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My Take: Stop sugarcoating the Bible
The 17th century painting Judith Beheading Holofernes, by Artemisia Gentileschi, depicts a biblical scene.
February 25th, 2012
10:00 PM ET

My Take: Stop sugarcoating the Bible

Editor's note: Steven James is the author of more than 30 books, including "Flirting with the Forbidden," which explores forgiveness.

By Steven James, Special to CNN

(CNN) - The Bible is a gritty book. Very raw. Very real. It deals with people just like us, just as needy and screwed up as we are, encountering a God who would rather die than spend eternity without them.

Yet despite that, it seems like Christians are uncomfortable with how earthy the Bible really is. They feel the need to tidy up God.

For example, look in any modern translation of Isaiah 64:6, and you’ll find that, to a holy God, even our most righteous acts are like “filthy rags.” The original language doesn’t say “filthy rags”; it says “menstrual rags.” But that sounds a little too crass, so let’s just call them filthy instead.

And let’s not talk so much about Jesus being naked on the cross, and let’s pretend Paul said that he considered his good deeds “a pile of garbage” in Philippians 3:8 rather than a pile of crap, as the Greek would more accurately be translated.

And let’s definitely not mention the six times in the Old Testament that the Jewish writers referred to Gentile men as those who “pisseth against the wall.” (At least the King James Version got that one right.)

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The point?

God’s message was not meant to be run through some arbitrary, holier-than-thou politeness filter. He intended the Bible to speak to people where they’re at, caught up in the stark reality of life on a fractured planet.

Dozens of Psalms are complaints and heart-wrenching cries of despair to God, not holy-sounding, reverently worded soliloquies. Take Psalm 77:1-3: “I cry out to God; yes, I shout. Oh, that God would listen to me! When I was in deep trouble, I searched for the Lord. All night long I prayed, with hands lifted toward heaven, but my soul was not comforted. I think of God, and I moan, overwhelmed with longing for his help” (New Living Translation).

And rather than shy away from difficult and painful topics, the Old Testament includes vivid descriptions of murder, cannibalism, witchcraft, dismemberment, torture, rape, idolatry, erotic sex and animal sacrifice. According to St. Paul, those stories were written as examples and warnings for us (1 Corinthians 10:11). So obviously they were meant to be retold without editing out all the things we don’t consider nice or agreeable.

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I believe that Scripture includes such graphic material to show how far we, as a race, have fallen and how far God was willing to come to rescue us from ourselves.

God is much more interested in honesty than pietism.

And that’s what he gives us throughout Scripture, telling the stories of people who struggled with the same issues, questions and temptations we face today.

Peter struggled with doubt, and we hear all about it.

Elijah dealt with depression; Naomi raged with bitterness against God; Hannah struggled for years under the burden of her unanswered prayers.

David had an affair and then arranged to have his lover’s husband killed. Noah was a drunk, Abraham a liar, Moses a murderer. Job came to a place where he found it necessary to make a covenant with his eyes not to lust after young girls (Job 31:1).

It’s easy to make “Bible heroes” (as Protestants might say) or “saints” (as Catholics might refer to them) out to be bigger than life, immune from the temptations that everyone faces.

I find it encouraging that Jesus never came across as pietistic. In fact, he was never accused of being too religious; instead he partied so much that he was accused of being a drunkard and a glutton (Matthew 11:19).

Jesus never said, “The Kingdom of God is like a church service that goes on and on forever and never ends.” He said the kingdom was like a homecoming celebration, a wedding, a party, a feast to which all are invited.

This idea was too radical for the religious leaders of his day. They were more concerned about etiquette, manners, traditions and religious rituals than about partying with Jesus. And that’s why they missed out.

That’s why we miss out.

According to Jesus, the truly spiritual life is one marked by freedom rather than compulsion (John 8:36), love rather than ritual (Mark 12:30-33) and peace rather than guilt (John 14:27). Jesus saves us from the dry, dusty duties of religion and frees us to cut loose and celebrate.

I don’t believe we’ll ever recognize our need for the light until we’ve seen the depth of the darkness. So God wasn’t afraid to get down and dirty with us about life and temptation and forgiveness. And grace.

Only when the Bible seems relevant to us (which it is), only when the characters seem real to us (which they were), only then will the message of redemption become personal for us (which it was always meant to be).

We don’t need to edit God. We need to let him be the author of our new lives.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Steven James.

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  1. Bob

    This guy is one good think away from being an atheist. So close. He'll join us soon!

    February 26, 2012 at 2:29 am |
    • Wisdom4u2

      Not going to happen with this guy....he knows the 'Truth' and the 'Truth' has sat him free!....unlike yourself; you're still a slave to sin. How's that working for you?

      February 26, 2012 at 2:35 am |
    • Kendyl

      Wisdom4u, please stop with the sarcasm and edge, my friend. It sends the wrong message. Christian culture has offended and hurt many people. It's a sad thing. The only thing we can do is Love as Jesus Loved. Spiteful comments only perpetuate the antagonism.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:57 am |
    • Wisdom4u2

      Excuse me!!!! People like you, Kendyl, thought Jesus was being 'sarcasm and edge'....you don't get it, we are NOT freaking clones. Your idea of what a Christian is, is not what others understand it to be. You really sound like a 'control freak'. You're the type that run people away from the truth, not to it. I'll pray for you, 'friend'.

