millions of people last year who's lives turned 180 degress by simply asking Jesus into their lives. You want to call it a myth ?
Yes, fred. Cultural tales about supernatural beings that have no basis in reality are often called myths. See Zeus, Osiris, Odin and the rest of the thousands of gods that humanity has created and worshiped throughout history.
tallulah13
When is the last time someone called on one of your gods? They are manmade gods so they disappeared when the men who made them up died. We are speaking of God not gods. Even the Greeks with their monument to the unknown god tossed their gods aside when Paul spoke of the living God. I stand here telling you that I am a personal witness to the power of the living God to do exactly what God says he will do and you say a myth was responsible. I personally witnessed over 200 people that had the exact same experience and in communications with other churches there have been millions of such conversions exactly as Jesus spoke and you cry myth. Saul of Tarsus was not just some ordinary person he was a Roman citizen, educated by the finest scholars of his day, a zealot for the Jews and you want to make believe he fell for myth, Jesus who his fellow Sanhedrin leaders hated and crucified was a myth, Saul was dispatched to kill those who believed in a myth, Saul witnessed Stephen filled with the Holy Spirit and stood by as Stephen was stoned to death over a myth, Saul later called Paul established the church over a myth, Paul tortured and killed for refusing to reject a myth.
Including today people are being tortured and killed for refusing to reject the myth, Stalin, Mao, Poll Pot all chased down and tortured and killed Christians that refused to reject a myth. These atheists we concerned about a myth are what you expect me to believe, communism afraid of a myth. Men far more intelligent than George Bush would chase down innocent people because these powerful men and their State could not stand up to a myth. A myth so powerful in the year 2011 that the name Jesus Christ evokes fear, worship, revolution, love and hate. The name Jesus Christ will cause on this site boil with rage almost 2,000 years after His death and resurrection. The year is AD 2011 the year of our Lord and a president cannot be elected to the strongest country in the world who does not claim to believe in Jesus Christ as Lord. A country where a president must at a minimum carry a Bible and claim to attend church in order to be elected. You want me to believe that it is a myth. Every leader in the world is aware of Jesus Christ whom you call a myth and they call the Christian God or God.
A myth you say..............
@fred – " A myth so powerful in the year 2011 that the name Jesus Christ evokes fear, worship, revolution, love and hate."
Could not the same be said of Mohammad?
And how exactly does one claim a miracle now days when you Christians seem to want to blame every natural disaster on "the gays" or "the liberals"? Could we not add "Zeus" or "Odin" as the obvious causes of natural phenomenon? And is it really the number of years a religion has been around which determines it's validity of a faith? Because if so then you might want to take a look at Buddhism which has been around for at least 2600 years and has nearly 500 million adherents.
If these are the foundations of faith so many Christians hold dear no wonder it's in trouble. Thinking your'e right just because you have a majority of believers in your country seem's like a pretty poor way to judge a religion.
Fred, the hindu gods are much older than the god of the judeo-christian faith, and millions still worship them. Have you ever considered that you are following the wrong religion?
Are you aware that people died in the name of communism? Are you aware that Vikings were murdered because they wouldn't reject their own gods when their kings converted to christianity? Are you aware that the Druids of Britain were slaughtered by the Romans, because they refused to give up their own beliefs? Are you aware that literally millions died in the Americas because they wouldn't give up their ways and their lands to European invaders? Millions of people have died in the name of home, culture and of their gods. Humans have proven that they are willing to die for causes. Your god and his believers are simply not that special.
As for Saul of Tarsus, it is certainly your option and your folly to believe that he fell off his horse and saw god, just as some people believe that an angel visited Joseph Smith and gave him a whole new religion. Just as L. Ron Hubbard "revealed" memories and enlighted the world with scientology.
P.T. Barnum had a wonderful quote that perfectly describes people who support beliefs that have no basis in reality: "There's a sucker born every minute."
GodPot
“Could not the same be said of Mohammad?”
=>NO, any fear related to Mohammad is from man not an internalized mind set.
“you Christians seem to want to blame every natural disaster on "the gays" or "the liberals"?”
=>sorry, you confuse religion with the truth of God. Let there be no doubt that the lack of discipline and self control condoned by liberals in general should be of great concern to anyone. A people do not survive when there is lack of discipline and corruption is everywhere.
