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Catholic parishioners voice different opinions on contraception controversy
The American Catholic bishops at New York's St. Patrick's Cathedral in 2009.
February 13th, 2012
12:08 PM ET

Catholic parishioners voice different opinions on contraception controversy

By Stacey Samuel, CNN

Washington (CNN) – As the fight between the White House and Catholic bishops over contraception coverage continues, parishioners attending Mass on Sunday appeared to be divided over which side to support.

“I feel people should have a choice. And, that’s where I stand, even though it might be contradictory” to Catholic teaching, said Ron Kramer as he left an 8 a,m. mass with his wife at St. Patrick’s Catholic Church in Washington.

James Class, leaving the same Mass with his young family, disagreed.

“They’re having to reverse engineer their way out of this problem,” he said, referring to the White House’s attempt to revise its contraception rule to address Catholic concerns.

Class said that even after a revision President Barack Obama announced Friday - which makes insurance companies, not Catholic institutions, responsible for paying for no-cost contraception coverage - he still worried that Catholic hospitals and universities would be indirectly funding contraception, which the church opposes.

The original White House mandate required religiously affiliated institutions, with the exception of churches, to pay for contraception for female employees, triggering a national outcry among Catholic bishops.

On Friday, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops released a statement condemning the revised contraception rule.

Polls show that more than 90 percent of practicing Catholics use contraception but that they are split on whether Catholic institutions should be exempted from covering birth control for employees in their insurance policies.

“If I was to work in the Catholic Church I would just know that, OK, [birth control is] not covered by insurance,” said Monica Forquer, another St. Patrick’s parishioner. “They don’t believe in those kinds of things, that’s how it’s going to be.”

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  1. Meh

    Dude, you clothes are like... so last century. Or the century before that. Or before that. Out of style, out of their minds, and in little boy's pants. Classic.

    February 15, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    • sosmama

      That's a disgusting comment. Guess how many coaches, teachers, janitors, daycare workers, random strangers off the streets abuse kids on a daily basis?!?!?! Priests are not the only people guilty of this, and to make a blanket statement like that, alluding that ALL priests are child molestors is BIGOTED and IGNORANT.

      I'm gonna start a new sterotype: "Those college football coaches. SICK!! All wanna play with little boys ding dongs!" Because, ya know, if one or two people in a particular profession commit the same crime, well then obviously ALL people of that profession must do it.

      February 15, 2012 at 11:55 pm |
  2. EvolvedDNA

    I bet the money paid for the dry cleaning alone of those god attracting hats would have feed a small African village for a week. And how much do we think those robes all cost..money wasted on gods though out history must be in the trillions. I am sure if he really existed god would have canned this lot centuries ago.

    February 14, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • james

      or, the fact that they're still here says something about the supernatural force keeping them here. after all, if they are all as crazy and deluded as you think, they should have devolved into nothingness quite a few centuries ago. instead, they have outlived every single major empire since the beginning of history, and are still going strong...

      February 15, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
    • Meh

      Its MAGIC! Really it is! See I can cast spells by waving my hands! Oh wait. I can't do that. But the magic invisible guy in the sky can.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
  3. DinoF

    Whoever wants contraception should have to pay for it. Free contraception is absurd.

    February 14, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • Meh

      You can bet 90+% of those Catholics will utilize the benefit. From personal experience back when in the high school years... those Catholic girls were darn frisky I tell ya.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
  4. Waitwhat

    Wait, did this article about contraception for women not include an interview with a woman? They only interviewed men. I don't want my husband deciding that for me or expressing my concerns about it!

    February 14, 2012 at 6:27 pm |
  5. WDinDallas

    The issue is:

    1) another attack by the Obama adminstration on the separation of church and state.

    2) Plan B and Ella being included in any "deal"

    This is not about condoms or birth control you dummies...

    February 14, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • *facepalm*

      1. The separation of church and state does not mean that people can use religion to justify doing whatever they want.

      And yes, this is most definitely about birth control. You obviously don't understand the catholic catechism.

      February 14, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • J.W

      So do you think that every religion should have their own customized insurance plan?