      February 26, 2012 at 3:03 am |
    • Kendyl

      Woah. I didn't mean to offend you at all. I sincerely apologize if I did. I just didn't want your tone to be misinterpreted. There's no need to attack me.

      February 26, 2012 at 3:23 am |
    • *facepalm*

      ".unlike yourself; you're still a slave to sin. "

      So much for that whole 'judge not lest ye be judged thing'. @Wisdom, have you actually ever read the bible?

      February 26, 2012 at 3:23 am |
    • Wisdom4u2

      face palm ~~~ say what you want, I was only presenting what is written in the Bible. Romans 6:16 "Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey–whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?"

      I said I LOVE the Bible.
      YOU need to read it before making a lame comment like you did. duhhhh

      February 26, 2012 at 3:39 am |
    • DOSman

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=688111496234161611

      February 26, 2012 at 4:05 am |
    • FRANK

      Being atheist is like jumping off the roof of a sky scrapper and waving to all the people in the windows on their way down yelling "SO FAR, SO GOOD!"

      Same Principle.

      February 26, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • FRANK

      I have an idea author. In your next article why dont you write about all the Christians being slaughtered all over the world at the hands of Muzlims like NEWSWEEK had the balllls to do? People would rather here the TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM than all this ancient history BS on so at least the readers might be able to protect their children from ISLAM.

      February 26, 2012 at 10:14 am |
    • Jesus

      How anyone can find true and original wisdom in this Babble is a mystery to me.

      February 26, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • David

      Kendyl, you're off base on this one. The atheists can benefit from the verbal repartee. Jousting with them effectively makes them think outside their box. The only thing they're often used to is hearing from Christians is rather dull-witted apologia from people whose hearts are in the right place but who lack any theological or philosophical chops. They don't respect that, but they do respect wit because they see themselves as so incredibly witty. Knock them off their high horse and it shakes their confidence in the supremacy of their own cosmically important intelligence. By the way, I know this because I was an atheist kid myself. God bless!

      February 26, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • MandoZink

      Some think this biased because he doesn't talk about the cruelty of other religions too. The overall story is a lengthy one. This chapter just happens to be about Christianity. There are many religions to cover cover here, but this is just one. We could have started this historical story with a general view of all religions, then get specific, one-by-one. Sometimes I think it serves little purpose to point what this article does, as it awakens no one except those who already see this. Those offended by this just rally around their beliefs even stronger.

      February 26, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • sooner08

      Define wisdom.

      February 26, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • George

      Wisdom, try "set." It takes a moron to grasp onto fiction as a means of life. Good luck with your make-believe existence.

      February 26, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
    • Stan

      @sooner08... knowledge is understanding that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • ThePROFESS10NAL

      George, to steal a word from the feeble minded imbeciles "Amen" to your comment LOL.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:09 am |
  2. There. Are. No. Gods!

    CNN = Christian News Network now? Is it in vogue to believe in fables so wholeheartedly? It would seem so. Remember, without physical proof all you religious morons have to stand on is faith. And the definition of faith is belief that is not based on proof! Look it up if you doubt me. There. Are. No. Gods!

    February 26, 2012 at 2:28 am |
    • The Deist

      Translation: I'm bitter because God never answered me and bad things happened and it's all His fault. So I'll just not believe in Him because I'm mad.

      Grow up. No one who is comfortable with their beliefs feels to need to belittle and push down someone else. You're not better than the Christian who proselytizes door to door.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:53 am |
    • There. Are. No. Gods!

      Sounds like you are projecting. I am sorry you feel as such. Do not blame your made up god, it is all your fault. This is the problem with your religion. You do not know how to take responsibility for your own failures. There. Are. No. Gods! Hope you get your life together some day. Once you dump the fables it might actually happen.

      February 26, 2012 at 3:25 am |
    • DOSman

      Physical science is happening today ...

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=688111496234161611

      February 26, 2012 at 4:08 am |
    • *facepalm*

      @DOSman,

      Please stop it with the spam. Really, grow up.

      February 26, 2012 at 4:10 am |
    • Relationship not Religion

      Psalm 14:1-3 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."

      February 26, 2012 at 5:40 am |
    • There_Are_No_Gods!

      Watched your movie, what a load of creationist garbage! These people are bought and payed for by the church and this is obvious! How can these "scientists" recreate the exact conditions (as they put it) of the Earth before any person existed? They can not, their data is flawed and directed by those that are paying for the film. There. Are. No. Gods! And you know it!

      February 26, 2012 at 5:45 am |
    • Daniel

      Evilsolution or is it evolution is by far harder to prove,and takes more faith to believe that we came from nothing.I think that is moronic and so do most most of America if you can place much weight in polls.Do we slander you every time your belief system is mentioned(and it is a belief whether you admit it or not).No we don't,if you are so Intelligent,why waste your valuable life on "morons" especially if these few petty years are all you have?Jesus/God is real and Loves you my friend and one day you will admit this; why not do it now before it's to late for redemption.In Jesus Name i pray for you an others of the same opinion.

      February 26, 2012 at 8:53 am |
    • cheesy

      The reason God wants us to believe without proof is because that is what brings him the most glory. God has told us to believe in something that is too crazy to be true. But when we do trust him and belive it, it shows our respect and trust in him. Believing in something that is obvious doesnt require any trust. Once you trust his word, he will show Himself to you and you will have your proof!