“Could we not add "Zeus" or "Odin" as the obvious causes of natural phenomenon?”
=>You know that is garbage talk but I am sure it sounds cute at some level. God can and does have power over nature but, not in the way you imply. Zeus would send lightning bolts across the sky because Zeus was a manmade god. God does not work that way although God has full power over nature as with the flood.
“is it really the number of years a religion has been around which determines it's validity”
=>We are not speaking about religion we are speaking of God. God has always been while generations come and go. The validity is that the presence of God is all about whether you believe or not. The validity is that you can see and experience the things of God if you accept God. Consider if you and I were best of buds yet I constantly reject you and doubt your worth. That is a long way from love and at that distance you will see very little if anything of God.
“you might want to take a look at Buddhism which has been around for at least 2600 years and has nearly 500 million adherents.”
=>God has not revealed himself to me through other faiths so I really cannot comment. I did note that the Gospel of Mary reflects Jesus in more of a Buddhist light unfortunately there is little evidence to show the Gnostic interpretation of her writings are correctly stated.
“Thinking your'e right just because you have a majority of believers in your country seem's like a pretty poor way to judge a religion.”
=>I judge most religions very poor and most in our country are far from the truth as presented by Christ. I do not think I am right because the majority claim I know I am right because of personal experience that matched up exactly with the written evidence we have in the Bible. I have not seen anything that would counter what has been revealed.
tallulah13
One thing certain is that humans are wired to make sense of their beliefs. So far God allows me to make sense of position in time and space. I have always felt detached from this shell and simply occupying it at this time. When God said I knew you before I knit your bones together in the womb and Jesus said we will return in unity with the Father everything fit.
But, thank you tallulah13 I hadn't noticed the similar actions by others like the Vikings so I need to sleep on that one. Enjoy and have good evening.
@fred – "any fear related to Mohammad is from man not an internalized mind set." I think there are about 1.6 billion Muslims who would disagree, though I understand the conflict Christians have in recognizing any similarities between them even though the two religions have the same root in Abraham.
"A people do not survive when there is lack of discipline and corruption is everywhere." I disagree. In the words of the fictltious Dr. Ian Malcolm "Life finds a way."
"God has always been while generations come and go. The validity is that the presence of God is all about whether you believe or not." Okay, so if God has always been around humans then wouldn't ancient peoples have given him other names more fitting to their tongue? Or is only our version of the three letters "God" or the English translation of "Jesus" the only allowed nomenclature? Zeus not allowed? No Odin? "What's in a name? that which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet..."
"God has not revealed himself to me through other faiths so I really cannot comment." He'd likely have a hard time revealing himself if you don't ever look into it with an open mind. It's also hard to know when he has revealed himself to you since apparently he is made up entirely out of the Emperors clothes...
"I judge most religions very poor and most in our country are far from the truth as presented by Christ." – There I agree 100%
""God has not revealed himself to me through other faiths so I really cannot comment." He'd likely have a hard time revealing himself if you don't ever look into it with an open mind""
=>Thank you GodPot, and I agree with you 100% you have found the key to eternal freedom in Christ !
I think that Mohamed did actually exist, I personally just don't believe in the religion he founded. I may be wrong, but I dont believe Mohamed performed any sort of miracles except for when he had supposedly ascended into heaven. I don't think they put him on a god-like level like Jesus is put on.
"Thank you GodPot, and I agree with you 100% you have found the key to eternal freedom in Christ !"
Nice cutting up job of the his post moron. Thanks for proving how Christians like to take snippets of text and exaggerate the hell out it. Duh! What an idiot.
I just think "Bavaria's Igloo of Worship" is fun to say. Although it would be even more fun if it was "Bavaria's Igloo O' Worship."
"Where believing in Jesus is cooooooooooool."
Haha!!
Bavigaloo!!
Electric Bagivaloo!
Diana is hot...the igloo is not. LOL.
Anddddd let the atheist trolls come out swarming.....
Nah, they already ran a "church made out of snow" story a couple months ago.
Don't eat the yellow church.
When the first comment calls out trolls, that haven't commented yet, isn't that in itself trolling?