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	<title>Comments on: White House, State Department condemn Iran on pastor&#039;s execution orders</title>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Offeh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Offeh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no name under heaven given amongst men by which we might be saved. Jesus Christ remains the way, the truth and the light. No man comes to the father except via Him. I encourage christians everywhere to pray fervently for the spread of the faith and also for the peace and safety of the church. For those who are being persecuted happy are ye. Hold on tight and I pray God releases angels to deliver you out of all afflictions. Love.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no name under heaven given amongst men by which we might be saved. Jesus Christ remains the way, the truth and the light. No man comes to the father except via Him. I encourage christians everywhere to pray fervently for the spread of the faith and also for the peace and safety of the church. For those who are being persecuted happy are ye. Hold on tight and I pray God releases angels to deliver you out of all afflictions. Love.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Everyman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Everyman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pastor Nadarkhani accepted Jesus as Savior.  Jesus is a Prophet of Islam and the only Messiah or Savior in the Quran.  It is time for Islam to see Jesus as its only Messiah as the Quran says.  Salvation is only granted by God. the Awesome One.  Standing in the Spirit of the Awesome One, Jesus is the only Messiah and way to Salvation.  Mohammed is a simple human messanger as he claimed. The truth is before Iran and Islam in the Quran.  Pastor NadarKhani without knowing it, and unrealized by Muslims, accepted the truth in the Quran.  Jesus is Messiah, Savior.  Pastor NadarKhani should be freed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Nadarkhani accepted Jesus as Savior.  Jesus is a Prophet of Islam and the only Messiah or Savior in the Quran.  It is time for Islam to see Jesus as its only Messiah as the Quran says.  Salvation is only granted by God. the Awesome One.  Standing in the Spirit of the Awesome One, Jesus is the only Messiah and way to Salvation.  Mohammed is a simple human messanger as he claimed. The truth is before Iran and Islam in the Quran.  Pastor NadarKhani without knowing it, and unrealized by Muslims, accepted the truth in the Quran.  Jesus is Messiah, Savior.  Pastor NadarKhani should be freed.</p>
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		<title>By: K. H.</title>
		<link>http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/23/white-house-state-department-condemn-iran-on-pastors-execution-orders/comment-page-9/#comment-1078676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K. H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are right. This is shocking. An assault case is an assault case. If the judge wanted to make a point that the actions of the victim were inflamatory, he could have given a light or suspended sentence after conviction. In my opiniion those actions, that I have been able to find out about from the small amount of background that I&#039;ve gleaned, were not very inflammatory at all compared to say flag burning or funeral protests. It was a guy in costume in a parade - tacky! - just like dressing as nuns in parades when you aren&#039;t one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right. This is shocking. An assault case is an assault case. If the judge wanted to make a point that the actions of the victim were inflamatory, he could have given a light or suspended sentence after conviction. In my opiniion those actions, that I have been able to find out about from the small amount of background that I&#039;ve gleaned, were not very inflammatory at all compared to say flag burning or funeral protests. It was a guy in costume in a parade &#8211; tacky! &#8211; just like dressing as nuns in parades when you aren&#039;t one.</p>
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		<title>By: K. H.</title>
		<link>http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/23/white-house-state-department-condemn-iran-on-pastors-execution-orders/comment-page-9/#comment-1078674</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K. H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why can&#039;t I find a recent &quot;real&quot; news segment on this Iranian pastor&#039;s death sentence when I use the search bar? I only find a little in blog form. Congress just passed a unanimous resolution condemning Iran. ANYTHING unanimous from this Congress  is news worthy. Is CNN really the biased forum the right claims? Even this blog got the lawyer&#039;s name wrong. It&#039;s not Jodran. It&#039;s Jay. CNN has the know how to do a good job on anything it covers, and it has the resources and time to cover anything it chooses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#039;t I find a recent &#034;real&#034; news segment on this Iranian pastor&#039;s death sentence when I use the search bar? I only find a little in blog form. Congress just passed a unanimous resolution condemning Iran. ANYTHING unanimous from this Congress  is news worthy. Is CNN really the biased forum the right claims? Even this blog got the lawyer&#039;s name wrong. It&#039;s not Jodran. It&#039;s Jay. CNN has the know how to do a good job on anything it covers, and it has the resources and time to cover anything it chooses.</p>
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		<title>By: SPA Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPA Knight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen brother! Lent is a great time to reflect on our sinful condition and take steps to move toward God. Acknowledge your sins, seek forgiveness and reconciliation, accept God&#039;s grace, repent and celebrate in his resurrection! He has given his life on the cross for your sins which is the greatest act of divine love ever express in human history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen brother! Lent is a great time to reflect on our sinful condition and take steps to move toward God. Acknowledge your sins, seek forgiveness and reconciliation, accept God&#039;s grace, repent and celebrate in his resurrection! He has given his life on the cross for your sins which is the greatest act of divine love ever express in human history.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The message this Judge is sending is -You will be as&lt;i&gt;s&lt;/i&gt;aulted if you speak out against the muslim, if so live with the consequences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The message this Judge is sending is -You will be as<i>s</i>aulted if you speak out against the muslim, if so live with the consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What it shows is that Sharia law, whether you like it or not, whether it is consti-tutional or not, is HERE. Thanks to cnn and others for promoting it. The law was broken. Justice was not served. I&#039;m a Christian and I support the right of the atheist to do what he did. God gives us free will. If he wants to reject the forgiveness of sins and the grace of our Lord, he&#039;s free to do so, albeit to his detriment. I hope he&#039;ll reconsider. What I&#039;m afraid of is the support the US is giving in the UN in terms of blashemy laws on an international scale. This is happening. If it continues, no one-atheists included, will be able to speak out against islam in the US. Therefore, this case is extremely relevant. Why does cnn refuse to report on it? This judge needs to be removed. Cnn ignores this because their &quot;pet religion&quot; is exposed for the ugly, horrible religion that it really is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What it shows is that Sharia law, whether you like it or not, whether it is consti-tutional or not, is HERE. Thanks to cnn and others for promoting it. The law was broken. Justice was not served. I&#039;m a Christian and I support the right of the atheist to do what he did. God gives us free will. If he wants to reject the forgiveness of sins and the grace of our Lord, he&#039;s free to do so, albeit to his detriment. I hope he&#039;ll reconsider. What I&#039;m afraid of is the support the US is giving in the UN in terms of blashemy laws on an international scale. This is happening. If it continues, no one-atheists included, will be able to speak out against islam in the US. Therefore, this case is extremely relevant. Why does cnn refuse to report on it? This judge needs to be removed. Cnn ignores this because their &#034;pet religion&#034; is exposed for the ugly, horrible religion that it really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a shocking case out of Pennsylvania, an American judge has thrown out an assault charge against a Muslim immigrant based on Sharia law.