      February 26, 2012 at 9:07 am |
    • Bumble Stiltkens

      What? Maybe it is a gas leak seeping up from the depths beneath your bed making you so, next thing you know the oceans will drain into the volcanoes and we can all have a nice steam.

      February 26, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • sooner08

      Oh there are gods alright, the problem is figuring out which one we're really worshiping.

      February 26, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • sooner08

      and the problem is not god, it's religion.

      February 26, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • glj

      I have to ask a question to the atheists out there - this is an article about the bible, you do not believe in the bible. Therefore, why do you feel compelled to comment about the bible. It seems to me the atheists are trying to shove their non-belief down everyone's throats, just as they 'say' christians try to shove their beliefs down the atheists throats.

      February 26, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Jack_of_Arts

      Again you prove that Atheism is now the new religion in this Century. You folks are as fanatically driven to is disprove the existence of spirituality or an afterlife as any Muslim, Evangelical Christian, or Jew. Welcome to the religious world! Prepare to be disproven with equal amounts of passion and vitriol!!

      February 26, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
    • ThePROFESS10NAL

      Jack, except when we disagree with you... we just make fun of you and laugh at how pathetic you are. We don't go around killing people for believing in the tooth fairy, santa claus, or jesus.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • CASocaler

      "Remember, without physical proof all you religious morons have to stand on is faith."
      There is plenty of proof if you are willing to look, dig in, hear what challenges your preconceptions and consider with a reasonable mind what is plausible. Let's remember something that you probably stand by is that without God all this stuff around us came from nothing. WHERE'S THE PROOF??? Science has never duplicated SOMETHING COMING FROM NOTHING. Don't be so quick to open your mouth with such harsh words because you sit with the rest of us in having no proof to that degree. Why not try Why Christianity is the ONLY true religion from http://www.toptenproofs.com and the other resources there. But if you're not willing to hear the truth you'll never get there.

      February 27, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
  3. Kingofthenet

    God REALLY likes Human Excrement, not sure why?

    February 26, 2012 at 2:26 am |
    • Fritz Hohenheim

      Probably because "god created men in his own image" that measn A) not women and B) he craps just like us. That must be a mighty pile of that stuff you cant mention on CNN, I wonder where it goes? Maybe thats what supermassive black holes are for? God's toilet?

      February 26, 2012 at 2:53 am |
    • mcrunner34

      It's interesting to me that God gets blamed for the free will decisions of human beings. It's also interesting to me that, when people cause their own suffering or when cause each other to suffer, we blame it on God. Human excrement occurs because people don't pursue God's ways. God didn't make women subordinate, they were equal prior to the fall. God didn't create corrupt culture, people did that when they were disconnected from the Creator.Humans started killing each other as an act of free will. If humans didn't have free will, they would blame God for making robot-like creatures.

      February 26, 2012 at 8:55 am |
    • Bumble Stiltkens

      Still lost to putting the word "men" into its relevant context even. Give me a break implied is perfection, the duality empirical is such the view I only see, yet the standard is always the same singular function accepted by the "educated" elite that gave you the standard of publishing, publishing's one function of linguistic. Whatever I stupid i forget things like math, analyticz and the fact I started studying it (lost thought) when I was seven. Owe yay whatever gets them paid in negative nothing currencies of consumption's legal like licensing of elite smart like people know one mathematical equation, is the besteestist since Godfpfff. And the 2nd grade dropout says, whatever gets you paid buddy. I am not saying it, silly Canadians, ey. Cause and effect? Phine.

      February 26, 2012 at 10:05 am |
    • ViperGuy

      God does not like to destroy anyone. But of his four qualities, Love, Justice, Wisdom, and Power, his quality of Justice can not be ignored. All those people that did die, deserved to die. Perhaps an individual who doesn't understand what he is reading would be quick to assume it was actually an injustice, but in every case, those people were warned ahead of time. They chose their wrongful course and were punished for it. Those that adhered to God's commands were spared. But that doesn't mean they too didn't deserve of death. Everyone that sins deserves to die. Only through the ransom sacrifice can a person actually be allowed the chance to live again. And that ransom retroactively gave the provision for those who died in the past, whether is be by the hand of God or not, to one day live again. Look up Hebrews 2:17.

      February 26, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • Kat

      @Viper So an infant with cancer deserves to die? Also, you assume death is a punishment. All instances of life eventually die, even trees and fungus that are thousands of years old. I wonder what their sins are. Seriously, it sounds like you're allergic to logic.

      February 27, 2012 at 1:29 am |
  4. skeptic

    Delusion runs deep. So what is this monster god trying to convey to us when he tells his followers to wipe out every man, woman and child in a village except for the virgins, which they are to keep for themselves? The hoops we jump through to try to justify our myths and holy books. Incredible.

    February 26, 2012 at 2:26 am |
    • Baz

      Read it before you judge it. Read it for yourself, then come back and talk chit.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:38 am |
    • Wisdom4u2

      Awesome comment, Baz....and so true!

