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February 11th, 2012
08:45 AM ET

Catholics covering contraception on the state level

(CNN)– In states like New York, contraception is already covered at some Catholic institutions because of state laws. CNN's Mary Snow has more.

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  1. Tummy Reducing Exercises

    A fast option with tummy reducing exercise that works

    March 25, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
  2. Christians are not allowed near children and other living things

    Christians molest your children, keep your children away from them!

    February 13, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
  3. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Proven

    February 13, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • Nope

      Not Proven – The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs."""""`~~~~

      February 13, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • tallulah13

      I find it hysterical that instead of providing actual proof, you somehow think that you saying "proven" will make your claim any more true.

      The fact is that there is nothing that substantiates your claim and if you simply google "Followers of Christ" church, you will find that prayer has an abysmal success rate. Because they choose to pray for healing, they have a cemetery full of children who could easily been saved had they been taken to a doctor. But you keep on trolling your nonsense. I guess the the lives of those children aren't important to you when compared to your need to believe a lie.

      February 13, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • nope

      nope

      February 13, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things.

      February 13, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • Yup

      "nope

      nope."

      Desperation from the xtians, proving nope right. LMAO!

      February 13, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • Christians are not allowed near children and other living things

      Christians rape and molest your children, keep your children away from them!

      February 13, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • Your mom

      You all need to quit it right this minute or I swear I'm turning the car around and going straight home!!!

      February 13, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Powerful

      February 13, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Apparently prayer doesn't stop you from lying.

      February 14, 2012 at 12:34 am |
  4. Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
    Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
    Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
    Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
    Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
    Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
    Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
    Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
    Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
    Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
    Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
    Prayer dulls your senses.
    Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
    Prayer makes you hoard cats.
    Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
    Prayer wastes time.

    February 12, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • skid marks in my underoos

      Love it! How in the world did you post that without getting moderated?

      February 13, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • Ironicus

      I would guess, from the boldface type, that html formatting was used.

      February 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
  5. NDAA

    This specific law will make everyone in the United States a terrorist. The characteristics are,but are not limited to... Keeping more than 1 week's worth of food in your household,owning any type of gun or ammunition,paying in cash,physical disablements and disabilities,disagreement with government policies,opposition of 1 world government,opposition of the UN and agenda 21,opposition of the Federal reserve,living off the grid,being a prepper for disaster situations,growing your own food supply,etc...

    February 12, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Ahahhhahhhahahhaaa!

      February 12, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
  6. frank burnsf

    Let the bishops worry a little about the longstanding problem of pedophilia by priests, which they continue to overlook and shove under the carpet. Their worrying whether their women employees will use their insurance for birth control or not is beyond the pale. Do they also worry how their employees spend the cash portion of their pay packages? How hypocritical can you get. Throughout history, the Catholic church has never ceased to amaze for its hypocrisy and immorality. This compromise is fair. The bishops were given a yard, and they want not a mile, but the whole road. Let them whine and bemoan if they like, but reasonable people should pay them no heed. They have every religious freedom they could ask for. This is just a matter of whether their employees CAN have insurance, even when the bishops don't pay for it. They are being outrageous to imagine they can object to that.

    February 12, 2012 at 11:43 am |
  7. WilliamLBourgoin

    Hell, at the moment,health care threatens to grow to consume the entire economy of not just the United States, but most of the developed world. If you want to use your go to example of Europe, they too face rising health care costs. Check our "Penny Medical" to read articles on how to save money on health insurance.

    February 12, 2012 at 12:42 am |
  8. md2205

    To those bloggers who commented on the value of prayer:
    Prayer helps us remember about G-d's involvement in our life, and helps to establish our relationship with Him. He gives us what we have and expects us to use it all for good, and since our physical desires tend to overcome our intellectual inclinations, we need the strong reminder of prayer to overcome that. It is our connection to G-d. The Hebrew word for prayer is tefila, which means connection. If our prayer would not be a connection but would only be requests, it would be called bakasha (request). Prayer focuses us on what is important in life – what we are here in this world to do. When we praise G-d we are showing ourselves how great He is. Even when we are only asking G-d for what we want, that is fine, because it shows G-d we know that He exists and cares about us, and that we are dependent on Him for everything. However, we have to remember that He is not our servant, and He doesn't have to give us everything we ask for. Sometimes when we ask for something, the answer might be no.