      February 14, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • Jonathan

      "So do you think that every religion should have their own customized insurance plan"

      If it comes down to that, yes. Our first admendment right comes before any imagined 'right' to healthcare. This country was based on the idea that every person as 'inalienable rights' that are not granted by any government (and hence can not be stripped from them by a government).

      When a new policy and a 'right' come into conflict, that policy must give way, or else nothing is left but tyranny.

      February 14, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
  6. Confused

    I'm non-practicing Catholic. The reason, is I refuse to donate to the Church while they still hide child molester's in their midst. But even when I was a practicing Catholic & was of child producing age, I used contraceptives. First time was while I was still a virgin & had a hormone problem that threatened my future fertility & the second time to prevent future pregnancies. I needed to prevent pregnancies due to health concerns & financial concerns both. My husband & I discussed our options & prayed for guidance & felt that was better to insure that I was there to raise our 2 children than to tempt fate by having more. He died in an accident before they were raised, so they could have ended up orphans if we had chosen differently. I've never requested by decision. It might not be the right decision for all persons, but then God did make us individuals & I'll take my chances with His mercy than all the narrowed minded people that think there is NEVER a reason for not preventing pregnancy or ending one. Who knows, maybe my orphaned children would have ended up in a Catholic orphanage run by one the molesters they've protected. Sign me, No Regrets!!!!!

    February 14, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Welcome to the fight!

      Believe in God aside, I think using these men as your moral compass is way past crazy.

      You did the right thing, and I salute you for it!

      February 14, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
  7. William Demuth

    What a sickening group.

    Degenerates who spread lies wrapped in the gold they defrauded little old ladies out of.

    I look forward to their deaths.

    February 14, 2012 at 11:41 am |
  8. Brother Maynard

    Looking at that picture actually really makes me feel sad.
    If you really think about it ... these bishops are the epitome of a wasted life. They spend all that time in mass ... wasted. All that time reading and writing sermons based on a mytholgical book... wasted . All that time serving and evangalizing on a empty void of a spiritual figure head ... wasted. Really think about it a totally wasted life.

    February 14, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • John Jacob Jinkleheimer Smith

      A religious life is a wasted life. Even Christians see the life of a devout Muslim or Mormon as wasted, just as they would see the Christians life as wasted.

      By the way, if you are religious, how do you know that every other religion is wrong and yours is right? They have strange old books too, and those books say your religion is false, just as your old book does of theirs.

      There is no evidence that your God exists or that your religion is true. No evidence. No evidence. No evidence.

      Why do you believe?

      February 14, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • William Demuth

      John

      Isn't your last name supposed ot be Schmidt?

      February 14, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • Observer

      Schidt, actually. But you don't knowJack Schidt, do you William?

      February 14, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
  9. GodPot

    Article aside, does anyone else find the gilded robes and pointy hats on the puppets of pomp and piety in the picture vulgar?

    February 14, 2012 at 3:06 am |
    • Mirosal

      At a quick glance, they all look like a chef's convention from a high-end hotel .... or chef contestants on the Food Network.

      February 14, 2012 at 3:21 am |
  10. Brad

    Why is the Catholic Church so upset about birth control? What about the various "altar boy" scandals that don't even make the front page. It seems like they should redirect their attention and money to a far bigger issue.

    February 14, 2012 at 2:11 am |
    • Mirosal

      A bunch of celibate men telling others how to live their bedroom lives. Yeah, that's a smart thing to listen to (note the sarcasm).

      February 14, 2012 at 3:23 am |
  11. gigi

    Helen Reddy – Who
    Sinaid O'Conner – old baldy -who
    Madonna- known for front wedgie and her Minnie Mouse on helium voice -like a prayer – I'm so shocked.
    Lady Gaga lays awake at night trying to think of ways to shock us. No confidence in her talent
    Nicki M. – I won't spend a dime on you. I'll put it in my envelope when I go to Mass. You deserve no respect if you show no respect for another person's religion. Nicki M. WHO

    February 14, 2012 at 1:57 am |
    • Been There

      "I'll put it in my envelope when I go to Mass."