      February 26, 2012 at 2:42 am |
    • AllShepherds

      I seem to remember those being the orders God gave to Moses (I could be mistaken but it is in there somewhere) so I don't understand the "read your Bible before you talk" comments

      February 26, 2012 at 5:09 am |
    • Bumble Stiltkens

      What, Rewrites? "All is forgiven", "It, he , she, stated Position in organization, it; is the single voice of God", yada yada. Opinions Opinions sell, causation on the other hand not very profitable. yep, and where are these organizations now, anyway noose disclaimer Cnn. Ah absurd and assured obtuse the math of two plus two always equals three or five in the minds of Canadians-\

      February 26, 2012 at 10:26 am |
    • skeptic

      I have read it- that is why I am an atheist. If more people read the immoralities of the bible, they would be atheist too.

      February 26, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • GAGIRL78

      god never told anyne of his followers to go to a village and kill everybody except the virgins. Where in the bible did you read that? And if you think that is what is says read the context, have just a little sensibility and really think that if god was so awful than why did he die for us so that we may go to heaven. Even you and everybody else who is athiest. All you have to do is believe and accept Christ. I

      February 27, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
  5. bradm

    The reason that the Bible is gritty and Human like is because it was written by Men to control other Men. God exists. One Man's version of similar fairy tales, are just that.

    February 26, 2012 at 2:25 am |
    • Marion

      The Kid says: . Its better to say "I don't know" therefore I don't believe. Simple

      I guess then you don't know the difference between an agnostic and an athiest. Or you just approve of the agnostic, but not the athiest. I can buy that. I don't know, but I do believe. What does that make me? A proper Christian?

      February 26, 2012 at 7:01 pm |
    • W247

      Isn't that what life has always been about? Men trying to control other men to get their way? Whether it is for religion, riches or lust for power, since the first original murder, man has been out to get man.

      February 27, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
  6. flarnkingsgargle

    The bible is about accepting Jesus Christ as one's savior. In order to be saved, one must emulate Jesus. Jesus gave selflessly and abhorred attachment to material possession and money in general. And yet, Americans think they are such righteous Christians....I wish I could be at every Christian's deathbed when they realize there is no afterlife.

    February 26, 2012 at 2:21 am |
    • Albert Torcaso

      My friend, there is an afterlife, but many who believe that they are going to heaven may take a side trip until they right their wrongs. As for me, I know that I too may take a side trip even though I do all that I can to do things right and should I somehow end up in hell I would still love the Lord God and Jesus. I am willing to be in the Lord's army should revelations ever happen in my lifetime. Love is the most important aspect of God and of humanity.
      Albert Torcaso
      Humanity Matters

      February 26, 2012 at 2:44 am |
    • The Kid

      How would feel if a Christian said this to you. They can't wait until you realize there IS an afterlife. While I am not a Christian, I believe the arrogance of Atheist is becoming quite annoying. Human logic is just as flawed as religious logic. You have no clue if there is an after life or not, yet you comment on it as if you DO know. You don't have know every detail of information of a certain subject to believe in it. Its better to say "I don't know" therefore I don't believe. Simple

      February 26, 2012 at 2:44 am |
    • Tin-foil Hats Inc.

      I would just make the statement, you need neuroleptics and psychiatric care if a Christian said that to me.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:51 am |
    • 7777777

      To 'The Kid'
      I agree with you. If one understood that both God and Jesus said that "mens' hearts are evil", and that God's laws are written in our hearts, then you would inherently understand WHO these people are. They have rejected the light. It is that simple. They have chosen to live in darkness.

      February 26, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    • Jared

      I hope that when you realize that there is an afterlife that you are given at least one last opportunity. I'd be happy to admit that I've had questions and doubts about Christianity, but I have none when it comes to God. I have my own relationship with Him and I've seen people healed instantly of disease and injuries that they've had for decades. Mankind may well pervert what God says, but that doesn't change who God is.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:50 am |
  7. Margie

    Religion is Crass? Violent? Riddled with human ego and intervention? Who woulda thunk it.

    February 26, 2012 at 2:21 am |
  8. Kendyl

    Some of these comments just break my heart... they are so hard to read. Has the world hardened your hearts so much so that you can't see the beauty in this man's message? Jesus loves you with a furious, unconditional, never-ending LOVE. This article spoke to me so profoundly. I pray it plants a similar seed into your hearts as well. ~Agape

    February 26, 2012 at 1:41 am |
    • Wisdom4u2

      I guess you haven't read the Bible, because you would understand what's going on with these blind people.
      John 3:19 -21 says this: "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

      February 26, 2012 at 2:40 am |
    • Dean

      Sure Kendyl,
      And god shows us his "furious love" in the bible by telling us to slaughter every man, woman, and child in the next village if they worship other gods. In Dueteronomy 28, he threatens to make parents so desperate that they will be forced to eat their own children – and afterbirth. God orders the stoning to death of an old man for picking up sticks on the sabbath. He approves of slavery. He gives detailed instructions about kidnapping and raping the female spoils of war.