    February 11, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Another aspect of prayer that few people recognize is that God is not limited by time. A prayer request/ response could take an hour, a day, a year, hundreds of years or even thousands of years. The Hebrew prayer for freedom from Egypt took 400 years, for example. We tend to think of answers in a very selfish way. Prayer is not about you and me, it is about Gods design for all mankind.

      February 11, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • Reality

      Free Will and Future are inherent to all the thinking beings in the Universe. This being the case, it is not possible to alter life or the economy with prayers. Statistically, your request might come true but it is simply the result of the variability/randomness of Nature..

      So put down your rosaries and prayer beads and stop worshiping/revering cows or bowing to Mecca five times a day or showering coins on Shinto gods. Instead work hard at your job, take care of aging parents, volunteer at a soup kitchen, donate to charities and the poor and continue to follow the proper rules of your religion or any good rules of living as gracious and good human beings.

      February 12, 2012 at 9:37 am |
    • Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer takes people away from actually working on solutions to their problems.
      Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
      Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
      Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
      Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
      Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
      Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
      Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
      Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
      Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
      Prayer dulls your senses.
      Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
      Prayer makes you hoard cats.
      Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
      Prayer wastes time.

      February 12, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • Flinders, the butler

      @Prayer Changes Things,
      If your god is not constrained by time, are you saying it answers prayers before they are prayed ? It IS "omniscient" right. If so, it knows beforehand what the prayer is going to be about, and, unless it is a jerk, would have ALREADY answered it. Why would it need a "plan" for the future, if it already knows the future ?

      February 12, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
  9. BJ

    The Catholic religion is the most rediculous religion on the planet. Seriously, The crusades? killing thousands of people? And people still believe it is true. ThePope is a fraud and has no authority whatsoever

    February 11, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
  10. AvdBerg

    98% of all catholic women use some form of contraception. That should have been the end of the debate but obviously not when the media gets involved. It is an issue that is after the wisdom of man and the spirit of this world and not after God (1 Cor. 2:4-6).

    For a better understanding of the history of the Catholic Church and all its deceptions, we invite you to read the articles ‘The Mystery Babylon’ and Popes and the Princes of This World’ listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca

    Since Obama opened Pandora’s Box on this issue, we also invite you to read the article ‘Barack Obama ~ President of the United States of America’.

    All of the other pages and articles listed on our website explain the deep hidden mysteries of God and how and by whom this whole world has been deceived as confirmed in Revelation 12:9.

    The Word of God is God (John1:1), it is truth and there is no lie in it (Hebrews 6:18).

    Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).

    http://WWW.AWORLDDECEIVED.CA

    February 11, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • .....

      CULT ALERT – This is a TROLL on this site, they are only here to peddle their garbage website and book. They are LIARS. Click the report abuse link to get rid of this TROLL!

      February 11, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • AvdBerg

      .......

      You don't know what spirit you are of as you are spiritually blind (Luke 9:55).

      For this reason our message remains the same: Ye must repent and turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan (whose spirit you are of) unto God (Acts 26:18).

      You judge after the flesh (John 8:15), the believers judge after the spirit of man. Even though we don't know your name, we know you and what spirit you are of (Luke 9:55).

      He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged of no man (1 Cor. 2:15).

      Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).

      http://WWW.AWORLDDECEIVED.CA

      February 11, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • bigot

      The problem with your posts is that you are quoting words written by MEN. Not words written by god.

      February 13, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • ...

      "You don't know what spirit you are of as you are spiritually blind "

      You have no idea who I am and you are taking that scripture out of context to convert it into a LIE!

      Your stupidity and LIES is why you'll be going to hell.

      February 13, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  11. Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
    Prayer makes you kneel to sicko guys who wear expensive dresses and abuse kids.
    Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
    Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
    Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
    Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
    Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
    Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
    Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
    Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
    Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
    Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
    Prayer dulls your senses.
    Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
    Prayer makes you hoard cats.
    Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
    Prayer wastes time.

    February 11, 2012 at 10:26 am |
  12. Flinders, the butler

    The NCCB, better known as the NOPP, (the National Office for Pedophile Protection) needs to shut up and tend to their knitting. The Spirit, working through "the church", (the people in the pews..the Body of Christ), DOES approve contraception.
    The bishops are just mad cuz they are increasingly irrelevant.

    February 11, 2012 at 9:42 am |
    • Flinders, the butler

      Tea time is at 4 PM. Professor Plum is our guest today. Stop by for some yummy crrrrrrrrumpets.

      February 11, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • PrimeNumber

      The bishops irrelevant you say? Obviously, your president doesn't agree with you anymore.