 The assault victim was the head of the Pennsylvania chapter of American Atheists, Ernest Perce V, who was marching in a Halloween parade as “Zombie Mohammed” next to a fellow atheist dressed as “Zombie Pope.” The former depiction didn’t sit well with Muslim onlooker Talag Elbayomy, who then attacked Mr. Perce. And with an admission of guilt by the assailant and video of the incident, it should have been an open-and-shut case.
 
But that’s not how it turned out.
 
As Andrew McCarthy at National Review reports:
 
Magistrate Judge Mark Martin, a veteran of the war in Iraq, ruled that Talag Elbayomy&#039;s sharia defense — what he claimed was his obligation to strike out against any insult against the prophet Mohammed — trumped the First Amendment free speech rights of the victim.
 
Yes, you read that correctly.
 
Al Stefanelli of American Atheists provides some more information, writing:
 
The defendant is an immigrant and claims he did not know his actions were illegal, or that it was legal in this country to represent Muhammad in any form. To add insult to injury, he also testified that his 9 year old son was present, and the man said he felt he needed to show his young son that he was willing to fight for his Prophet....
 
The Judge not only ruled in favor of the defendant, but called Mr. Perce a name and told him that if he were in a Muslim country, he&#039;d be put to death.
 
I wonder, if Elbayomy had put Perce “to death” not knowing that such an action in response to an insult to Mohammed was illegal in America, would Judge Martin have thrown out the murder charge?
 