      Do you actually read the bible Kendryl? If you do, and you can see love in this sort of disgusting, barbaric, sadistic behaviour by your imaginary god, then you are one sick deluded human being. How fortunate for humanity that this barbarian "god" only exists in the imagination of the gullible.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:43 am |
    • RegularDude, south bay, ca

      I agree.
      Why is the news so delicate around the issue of Islam? see enn en would never allow such an regarding Islam
      Why does the media hate Christians so much and simultaneously holding Islam in the highest regard?
      This country was founded on Christian values. You don't have to be a christian to be here, but one should share these values. It's naive to think otherwise.
      Go live in Iran . Muslim Teachers at school won't share the same coffee pot as Christians . They consider it dirty.
      Women are murdered for just an accusation of looking at a man.
      A woman is beaten by police for a piece of hair showing. You tube it.
      Gays, Christians don't HANG peoplefor being gay. Look at you tube .MSM elites claim to be unbiased and ultimately [say] they desire that everyone have a fair share.
      The problem is, their "everyone" is beyond being prejudices. If you don't believe in every one of their issues you don't count. Lib eralism is becoming facism. Look deep into the definition of fascism .it isn't on the right side of the spectrum as you were forced to think. It's extremely leftist.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:48 am |
    • Wisdom4u2

      Dean, you need to ask God to give you wisdom and understanding, because you are missing those two....and you need them to even begin to comprehend the Inspired Word of God. Duhhh

      February 26, 2012 at 2:50 am |
    • Kendyl

      Dean, I understand where you're coming from. I myself have trouble with the Old Testament. Immense trouble. I have read the Bible, and I lean on Romans 7:6 "But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code" to help me understand my aversion to the Old Testament. Jesus did away with the old law. And all I know, my friend, is that He has changed my life. I know that's a buzz word of sorts, but He truly has turned my life around and allows me to Love in ways I couldn't before.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:51 am |
    • Fritz Hohenheim

      Yep why don't you tell that Jesus-loves-you crap the children that are born with cancer or the thousands who die of hunger in the country of Africa?

      February 26, 2012 at 2:55 am |
    • Kendyl

      Have you ever asked them how they feel about God? I think you would be surprised. I was. I went to Haiti after the earthquake, and was astounded at the faith of a people who had lost everything. They understand God and spirituality more than our culture ever will.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:59 am |
    • Atheist in a Foxhole, USN

      Kendyl, if Jesus' love was truly "unconditional" as you say, then it wouldn't matter if you're gay, straight, sinner, saint, or complete non-believer for him to "accept you". That would be true unconditional love, like a parent gives (or should give) their child. The reality is, is that there never was a Jesus, or God, or gods... all the biblical stories have been told for countless generations with the same tales of virgin birth, ascending to heaven, etc etc etc. And faith is defnitely not a virtue. Since when is believing something DESPITE of ALL the evidence to the contrary a good thing?

      February 26, 2012 at 9:33 am |
    • Visitor

      Kendl, all I can say is if these comments are hard to read, you don't get out much.

      February 26, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • W247

      Atheist in a Foxhole, USN
      Jesus does have unconditional love for the world, however the world keeps on insisting that He does not exists, and keeps turning away from Him. He is standing there with a perfect gift for you, but you keep rejecting Him. Turn around, run to Him and then you will see what unconditional love really means.

      February 27, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
  9. Kendyl

    WOW. This is incredible. Mr. James, I am sobbing like a child at the moment. Something inside me just broke and mended all at once. It was exactly what I needed, and I wasn't even aware of it. Your blatant message and honest words are a healing remedy to a world, especially to Christian culture, full of rhetoric that fits perfectly in the safe little box we build. I can't even tell you how refreshing this was to read, and I can only imagine what your books are like. THANK YOU.

    February 26, 2012 at 1:37 am |
    • The Flamingo Kid

      You need help.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:24 am |
    • Kendyl

      Don't we all, my friend.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:27 am |
    • Wisdom4u2

      You got that right, Kendyl.....Jesus is my crutch...I need Him to lean on!

      February 26, 2012 at 2:45 am |
  10. The Central Scrutinizer

    1. There is no such thing as race.
    2. Anyone who puts this much thought into a fake book is stupid. The bible is false, a lie, and utterly unimportant in 2012.
    3. I am hungry right now, who could go for some flap jacks?

    February 26, 2012 at 1:01 am |
    • The Kid

      As much as I disagree with many of the principles and the message of the Bible, nothing in this world is completely false. There is a purpose for everything, even the Bible. And believe or not many moral foundations are found within that very same book. Its wrong to say something is irrelevant when so many people still follow its principles, whether you agree with it or not.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:38 am |
    • Jarin

      Pancakes. They exist, and they are delicious.

      February 26, 2012 at 7:04 am |
    • Jesus

      The magical invisible guy in the sky just gave you a demerit for that comment.

      February 26, 2012 at 10:26 am |
    • justanotherguy60

      You ought to go to some of the pancake suppers churches put on. That way you get the best of both worlds, the word of God and greatfood. You, and many like you might have at one time believed in God and the Bible, but have been disillusioned since He and His book didn't work for you. We are on God's time, not the other way around. The comments from the atheists are like yours. Why do you, like others, not accept the fact that the prophets wrote the words of God and thus were put in a book, called the Bible. Why not accept it, or you are in complete denial of God and His word.? Also, the Bible has been around for centuries and much has been written about it. On one side, there are those that believe and have a strong faith. On the other, there are those that completely deny His existence and think it is a fairy tale.

      February 26, 2012 at 11:58 am |
  11. B(iraq) Hussein Osama

    And a pity this ghastly human Godlessness has infected the good America. Had they not got caught up in Europe's Godless wars and become addicted to the same weapons manufacturing and peddling, America would be a very different place today in the World. True God's country with compassion for people all over the world. They would call it United Nations of America. Pity, instead we have United European Inspired Godless Weapons Manufactures of America.