      February 11, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
  13. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    February 11, 2012 at 9:22 am |
    • AGuest9

      Do you lie about other facets of your life, as well?

      February 11, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • captain america

      I'll bet he don't try to hide his country of origin and pretend to be an American like some CS canadians do. There's your sign

      February 11, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • just sayin

      Prayer is the simple act of talking with God. Why should that upset a Canadian. The Canadian National Anthem is a prayer.

      February 11, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    • Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
      Prayer makes you kneel to sicko guys who wear expensive dresses and abuse kids.
      Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
      Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
      Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
      Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
      Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
      Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
      Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
      Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
      Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
      Prayer dulls your senses.
      Prayer makes you even more fat than you already were.
      Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
      Prayer makes you hoard cats.
      Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
      Prayer wastes time.

      February 11, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • Nope

      *The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs."""""`~~~~

      February 11, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Botyfltiger

      Prayer is only a form of meditation, your g-d does not do anything, you do and the power comes from you, not an outside source. I and my family, including children, are all Atheists, all of my children are honor students, and model citizens of their country, by volunteering to help the homeless, cleaning parks and one even is taking care of her sickly grandmother who can't even feed herself. Not one of them have been taught the lie about the big white guy in the sky watching them and that is why you have to be good. No, we are all good people, because that is the right thing to be, not because we fear hell and damnation.

      February 11, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • HotAirAce

      CA is now seeing a Canadian behind every post, but still not saying anything of substance...

      February 11, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Paranoid little twit, isn't he?

      February 11, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • captain america

      the dog crap i point out is actual, not imagined dog crap from actual butt in canadians. Why don't these bottom feeders have a voice in their own country? Could it be that Canada has had a belly full of these useless slugs? There's your sign

      February 11, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      February 11, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      *snore*

      February 11, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • Real American

      And as such, about the last thing I could imagine doing is obsess over Canadians. As international neighbors go, you couldn't ask for much better. Captain America is an embarrassment to real Americans. Not sure what he's so afraid of. He was probably hit in the nads by a hockey puck when he was a kid.

      February 11, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      CA: Outside of my post now, could you please point out another Canadian commenting here? Guest9 is not Canadian nor are any of the others that I am aware of but to clarify this, you have made your point about your hatred for my country heard and now you just sound like a child. Care to grow up and add something substantial to the articles on this blog for a pleasant change? In case you have not figured it out yet, we are still here regardless of how much you spew your hatred of us. Get over yourself...you only make yourself look foolish and if I'm reading the comments from people in your own country correctly, even they are getting tired of your rhetoric. And before just spewin' aka CA (CA has admitted this fact in earlier articles) says it...no moron, our Anthem is not a prayer.

      February 11, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • just sayin

      "God keep our land..." a request of God = prayer, talking or singing directly to God = prayer

      February 11, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Who gives a crap, just lyin'? Do you think every Canadian believes that a sky-fairy gave mankind science? I doubt they're all as stupid as you are.

      February 11, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • onehippypoet

      tom tom the pipers son
      stole a pig and
      now tom tom has one nasty std
      tom tom had unnatural relations with a pig and
      didn't use a con dom
      poor sick disease carrying tom

      February 11, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Poor impotent captain twit. I do feel sorry for you. Was your momma frightened by a Canadian moose? Or was she impregnated by one?

      February 11, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • just sayin

      Not only Canada but the overwhelming percentage of people on the face of the earth believe in God and are aware God gives knowledge to mankind. Less than 1% follow your "thinking" and most of those are morally diseased as well.

      February 11, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Dad was a vet, Keith. I used to watch him cut the balls off calves. They sounded a good bit like you, squalling at the top of their lungs as they were being castrated.

      February 11, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Prove it, just lyin'. Cite your sources. And then, when you've finished, prove that those who believe have any proof that god is real. Go ahead.

      Come and git yer crack.

      February 11, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
    • just sayin

      Tom tom since you are unable to comprehend the basic truths you are given why would someone attempt to repeat to you again the proofs. Educate yourself or get someone there with you that can explain basic concepts to you then let us know you have help. Do you know anyone who can help you?

      February 11, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So you can't do it? Thanks for admitting it! That's the first step to recovery, just lyin'! Congratulations!

      February 11, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Looks like you are a bit short. 16% of the world population as of 2007 were atheist/agnostic/secular humanist. That is likely higher now, as catholics and episcopalians are falling away steadily.