Stefanelli also reports, “Judge Martin&#039;s comments included, ‘Having had the benefit of having spent over 2 and a half years in predominantly Muslim countries I think I know a little bit about the faith of Islam.’ ”
 
I’m sure. But it appears Judge Martin knows only a little bit — at most — about American law. Perhaps he should consider the benefit of spending time in a Muslim country permanently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a shocking case out of Pennsylvania, an American judge has thrown out an assault charge against a Muslim immigrant based on Sharia law.</p>
<p> The assault victim was the head of the Pennsylvania chapter of American Atheists, Ernest Perce V, who was marching in a Halloween parade as “Zombie Mohammed” next to a fellow atheist dressed as “Zombie Pope.” The former depiction didn’t sit well with Muslim onlooker Talag Elbayomy, who then attacked Mr. Perce. And with an admission of guilt by the assailant and video of the incident, it should have been an open-and-shut case.</p>
<p>But that’s not how it turned out.</p>
<p>As Andrew McCarthy at National Review reports:</p>
<p>Magistrate Judge Mark Martin, a veteran of the war in Iraq, ruled that Talag Elbayomy&#039;s sharia defense — what he claimed was his obligation to strike out against any insult against the prophet Mohammed — trumped the First Amendment free speech rights of the victim.</p>
<p>Yes, you read that correctly.</p>
<p>Al Stefanelli of American Atheists provides some more information, writing:</p>
<p>The defendant is an immigrant and claims he did not know his actions were illegal, or that it was legal in this country to represent Muhammad in any form. To add insult to injury, he also testified that his 9 year old son was present, and the man said he felt he needed to show his young son that he was willing to fight for his Prophet....</p>
<p>The Judge not only ruled in favor of the defendant, but called Mr. Perce a name and told him that if he were in a Muslim country, he&#039;d be put to death.</p>
<p>I wonder, if Elbayomy had put Perce “to death” not knowing that such an action in response to an insult to Mohammed was illegal in America, would Judge Martin have thrown out the murder charge?</p>
<p>Stefanelli also reports, “Judge Martin&#039;s comments included, ‘Having had the benefit of having spent over 2 and a half years in predominantly Muslim countries I think I know a little bit about the faith of Islam.’ ”</p>
<p>I’m sure. But it appears Judge Martin knows only a little bit — at most — about American law. Perhaps he should consider the benefit of spending time in a Muslim country permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ momoya: your first two objections may be a case of simply disagreeing.  i&#039;m sorry to hear that you had a similar experience to Dan Barker.  but as with many of the so-called new atheists, i do not find their arguments very compelling.  

1) Pauline doctrine - I also have spent a lot of time with Paul&#039;s writings.  I do not find it contradi&#039;ctory. I find it Christ-centered.  But I think we&#039;ve established that, since I&#039;m a believer.

per the question of historicity: what do you make of Paul&#039;s claim in 1 Cor.15:1-3, that 500 people saw the risen Christ at once? 1 Corinthians is widely regarded (by liberal &amp; conservative scholars alike) as genuinely Pauline - so that&#039;s being written within 30 years of Jesus&#039; death (if not 20, but most dating).  Do you think no one checked that claim out? Do you think people in those days were simply less skeptical than today? 

2) that quote is a typo.  i wrote/meant to write: &quot;Christianity&#039;s view of its story/narrative (instead of &#039;history&#039;) is uniquely connected to history (as actual historical events).&quot; of the other major religious founders, their teachings do not require belief in the events surrounding the reception of their ethical system in order for the religion to &#039;work.&#039;  Christianity uniquely is claiming that Jesus&#039; death &amp; resurrection subst&#039;itute for an ethical system.  He does what I can&#039;t.  Every other major religion says: &quot;here are the rules/ethics for existence.  Follow these to curry favor with God/Allah/Geist/Spirit/karma/etc.&quot; 

In that regard - my last sentence meant this: if you drop the life, death &amp; resurrection of Jesus, the ethical system is not Christianity.  to do so is to lose the meaning of the Christian faith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ momoya: your first two objections may be a case of simply disagreeing.  i&#039;m sorry to hear that you had a similar experience to Dan Barker.  but as with many of the so-called new atheists, i do not find their arguments very compelling.  </p>
<p>1) Pauline doctrine &#8211; I also have spent a lot of time with Paul&#039;s writings.  I do not find it contradi&#039;ctory. I find it Christ-centered.  But I think we&#039;ve established that, since I&#039;m a believer.</p>
<p>per the question of historicity: what do you make of Paul&#039;s claim in 1 Cor.15:1-3, that 500 people saw the risen Christ at once? 1 Corinthians is widely regarded (by liberal &amp; conservative scholars alike) as genuinely Pauline &#8211; so that&#039;s being written within 30 years of Jesus&#039; death (if not 20, but most dating).  Do you think no one checked that claim out? Do you think people in those days were simply less skeptical than today? </p>
<p>2) that quote is a typo.  i wrote/meant to write: &#034;Christianity&#039;s view of its story/narrative (instead of &#039;history&#039;) is uniquely connected to history (as actual historical events).&#034; of the other major religious founders, their teachings do not require belief in the events surrounding the reception of their ethical system in order for the religion to &#039;work.&#039;  Christianity uniquely is claiming that Jesus&#039; death &amp; resurrection subst&#039;itute for an ethical system.  He does what I can&#039;t.  Every other major religion says: &#034;here are the rules/ethics for existence.  Follow these to curry favor with God/Allah/Geist/Spirit/karma/etc.&#034; </p>
<p>In that regard &#8211; my last sentence meant this: if you drop the life, death &amp; resurrection of Jesus, the ethical system is not Christianity.  to do so is to lose the meaning of the Christian faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ momoya:
1) your response surprises me. most people do not find racism, pe&#039;dophilia, ra&#039;pe, etc. as potentially legitimate futures for our evolutionary existence - yet an honest evolutionist must embrace those things.  I hear you willing to say &quot;who are we to say that is wrong?&quot; is that accurate? if so, are there any such crimes which would ever be *always* wrong?