    February 25, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      BHO..while we have religions of any type we will not see peace. The news does not bring atheist atrocities... daily it is muslin killing Muslim, christian killing muslin, muslin killing christian. these names hide the fact they are human beings but belief in a god, any of therm, devalue human life....You are deluding your self and you know it ..God is a drug as strong as cocaine...while the pimps are out their pushing it the weak will fall....

      February 26, 2012 at 2:19 am |
    • Baz

      Why do you believe America is God's country? We as Americans server Money, not God. John the Baptist talks about handouts (Luke 3:11), yet here we despise the idea of helping those that are less fortune. What makes you think that God favors us over others? Because of something our Founding Fathers did? You can only ride on someone else's credit for so long – we have burned ours long time ago. We have forsaken God and turned to Money. Blame Europe Godlessness all you want.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:48 am |
    • Fritz Hohenheim

      Yep the same compassion America showed the civilians of Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo or Hiroshima.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:57 am |
  12. B(iraq) Hussein Osama

    Thank God for the Bible and Quran. Imagine a world without these religions. Large Ovens gassing minorities every year. Inferior races and poor people turned into smoke. World War every the years. Purging countrysides of their residents to build large dams and mines and stuff.

    Anybody notice the ghastliness of humanity ever since the Bible has been marginalized since the 1700s in Europe and since time immemorial in China and Black Africa. Scary when the fear of God is not there, what humans can resort to as a collective group. Frying jews in ovens and Carpet bombing from the skies like as if it is just rain.

    February 25, 2012 at 11:47 pm |
    • anonymous

      Only someone with your ignorant username would leave a comment as incorrect as this.

      Do you even know your history? Atrocities have been present throughout all of human history, even during the times when the Bible wasn't marginalized. From old methods of complete domination and methods of conquer to the 1500s at the beginning of the major slave trade, to the Crusades (which hardly had its origins in religious doctrine), these acts of violence and, as you imply, godless acts have nothing to do with the relevance of how much emphasis the world's citizens at the time placed on the Bible–it is something that goes far deeper into human nature. The Holocaust and the World Wars were so devastating because of technological advances and impacts of globalization–the evil present was certainly nothing new.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:51 am |
  13. Chad

    VERY GOOD ARTICLE

    "I believe that Scripture includes such graphic material to show how far we, as a race, have fallen and how far God was willing to come to rescue us from ourselves."

    =>Scripture includes such graphic material simply because life is graphic, and the bible is the account of Gods interaction with humanity. It' gritty because it's real, the events happened, the people were real.

    February 25, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • *facepalm*

      "how far God was willing to come "

      The concept of either sacrifice or effort to an omnipotent being is absurd.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:26 am |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Chad .As usual the drivel that humans are worthless and not worthy? I say god is not worthy of us, and that we need to invent one that is. Lets think better of our selves and we may think better of each other. You sound like you have no self esteem and that you need god to make you wake up in the morning..While we try to convince others we are substandard the real work of life eludes some of us..and we need everyone.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:31 am |
    • Snap

      I refuse to worship the god of the bible. He's arrogant, egotistical, and would allow millions to suffer to prove a philosophical point with the devil. He creates laws that he himself will not keep, he tells us not to kill but then leads us to kill. He tells us to know good from evil, but then tells us we can't trust our own thoughts. He knows everything and has everything yet pretends that he somehow needs our belief in him in order to forgive us for the evil things we did that he enabled us to do. Racist, overbearing, hater of freedom, stealer of thoughts, enemy of rational logic, tester of humans, great enabler of the devil, what is there to like in this guy? I just don't get it anymore. You really think all those things equal love?

      February 26, 2012 at 2:37 am |
  14. JEP

    The worst thing religion has edited is when they removed God's name from His own book. His name YHWH in Hebrew, and commonly pronounced Jehovah in English was in the Bible over SEVEN THOUSAND times. I think God considered it important for us to know. It is still in the King James version 4 (yes, only four) times. The Bible says that we are not to add or take anything away from it and yet the religious leaders chose to remove Almight God's name and replace it with LORD. The first line of the model prayer that Jesus gave us shows how he felt about his father's name Matt 6:9 "Our father who art in heaven, Hallowed by thy name. #1 important!!! So how do you feel about God's name???

    February 25, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
    • *facepalm*

      Do you really think that the creator of the universe gets offended or upset is a particular species of animal on a rather pedestrian planet in a suburban part of a rather nondescript galaxy gets his name slightly off? That's one insecure supreme deity you've got there.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:28 am |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Jep..if you take such writing seriously then you deserve to fester over such inane things. It is all myth, you have no proof of one single aspect of what the bible says..get over it.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:38 am |
    • ThePROFESS10NAL

      Well why doesn't he come down, introduce himself and show us how to say it?

      February 27, 2012 at 10:37 am |
  15. Bob

    On the subject of nasty bits in the Bible, let's not forget to sacrifice a sheep today. The bible is very clear that you should sacrifice and burn such an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian 'god' happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

    Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

    So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

    Ask the questions. Break the chains. Be free of religion in 2012.
    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

    February 25, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
    • lili

      Yes, all of that about the sheep goes right along with condoning slavery, putting to death a man for working on the Sabbath, stoning a brother if he plants two different crops side by side, burning a mother in a small family gathering is she uses two different threads in her son's shirt, etc., etc. Enough said. We'd all be in jail or insane asylums today if we followed those directions! Or on death row. Why are people so quick to look for the passages they can use to justify putting down others? Why don't they look for the passages that affirm life and love and tolerance? Very strange.