      February 11, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Come on, just lyin', you cute little monkey. Come and get yer crack. I know you can't resist. You are addicted! You must respond to my every post. And you will never post a single shred of proof! I command you!

      February 11, 2012 at 8:58 pm |
    • AGuest9

      "God gives knowledge to mankind"??????

      WHAT did you smoke in college???

      February 11, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • just sayin

      It has already been done , sorry you were not able to understand but your mental limitations are not my problem.

      February 11, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Crack monkey, I knew you couldn't control yourself. Poor dumb animal.

      February 11, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      justsayin...just because you claim that a majority of folks think they believe in a god...may not even be yours, does not make it real..none of these gods have ever made an appearance, of all the humans who have ever died..estimates of 102 billion through out history,none have ever returned from.either heaven or hell. why is that ? no "miracle" has been seen or proven. The Catholics appear to get "Mary" to appear on toast or a high rise window, or statues bleed usually in areas they want to increase attendance..again all bogus and fizzles out under scrutiny. as to all religious claims. Use your intellect and iunderstand the world of fact rather than fiction...it far nicer.

      February 12, 2012 at 12:38 am |
    • just sayin

      "it far nicer..." me stay with truth. you example no good. you speak with broken forked tongue

      February 12, 2012 at 7:48 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Pot, meet kettle.

      February 12, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • Nope

      *The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs."""""`~~~~~~~

      February 13, 2012 at 10:30 am |
    • tallulah13

      This "captain america" person just cracks me up.

      February 13, 2012 at 10:39 am |
  14. Brad

    Uniform health care coverage will not come into being piecemeal by being imposed at the level of the states. There should be no compromise on health care. First we should claim it as a right and as a people define its basic elements, which should include reproductive health care benefits. Then standards should be imposed at the national level.

    February 11, 2012 at 9:05 am |
    • Reality

      Some incentives to live a healthy life style and also ways to pay for universal health care.

      1. An added two dollar health insurance tax (or higher) on a pack of cigarettes. Ditto taxes on alcoholic beverages, the higher the alcohol content, the higher the tax. Ditto for any product shown to be unhealthy (e.g. guns, high caloric/fatty foods??)

      2. Physicals akin to those required for life insurance- the overly ob-ese will pay signficantly more Medicare and universal health insurance (unless the obe-sity is caused by a medical condition).

      3. No universal health care coverage for drivers driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs or using cell phones while driving.

      4. No universal health coverage for drug addicts or for those having self-inflicted S-TDs like failing to wear a condom).

      5. No universal health coverage for abortions unless the life of the mother is at significant risk and judged to be so by at least two doctors.

      6. No universal health coverage for euthanasia.

      7. No foreign aid given to countries who abort females simply because they are female.

      ( I believe Obama care does not cover those who develop skin cancer from using tanning parlors so there are already some restrictions. Time to add some more to reduce costs.)

      February 11, 2012 at 9:28 am |
    • AGuest9

      Boomers already have uniform health care coverage, it's called Medicare. Screw your children, right, Boomers?

      February 11, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • captain america

      Guest ain't a boomer its a bummer. low end pretender. There's your sign

      February 11, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I'd love to see how you're going to prove that women in other countries abort females just because they're female. Last time I checked, women aren't required to tell anyone what their reasons are for terminating a pregnancy in THIS country, let alone in another. How are you going to force another nation to invade the privacy of its women when it's not required here, Unreal?

      February 11, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • Reality

      "S-ex-selective abortion is the practice of terminating a pregnancy based upon the predicted se-x of the baby. The selective abortion of female fetuses is most common in areas where cultural norms value male children over female children,[1] especially in parts of People's Republic of China, India, Pakistan, Korea, Taiwan, and the Caucasus.[1][2] S-ex-selective infanticide is killing a child based on the child's se-x, usually shortly after birth (se-x selective neonaticide). In 1994 over 180 states signed the Programme of Action of the International Conference on Population and Development, agreeing to "eliminate all forms of discrimination against the girl child".[3] In 2011 the resolution of PACE's Committee on Equal Opportunities for Women and Men condemned the practice of prenatal s-ex selection.[4]

      A 2005 study estimated that over 90 million females were "missing" from the expected population in Afghanistan, Bangladesh, China, India, Pakistan, South Korea and Taiwan alone, and suggested that se-x-selective abortion plays a role in this deficit.[2][5] India's 2011 census shows a serious decline in the number of girls under the age of seven – activists believe eight million female fetuses may have been aborted between 2001 and 2011.[6] Some research suggests that culture plays a larger role than economic conditions in gender preference and se-x-selective abortion, because such deviations in se-x ratios do not exist in sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, and the Caribbean.[2] Other demographers, however, argue that perceived gender imbalances may arise from the underreporting of female births, rather than s-ex-selective abortion or infanticide.[7][8] Se-x-selective abortion was rare before the late 20th century, because of the difficulty of determining the se-x of the fetus before birth, but ultrasound has made such selection easier. Prior to this, parents would alter family se-x compositions through infanticide."