2) the life, death &amp; resurrection of Jesus actually sheds an incredible amount of light on how to interpret all of Scripture.  If, as Jesus says, all of Scripture is about him, it leads us to read a lot of difficult passages in light of who he presented himself to be - which was most clearly displayed at the cross.

for example, the cross tells me two things clearly:
1) i&#039;m much worse off than i want to admit (i deserve death)
2) i&#039;m much more loved than i ever imagined (he was willing to die in my place)

now, taking that as the hermeneutical key for all of Scripture leads to a better understanding of many difficult passages in the OT. Gen.22: the sacrifice of Abraham (which Kierkegaard called the teleological suspension of the ethical) is revealed to be a foreshadowing of God&#039;s love rather than simply a random, precarious dangling of ants over the fire. 

as Heb.11 makes clear, all these events of the OT were actually looking forward to Christ. and as Rom.8:32 says: &quot;if God did not spare his own son, but gave him up for us all, how will he not also along with him graciously give us all things?&quot;

The cross is the pinnacle of God&#039;s self-revelation - and as such, is the key to understanding the rest of the book.  to make a weak analogy, it&#039;s like watching the movie Sixth Sense.  if you turned it off before the last 10 minutes, you missed the whole movie.  but once you see the ending, you want to watch the whole movie over again in light of this clarifying information.  you realize that your as&#039;sumptions were incorrect &amp; you need to reinterpret most of what you gleaned in light of a paradigm shifting revelation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ momoya:<br />
1) your response surprises me. most people do not find racism, pe&#039;dophilia, ra&#039;pe, etc. as potentially legitimate futures for our evolutionary existence &#8211; yet an honest evolutionist must embrace those things.  I hear you willing to say &#034;who are we to say that is wrong?&#034; is that accurate? if so, are there any such crimes which would ever be *always* wrong?</p>
<p>2) the life, death &amp; resurrection of Jesus actually sheds an incredible amount of light on how to interpret all of Scripture.  If, as Jesus says, all of Scripture is about him, it leads us to read a lot of difficult passages in light of who he presented himself to be &#8211; which was most clearly displayed at the cross.</p>
<p>for example, the cross tells me two things clearly:<br />
1) i&#039;m much worse off than i want to admit (i deserve death)<br />
2) i&#039;m much more loved than i ever imagined (he was willing to die in my place)</p>
<p>now, taking that as the hermeneutical key for all of Scripture leads to a better understanding of many difficult passages in the OT. Gen.22: the sacrifice of Abraham (which Kierkegaard called the teleological suspension of the ethical) is revealed to be a foreshadowing of God&#039;s love rather than simply a random, precarious dangling of ants over the fire. </p>
<p>as Heb.11 makes clear, all these events of the OT were actually looking forward to Christ. and as Rom.8:32 says: &#034;if God did not spare his own son, but gave him up for us all, how will he not also along with him graciously give us all things?&#034;</p>
<p>The cross is the pinnacle of God&#039;s self-revelation &#8211; and as such, is the key to understanding the rest of the book.  to make a weak analogy, it&#039;s like watching the movie Sixth Sense.  if you turned it off before the last 10 minutes, you missed the whole movie.  but once you see the ending, you want to watch the whole movie over again in light of this clarifying information.  you realize that your as&#039;sumptions were incorrect &amp; you need to reinterpret most of what you gleaned in light of a paradigm shifting revelation.</p>
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