      February 25, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
    • John

      Atheists always quote laws that are no longer in effect. Sin requires blood. The blood of Christ has been shed. Quit complaining about being held accountable for your sins and accept that someone else has done so for you.

      February 25, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      John..why would a god require a sacrifice in the first place he does not sound that sophisticated, why not just sacrifice a goat or something? and why for our "sins" anyway god i appears a little screwed up and you think he is cool?

      February 26, 2012 at 2:11 am |
    • *facepalm*

      "Sin requires blood."

      Are you talking about the creator of the universe, or some machiavellian tyrant? It gets hard to tell the difference when reading the bible.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:30 am |
    • BisJar

      If you actually understand what the Bible was saying, that whole sacrificial system was meant in the ancient world for the Israelites to show their dedication to God, atone for sins, and to set them apart from the rest of the world, so that other people would look at them and wonder why they follow God the way they do. Today, Jesus has paid the ultimate sacrifice for our sins, so we are clean before God. There's no need for sacrifice anymore.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:32 am |
    • ThePROFESS10NAL

      John, you are pathetic. Take responsibility for your actions you whack job.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:41 am |
  16. Reality

    Putting in all into the 21st century:

    Only for the those interested in a biblical update:

    1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

    “New Torah For Modern Minds

    Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “

    2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

    The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

    earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

    For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

    Current RCC problems:

    Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

    2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

    Current problems:
    Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

    February 25, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
    • lili

      Thank you, Reality.

      February 25, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
    • BisJar

      Those are certainly very brash claims against the Bible, of which you refuse to cite source on except name liberal theologians. Even then, you refuse to provide evidence of what they say. For someone who's so into historicity apparently, do some investigation. Here's a source quoting extra biblical evidence for Christ's existence: http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4223639/k.567/Ancient_Evidence_for_Jesus_from_NonChristian_Sources.htm In addition, how do you explain the rise of Christianity to take over the entire Roman Empire, with Christians getting slaughtered for their beliefs, if Jesus was just some illiterate Jew? Finally, if you question the thousands of manuscripts that we have of Christ's existence, you have to call into question the existence of people like Caesar or Plato, of whom only a few manuscripts exist. But you are right about one thing though: Jesus did claim to be the son of God, so either he's crazy, or he's telling the truth. And if he IS telling the truth, then Christ automatically becomes the most important person in your life. So, specifically on the resurrection, I would highly encourage you to open your mind and follow the evidence where it leads.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:40 am |
    • Reality

      From Professors Crossan and Watts' book, Who is Jesus.

      "That Jesus was crucified under Pontius Pilate, as the Creed states, is as certain as anything historical can ever be.

      “ The Jewish historian, Josephus and the pagan historian Tacitus both agree that Jesus was executed by order of the Roman governor of Judea. And is very hard to imagine that Jesus' followers would have invented such a story unless it indeed happened.

      “While the brute fact that of Jesus' death by crucifixion is historically certain, however, those detailed narratives in our present gospels are much more problematic. "

      “My best historical reconstruction would be something like this. Jesus was arrested during the Passover festival, most likely in response to his action in the Temple. Those who were closest to him ran away for their own safety.

      I do not presume that there were any high-level confrontations between Caiaphas and Pilate and Herod Antipas either about Jesus or with Jesus. No doubt they would have agreed before the festival that fast action was to be taken against any disturbance and that a few examples by crucifixion might be especially useful at the outset. And I doubt very much if Jewish police or Roman soldiers needed to go too far up the chain of command in handling a Galilean peasant like Jesus. It is hard for us to imagine the casual brutality with which Jesus was probably taken and executed. All those "last week" details in our gospels, as distinct from the brute facts just mentioned, are prophecy turned into history, rather than history remembered."

      See also Professor Crossan's reviews of the existence of Jesus in his other books especially, The Historical Jesus and also Excavating Jesus (with Professor Jonathan Reed doing the archeology discussion) .

      Other NT exegetes to include members of the Jesus Seminar have published similar books with appropriate supporting references.

      Part of Crossan's The Historical Jesus has been published online at books.google.com/books.

      There is also a search engine for this book on the right hand side of the opening page. e.g. Search Josephus

      See also Wikipedia's review on the historical Jesus to include the Tacitus' reference to the crucifixion of Jesus.

      From ask.com,

      "One of the greatest historians of ancient Rome, Cornelius Tacitus is a primary source for much of what is known about life the first and second centuries after the life of Jesus. His most famous works, Histories and Annals, exist in fragmentary form, though many of his earlier writings were lost to time. Tacitus is known for being generally reliable (if somewhat biased toward what he saw as Roman immorality) and for having a uniquely direct (if not blunt) writing style.