      February 11, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Cut and paste all you want, Unreal, but you didn't answer the question. How are you going to PROVE that women are doing this? Really, you are dense.

      February 11, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      While you're at it, genius, how are you going to PROVE that someone got an STD BECAUSE he/she didn't use a co ndom?

      February 11, 2012 at 6:00 pm |
    • Keith

      The Chinese abort the females. If they are only allowed one child-chances are, it will be a boy.

      February 11, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
    • Keith

      SHANGHAI, China - The lopsided male-female ratio in China caused by se-x-selection abortions is worsening, pushed up to 120 men for every 100 women, a government newspaper says.

      The report Thursday by the Shanghai Express newspaper on statistics from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences did not give an official explanation for the disparity, but cited unnamed experts who blamed it in part on pro-abortion atti-tudes that value boys over girls.

      "This kind of imbalance also surely has something to do with the family planning policy" of one child per couple the newspaper said.

      Foreign groups blame the one-child policy for encouraging couples who want sons to abort female unborn children or kill baby girls. The resulting shortage of women has meant that tens of millions of men remain unmarried and childless.

      On average in the rest of the world, 106 baby boys are born for every 100 girls, but more boys die in childhood and the numbers tend to even out by adulthood.

      China has enforced the pro-abortion one-child limit since the early 1980s to coercively slow the growth of its population.

      February 11, 2012 at 6:17 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And AGAIN, you miss the point. While studies contend that this is the case, how will the US defend withdrawing support from countries in which it 'believes' that selective abortion is practiced without any proof that it's being done?

      You are both dumb as a bag of hair.

      February 11, 2012 at 6:29 pm |
    • Keith

      Tom, Tom , My grandpa used to have a cow/calf operation. One of the cows had a mean disposition. You remind me of that cow. They called her, "Old Ugly".

      February 11, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
    • JohnR

      @aguest09 I'm a boomer and I'm at least 10 years away from medicare and fellow boomers can be as much as six years younger than me.

      Collectivizing the cost of health care makes huge sense in the case of catastrophic conditions which affect some not fully predictable few. That's like fire insurance. We all buy in and pay out only to those who incur the damage we all hope we don't and most indeed never will. But when you collectivize the payment method for routine care and, as happened in the UK, such elective procedures as tattoo removal, it's no slam dunk that people will come out ahead. In the UK, national health is paid for with an entirely separate tax that chops 11% of your income off the top. If you make $750 a week, $82.50 would be deducted from your paycheck over and above all other deductions. Socialized medicine isn't FREE at all. It's quite costly in straight financial terms and there are other problems of wait times, etc, known to dog socialized systems. It may or may not in the end be worth it. You have to crunch numbers and consider other benefits and demerits of the system. It's not a matter of the gov't issuing an edict and manna just falling from heaven to solve everyone's woes.

      February 11, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • JohnR

      The effect of s-ex-selective abortion is seen in much greater than normal male to female birth ratios. It's a real phenomenon. No doubt about that.

      February 11, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Gee, Keith, I guess you have no counter argument. You're desperate to make a point. Poor baby.

      February 11, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No doubt. But pretending that the US is going to withdraw aid from any country in which it appears that selective abortion is occurring is absurd. We don't require women here to explain WHY they are terminating a pregnancy; how are we going to force them to do so elsewhere? And really, why is it you twits are so frantic about this but female 'circu mcision' isn't even on your radar?

      I can guess.

      February 11, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • JohnR

      Who said female circ-umcision isn't on my radar? I can't say I'm hugely involved in either issue, but to the limited extent that I have stayed aware and involved, female circ-umcision has been a bigger issue for me. Oh, and I never said anything about cutting off aid to anyone. The best way to remedy s-ex selective abortion is to raise the status of women and thereby destroy the whole motivation for it. Altering the incentives is generally the best way to go for things like this. Indeed, raising the status of women is the best way to curb population growth WITHOUT ham-fisted government intrusion into family planning a la China. Educated, professional women the world over have of their own accord limited how many children they have.