      I do not recommend giving those people any money.

      February 14, 2012 at 2:09 am |
  12. RightTurnClyde

    Big shake up going on in the Vatican. Bishop versus bishop and gerrymandering the Curia .. big revolt. In 1500 it would have caused the Reformation ..now they trransfer them to Siberia. Apparently many are betting on Benedict to be gone soon

    February 13, 2012 at 9:03 pm |
  13. TR6

    You make me sorry I didn't watch the Gramys

    February 13, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
  14. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Proven.

    February 13, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • Curious

      Are you getting enough to eat? Hey! We're having pizza!

      February 13, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • just sayin

      e-mail a slice
      after you've said grace

      February 13, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Lying is unethical. You have no proof.

      February 13, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • just sayin

      Proof has been given, more than enough, did you miss it?

      February 13, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Powerful

      February 13, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Jesus cries when you lie, just sayin'. Best knock it off, or you'll burn in the lake of fire.

      February 13, 2012 at 10:55 pm |
    • just sayin

      Poor lost Tom,Tom. Sorry you can't keep up. We will be praying for you.

      February 14, 2012 at 5:59 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Lost? Hardly. I have GPS.

      February 14, 2012 at 9:40 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Tom
      You don't need GPS.
      Just pray aloud and ask Jesus for guidance.

      Wait a minute. I'm confusing Jesus with OnStar again....

      February 14, 2012 at 9:43 am |
    • talkback

      Meditation does, too. It's the same thing.

      February 15, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
  15. Reality

    Dear Catholic parishioners,

    Obviously, many of you are failing to communicate with your kids. This should help !!

    !!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!!

    : The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill ( 8.7% failure rate, one million unplanned pregnancies) and male con-dom (17.4% failure rate another one million unplanned pregnancies) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods (including combined methods) in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute.

    Added information before making WARNING your next move:

    from the CDC-2006

    "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

    And from:
    Consumer Reports, January, 2012

    "Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

    Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

    "Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)

    February 13, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      *yawn*

      February 13, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • Reality

      Dear Catholic parishioners,

      More information for you and your kids:

      Recognizing the flaws, follies and frauds in the foundations of Islam, Judaism and Christianity, the "bowers", kneelers" and "pew peasants" are converging these religions into some simple rules of life. No koran, bible, clerics, nuns, monks, imams, evangelicals, ayatollahs, rabbis, professors of religion or priests needed or desired.

      Ditto for houses of "worthless worship" aka mosques, churches, basilicas, cathedrals, temples and synagogues.

      February 14, 2012 at 8:32 am |
  16. derp

    That picture is hilarious. A bunch of grown men in dresses and silly hats. How does an adult take any of this crap seriously?

    February 13, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
  17. stormy miller

    the catholic bishops and the gop are both bigots and fools. 90% of catholics use contraception and so do the gop. so the fact that they seem to just want to bash the president on this policy no matter what they do is showing they do not care about the church at all. they are all playing politics. they both are looking like the fools and hatefilled bigots that they are. oh and just a note...all churches should lose their tax free status. that is complete nonsense

    February 13, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • Tom

      "all churches should lose their tax free status"

      you got that right!

      February 13, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • geraldh

      stormy, that was a pretty bigoted response you posted there. You sound like you hate Catholics.

      February 13, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • geraldh

      So I guess stealing is okay because some Catholics steal.

      February 13, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
    • William Demuth

      No Gerald, stealing from CATHOLICS is ok.

      Subtle difference you might have missed.

      Its like stealing from the Mob, but they have bigger hats. Anything they have they stole.

      February 13, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      Did you actually speak with 90% of Catholics or is that just a sweeping generalized guess on your part? The Roman Catholic Church is global with Churches in most countries around the world. Since every race is welcome how can you think we are bigots, when quite the opposite is true? In America where we have a liberal President violating the First Amendment in an attempt to force people to think his way everyone should object as the Bill of Rights applies to all citizens, liberal or conservative

      February 15, 2012 at 6:31 pm |
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