      Then there are these scriptural references:

      Crucifixion of Jesus:(1) 1 Cor 15:3b; (2a) Gos. Pet. 4:10-5:16,18-20; 6:22; (2b) Mark 15:22-38 = Matt 27:33-51a = Luke 23:32-46; (2c) John 19:17b-25a,28-36; (3) Barn. 7:3-5; (4a) 1 Clem. 16:3-4 (=Isaiah 53:1-12); (4b) 1 Clem. 16.15-16 (=Psalm 22:6-8); (5a) Ign. Mag. 11; (5b) Ign. Trall. 9:1b; (5c) Ign. Smyrn. 1.2.- (read them all at wiki.faithfutures. Crucifixion org/index.php/005_Crucifixion_Of_Jesus )

      Added suggested readings:

      o 1. Historical Jesus Theories, earlychristianwritings.com/theories.htm – the names of many of the contemporary historical Jesus scholars and the ti-tles of their over 100 books on the subject.
      2. Early Christian Writings, earlychristianwritings.com/
      – a list of early Christian doc-uments to include the year of publication–

      30-60 CE Passion Narrative
      40-80 Lost Sayings Gospel Q
      50-60 1 Thessalonians
      50-60 Philippians
      50-60 Galatians
      50-60 1 Corinthians
      50-60 2 Corinthians
      50-60 Romans
      50-60 Philemon
      50-80 Colossians
      50-90 Signs Gospel
      50-95 Book of Hebrews
      50-120 Didache
      50-140 Gospel of Thomas
      50-140 Oxyrhynchus 1224 Gospel
      50-200 Sophia of Jesus Christ
      65-80 Gospel of Mark
      70-100 Epistle of James
      70-120 Egerton Gospel
      70-160 Gospel of Peter
      70-160 Secret Mark
      70-200 Fayyum Fragment
      70-200 Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
      73-200 Mara Bar Serapion
      80-100 2 Thessalonians
      80-100 Ephesians
      80-100 Gospel of Matthew
      80-110 1 Peter
      80-120 Epistle of Barnabas
      80-130 Gospel of Luke
      80-130 Acts of the Apostles
      80-140 1 Clement
      80-150 Gospel of the Egyptians
      80-150 Gospel of the Hebrews
      80-250 Christian Sibyllines
      90-95 Apocalypse of John
      90-120 Gospel of John
      90-120 1 John
      90-120 2 John
      90-120 3 John
      90-120 Epistle of Jude
      93 Flavius Josephus
      100-150 1 Timothy
      100-150 2 Timothy
      100-150 T-itus
      100-150 Apocalypse of Peter
      100-150 Secret Book of James
      100-150 Preaching of Peter
      100-160 Gospel of the Ebionites
      100-160 Gospel of the Nazoreans
      100-160 Shepherd of Hermas
      100-160 2 Peter

      3. Historical Jesus Studies, faithfutures.org/HJstudies.html,
      – "an extensive and constantly expanding literature on historical research into the person and cultural context of Jesus of Nazareth"
      4. Jesus Database, faithfutures.org/JDB/intro.html–"The JESUS DATABASE is an online annotated inventory of the traditions concerning the life and teachings of Jesus that have survived from the first three centuries of the Common Era. It includes both canonical and extra-canonical materials, and is not limited to the traditions found within the Christian New Testament."
      5. Josephus on Jesus mtio.com/articles/bissar24.htm
      6. The Jesus Seminar, mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/seminar.html#Criteria
      7. Writing the New Testament- mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/testament.html
      8. Health and Healing in the Land of Israel By Joe Zias
      joezias.com/HealthHealingLandIsrael.htm
      9. Economics in First Century Palestine, K.C. Hanson and D. E. Oakman, Palestine in the Time of Jesus, Fortress Press, 1998.
      (Added references are available upon your request,)

      February 26, 2012 at 8:13 am |
    • Reality

      Only for the newbies:

      Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/Disease:

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

      To wit;

      From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

      "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
      Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

      Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

      Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

      The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

      Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

      "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
      http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

      The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.

      With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

      An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,

      p.4

      "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

      p.168. by Ted Peters:

      Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

      So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

      February 26, 2012 at 8:15 am |
    • MaryM

      Thank you Reality. Great comment, long but great

      February 26, 2012 at 9:34 am |
    • Zoe

      BizJar

      If God came to you personally, or better yet, revealed his/herself to the whole world to let everyone know that the bible was written by and changed over centuries by men, and all religions are corruptions of what/who god is, you still would not believe. You would tell God s/he was a liberal commie pinko. "Believers" will never accept plain facts that fly in the face of their religions, no matter how they are presented to them.

      February 26, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
  17. TP

    What an AMAZING article! I must share this on my ministry website Steven at http://nucreature.org Thanks.

    February 25, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
  18. wayne

    very well said

    February 25, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
  19. Muneef

    Burning the Quran and Sugercoating the Bible...!

    February 25, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • Not Now John

      Both books have their uses. The caloric value of the Quran is well known and the Bible is sometimes hard to swallow.

      February 25, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • The Central Scrutinizer

      I would never burn the Bible or the Quran. They make great toilet paper to wipe my a.s.s.

      February 26, 2012 at 1:10 am |
    • Jesus

      I use the Babble as a doorstop in my home. I wouldn't use its pages as toilet paper. The print may come off.

      February 26, 2012 at 10:31 am |
  20. momoya

    I am an atheist and I hardily endorse this message.
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    February 25, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • DOSman

      This video is much more scientific...
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=688111496234161611

      February 26, 2012 at 4:12 am |
    • Jesus

      Why can't people see the religion scam for what it is? Are people so afraid of their mortality and death, that they're willing to accept any delusion?

      February 26, 2012 at 10:22 am |
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