      February 11, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Please enlighten Keith and the other dolt. They need help.

      February 11, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Captain, pretending that he knows something.

      February 11, 2012 at 8:58 pm |
    • Reality

      One method of emphasizing our disgust over selective abortion is to ensure all countries we support with our tax dollars have signed the Programme of Action of the International Conference on Population and Development who have agreed to "eliminate all forms of discrimination against the girl child.

      February 11, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, right. Cuz we know they are all honest and would NEVER sign something just to get aid dollars.

      Good god, Unreal, you're as dumb as just sayin.

      February 11, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • Reality

      Dealing with the STD epidemic in the USA:

      Publish on the Internet the names of all patients having a S-TD. The names remain on the list until a doctor validates the STD has been eliminated.

      Any other solutions?

      February 12, 2012 at 9:32 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You are simply too idiotic to bother with.

      February 12, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • Reality

      Currently, a perfect birth control/disease-prevention barrier system does not exist. Time to develop one. In the meantime, mono-mas-turbation or mutual mas-turbation for heterose-xuals are highly recommended for those at risk. Abstinence is the another best-solution but obviously the se-x drive typically vitiates this option although being biological would it not be able to develop a drug to temporarily eliminate said drive?

      February 12, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Highly recommended"? By whom? You? You never get any other kind, do you? What you do on here is basically the same thing: stroking yourself by cutting and pasting ad nauseam.

      And why should any 'eliminate' the drive? Pregnancy is preventable. So are STDs.

      Reiteration /= education

      February 12, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • AGuest9

      @Reality, thereby violating patent confidentiality in the HIPAA Privacy Rule.

      February 12, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Thank you for pointing that out to Unreal. Wouldn't you think it would already KNOW that?

      February 12, 2012 at 10:37 pm |
    • Reality

      Rules are amended when the good of the country is involved.

      February 12, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
    • Reality

      From Guttmacher:

      "Forty percent of pregnancies among white women, 67% among blacks and 53% among Hispanics are unintended.[1] In 2008, 1.21 million abortions were performed, down from 1.31 million in 2000. However, between 2005 and 2008, the long-term decline in abortions stalled. From 1973 through 2008, nearly 50 million legal abortions occurred.[2]"

      February 13, 2012 at 8:14 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Rules are amended"? Prove that the good of the country is at stake, you moron.

      February 13, 2012 at 11:26 am |
    • Keith

      They ended up "shipping" Old Ugly.

      February 13, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You do know what happens to steers, don't you, Keith?

      Wait, that won't matter to you since you never had a pair to begin with.

      February 13, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Ironicus

      Tom, I see you are having difficulties using html switches to bypass the filter.
      You should use html entities instead and save the switches for when you want to use html formatting.

      February 13, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Reality

      from the CDC-2006

      "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

      Saving $14.7 billion/yr is good for the country.

      February 13, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Maybe I should, but I don't care enough to bother with anything much on here.

      February 13, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, for pity's sake, Unreal, dry up. No one is going to override HIPAA to eradicate STDs when education will accomplish the same thing. Grow a fuskin' brain.

      February 13, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
    • Reality

      !!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!!

      To all overse-xed h-o-mo-sapiens:

      : The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill ( 8.7% failure rate, one million unplanned pregancies/yr) and male con-dom (17.4% failure rate, another one million unplanned pregnancies/yr) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute.
      Added information before making WARNING your next move:
      from the CDC-2006

      "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

      And from:
      Consumer Reports, January, 2012

      "Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

      Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

      "Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)

      Obviously, Planned Parenthood, parents and educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.

      February 14, 2012 at 8:42 am |
  15. Reality

    For full disclosure:

    "Twenty states offer exemptions from contraceptive coverage (usually for religion) for insurers or employers in their policies: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas and West Virginia."

    National Conference of State Legislators

    February 11, 2012 at 9:04 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      For full disclosure:

      Unreal is a troll who can't post anything but crap it cuts and pastes. It must have been a stellar 5-year-old in its kindergarten class.

      February 13, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
    • Reality

      For full disclosure: (keeping in tune with the topic)

      "Twenty states offer exemptions from contraceptive coverage (usually for religion) for insurers or employers in their policies: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas and West Virginia."

      National Conference of State Legislators

      February 14, 2012 at 8:38 am |
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